Re: Announcing Capital Letters
Gene
There isn't a separate setting for
typing.
Gene
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From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters Kind Regards Colin unless -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters Hi Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then. I use 50% to make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases. At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference. Cheers Chris On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > That is not correct. Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for > some synthesizers. It may be alright for others. the default is 30 > percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a lot of synthesizers. > also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from > one synthesizer to another. It is very unlikely that a new user would turn them > off. Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer or > some problem with the NVDA installation. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Chris Mullins > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters > > > Hi > Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the > check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is > checked. This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted > letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on." > Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open > the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital > pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50% This will make it > obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when > reading letter by letter. Note: Ensure you have "Speak typed > characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing. > > Cheers > Chris > > On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >> I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on >> the list. the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in >> using such software. If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy, >> you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of >> Eloquence. I and other list members would be happy to provide more >> information. You can try demos of both, if you wish. >> >> Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital >> notification works properly. >> >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Colin Phelan >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters >> >> You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not >> come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks >> Colin >> >> >> >> On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >> >> >> You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift >> key and type a letter. NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters. >> If >> you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using. The first thing >> we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the >> synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation. >> >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Colin Phelan >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters >> >> I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I >> cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am >> typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by >> accident. >> >> Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are >> saved in case this is the issue. >> >> Thanks >> >> Colin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >
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Re: Announcing Capital Letters
Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...>
Thanks Chris, yes if character echo is on then it works but I can't write documents listening to every character typed.
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Is this the only way I get feedback to recognise if caps log maybe on accidently? Thanks for your assistance. Kind Regards Colin
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins Sent: 28 December 2019 18:36 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters Hi Colin It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the pitch change. Cheers Chris On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...> wrote: Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: Announcing Capital Letters
Chris Mullins
Hi Colin
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It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the pitch change. Cheers Chris
On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...> wrote:
Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review a
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Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop
Ralf Kefferpuetz
Wow, that sounds really strange. I'm sure somebody already gave you the hint to disable the audio enhancements for your
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realtek playback speaker device? Cheers, Ralf
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis Sent: Samstag, 28. Dezember 2019 15:34 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop Hi Jackie and others I have made a new recording, and saved it as MP3 to prevent any file type problems. This one is a demonstration of moving down through the NVDA folder in %appdata%, followed by some rapid typing in Notepad. http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA2.mp3 Not the best quality, as it's just recorded from an iPhone microphone from a foot away, but I could plug in and record the "right" way if someone needs a better demo. There was a RealTek driver updated, although I thought this had already started at that point. Trying to roll it back would roll back the entire 1909 update, which would be annoying. If what Jackie suggests is the case, then this is unrelated to NVDA, and shouldn't be on this list. So unless someone else has some alternative theory, I will hereby discontinue this thread, with apologies for off-topicacality. Luke On Fri, 27 Dec 2019, Jackie wrote: Hey Luke? The file gives an unsupported video format error.
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Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop
molly the blind tech lover
Hi.
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I don't know if this will help, but you could try a system restore or go back to a previous windows installation. Perhaps during one of the updates some file or other got corrupted?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:34 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop Hi Jackie and others I have made a new recording, and saved it as MP3 to prevent any file type problems. This one is a demonstration of moving down through the NVDA folder in %appdata%, followed by some rapid typing in Notepad. http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA2.mp3 Not the best quality, as it's just recorded from an iPhone microphone from a foot away, but I could plug in and record the "right" way if someone needs a better demo. There was a RealTek driver updated, although I thought this had already started at that point. Trying to roll it back would roll back the entire 1909 update, which would be annoying. If what Jackie suggests is the case, then this is unrelated to NVDA, and shouldn't be on this list. So unless someone else has some alternative theory, I will hereby discontinue this thread, with apologies for off-topicacality. Luke On Fri, 27 Dec 2019, Jackie wrote: Hey Luke? The file gives an unsupported video format error.
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Re: Announcing Capital Letters
Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...>
Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review a typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing so unless there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is to do with my synth.
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Kind Regards Colin unless
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters Hi Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then. I use 50% to make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases. At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference. Cheers Chris On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: That is not correct. Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for
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Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop
Luke Davis
Hi Jackie and others
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I have made a new recording, and saved it as MP3 to prevent any file type problems. This one is a demonstration of moving down through the NVDA folder in %appdata%, followed by some rapid typing in Notepad. http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA2.mp3 Not the best quality, as it's just recorded from an iPhone microphone from a foot away, but I could plug in and record the "right" way if someone needs a better demo. There was a RealTek driver updated, although I thought this had already started at that point. Trying to roll it back would roll back the entire 1909 update, which would be annoying. If what Jackie suggests is the case, then this is unrelated to NVDA, and shouldn't be on this list. So unless someone else has some alternative theory, I will hereby discontinue this thread, with apologies for off-topicacality. Luke
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019, Jackie wrote:
Hey Luke? The file gives an unsupported video format error.
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Re: confused
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
I have run it three times. It gave me the warning I said yes And it immediately gave me an ok button. But my problem never changed.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 3:09 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] confused
You were asked to run the com registration tool and You did not do this.
On 27/12/2019 07:20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote: > The problem still exists. I noticed that when I press windows +t to > bring up the task bar it says unknown there too. > > I have done the following: > > Run restore > > Uninstalled NVDA > > Deleted the NVDA folder in app-data\roaming > > Downgraded to 2019.2 > > There is no change. > > Is there something else I should have deleted after uninstalling to make > sure NVDA was completely removed? > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! > > *From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:48 PM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] more confusion > > Hi, > > Try the following in the order shown: > > 1. Restart NVDA while focused on these apps. > 2. Restart the computer. > 3. Run “COM registration fixing tool” – NVDA menu/Tools/Run COM > registration fixing tool and follow the prompts. > > Cheers, > > Joseph > > *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert > Doc Wright godfearer > *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:14 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* [nvda] more confusion > > Now when I go to chrome it only says unknown. In IE it only reads the > title bar. In Edge I get a little more but it drags a lot before saying > anything. > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! > >
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Re: file explorer
Jimmy Vonderlinden
I had this same problem , but within the network connections window. I got around it by bringing focus to the desktop, than alt tabbing back to the window, and than I was able to move through the list of wi-fi networks. Hope this helps someone
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Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop
Jackie
Hey Luke? The file gives an unsupported video format error.
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My first thought is that you're running RealTeck & that you need an updated driver. You've also got some audio software on there called Nahemic, & it wants to optimize your audio experience. Do not, under any circumstances, allow that, as I will guarantee-told you it will be beyond suboptimal. It's kind of a b-word to navigate, too, unfortunately, but it is actually text-based, so object nav & the tab key are your friends. I realize the whole situation is unacceptable, unfortunately, I'm kind of committed till after New Year's day, so I'm not in a position to give much more help than this at present. Hopefully, though, it's enough to give you a nudge in the proper direction. If not, we can hopefully get together on the 2nd & troubleshoot this.
On 12/27/19, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
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NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop
Luke Davis
Hello
Today I acquired an MSI laptop. Intel I7 Hexacore 2.6 GHZ (4.5 burst), 32 GB RAM, 64 bit. I ran 2019.2.1 as a portable without problem, and installed 2019.3 beta. Then I updated from Windows 110 Home 1709 to 1809, and noticed the following weird behavior. I subsequently updated to 1909, and nothing has changed. I have never seen this before. Using either ESpeak or OneCore, whenever I type quickly or move the mouse, I find that speech either hangs up in bad robotic sounding buzzes, or gets really "small", like a munchkin version of the synth in use. It is a bit hard to describe. So I made a small recording: http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA1.m4a It happens always when I am typing quickly, or just moving quickly through a file list with the arrow keys. As you can hear from the file, it even happens periodically when I am typing slowly. This is really unacceptable. I purged 2019.3 and installed 2019.2.1, but the same behavior continues. If this were the old days, I would think there was some kind of IRQ conflict between the keyboard and the audio subsystem. It's been so long since I have had to solve that kind of problem though, that I'm not immediately sure how to diagnose it. Any thoughts would be welcome. Luke
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Re: confused
Kevin Cussick
You were asked to run the com registration tool and You did not do this.
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On 27/12/2019 07:20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
The problem still exists. I noticed that when I press windows +t to bring up the task bar it says unknown there too.
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Re: confused
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
I did have another problem that was simular but involved fire fox and thunder bird etc and was able to fix it.
Not sure but if you look at the following link at https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/nvda_web_browser_problem/4415326?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,140,4415326
I give steps on how to fix it but because no one else really had the same problem I did not put it up on my website under trouble shooting.
Look for hurrikenny and opo or gene nz it is near the top with steps.
You may have to refresh me on what is happening.
Gene nz
On 28/12/2019 7:23 am, Brian Vogel
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As to Tyler's earlier additional suggestion, the NVDA issue on GitHub that he originated on MathPlayer dates from approximately one year ago is: COM Registration Fixing tool doesn't work
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Re: confused
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
I am pretty sure when you uninstalled the maths player it uninstalled other stuff that if i remember right gave those similar results. Not sure if it is that ticket or not.
Was that around the time of the com fixing tool or earlier?
It was meant to have been fixed with the uninstall process.
I think at that time when you re installed maths player every thing went back to normal but sure was able to uninstall it at a later date with no problems?
Gene nz
On 28/12/2019 7:23 am, Brian Vogel
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As to Tyler's earlier additional suggestion, the NVDA issue on GitHub that he originated on MathPlayer dates from approximately one year ago is: COM Registration Fixing tool doesn't work
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Re: winamp is invisible with extention
Gene
Did the older one work properly? Is it still
available? If you have to use it with an older version of NVDA, do you want or
need the new version for any reason? Just because there is an update to
something doesn't necessarily mean you should use it and people would save
themselves trouble if they didn't reflexively update everything just because an
update is available. If the new update does nothing you want, you may be
better off leaving things as they are.
Gene
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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] winamp is invisible with
extention Yeah, you need to alt tab a couple times and then it works doesn't seem to completely load the extention on launch of the player almost like its not in focus if an extention can be out of focus. On 28/12/2019 4:56 am, ken lawrence via Groups.Io
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Re: winamp is invisible with extention
Yeah, you need to alt tab a couple times and then it works doesn't seem to completely load the extention on launch of the player almost like its not in focus if an extention can be out of focus.
On 28/12/2019 4:56 am, ken lawrence via
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Re: confused
Tyler Spivey
Sorry, it wasn't as obvious as I thought; that issue wasn't very clear.
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I think this should be fixed in the tool, though; trying to walk someone through this can be difficult.
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:41:31AM -0800, Brian Vogel wrote:
Tyler,
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Re: confused
To be honest, I have had issues with file explorer off and on with the windows 19xxx releases. In 1909 its a hell of a lot better but its still about. Its also happened on multiple computers not just yours. I agree with the poster, a full reformat will probably make it go away though to be honest, I have been looking for a explorer replacement as I can't rely on it. It choaks with folders with single files, folders more than 2-5 levels deep, or if you have 1 or 2 folders open and you transfer to a third or another folder on another drive. It seems to half crash. The only thing that saves me from doing anything really drastic is that bar times where I transfer stuff about which I do off and on the shell is not used much. 99.9% of the time, my daily work involves using programs on the system or directly doing stuff I know the paths for. I don't need windows shell functions for most of my daily routeens. When I am doing admin stuff I usually don't need the shell at all and if I do its 1 folder and 1 window only either a usb or a download but to be honest most of that I can do with stuff on the system which do not need me to go to folders.
On 27/12/2019 11:14 pm, David Griffith
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Re: confused
Hi, If this code works, it should let 32-bit apps use 32-bit Oleacc.dll by registering it. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Tyler, Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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Re: confused
Tyler,
This is what's in the issue, and I quote: "On my win10 machine, this python console command fixes it if NVDA is run as administrator, but I forgot exactly what it does. It seems to return an error, but I'm not sure how to turn the int back into a HRESULT. However, it doesn't work on the win7 VM: import comtypes,ctypes;p=comtypes.typeinfo.LoadTypeLibEx(r"c:\windows\syswow64\oleacc.dll");ctypes.windll.oleaut32.RegisterTypeLib(p, ur"c:\windows\syswow64\oleacc.dll", None)" I'm sorry, but even as a computer geek with decades of experience it was not entirely clear to me under what conditions this worked, or didn't. And I doubt that most readers here, including myself, have Python console expertise or even a moment's experience, which matters. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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