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Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...>
 

Thanks for that, Gene. The dismiss button or link seems to have random wording, so Find may not suffice, but browse mode b and k seem to do the trick. Cheers.


Re: NVDA not reading Spell Checker fields

Gene
 

You didn't say anything about using NVDA review commands in the dialog.  Have you tried?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not reading Spell Checker fields

Hello fellow list members,

 

I am using Office 2016 under Windows 10 with NVDA 2016.1.

 

Since I recently upgraded to Office 2016, I find that NVDA does not speak some of the essential fields in the Spell Checker. Particularly, the text that has not been found in the dictionary. The heading is there but I cannot see what text is being held. When I hit tab, NVDA speaks the suggested correction. Sometimes, I can guess which text is being amended but not always.

 

If I press F7 whilst editing the message, NVDA will track the spell check pointer and bring the focus to the erroneous word. If I press escape, interrupting the spell check, I usually find the focus point on the erroneous word. I have the Spell check set to activate automatically when I press send, just in case I have missed a typo as I normally do!. In this case, if I interrupt the Spell Check in order to see if I can see which word is causing the problem, I land at the beginning or end of the document but nowhere near the erroneous word.  So, I thought I would ask my helpful friends on the list if anyone can suggest anything that I can do about getting the spell check to speak the erroneous text while running?

 

Please help.

 

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Gene
 

Then perhaps this is shown to European users and not to others.  In addition, if you are describing a real button, you should be able to find it with the command b.  Have you tried that?  When working with web sites, using review is usually not needed and there are usually other better ways to find things.  I suspect that, if this isn't a real button, you could find whatever word you are looking for more easily and quickly by using the NVDA find and searching for the word close.  There is no way for me to check what you are describing and try my suggestions but they may be useful.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

I have figured this out - see below - but thought I should clarify things for those kind enough to stimulate my brain with suggestions. 

The reason for the banners appearing is an EU ruling that every website has to seek your approval for its use of cookies. There is some text, a link to view their cookie policy and a button or link which dismisses the banner and adds a cookie so it doesn't come up again.

F6 does not help, as the banner is typically an element of the web page - I want to remove it because it often obscures part of the web page's contents.

I am using Chrome on Windows 10, but it doesn't matter which browser is used.

Here is a link to a site for which I struggled to find the banner, to dismiss it, but I have finally figured out that using ctrl plus home or ctrl plus end will usually find the banner and I can then use Review to find the button or link which closes the banner. The link is to www.rightmove.co.uk

Brian Crabtree 
On 29 Jul 2016, at 16:35, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

But the question is why is this being seen?  Also, it isn't clear whether this is a part of a web page or something displayed by the browser. F6 will only be useful if the item is displayed as certain kinds of structures by the browser and not by the web page itself.  We don't know.  We need more information.  If possible, a link to one of the pages where this occurs should be given.  List members need to see if they see the item when going to the page.  This may be something that a browser settings change will correct.  Or it may not.  Whatever it is, we need more information. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Hi Brian:
Try pressing f6 once or twice, I think that is the command to switch
from one pane to another.
Kevin Huber


On 7/28/16, Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...> wrote:
> Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on
> other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out
> there who can supply answers.
>
> Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes
> up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.
>
> There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know,
> firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with
> NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest
> official release of NVDA.
>
> Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree
>
>
>



NVDA not reading Spell Checker fields

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hello fellow list members,

 

I am using Office 2016 under Windows 10 with NVDA 2016.1.

 

Since I recently upgraded to Office 2016, I find that NVDA does not speak some of the essential fields in the Spell Checker. Particularly, the text that has not been found in the dictionary. The heading is there but I cannot see what text is being held. When I hit tab, NVDA speaks the suggested correction. Sometimes, I can guess which text is being amended but not always.

 

If I press F7 whilst editing the message, NVDA will track the spell check pointer and bring the focus to the erroneous word. If I press escape, interrupting the spell check, I usually find the focus point on the erroneous word. I have the Spell check set to activate automatically when I press send, just in case I have missed a typo as I normally do!. In this case, if I interrupt the Spell Check in order to see if I can see which word is causing the problem, I land at the beginning or end of the document but nowhere near the erroneous word.  So, I thought I would ask my helpful friends on the list if anyone can suggest anything that I can do about getting the spell check to speak the erroneous text while running?

 

Please help.

 

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...>
 

I have figured this out - see below - but thought I should clarify things for those kind enough to stimulate my brain with suggestions. 

The reason for the banners appearing is an EU ruling that every website has to seek your approval for its use of cookies. There is some text, a link to view their cookie policy and a button or link which dismisses the banner and adds a cookie so it doesn't come up again.

F6 does not help, as the banner is typically an element of the web page - I want to remove it because it often obscures part of the web page's contents.

I am using Chrome on Windows 10, but it doesn't matter which browser is used.

Here is a link to a site for which I struggled to find the banner, to dismiss it, but I have finally figured out that using ctrl plus home or ctrl plus end will usually find the banner and I can then use Review to find the button or link which closes the banner. The link is to www.rightmove.co.uk

Brian Crabtree 

On 29 Jul 2016, at 16:35, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

But the question is why is this being seen?  Also, it isn't clear whether this is a part of a web page or something displayed by the browser. F6 will only be useful if the item is displayed as certain kinds of structures by the browser and not by the web page itself.  We don't know.  We need more information.  If possible, a link to one of the pages where this occurs should be given.  List members need to see if they see the item when going to the page.  This may be something that a browser settings change will correct.  Or it may not.  Whatever it is, we need more information. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Hi Brian:
Try pressing f6 once or twice, I think that is the command to switch
from one pane to another.
Kevin Huber


On 7/28/16, Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...> wrote:
> Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on
> other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out
> there who can supply answers.
>
> Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes
> up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.
>
> There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know,
> firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with
> NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest
> official release of NVDA.
>
> Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree
>
>
>



Re: podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

I am of the same opinion as well.
Wally

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Manish Nagwani
Sent: 30 July 2016 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Yes I too intrested

On 7/30/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Go ahead and record one Kenny.


On 7/30/2016 12:37 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free
upgrade process would work with people who use assistive technology.
The question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a
podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10


Re: podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Manish Nagwani
 

Yes I too intrested

On 7/30/16, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Go ahead and record one Kenny.


On 7/30/2016 12:37 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free upgrade
process would work with people who use assistive technology. The
question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a
podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10


Re: podcast:

Olcay AŞCI
 

Hi

The podcast content will be which you are targeting to achieve? NVIDIA will be associated with the use of a general?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] on behalf of Kenny JR peyattt the front.

Cents: Saturday, July 30, 2016 9:58 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] podcast:

 

Thoughts who are interested in the podcast I will do for the next 2 weeks. I have a desktop that has Windows 7, but I need to get it out of storage. I might be able to happens to have another laptop around to see if I can use that in my house Windows 7. What sound editing software would be best to do a podcast with? I have goldwave and audacity installed on my laptop, and I was wondering what would be the five-to-use software?

Kenny jr Feat.

 

Windows Mail for 10 cents

 


Re: podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Lino Morales
 

Go ahead and record one Kenny.


On 7/30/2016 12:37 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free upgrade process would work with people who use assistive technology. The question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



podcast:

Kenny Peyatt <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

I will do the podcast for thoughs who are interested in the next 2 weeks. I have a desktop that has windows 7, but I need to get it out of storage. I might be able to see if I can use another laptop around my house that happens to have windows 7. What sound editing software would be the best to do a podcast with? I have audacity and goldwave installed on my laptop, and I was wondering what would be the bes software to use?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


FW: [tek-talk] TEK TALK WELCOMES JOSEPH LEE, THE ANNIVERSARY OF WINDOWS 10, MONDAY AUGUST 1, 2016, 8 PM EDT, THE PAT PRICE ROOM: WWW.ACCESSIBLEWORLD.ORG

 

Hi everyone,

 

Hope to meet many of you at this event.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Re: podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'd be interested in hearing the podcast.




On 7/29/2016 9:37 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free upgrade process would work with people who use assistive technology. The question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: NVDA and Outlook message status

Arlene
 

Confirmed! I did I did forward a message and NVDA does not say forwarded. It does say replied. I switched to jaws 14 and it does say forwarded.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo Vorster
Sent: July-28-16 4:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Outlook message status

Hi everybody

I use Outlook 2010. My experience is that NVDA reads the number of mails and the unread ones, but not whether a mail was forwarded or not.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2016 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Outlook message status

Hi!
Interesting that these indications before a message in Outlook, as described earlier in this thread, are not readable by NVDA in Outlook 2010 and later versions! I'm using Outlook 2007 here, and as I arrow down the message list I hear NVDA say "message unread", "message forwarded", "attachment yes", or whatever. As I have never used a version of Outlook later than 2007, I have no idea whether such indications have completely disappeared, or whether they have changed in later versions such as Outlook 2010 in some way so that NVDA doesn't detect them. I don't know whether this problem with later versions of Outlook can be solved, but I'm sure users of Outlook 2010 and later would be glad if it could.
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: mercredi 27 juillet 2016 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Outlook message status

I actually thought there is an icon in front of each message in the Inbox message list which indicates whether a message is unread, read, replied or forwarded and another showing that the message has an attachment. I assumed that Jaws and Window-Eyes interpreted these icons correctly and would then speak the appropriate status when you arrow up and down the message list, whereas NVDA does not interpret all correctly. NVDA indicates unread messages, but does not say that a message has been forwarded, neither, if memory serves, if a message has been replied to. In other words, I think this is probably an NVDA issue rather than an Outlook issue.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/07/27 5:27 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a peculiarity with Outlook (or at least Outlook 2010, which I think has been carried over). Virtually every e-mail client or web interface prefixes a forwarded message subject with either "Fwd:" or "FW:" and that gets read when going through the message list.

Outlook strips that from the message subject and I have yet to figure out how to make it stop doing that. I have just posted a question to answers.microsoft.com and hope to learn more about how this might be changed back to the more conventional behavior where the forward and reply indicator text is left in place on the subject display.

I haven't used Outlook on a regular basis in years and hadn't realized it did this until I fired up my copy of Outlook 2010 to take a look at what is happening.


Re: NVDA and Outlook message status

Arlene
 

Oh okay, How does one set up a gmail account on another device? I had a friend trying to set up my gmail to the I pad we share. it wouldn’t let her do it. could it be that she had her mail set up on it and it remembered  her? it would not allow her to put my gmail to it. it wanted to ask a security question. We did that and it still did not allow the I pad to be set up.  Has Gmail changed its site lately? I wrote down my password we put it in. and it still would not work. this is why I asked here.   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July-29-16 9:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Outlook message status

 

Arlene,

            You can be logged in to your Gmail account from multiple devices in multiple locations at the same time.  There is no need to log out of any of them.  I am routinely logged in to my Gmail accounts, plural, via my laptop and smartphone and very often another desktop computer, too.  It is not necessary to log out on any one of those devices to log in on any others.


--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    

 


Re: podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Hermann-Josef Kurzen
 

Hi, I am interested, too


Greetings - Hermann




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Gesendet: Samstag, 30 Juli 2016 um 06:46:00 Uhr
Von: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:
Doesn't apply to me as I've already upgraded but I'd be very interested
in learning how this works.

Thanks.

Roger

On 7/29/2016 11:37 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free upgrade
process would work with people who use assistive technology. The
question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a
podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10


Re: podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Roger Stewart
 

Doesn't apply to me as I've already upgraded but I'd be very interested in learning how this works.

Thanks.

Roger









On 7/29/2016 11:37 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free upgrade process would work with people who use assistive technology. The question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



podcast on the assistive technology offer for people to upgrade to windows 10:

Kenny Peyatt <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

Hi nvda users, I thought about doing a podcast on how the free upgrade process would work with people who use assistive technology. The question I have is would anybody would be interested if I did a podcast on how this process would work?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA and Outlook message status

 

Arlene,

            You can be logged in to your Gmail account from multiple devices in multiple locations at the same time.  There is no need to log out of any of them.  I am routinely logged in to my Gmail accounts, plural, via my laptop and smartphone and very often another desktop computer, too.  It is not necessary to log out on any one of those devices to log in on any others.


--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: NVDA and Outlook message status

Arlene
 

Hi there: I have gmail connected to outlook 2010. How do I sign out of it when I want to sign in  gmail on another device? My friend’s 13 year old nephew said I have to sign my windows 7 box out of gmail so I can sign in on another device. How does one do it? Sorry if I don’t make sense. I tried to create an account using my gmail on my friend’s I pad while I was on vacation. Then her nephew said I should have signed my computer out of gmail. This computer is my main computer using it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July-29-16 8:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Outlook message status

 

Pranav,

           I am using Outlook 2010 with Conversations view, sorted by date, descending.  I think I may have removed a default column when playing around and I don't recall whether I put it back or not, but I do know that whether or not I did the behaviors I've described are consistent between NVDA and Window-Eyes, both their latest versions.

           The columns I have on display are one that switches you out of Conversations view, but not back in, and that has no hover text.  The rest are labeled with hover text and follow from left to right after that switch column in the following order:  Importance, Icon, Attachment, From, Subject, Received, Size, Flag.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    

 


Re: Reading boxes in Microsoft Word

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Kevin,

If the graphics consist of text that has been made into a picture, you will have to use OCR. You will have to unzip the docx file and OCR the images that you will find in the media folder. If however, the images have alternative text tags, then the following post from Jean NZ will help.

Pranav
Hi

I hope i have got it right that you want.

for example when you open the document then go to the top of the page, change nvda into browse mode.
Is it the text out of the graphics you want? If so press the letter G for graphic say to get to the first one. It will read out a bit of stuf of which I remembered the first and last word of the alt text.

Next I used the nvda key + the spacebar to go into focus mode on the grphic.

The next step was to used the numeric keypad. Make sure numlock is off.
I noted the first and last word, so I could figure out what was what.

Next i use the number 7 on the numeric keypad to use the review text cursor to take me one line up at a time to where the first word was. I thenused either the number 4 or 6 to find the start of the line of the sentence.
I then used the number one on the numeric keypad to take me to the very first letter of the sentence. Next i used the nvda key + the f9 key to start the mark which was at the start of the sentence.

I then used the number 9 on the numeric keypad to take me down one line at a time.
When I got to the very last line and it was read out, then I used the number 6 to take me one word to the right till i go to the last work.
The next thing I done was used the number 3 to take me one character to the right until i was at the end of the work say full stop.
Then I used the nvda key + the f 10 key to finish the mark.
to see if it was copied right then i used the nvda key + the letter C and it was spoken out.

On the numeric keypad the number 7 was previous sentence, 8 is curent, 9 is next
4 was previous word, 5 was current, and 6 was next.
1 was previous character, 2 was current and 3 was next.

I got the wife to verify that it was the text spoken from the graphic that was copied.

You will need to change back to browse mode to repeat teh process on another and do what was said above to each graphic .

hope this helps.

Hopefully this is what you meant.

Gene nz

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On 27/01/2016 8:36 p.m., Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Yes, here is an example.
Please search for the second *~* in the document. Arrow down a couple
times and you will find it.
Object review does not seem to work for me.
*note* NVDA will read it with up and down arrow, but not with left or
right arrow.
Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Gene NZ
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz
<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>> wrote:

Hi

Have you got a example?

I know on graphics if i want to know what it says aftr it has been
spoken out, I can use the review text cursor in nvda. It will even
let me do it right down to character.

I have not got any here to try it out on to see if the same thing
can be used.

Gene nz

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for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight
related topics.
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to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also
follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which NZ libraries have the NVDA screen reader
available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
To download your own copy of the free NVDA screen reader please
visit http://www.nvaccess.org/
To get your free copy of the SpeechHub synthesiser package (which
works well with NVDA), the SpeakOn MediaSuite (which is a self
voicing application), or the SpeakOn CalcPad
(calculator program) please visit http://www.speakon.org.uk/<b>

On 27/01/2016 7:49 a.m., Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,
Does anyone know how to read letter by letter in the alt text
of a graphic in MS word? My school sends me books with alt
text on graphics and NVDA will read the alt text, but often
there are equations in the alt text and I can't arrow through
the equation to read what it says slowly.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:01 PM
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Subject: [nvda] Reading boxes in Microsoft Word

Hi:

I have a Microsoft Word document with graphics contained in it. These graphics contain text. How can I read the text within these graphics using NVDA.
Kevin Huber