Date   

Re: ocr solutions

 

well to be honest, I want to either stay mainstream, or switch to something thats actually updated comercially.

K1000 was my choice and before nuance got rid of omnipage the ultimate omnipage was my other option.

I was thinking of going to the dolphin product.

Openbook I am unsure of.

I have issues with the company and group that makes jaws and that software, because some things they do don't sit right with me, now and in the past.

Abbyy looks to be something a lot use and its quite good for what it is.


On 13/01/2020 8:31 am, Gene wrote:
I haven't used Text Cloner for a long time.  When I did, it was inferior to programs like Openbook, Kurzweil, Fine Reader, etc.  But there is a demo and if you try it with a sample of the kinds of material you will be scanning, you will get a good comparison. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr solutions

Hmmm what is text cloner like and is it more accessible than abbyy.

I like abbyy for what it is and use it a bunch, however, half price for upgrades is still high.

My version will run on win10 nicer than my old 14 does, and I have emailed them about a few issues but future things are always nice.



On 12/01/2020 8:54 pm, David Goldfield wrote:

For reference, the Text Cloner product page is available from the above link.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 2:18 PM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good afternoon,

I know two blind people that use tect cloner pro and it is about $139.00 I believe.

It is from premier literacy.

It works very well and is completely accessible.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr solutions

 

How old is your OCR program and how well does it work currently?  I haven't followed this for many years but for a good while, I found that upgrades may have improved marginal scanning situations but that much of the time, for most scanning under good conditions, the upgrades made little or no difference. 

 

Or are you upgrading because what you were using doesn't run in Windows 10, which is unlikely?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 6:06 PM

Subject: [nvda] ocr solutions

 

Hi.

Just wandering what ocr solutions people use.

I use abbyy fine reader and its mostly ok but access wize I have
wandered at it of late.

the latest version will cost me 190 instead of the 300 or so dollars for
a new version and I could easily upgrade it.

Right now omnipage standard costs me 192 nz right now, then again, what
do people use.

I want something that is accessible which will do ocr and scanning,
images, pdfs, paper documents.


Is it worth the upgrade of fine reader or should I switch to omnipage or
what.




Re: ocr solutions

 

Yeah and aparently their actual domain to get things is parked for now.

Looking at the prices from another site, they have a scan and read etc, I am not saving much if I just stay with mainstream software like abbyy.

On 13/01/2020 7:38 am, Howard Traxler wrote:
Found out all about text cloner on that site, but they never offerred to let me download it or buy it.


On 1/12/2020 2:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmmm what is text cloner like and is it more accessible than abbyy.

I like abbyy for what it is and use it a bunch, however, half price for upgrades is still high.

My version will run on win10 nicer than my old 14 does, and I have emailed them about a few issues but future things are always nice.



On 12/01/2020 8:54 pm, David Goldfield wrote:

For reference, the Text Cloner <http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro.php>product page is available from the above link.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 2:18 PM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good afternoon,

I know two blind people that use tect cloner pro and it is about $139.00 I believe.

It is from premier literacy.

It works very well and is completely accessible.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Rich

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2020 10:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] ocr solutions

How old is your OCR program and how well does it work currently?  I haven't followed this for many years but for a good while, I found that upgrades may have improved marginal scanning situations but that much of the time, for most scanning under good conditions, the upgrades made little or no difference.

Or are you upgrading because what you were using doesn't run in Windows 10, which is unlikely?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Thursday, January 09, 2020 6:06 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] ocr solutions

Hi.

Just wandering what ocr solutions people use.

I use abbyy fine reader and its mostly ok but access wize I have
wandered at it of late.

the latest version will cost me 190 instead of the 300 or so dollars for
a new version and I could easily upgrade it.

Right now omnipage standard costs me 192 nz right now, then again, what
do people use.

I want something that is accessible which will do ocr and scanning,
images, pdfs, paper documents.


Is it worth the upgrade of fine reader or should I switch to omnipage or
what.




.


Re: ocr solutions

Gene
 

I haven't used Text Cloner for a long time.  When I did, it was inferior to programs like Openbook, Kurzweil, Fine Reader, etc.  But there is a demo and if you try it with a sample of the kinds of material you will be scanning, you will get a good comparison. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr solutions

Hmmm what is text cloner like and is it more accessible than abbyy.

I like abbyy for what it is and use it a bunch, however, half price for upgrades is still high.

My version will run on win10 nicer than my old 14 does, and I have emailed them about a few issues but future things are always nice.



On 12/01/2020 8:54 pm, David Goldfield wrote:

For reference, the Text Cloner product page is available from the above link.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 2:18 PM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good afternoon,

I know two blind people that use tect cloner pro and it is about $139.00 I believe.

It is from premier literacy.

It works very well and is completely accessible.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr solutions

 

How old is your OCR program and how well does it work currently?  I haven't followed this for many years but for a good while, I found that upgrades may have improved marginal scanning situations but that much of the time, for most scanning under good conditions, the upgrades made little or no difference. 

 

Or are you upgrading because what you were using doesn't run in Windows 10, which is unlikely?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 6:06 PM

Subject: [nvda] ocr solutions

 

Hi.

Just wandering what ocr solutions people use.

I use abbyy fine reader and its mostly ok but access wize I have
wandered at it of late.

the latest version will cost me 190 instead of the 300 or so dollars for
a new version and I could easily upgrade it.

Right now omnipage standard costs me 192 nz right now, then again, what
do people use.

I want something that is accessible which will do ocr and scanning,
images, pdfs, paper documents.


Is it worth the upgrade of fine reader or should I switch to omnipage or
what.




Re: ocr solutions

Rui Fontes
 

1 - The last version is from 2013, it seems...

2 - The trial downloads page is out of the air and the domain for sale...

3 - Could be already closed the company?

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Howard Traxler
Enviada: domingo, 12 de janeiro de 2020 18:38
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr solutions

Found out all about text cloner on that site, but they never offerred to let me download it or buy it.

On 1/12/2020 2:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmmm what is text cloner like and is it more accessible than abbyy.

I like abbyy for what it is and use it a bunch, however, half price
for upgrades is still high.

My version will run on win10 nicer than my old 14 does, and I have
emailed them about a few issues but future things are always nice.



On 12/01/2020 8:54 pm, David Goldfield wrote:

For reference, the Text Cloner
<http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro.php>product page
is available from the above link.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 2:18 PM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good afternoon,

I know two blind people that use tect cloner pro and it is about
$139.00 I believe.

It is from premier literacy.

It works very well and is completely accessible.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Rich

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Gene
*Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2020 10:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] ocr solutions

How old is your OCR program and how well does it work currently? I
haven't followed this for many years but for a good while, I found
that upgrades may have improved marginal scanning situations but
that much of the time, for most scanning under good conditions, the
upgrades made little or no difference.

Or are you upgrading because what you were using doesn't run in
Windows 10, which is unlikely?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Thursday, January 09, 2020 6:06 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] ocr solutions

Hi.

Just wandering what ocr solutions people use.

I use abbyy fine reader and its mostly ok but access wize I have
wandered at it of late.

the latest version will cost me 190 instead of the 300 or so dollars
for
a new version and I could easily upgrade it.

Right now omnipage standard costs me 192 nz right now, then again, what
do people use.

I want something that is accessible which will do ocr and scanning,
images, pdfs, paper documents.


Is it worth the upgrade of fine reader or should I switch to
omnipage or
what.



Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use google calendar. I know, it's a web interfacew but I love it. I don't exactly know if it will link contacts though, as I have not had to do that, not yet.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jan 2020, at 9:29, Sam Bushman wrote:

Yes, thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of René Linke
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

Hi Sam,

Do you have installed the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on for NVDA?
That add-on helps for accessibility issues some in Windows 10 Apps

René


Re: ocr solutions

Howard Traxler
 

Found out all about text cloner on that site, but they never offerred to let me download it or buy it.

On 1/12/2020 2:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmmm what is text cloner like and is it more accessible than abbyy.

I like abbyy for what it is and use it a bunch, however, half price for upgrades is still high.

My version will run on win10 nicer than my old 14 does, and I have emailed them about a few issues but future things are always nice.



On 12/01/2020 8:54 pm, David Goldfield wrote:

For reference, the Text Cloner <http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro.php>product page is available from the above link.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 2:18 PM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good afternoon,

I know two blind people that use tect cloner pro and it is about $139.00 I believe.

It is from premier literacy.

It works very well and is completely accessible.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Rich

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2020 10:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] ocr solutions

How old is your OCR program and how well does it work currently?  I haven't followed this for many years but for a good while, I found that upgrades may have improved marginal scanning situations but that much of the time, for most scanning under good conditions, the upgrades made little or no difference.

Or are you upgrading because what you were using doesn't run in Windows 10, which is unlikely?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Thursday, January 09, 2020 6:06 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] ocr solutions

Hi.

Just wandering what ocr solutions people use.

I use abbyy fine reader and its mostly ok but access wize I have
wandered at it of late.

the latest version will cost me 190 instead of the 300 or so dollars for
a new version and I could easily upgrade it.

Right now omnipage standard costs me 192 nz right now, then again, what
do people use.

I want something that is accessible which will do ocr and scanning,
images, pdfs, paper documents.


Is it worth the upgrade of fine reader or should I switch to omnipage or
what.



Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

Rob Hudson
 

ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
Rob, as of now, I don't think any screen reader can read subtitles. If those
titles originated with the actual film, for all purposes they are just
images, not real text to be spoken.
Well, that's not always true. Some film disks have actual text subtitles you can copy. I won't get into how, but it's possible. And others, as you say, are just images. There is no standard.


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

Rob Hudson
 

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I get what you're saying, but just imagine what it would be like to have the dialog, the background noise that's part of the scene, and synthesized subtitles all being churned out at the same time.
And that's why I said braille display. That's how I used to read them.


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

ely.r@...
 

Rob, as of now, I don't think any screen reader can read subtitles. If those
titles originated with the actual film, for all purposes they are just
images, not real text to be spoken. If the titles are broadcast added them
to are not accessible. The suggestion of finding an English audio described
version of the film is your best bet. Start by searching on the ACB Audio
Description Project at:
https://www.acb.org/adp/

Let us know what you find. You might also want to post that question to the
ADP [project list. The add your name to the list is on the site.
Luck,
Rick, a blind film teacher

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

licurici.stelistii via Groups.Io <licurici.stelistii=yahoo.com@groups.io>
wrote:
Is there any way that I can make NVDA read the subtitles from movies?
Is there a video player that I can use? I'm on Windows 7. Thanks
If the subtitle is a bitmap, i.e a picture, no way. There is theoretically a
way in vlc to see them, if they are actual text pieces scrolling on the
screen, but i Haven't found a way.


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

 

Rob,

        I get what you're saying, but just imagine what it would be like to have the dialog, the background noise that's part of the scene, and synthesized subtitles all being churned out at the same time.

        I understand what you're trying to solve, but I don't think that adding "a third layer" that's also presented auditorily will actually do that.  I guess it can't hurt to try, if it's possible, but I suspect a "making it worse, not better" outcome.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


locked The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3 - The "Last Word" until there's New Information

 

The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3:

The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the earlier topic  NVDA remote, which can be reviewed in the NVDA Group Archive by activating the link given.  The single message with the greatest detail regarding the current status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee.

The current NVDA remote will only work with NVDA up through the NVDA 2019.2 release.

When any major news about NVDA Remote becomes available you may be assured that it will be announced here.  Until and unless that happens, if you must have access to NVDA remote you will need to stay on an NVDA release that is earlier than NVDA 2019.3.  There is currently no projected date for getting NVDA Remote functioning with NVDA 2019.3 and later, but the need is recognized.

You can find contact information for the NVDA Remote developers at the bottom of the NVDA Remote Access Home Page.  Search for the link, “Christopher Toth and Tyler Spivey,” which is a mailto link for the developers.  Questions regarding NVDA Remote should be directed to them unless the functionality were to be integrated into NVDA itself.

I have previously stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until or unless something changes, so this topic is now locked.

I am begging the membership at large to simply "watch this space" for updated information once it becomes available rather than continuing to churn out topic after topic regarding NVDA Remote.  Also, please review the document:  Searching_the_NVDA_Group_Archive.docx

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


locked Re: NVDA remote

 

The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the topic  NVDA remote 
on this very forum.  The single message with the greatest detail regarding the current status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee.

The current NVDA remote will only work with NVDA up through the NVDA 2019.2 release.

I have stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until or unless something changes, so this topic is now locked.

When any major news about NVDA Remote becomes available you may be assured that it will be announced here.  Until and unless that happens, if you must have access to NVDA remote you will need to stay on an NVDA release that is earlier than NVDA 2019.3.  There is currently no projected date for getting NVDA Remote functioning with NVDA 2019.3 and later, but the need is recognized.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


locked Re: NVDA remote

Kerryn Gunness
 


yup it has been updated  in the official add on site, it is remote 2.2.1
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 1:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA remote

Has any one heard any news about this being updated?

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Sam Bushman
 

Yes, thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of René Linke
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

Hi Sam,

Do you have installed the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on for NVDA?
That add-on helps for accessibility issues some in Windows 10 Apps

René


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

Rob Hudson
 

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I would also be curious as to what the exact need is, not because it's any of my business, but because there are other possible solutions.
Well, I found it useful for example because, until recently, I could not hear speech very well at all. My speech comprehension was below forty percent. A cochlear implant fixed that, and then I went bilateral. But sometimes background noise still drowns out what is being said. Enter subtitles.


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

René Linke <rene.linke@...>
 

Hi Sam,

Do you have installed the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on for NVDA? That add-on helps for accessibility issues some in Windows 10 Apps

René


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Damien Garwood <damien@...>
 

Hi,
The impression I got is that he wanted to link contacts to events. Not sure if that can be done, with them being two separate apps.
Also, it depends how comfortable the end-user is with using UWP apps. I know I, for one, have completely uninstalled all of mine. Which of course means I haven't got a calculator now. Oh well.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 12/01/2020 05:14 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
Hello,
What’s about the default Win10 contacts and calendar apps?
Cheers,
  Ralf
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sam Bushman
*Sent:* Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 17:43
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app
Hi All,
Accessible Calendar app to track events with NVDA.
Does anyone know of a good windows calendar app that will keep track of and help schedule events that will work great with NVDA?
I need to keep track of contact info and notes relating to the event as well.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions/ideas.
Sam


Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?

 

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 11:47 AM, Rob Hudson wrote:
Ideally you'd want to read the subs on a braille display.
This would be ideal, but not what I'd thought of when the phrase "read subtitles" was used.  It makes perfect sense, but never would have occurred to me since I can see.

I would also be curious as to what the exact need is, not because it's any of my business, but because there are other possible solutions.  I have high frequency hearing loss and recently started wearing hearing aids which have bluetooth capability.  I am able to have sound from my computer piped directly to my aids, which allows me to hear all sorts of things that I could not hear when having to listen through laptop speakers.  For years I used closed captions (and they're still on) for television but I don't need to read them nearly as much as I once did if I'm wearing my hearing aids when watching.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Sam Bushman
 

Several issues for me with that.

  1. How do you find these apps. How do you use them. How do you get a backup copy of the data?
  2. Thanks,
  3. Sam
  4.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

 

Hello,

What’s about the default Win10 contacts and calendar apps?

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 17:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

 

Hi All,

 

Accessible Calendar app to track events with NVDA.

 

Does anyone know of a good windows calendar app that will keep track of and help schedule events that will work great with NVDA?

I need to keep track of contact info and notes relating to the event as well.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/ideas.

Sam

 


Re: Accessible windows calendar app

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,

What’s about the default Win10 contacts and calendar apps?

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 17:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app

 

Hi All,

 

Accessible Calendar app to track events with NVDA.

 

Does anyone know of a good windows calendar app that will keep track of and help schedule events that will work great with NVDA?

I need to keep track of contact info and notes relating to the event as well.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/ideas.

Sam

 

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