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Re: Word Count

Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
 

if u are in ms word
press alt t then w for word cound dialogue box
when the box is opened, press NVDA key and b to read
you would get your word count
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 4:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] Word Count

Hi All,

I am currently transitioning to NVDA from Dolphin.

When I select all the text on a document NVDA very helpfully tells me how many characters there are.

Is there a way of changing this spoken notification to words rather than characters?

Thanks

Colin   


Word Count

Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...>
 

Hi All,

I am currently transitioning to NVDA from Dolphin.

When I select all the text on a document NVDA very helpfully tells me how many characters there are.

Is there a way of changing this spoken notification to words rather than characters?

Thanks

Colin   


Re: increasing rate of windows one core voices

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo <chikodinaka.2girls@...>
 

fix this problem in the new NVDA fasting nvda in 1kor voices and slow
down onekor voices

On 12/19/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not at all sure the Microsoft One Core voices use SAPI. I seem to
recall from earlier discussions awhile ago, that they don't.

Also, I don't have this problem using other SAPI voices.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 7:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] increasing rate of windows one core voices


Well, the choppiness is not so noticable, but it is present and also words
get cut off unnecessarily. I think it isn't an NVDA problem but a problem
with Sapi itself because It doesn't happen with ESpeak. I have managed to
change the rate through windows but I wish the rate could be slightly faster
though, and I would not like to use the boost checkbox on NVDA itself.


On 12/19/2019 7:20 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Did you raise the native 1 core voices to 100 percent and control the nvda
slider after that? That tends to help me there. I have the rate boost on and
I don't notice any choppyness.

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On 18 Dec 2019, at 15:03, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi. I have increased the speech rate of my NVDA One Core voices to the
maximum 100% but it is still rather draggy. I tried to boost the rate via
the NVDA speech settings but I don't like the result because speech then
becomes more choppy and less intelligible even when I drop the rate down
after applying the boost. Is there a way I can speed up the speech via the
native windows speech settings itself? Thanks for any help. Cheers!





Re: dropbox issue

Gene
 

If you use Dropbox and use the application, you will have it forced on you.  There is no way to stop the application from automatically updating when the update is sent to you.
 
Do you know how to open Dropbox properties in the system tray?  Open properties, tab around and set the combo box to show folders in Windows Explorer.  I don't know if it says file explorer in Windows 10.  There is no way to make the permanent change in the actual opened application itself.
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox issue

I think you may be working with different versions – whilst thankfully  I have not got this new version yet I have seen others on another list complaining about the dreadful accessibility of the new DropBox.

From memory the advice there was to go into the new app settings and change view settings so that Windows File Explorer was again the default vehicle for DropBox rather than the new app and possibly use something like “Classic” view settings.

I cannot be definite as I have personally managed to avoid the new DropBox app.

David Griffith

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 19 December 2019 05:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox issue

 

I see no unlabeled buttons, in fact the app just works a lot better now. I just copy and do the smart sync etc. It works grate.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

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On 18 Dec 2019, at 17:13, Robert Kingett wrote:

I have no idea how you can work with their new program. I've moved to OneDrive because there were so many unlabeled buttons in the new program it was making my head hurt. I'd remove dropbox completely if I wasn't sharing folders with people.


Re: increasing rate of windows one core voices

Gene
 

I'm not at all sure the Microsoft One Core voices use SAPI.  I seem to recall from earlier discussions awhile ago, that they don't.
 
Also, I don't have this problem using other SAPI voices.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] increasing rate of windows one core voices

Well, the choppiness is not so noticable, but it is present and also words get cut off unnecessarily.  I think it isn't an NVDA problem but a problem with Sapi itself because It doesn't happen with ESpeak.  I have managed to change the rate through windows but I wish the rate could be slightly faster though, and I would not like to use the boost checkbox on NVDA itself.

On 12/19/2019 7:20 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Did you raise the native 1 core voices to 100 percent and control the nvda slider after that? That tends to help me there. I have the rate boost on and I don't notice any choppyness.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

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On 18 Dec 2019, at 15:03, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi.  I have increased the speech rate of my NVDA One Core voices to the maximum 100% but it is still rather draggy.  I tried to boost the rate via the NVDA speech settings but I don't like the result because speech then becomes more choppy and less intelligible even when I drop the rate down after applying the boost.  Is there a way I can speed up the speech via the native windows speech settings itself?  Thanks for any help.  Cheers!


Re: dropbox issue

Gene
 

Are you talking about the new interface?  You can return to the old interface.  Do you know how to get to properties of Dropbox in the system tray?  Tab around and change the combo box to show folders in Windows Explorer.  I don't know if it says file explorer in Windows 10. 
 
This shows the importance of not assuming a solution isn't available without asking on lists like this or the chat list to be sure.  At times, people go through a lot of trouble and inconvenience because they assume that if they haven't found one, there is none.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox issue

I have no idea how you can work with their new program. I've moved to OneDrive because there were so many unlabeled buttons in the new program it was making my head hurt. I'd remove dropbox completely if I wasn't sharing folders with people.


Re: dropbox issue

David Griffith
 

I have no personal experience of this but have heard from others that it is apparently it is possible in the new program to change view and return the default  file viewing etc to File Explorer.

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: 19 December 2019 01:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox issue

 

I have no idea how you can work with their new program. I've moved to OneDrive because there were so many unlabeled buttons in the new program it was making my head hurt. I'd remove dropbox completely if I wasn't sharing folders with people.


Re: dropbox issue

David Griffith
 

I think you may be working with different versions – whilst thankfully  I have not got this new version yet I have seen others on another list complaining about the dreadful accessibility of the new DropBox.

From memory the advice there was to go into the new app settings and change view settings so that Windows File Explorer was again the default vehicle for DropBox rather than the new app and possibly use something like “Classic” view settings.

I cannot be definite as I have personally managed to avoid the new DropBox app.

David Griffith

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 19 December 2019 05:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox issue

 

I see no unlabeled buttons, in fact the app just works a lot better now. I just copy and do the smart sync etc. It works grate.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 18 Dec 2019, at 17:13, Robert Kingett wrote:

I have no idea how you can work with their new program. I've moved to OneDrive because there were so many unlabeled buttons in the new program it was making my head hurt. I'd remove dropbox completely if I wasn't sharing folders with people.


Re: dropbox issue

Sarah k Alawami
 

I see no unlabeled buttons, in fact the app just works a lot better now. I just copy and do the smart sync etc. It works grate.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 18 Dec 2019, at 17:13, Robert Kingett wrote:

I have no idea how you can work with their new program. I've moved to OneDrive because there were so many unlabeled buttons in the new program it was making my head hurt. I'd remove dropbox completely if I wasn't sharing folders with people.


Re: dropbox issue

Arlene
 

Could have been your server.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: December 18, 2019 5:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dropbox issue

 

Hi.

 

Seems dropbox has fixed their clogged server, and the file is going fast

again, wander what it was.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: increasing rate of windows one core voices

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo <chikodinaka.2girls@...>
 

will it happin in 2001;3.33 of NVDA comes out in 2020? I made the
speech faster and slower but I give up. it is not fast or slow

On 12/18/19, David Csercsics <bleeblat@gmail.com> wrote:
The boost adds extra distortion, and artifacts even with ESpeak. I
suspect it's the same with one core voices as well, I don't know. I have
noticed that the sound clips when I start NVDA unless the sound card is
already open, and the first tiny bit of speech will get clipped off as
well, but once it has started speaking and has the sound card open, it
is fine. I'm not sure if this has to do with this sound card being
configured in a way NVDA doesn't like, (it only supports 24-bit audio),
or if there is something with NVDA, since all other sounds are fine.






Re: increasing rate of windows one core voices

David Csercsics
 

The boost adds extra distortion, and artifacts even with ESpeak. I suspect it's the same with one core voices as well, I don't know. I have noticed that the sound clips when I start NVDA unless the sound card is already open, and the first tiny bit of speech will get clipped off as well, but once it has started speaking and has the sound card open, it is fine. I'm not sure if this has to do with this sound card being configured in a way NVDA doesn't like, (it only supports 24-bit audio), or if there is something with NVDA, since all other sounds are fine.


Re: increasing rate of windows one core voices

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Well, the choppiness is not so noticable, but it is present and also words get cut off unnecessarily.  I think it isn't an NVDA problem but a problem with Sapi itself because It doesn't happen with ESpeak.  I have managed to change the rate through windows but I wish the rate could be slightly faster though, and I would not like to use the boost checkbox on NVDA itself.

On 12/19/2019 7:20 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Did you raise the native 1 core voices to 100 percent and control the nvda slider after that? That tends to help me there. I have the rate boost on and I don't notice any choppyness.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 18 Dec 2019, at 15:03, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi.  I have increased the speech rate of my NVDA One Core voices to the maximum 100% but it is still rather draggy.  I tried to boost the rate via the NVDA speech settings but I don't like the result because speech then becomes more choppy and less intelligible even when I drop the rate down after applying the boost.  Is there a way I can speed up the speech via the native windows speech settings itself?  Thanks for any help.  Cheers!


Re: dropbox issue

 

I have no idea how you can work with their new program. I've moved to OneDrive because there were so many unlabeled buttons in the new program it was making my head hurt. I'd remove dropbox completely if I wasn't sharing folders with people.


dropbox issue

 

Hi.

Seems dropbox has fixed their clogged server, and the file is going fast again, wander what it was.


Re: increasing rate of windows one core voices

 

https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat/topic/31526672
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Re: increasing rate of windows one core voices

Sarah k Alawami
 

Did you raise the native 1 core voices to 100 percent and control the nvda slider after that? That tends to help me there. I have the rate boost on and I don't notice any choppyness.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 18 Dec 2019, at 15:03, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi.  I have increased the speech rate of my NVDA One Core voices to the maximum 100% but it is still rather draggy.  I tried to boost the rate via the NVDA speech settings but I don't like the result because speech then becomes more choppy and less intelligible even when I drop the rate down after applying the boost.  Is there a way I can speed up the speech via the native windows speech settings itself?  Thanks for any help.  Cheers!


increasing rate of windows one core voices

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  I have increased the speech rate of my NVDA One Core voices to the maximum 100% but it is still rather draggy.  I tried to boost the rate via the NVDA speech settings but I don't like the result because speech then becomes more choppy and less intelligible even when I drop the rate down after applying the boost.  Is there a way I can speed up the speech via the native windows speech settings itself?  Thanks for any help.  Cheers!


Re: passwords and also a dropbox thing

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'm having no issues with dropbox on all of my platforms. I would check your own network and ping times etc with a 4 packet ping to google's servers. I'm on their pro plan so not sure if that makes a difference.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

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On 18 Dec 2019, at 12:13, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hi.

This is a 2 part message with a 2 part subject.

I could do 2 messages but both topics are short so I won't.

1.  passwords should and I repeat not be saved anywhere especially in a web app aparently they are not secure.

On the security note, its been confirmed today via winaero, that microsoft security essentials will end its little stand alone life at the end of windows 7 lifespan.

You should all know when that is, its been bandied via microsoft via its addware compaigns, its websites, its news, its updates, this list, its various social network channels, in other words, its next month.

So another reason to upgrade to windows 10 is simply you will not have any antivirus protection at all.

I suspect with msse out, every other security manufacturer will probably follow suit in short order.

Unlike xp, at least for a while, a lot of the programs that ran on windows 7, will continue to be updated maybe for a bit but still.

Lastly, what is up with dropbox.

Someone or thing is really bogging down the platform, the update to the software which usually is done in minutes is taking hours and hours, failing a lot.

I have had to resume downloads multiple times.

Once I get it done on my system I will run the update on each system with it from a flash drive.

I am not sure if it effects the entire network on their end but something is consuming their entire cloud space bandwidth.

I don't use it for much but if you needed a reason to not use it, that would be it.

google itself seems fine the only time they dropped out is when their datacentre close to us failed.

They probably do more than dropbox ever did but yeah dropbox is running slowly.


passwords and also a dropbox thing

 

Hi.

This is a 2 part message with a 2 part subject.

I could do 2 messages but both topics are short so I won't.

1.  passwords should and I repeat not be saved anywhere especially in a web app aparently they are not secure.

On the security note, its been confirmed today via winaero, that microsoft security essentials will end its little stand alone life at the end of windows 7 lifespan.

You should all know when that is, its been bandied via microsoft via its addware compaigns, its websites, its news, its updates, this list, its various social network channels, in other words, its next month.

So another reason to upgrade to windows 10 is simply you will not have any antivirus protection at all.

I suspect with msse out, every other security manufacturer will probably follow suit in short order.

Unlike xp, at least for a while, a lot of the programs that ran on windows 7, will continue to be updated maybe for a bit but still.

Lastly, what is up with dropbox.

Someone or thing is really bogging down the platform, the update to the software which usually is done in minutes is taking hours and hours, failing a lot.

I have had to resume downloads multiple times.

Once I get it done on my system I will run the update on each system with it from a flash drive.

I am not sure if it effects the entire network on their end but something is consuming their entire cloud space bandwidth.

I don't use it for much but if you needed a reason to not use it, that would be it.

google itself seems fine the only time they dropped out is when their datacentre close to us failed.

They probably do more than dropbox ever did but yeah dropbox is running slowly.