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Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

Rob Hudson
 

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I get what you're saying, but just imagine what it would be like to have the dialog, the background noise that's part of the scene, and synthesized subtitles all being churned out at the same time.
And that's why I said braille display. That's how I used to read them.


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

ely.r@...
 

Rob, as of now, I don't think any screen reader can read subtitles. If those
titles originated with the actual film, for all purposes they are just
images, not real text to be spoken. If the titles are broadcast added them
to are not accessible. The suggestion of finding an English audio described
version of the film is your best bet. Start by searching on the ACB Audio
Description Project at:
https://www.acb.org/adp/

Let us know what you find. You might also want to post that question to the
ADP [project list. The add your name to the list is on the site.
Luck,
Rick, a blind film teacher

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

licurici.stelistii via Groups.Io <licurici.stelistii=yahoo.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Is there any way that I can make NVDA read the subtitles from movies?
Is there a video player that I can use? I'm on Windows 7. Thanks
If the subtitle is a bitmap, i.e a picture, no way. There is theoretically a
way in vlc to see them, if they are actual text pieces scrolling on the
screen, but i Haven't found a way.


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

 

Rob,

        I get what you're saying, but just imagine what it would be like to have the dialog, the background noise that's part of the scene, and synthesized subtitles all being churned out at the same time.

        I understand what you're trying to solve, but I don't think that adding "a third layer" that's also presented auditorily will actually do that.  I guess it can't hurt to try, if it's possible, but I suspect a "making it worse, not better" outcome.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


locked The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3 - The "Last Word" until there's New Information

 

The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3:

The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the earlier topic  NVDA remote, which can be reviewed in the NVDA Group Archive by activating the link given.  The single message with the greatest detail regarding the current status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee.

The current NVDA remote will only work with NVDA up through the NVDA 2019.2 release.

When any major news about NVDA Remote becomes available you may be assured that it will be announced here.  Until and unless that happens, if you must have access to NVDA remote you will need to stay on an NVDA release that is earlier than NVDA 2019.3.  There is currently no projected date for getting NVDA Remote functioning with NVDA 2019.3 and later, but the need is recognized.

You can find contact information for the NVDA Remote developers at the bottom of the NVDA Remote Access Home Page.  Search for the link, “Christopher Toth and Tyler Spivey,” which is a mailto link for the developers.  Questions regarding NVDA Remote should be directed to them unless the functionality were to be integrated into NVDA itself.

I have previously stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until or unless something changes, so this topic is now locked.

I am begging the membership at large to simply "watch this space" for updated information once it becomes available rather than continuing to churn out topic after topic regarding NVDA Remote.  Also, please review the document:  Searching_the_NVDA_Group_Archive.docx

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


locked Re: NVDA remote

 

The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the topic  NVDA remote 
on this very forum.  The single message with the greatest detail regarding the current status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee.

The current NVDA remote will only work with NVDA up through the NVDA 2019.2 release.

I have stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until or unless something changes, so this topic is now locked.

When any major news about NVDA Remote becomes available you may be assured that it will be announced here.  Until and unless that happens, if you must have access to NVDA remote you will need to stay on an NVDA release that is earlier than NVDA 2019.3.  There is currently no projected date for getting NVDA Remote functioning with NVDA 2019.3 and later, but the need is recognized.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


locked Re: NVDA remote

Kerryn Gunness
 


yup it has been updated  in the official add on site, it is remote 2.2.1
 

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Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 1:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA remote

Has any one heard any news about this being updated?

 

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Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Sam Bushman
 

Yes, thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of René Linke
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

Hi Sam,

Do you have installed the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on for NVDA?
That add-on helps for accessibility issues some in Windows 10 Apps

René


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

Rob Hudson
 

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I would also be curious as to what the exact need is, not because it's any of my business, but because there are other possible solutions.
Well, I found it useful for example because, until recently, I could not hear speech very well at all. My speech comprehension was below forty percent. A cochlear implant fixed that, and then I went bilateral. But sometimes background noise still drowns out what is being said. Enter subtitles.


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

René Linke <rene.linke@...>
 

Hi Sam,

Do you have installed the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on for NVDA? That add-on helps for accessibility issues some in Windows 10 Apps

René


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Damien Garwood <damien@...>
 

Hi,
The impression I got is that he wanted to link contacts to events. Not sure if that can be done, with them being two separate apps.
Also, it depends how comfortable the end-user is with using UWP apps. I know I, for one, have completely uninstalled all of mine. Which of course means I haven't got a calculator now. Oh well.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 12/01/2020 05:14 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
Hello,
What’s about the default Win10 contacts and calendar apps?
Cheers,
  Ralf
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sam Bushman
*Sent:* Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 17:43
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app
Hi All,
Accessible Calendar app to track events with NVDA.
Does anyone know of a good windows calendar app that will keep track of and help schedule events that will work great with NVDA?
I need to keep track of contact info and notes relating to the event as well.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions/ideas.
Sam


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

 

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 11:47 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
Ideally you'd want to read the subs on a braille display.
This would be ideal, but not what I'd thought of when the phrase "read subtitles" was used.  It makes perfect sense, but never would have occurred to me since I can see.

I would also be curious as to what the exact need is, not because it's any of my business, but because there are other possible solutions.  I have high frequency hearing loss and recently started wearing hearing aids which have bluetooth capability.  I am able to have sound from my computer piped directly to my aids, which allows me to hear all sorts of things that I could not hear when having to listen through laptop speakers.  For years I used closed captions (and they're still on) for television but I don't need to read them nearly as much as I once did if I'm wearing my hearing aids when watching.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Sam Bushman
 

Several issues for me with that.

  1. How do you find these apps. How do you use them. How do you get a backup copy of the data?
  2. Thanks,
  3. Sam
  4.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

 

Hello,

What’s about the default Win10 contacts and calendar apps?

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 17:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

 

Hi All,

 

Accessible Calendar app to track events with NVDA.

 

Does anyone know of a good windows calendar app that will keep track of and help schedule events that will work great with NVDA?

I need to keep track of contact info and notes relating to the event as well.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/ideas.

Sam

 


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,

What’s about the default Win10 contacts and calendar apps?

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 17:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

 

Hi All,

 

Accessible Calendar app to track events with NVDA.

 

Does anyone know of a good windows calendar app that will keep track of and help schedule events that will work great with NVDA?

I need to keep track of contact info and notes relating to the event as well.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/ideas.

Sam

 


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

Rob Hudson
 

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally, I'd actually go for a dubbed version, if we're talking foreign film. Although I'd rather avoid dubbed versions, the idea of simultaneous reading of subtitles over top of the actual dialog would be maddening.
Ideally you'd want to read the subs on a braille display. But again, if the subs are a bitmap, no can do. Subs are a mess to OCR, also.


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

 

Personally, I'd actually go for a dubbed version, if we're talking foreign film.  Although I'd rather avoid dubbed versions, the idea of simultaneous reading of subtitles over top of the actual dialog would be maddening.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Accessible windows calendar app

Sam Bushman
 

Hi All,

 

Accessible Calendar app to track events with NVDA.

 

Does anyone know of a good windows calendar app that will keep track of and help schedule events that will work great with NVDA?

I need to keep track of contact info and notes relating to the event as well.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/ideas.

Sam

 


Libro FM got an accessibility upgrade.

 

I'm not sure how many here shop for audiobooks, but Libro FM is a DRM free alternative to Audible, that will also let you support your local indie bookstore. Anyway, I've done hours of testing with NVDA and the website is far more usable now. My next task is to make the search results a heading level 2, but keep the category filter and stuff at level 3 headings. Anyway, I worked hard with the team. I also stressed the need to create a culture of accessibility, not just rely on me for everything. We still have work to do, and, even as this goes out, an IOS update just rolled out with more than 10 accessibility fixes. Below is my affiliate link. Give it a look. I didn't test with Android, but I made sure they coded the Android app to the same accessibility standards. NVDA works best with the site, but it should work with JAWS.

Robert's referral link.


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

Rob Hudson
 

licurici.stelistii via Groups.Io <licurici.stelistii=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Is there any way that I can make NVDA read the subtitles from movies? Is there a video player that I can use? I'm on Windows 7. Thanks
If the subtitle is a bitmap, i.e a picture, no way. There is theoretically a way in vlc to see them, if they are actual text pieces scrolling on the screen, but i Haven't found a way.


NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

licurici.stelistii@...
 

Hello. Is there any way that I can make NVDA read the subtitles from movies? Is there a video player that I can use? I'm on Windows 7. Thanks


Re: Thunderbird Address Book Question?

Jim O'Sullivan
 

Thanks Rene
Have done most of those things.
Now I have also tried with NVDA 2019.3 beta.
Still the same.

Jim

On 11/01/2020 17:56, René Linke wrote:
Hi Jim,
Did you restart Thunderbird after updating it? That should be fixed then itself. Here it works everything with NVDA 2019.3 beta 1 and Thunderbird 68.4.1.
And did you switch to classic view?
René

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