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Re: Alternative like jaws curser for NVDA,
Arlene
Yes, that would be nice if you can have the same alternative for NVDA. Speaking of NVDA, how does one put links in a list as you do with Jaws? Can you do it?
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From: Ramesh Patil
Sent: December 21, 2019 8:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Alternative like jaws curser for NVDA,
Hello friends, I would like to know there is any option to use NVDA as a jaws curser. I have used insert plus left aur right Arrow, but it it reads only certain loops. It's not moved from top to bottom means from title bar to end bar for any application. thank you regards
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Re: Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand
Arlene
Hi there: Can you use Narator for your main screen reader? Someone did ask me if you can. I did tell this person I’m not sure if you can.
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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: December 21, 2019 8:32 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand
Well, the licence will be tied to your bios.
You will probably want to set the system up and refresh it/reformat immediately because of the amount of bloat on it.
You can use fresh start for this but I forget where it is.
If you got office there is a key, most installs are the same and yeah they work.
Narator has come a long way since 2016.
You can start and stop it and you can run nvda with it to if you want you don't need to and you can't uninstall it.
I sometimes run nvda and narator together because narator scan can be usefull.
You can set up windows with narator and to some extent use narator, nvda will work with a lot more apps but if you read your article from 2016 well its old.
As for office it depends on the version as I said.
Basically you will need to adjust background apps to not load everything bar windows security, and you will also want to adjust your privacy and security settings to what you want and a few other things.
If you are not wanting to reformat just yet, removing unwanted stuff is fine.
The issue I have found with all the systems that have come preconfigured mainly my hp boxes is that windows came with several recovery partitions, including but not limited to, recovery bios and diagnostic partitions and important recovery and oem partitions.
The point being that you may reach a point where windows will not be able to install feature updates due to the fact there is no more space to create a recovery partition and set extra stuff up.
There is a probable way round that but the way I have done it is to clear out all the drives, by cleaning all partitions except with thehard drive if its a secondary where I can clear the secondary partition off it and then well expand the volume.
With windows and your drivers downloadable from the net you won't need to have the spaciffic configurations needed anyway.
If you are going the new user rout, you probably will have a lot of trials like mcafee and other stuff about.
The easiest way is to download all the drivers or get someone to do it, and then clear off the entire computer then recreate all partitions, then and only then install windows or well you can do that yourself.
After doing this to all systems I have had no issue with them not wanting to install updates for features at all.
I have always tried to custom build things myself but saying that I have never had shop brought shop branded things so maybe I can control things.
On 22/12/2019 7:30 am, David Russell wrote: > Hello NVDA Members, > > I first want to express thanks to NV Everiss for taking the time to > send me an admittedly rough guide to ensure windows 10 gets installed > on my newly purchased all-in-one computer. > > I have a couple concerns that relate to this topic and NVDA that may > also be of concern to others in a similar situation: > "I found a 2016 article at Accessibility Central, discouraging then > the download of windows 2010 and reasons given. Since this comes with > the Narrator Screen Reader, am I obligated to use it for setting up > windows on any computer as a blind person? > > - Since Narrator is the built-in screen reading program, will the > installation of Win10 work if I follow the steps from > support.microsoft.com > > According to them one can install windows by using Narrator. > > Note: I did purchase a product key for MS Office, and though yet to > open the box, assume a product key comes with the windows 10 on this > Acer PC. > > - If I have to do much more to ensure proper install of windows and MS > Office, than finding an outside vendor may be wise. > > - The final issue is if I want NVDA, can I uninstall Narrator and make > NVDA the primary screen reader, once all is installed? > > Thanks once again! > Sincerely,
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Re: Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand
Well, the licence will be tied to your bios.
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You will probably want to set the system up and refresh it/reformat immediately because of the amount of bloat on it. You can use fresh start for this but I forget where it is. If you got office there is a key, most installs are the same and yeah they work. Narator has come a long way since 2016. You can start and stop it and you can run nvda with it to if you want you don't need to and you can't uninstall it. I sometimes run nvda and narator together because narator scan can be usefull. You can set up windows with narator and to some extent use narator, nvda will work with a lot more apps but if you read your article from 2016 well its old. As for office it depends on the version as I said. Basically you will need to adjust background apps to not load everything bar windows security, and you will also want to adjust your privacy and security settings to what you want and a few other things. If you are not wanting to reformat just yet, removing unwanted stuff is fine. The issue I have found with all the systems that have come preconfigured mainly my hp boxes is that windows came with several recovery partitions, including but not limited to, recovery bios and diagnostic partitions and important recovery and oem partitions. The point being that you may reach a point where windows will not be able to install feature updates due to the fact there is no more space to create a recovery partition and set extra stuff up. There is a probable way round that but the way I have done it is to clear out all the drives, by cleaning all partitions except with thehard drive if its a secondary where I can clear the secondary partition off it and then well expand the volume. With windows and your drivers downloadable from the net you won't need to have the spaciffic configurations needed anyway. If you are going the new user rout, you probably will have a lot of trials like mcafee and other stuff about. The easiest way is to download all the drivers or get someone to do it, and then clear off the entire computer then recreate all partitions, then and only then install windows or well you can do that yourself. After doing this to all systems I have had no issue with them not wanting to install updates for features at all. I have always tried to custom build things myself but saying that I have never had shop brought shop branded things so maybe I can control things.
On 22/12/2019 7:30 am, David Russell wrote:
Hello NVDA Members,
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Alternative like jaws curser for NVDA,
Ramesh Patil <ramesh.patil1989@...>
Hello friends, I would like to know there is any option to use NVDA as a jaws curser. I have used insert plus left aur right Arrow, but it it reads only certain loops. It's not moved from top to bottom means from title bar to end bar for any application. thank you regards
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Re: Accessing alerts on webpages
Gene
I use Chrome mostly but that happens in Chrome
also. I have no idea if NVDA can solve the problem or if Chrome developers
have to solve it.
The information, whatever it is, seems to be
unimportant; I can do what I want regardless of not being able to read the
alert.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages and does not say the content of notification, and i thaught that i cant interact with it or activate or accept it. i use firefox. On 12/21/19, Luke <bugsyman35@...> wrote: > Hi! Just seeing this now. I noticed you said you use Firefox in a message > below. I use Firefox as well and I use this add on to get to the > notifications https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html > here is a excerpt from the link in which it will help you • NVDA+Control+N > Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is > possible. > > > > From: leochick78@... > Sent: December 3, 2019 11:41 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages > > > > How does one access alerts on a webpage? Like the would you like to save > this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat help page? > > Thanks for any help, > > Sarah > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Accessing alerts on webpages
for me, nvda sometimes says only alert!
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and does not say the content of notification, and i thaught that i cant interact with it or activate or accept it. i use firefox.
On 12/21/19, Luke <bugsyman35@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi! Just seeing this now. I noticed you said you use Firefox in a message --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: OCR WITH NVDA
Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
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thanks all
i normally hear recognising
but i dont see anything appearing
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Re: Season's greetings
Arlene
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 21, 2019 2:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Season's greetings
Hi, Clyve,
Seasons greetings. May you get what you wish for and more.
Rosemarie
On 12/21/2019 2:28 PM, Clive Pallett wrote:
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Re: OCR WITH NVDA
John Isige
Sometimes it just doesn't recognize anything. I don't just mean it works
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for some things and not others. I mean I've run it sometimes and gotten text, and then run it again on the same thing and have gotten no text whatsoever. I thought it was mostly in Facebook with memes so I didn't care too much, but it happens in programs too. I thought I'd gotten it working on FB by running with addons disabled, it worked, and then worked for a while when I reenabled everything. But I think that's stopped. This is on multiple machines BTW.
On 12/21/2019 17:49, Rui Fontes wrote:
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Re: OCR WITH NVDA
Rui Fontes
Read the recognized text as if you were in NotePad... When you want to click in anything you think is a control, press SpaceBar...
Rui Fontes
Às 17:50 de 21/12/2019, Kerryn Gunness
via Groups.Io escreveu:
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Re: Season's greetings
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Clyve,
Seasons greetings. May you get what you wish for and more.
Rosemarie
On 12/21/2019 2:28 PM, Clive Pallett
wrote:
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Season's greetings
Clive Pallett
Hello everyone,
May I take this opportunity to wish all on the list
the very best for the holiday season, however you celebrate it. May all
your presents be useful and accessible.
Best wishes,
Clive Pallett
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Re: Drag and Drop Ishue
Luke Davis
This is a week old, but nobody answered. So...
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What are you trying to drag and drop? Sometimes there is another way. Luke
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019, Bruno Aníbal Prieto González wrote:
Hello! --
Luke Davis Moderator: the new NVDA Help mailing list! (https://groups.io/g/NVDAHelp) Author: Debug Helper NVDA add-on (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/debugHelper.en.html)
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addons
Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...>
Are there any addons that allow NVDA to read text that is highlighted in a certain color?
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Re: OCR WITH NVDA
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi kerryn
If it is the one that is part of windows 10 and nvda make sure it is in focus the item you want. then it is a matter of just useing the arrow keys to see what it says.
Gene nz
On 22/12/2019 6:50 am, Kerryn Gunness
via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand
As a separate note, I would like anyone who wishes to extend this conversation further to take it to the NVDA Chat Subgroup and/or consider asking on the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users group. It's really not about NVDA in any meaningful way, as there's nothing distinctive about installing NVDA on Windows 10 versus 8.1 or 7. You simply fetch the installer for the version you wish to install and run it.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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Re: Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 02:49 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Firstly you will need to navigate a website the acer site with your model and serial, to get all the driver and programs you want.The style of computer has little to no bearing on the vast majority of setup of Windows 10. If this is a brand new computer with Windows 10 shipped with it there is no reason to need to go to the Acer support pages for drivers as the manufacturer drivers will already be installed. One very seldom needs to do this at all these days, as most OEMs have gotten much better about supplying Microsoft with their drivers for inclusion in The Great Microsoft Driver Library in the Cloud that's used by Win10 to get drivers. There is a rare exception, but I never go to get drivers in advance anymore. If you have a non-functional or flaky device, then you can go to get the OEM driver if needed. It is generally a bad idea to take a brand new machine with Windows 10 installed by the OEM and do a completely clean Windows 10 reinstall "just because." There are rare times where that may need to be done, but it's just as easy to remove bloatware that might come with the machine, or just ignore it, than it is to do a completely clean reinstall on a machine with an already fresh Windows 10 instance running on it. If the instance is stale from sitting on the shelf, well, Windows Update will take care of that in short order. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand
David Russell
Hello NVDA Members,
I first want to express thanks to NV Everiss for taking the time to send me an admittedly rough guide to ensure windows 10 gets installed on my newly purchased all-in-one computer. I have a couple concerns that relate to this topic and NVDA that may also be of concern to others in a similar situation: "I found a 2016 article at Accessibility Central, discouraging then the download of windows 2010 and reasons given. Since this comes with the Narrator Screen Reader, am I obligated to use it for setting up windows on any computer as a blind person? - Since Narrator is the built-in screen reading program, will the installation of Win10 work if I follow the steps from support.microsoft.com According to them one can install windows by using Narrator. Note: I did purchase a product key for MS Office, and though yet to open the box, assume a product key comes with the windows 10 on this Acer PC. - If I have to do much more to ensure proper install of windows and MS Office, than finding an outside vendor may be wise. - The final issue is if I want NVDA, can I uninstall Narrator and make NVDA the primary screen reader, once all is installed? Thanks once again! Sincerely, -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
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OCR WITH NVDA
Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
windows 10 with
NVDA
how to use OCR
i pressed nvda key and r and i got
recognising
thats all
what happen next
thanks
kerryn
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Re: Important release note: NVDA 2019.3 add-ons from Joseph Lee to hit the air in waves, starting January 1, 2020
Hi, Part of this has to do with apps – some add-ons were created at a time when apps weren’t accessible, or if they were, not accessible as in today (TeamTalk features, for example). Once an app becomes accessible with NVDA and other screen readers, it becomes unnecessary to keep an add-on around (or if an add-on for an app was integrated into NVDA, it is considered for removal as in Skype 7 support). Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Hello josseph lee. Thanks
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 11:42 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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