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Re: key commands for NVDA?

Gene
 

As a practical matter, though technically his isn't what is happening, in the desktop layout, pressing 8 on the numpad will read the current line if you are in object navigation mode most of the time.  I much prefer this method of reading the current line than a command that requires two keys that aren't necessarily convenient to use in one command, that is, NVDA key up arrow.
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] key commands for NVDA?

Hi Troy,

You can find both the Commands quick reference (straight list of commands and keys) and the User Guide (has more detail) from NVDA's help menu.  Press NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu, then H for help.  The NVDA key will be either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you set it up.

As you are coming from Jaws, another document you might be interested in, is the guide to Switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

As for your specific question, in Desktop keyboard layout, NVDA uses NVDA+up arrow to read the current line, but that is the up arrow key itself, not the 8 on the number pad.  Note that you can set the NVDA modifier key and whether NVDA uses desktop or laptop keyboard layout independently of each other).  In laptop keyboard layout, the keystroke to read the current line is NVDA+L.  Similarly the keystroke to read from the current point onwards is NVDA+down arrow in desktop keyboard layout and NVDA+A in laptop keyboard layout.

If you are interested in learning NVDA from scratch, we do have "Basic Training for NVDA" available.  You might find that you do already know a lot of it, so work through the switching from Jaws to NVDA guide first and see how you feel after that.  If you are interested in Basic Training for NVDA, it is available from our shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 2:06 PM Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Where might I find a list of key commands used with NVDA? I'm just now
switching to NVDA from jaws, and I understand that a lot of the commands
are the same but for example when I hit insert-8 on the number pad with
NVDA loaded it doesn't seem to read the current line like it does with jaws.

Thanks.

Troy






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Re: key commands for NVDA?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Troy,

You can find both the Commands quick reference (straight list of commands and keys) and the User Guide (has more detail) from NVDA's help menu.  Press NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu, then H for help.  The NVDA key will be either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you set it up.

As you are coming from Jaws, another document you might be interested in, is the guide to Switching from Jaws to NVDA, which you can find here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

As for your specific question, in Desktop keyboard layout, NVDA uses NVDA+up arrow to read the current line, but that is the up arrow key itself, not the 8 on the number pad.  Note that you can set the NVDA modifier key and whether NVDA uses desktop or laptop keyboard layout independently of each other).  In laptop keyboard layout, the keystroke to read the current line is NVDA+L.  Similarly the keystroke to read from the current point onwards is NVDA+down arrow in desktop keyboard layout and NVDA+A in laptop keyboard layout.

If you are interested in learning NVDA from scratch, we do have "Basic Training for NVDA" available.  You might find that you do already know a lot of it, so work through the switching from Jaws to NVDA guide first and see how you feel after that.  If you are interested in Basic Training for NVDA, it is available from our shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 2:06 PM Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Where might I find a list of key commands used with NVDA? I'm just now
switching to NVDA from jaws, and I understand that a lot of the commands
are the same but for example when I hit insert-8 on the number pad with
NVDA loaded it doesn't seem to read the current line like it does with jaws.

Thanks.

Troy






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Re: key commands for NVDA?

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

hello go to nvaccess.org if you have NVDA on your pc. hit contral n go too
user guide or in the next email I will help you out

On 12/17/19, Troy Burnham <troyburnham34@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

Where might I find a list of key commands used with NVDA? I'm just now
switching to NVDA from jaws, and I understand that a lot of the commands
are the same but for example when I hit insert-8 on the number pad with
NVDA loaded it doesn't seem to read the current line like it does with
jaws.

Thanks.

Troy





Re: key commands for NVDA?

Sascha Cowley
 

There is a "commands quick reference" document that comes with NVDA. You can access it by opening the NVDA menu, then "Help" then "Commands Quick Reference" (NVDA+n, H, Q).

On 18/12/2019 14:06, Troy Burnham wrote:
Hi all,

Where might I find a list of key commands used with NVDA? I'm just now switching to NVDA from jaws, and I understand that a lot of the commands are the same but for example when I hit insert-8 on the number pad with NVDA loaded it doesn't seem to read the current line like it does with jaws.

Thanks.

Troy



key commands for NVDA?

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,

Where might I find a list of key commands used with NVDA? I'm just now switching to NVDA from jaws, and I understand that a lot of the commands are the same but for example when I hit insert-8 on the number pad with NVDA loaded it doesn't seem to read the current line like it does with jaws.

Thanks.

Troy


Re: Interesting issue with Desktop version of Facebook and Microsoft Edge Dev

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

havent found one myself. Same thing happens when encountering quoted tweets when using edge. Must be an edge thing, as I don't experience it with firefox. I'm still messing around and will update if I do find one


Re: How to copy previous spoken message by NVDA without speech history addon

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

You can enable the speech viewer. Then, perform the task which causes the utterance you want to copy. Go back to the speech viewer and copy the resulting output.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:21 PM Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...> wrote:
Hello,

I would like to know, if without the addon speech history.

How can one copy the previous spoken message by NVDA?

Especially there are items not able to be copied via current review cursor.

Thanks,

William







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How to copy previous spoken message by NVDA without speech history addon

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hello,

I would like to know, if without the addon speech history.

How can one copy the previous spoken message by NVDA?

Especially there are items not able to be copied via current review cursor.

Thanks,

William


issues with zoom and menus and text chat

Stephen
 

Hi there.
When typing in text chat, and I try using the arrows to review what I've just typed before pressing enter, the text isn't spoken.
Similarly, if I click edit personal note, none of what I type is able to be reviewed with the arrow keys.
Is anyone else having the issue using the latest version of NVDA and Zoom?
Cheers.


Re: Strange possible bug with the latest veta of Nvda.

Kevin Cussick
 

Olga already has done this. but just as recently as last week or maybe the week before I was able to change voices. no this is down to Nvda.

On 17/12/2019 04:14, Quentin Christensen wrote:
It is likely because in our alpha (and now beta) versions, we have updated NVDA to use Python 3 rather than Python 2.  For the most part, you don't need to understand too much about programming, except in general, that is a needed step, I noted a couple of the reasons in our In-Process blog a few weeks ago: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-29th-november/
Basically, it means that all add-ons also need to be updated to Python 3.  Joseph has done a fantastic amount of work with many add-ons and add-on developers to help them, and he has also collated the status of all of the main official add-ons here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/nvdapy3.en.html
So, what I'd recommend, is contacting the developer of the RH Voice to advise them and request they update their NVDA add-on to Python 3.
regards
Quentin.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 9:21 AM Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io <mailto:googlemail.com@groups.io>> wrote:
Hi all,   I us RH voice,   I have all the voices for English installed,
  I only use Scottish Alan,   but for some reason I tried to change
one
of the voices still using RH voice,   but it will not let me change
from
Alan to one of the other voices.   I can say it used to work so not
sure
why it is not changing now.   it does the same with the beta and alpha,
  any chance of some of the devs trying this or if someone is using
the
same sinth as me maybe they can try this it used to work so not sure
when it changed.
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Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Pele West
 

Hi

Thanks. I have got Braille Extender now.

Pele West


Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, it is an add-on.


You can get it in the oficial add-ons page, accesible through Add-on manager on the NVDA, Tools menu.


Rui Fontes


Às 09:28 de 17/12/2019, Pele West escreveu:

Hi Brian

I don't see "Braille Extender" or "Prevent Undefined characters with
Hexadecimal Value". Is there something I have to do to get it, like an
addon.

I am running NVDA 3.

Thanks

Pele West



Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Pele West
 

Hi Brian

I don't see "Braille Extender" or "Prevent Undefined characters with
Hexadecimal Value". Is there something I have to do to get it, like an
addon.

I am running NVDA 3.

Thanks

Pele West


Re: Accessible of google things in Google chrome

Marco Oros
 

Thank You very much. I'll check It, as soon, as I can.


Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi Adriani,
this issue not only appears in web browsers on several websites. Sometimes I also experience it in Windows, especially when the focus gets lost. But I don't know how to reproduce these situations and they happen rarely.

Best
Denis


Am Mo., 16. Dez. 2019 um 23:15 Uhr schrieb Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@...>:

Hey Denis,

 

are you experiencing this also on Firefox? And is this behavior only on Twitter? Or do you see it on every website?

 

Here is some background about the character that you get on your braille display. This is an object replacement character and although seems to be part of the accessibility tree, it should not be exposed to the braille display.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/Architecture

 

Have you enabled any accessibility development features in Chrome which might expose those characters?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Denis Sariyannis
Gesendet: Montag, 16. Dezember 2019 14:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Strange symbols on my Braille display

 

Hi all,
When I switch to focus mode in Chrome, my Braille display often shows things like '\xfffc'. That also sometimes happens in other situations like on the Windows login screen. Are these symbols the result of ANSI codes not defined in the configured Braille table or where do these come from?

My Braille table is German Computer Braille. I'm using NVDA Version 2019.2.1 on Windows 10.
This problem is reproducible. On the Twitter website I turn on focus mode by pressing NVDA+SPACE. When I navigate through the tweets by pressing J and K my Braille display shows these groups of symbols exclusively. If I want to read information about the tweet I have to scroll left. So it seems the Braille display is at the very end of the line by default which ends with a '\xfffc'.
Do you have any idea what this could be?

Thanks and best regards
Denis

 

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Re: Accessible of google things in Google chrome

Aravind R
 

Check this youtube channel. Even though its based for jaws, it will
work for NVDA also.
https://www.youtube.com/FreedomScientificTraining

On 17/12/2019, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a question.

Is Google docs, Google slides, and Google sheets accessible in Google
chrome for NVDA?

If not, where I can post this suggestion?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros





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Re: Accessible of google things in Google chrome

Nimer Jaber
 

Yes, they are accessible. Just be sure to enable accessibility mode, if you have not yet, by pressing ctrl+alt+z. Also, you must get comfortable in using web apps, and in jumping in and out of browse mode in order to achieve success with Docs, Sheets, and Slides.

Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 10:31 PM Marco Oros <marco.oros93@...> wrote:
I have a question.

Is Google docs, Google slides, and Google sheets accessible in Google
chrome for NVDA?

If not, where I can post this suggestion?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros






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Accessible of google things in Google chrome

Marco Oros
 

I have a question.

Is Google docs, Google slides, and Google sheets accessible in Google chrome for NVDA?

If not, where I can post this suggestion?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros


Interesting issue with Desktop version of Facebook and Microsoft Edge Dev

 

While reading some posts on Facebook, I see a weird thing going on. Instead of saying how long ago the post was posted in one line, the letters will read out as I arrow down.


For example, "sponsored" will read

s

p

o

n

s

o

r

e

d


It's slightly annoying. I'm using alpha 19460 with the latest development version of Microsoft Edge, Development version. A solution to this would be fantastic.


Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Brian Tew
 

There is a setting that got rid of many weird symbols for me:

 NVDA menu, preferences, Braille Extender, Braille Tables, Prevent undefined characters with Hexadecimal Unicode value