Re: ocr solutions
Hmph.
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Well thats sort of decided it for me then. I have been buying and going with abbyy for ages, I will probably stay where I am then. Eventually this stuff will just not work and while I really like k1000 and may still eventually buy it, if I am going to buy something expensive, I'd much buy as much mainstream software with specialised addons or something rather than spending a lot of cash on stuff that no one knows or worse can't help me with that I have to doodle with. Eventually I'd like one of those docuscans or eyepal devices but thats for later. I can't have em all, and my next purchice is a dish smart tv module for my crappy non smart tv which will cost less than a new, bigger tv which will not fit in my room.
On 13/01/2020 8:47 am, Don H wrote:
Open book hasn't been updated for years and I don't think that FS is planning on updating it any time soon.
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Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?
Oriana
For various reasons, the subtitles for many English and foreign films are available at https://www.opensubtitles.org . Keep in mind that the subtitle standard is to record the speaker name for every line, but many publicly contributed subtitles simply don't. Timing can also be extremely frustrating.
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 3:03 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: ocr solutions
Sky Mundell
No they aren't they said they're now putting the OCR functions in JAWS.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] ocr solutions Open book hasn't been updated for years and I don't think that FS is planning on updating it any time soon.
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Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?
Gene
I suppose you could turn off the sound of the film
and just read the subtitles. But if you are going to do that, you might do
much better, in terms of accessibility, to see if the script of the movie is
available. There are some sites that are completely useless such as
Scriptorama, (spelling) because the person goes through all the trouble of
transcribing script after script, and doesn't include any information such as
who is speaking and the setting. There are other sites that have full
scripts, but you will get earlier drafts on some sites, not the final scripts
and there may be important differences. So be careful what the site tells
you about the script.
Actually, as I think about it, it might be
cumbersome, but using a script from Scriptorama, maybe you could use it to find
passages that are unintelligible in the film and read them while stopping the
film, then returning to the film.
Gene
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in
movies? I get what you're saying, but just imagine what it would be like to have the dialog, the background noise that's part of the scene, and synthesized subtitles all being churned out at the same time. I understand what you're trying to solve, but I don't think that adding "a third layer" that's also presented auditorily will actually do that. I guess it can't hurt to try, if it's possible, but I suspect a "making it worse, not better" outcome. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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Re: ocr solutions
Don H
Open book hasn't been updated for years and I don't think that FS is planning on updating it any time soon.
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Re: ocr solutions
well to be honest, I want to either stay mainstream, or switch to something thats actually updated comercially. K1000 was my choice and before nuance got rid of omnipage the ultimate omnipage was my other option. I was thinking of going to the dolphin product. Openbook I am unsure of. I have issues with the company and group that makes jaws and that software, because some things they do don't sit right with me, now and in the past. Abbyy looks to be something a lot use and its quite good for what it is.
On 13/01/2020 8:31 am, Gene wrote:
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Re: ocr solutions
Yeah and aparently their actual domain to get things is parked for now.
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Looking at the prices from another site, they have a scan and read etc, I am not saving much if I just stay with mainstream software like abbyy.
On 13/01/2020 7:38 am, Howard Traxler wrote:
Found out all about text cloner on that site, but they never offerred to let me download it or buy it.
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Re: ocr solutions
Gene
I haven't used Text Cloner for a long time.
When I did, it was inferior to programs like Openbook, Kurzweil, Fine Reader,
etc. But there is a demo and if you try it with a sample of the kinds of
material you will be scanning, you will get a good comparison.
Gene
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Hmmm what is text cloner like and is it more accessible than abbyy. I like abbyy for what it is and use it a bunch, however, half price for upgrades is still high. My version will run on win10 nicer than my old 14 does, and I have emailed them about a few issues but future things are always nice. On 12/01/2020 8:54 pm, David Goldfield
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Re: ocr solutions
Rui Fontes
1 - The last version is from 2013, it seems...
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2 - The trial downloads page is out of the air and the domain for sale... 3 - Could be already closed the company? Rui Fontes -----Mensagem original----- De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Howard Traxler Enviada: domingo, 12 de janeiro de 2020 18:38 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: Re: [nvda] ocr solutions Found out all about text cloner on that site, but they never offerred to let me download it or buy it.
On 1/12/2020 2:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
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Re: Accessible windows calendar app
I use google calendar. I know, it's a web interfacew but I love it. I don't exactly know if it will link contacts though, as I have not had to do that, not yet. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well. to subscribe to the feed click here Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc. Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 12 Jan 2020, at 9:29, Sam Bushman wrote:
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Re: ocr solutions
Howard Traxler
Found out all about text cloner on that site, but they never offerred to let me download it or buy it.
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On 1/12/2020 2:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
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Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?
Rob Hudson
ely.r@comcast.net wrote:
Rob, as of now, I don't think any screen reader can read subtitles. If thoseWell, that's not always true. Some film disks have actual text subtitles you can copy. I won't get into how, but it's possible. And others, as you say, are just images. There is no standard.
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Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?
Rob Hudson
Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I get what you're saying, but just imagine what it would be like to have the dialog, the background noise that's part of the scene, and synthesized subtitles all being churned out at the same time.And that's why I said braille display. That's how I used to read them.
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Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?
ely.r@...
Rob, as of now, I don't think any screen reader can read subtitles. If those
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titles originated with the actual film, for all purposes they are just images, not real text to be spoken. If the titles are broadcast added them to are not accessible. The suggestion of finding an English audio described version of the film is your best bet. Start by searching on the ACB Audio Description Project at: https://www.acb.org/adp/ Let us know what you find. You might also want to post that question to the ADP [project list. The add your name to the list is on the site. Luck, Rick, a blind film teacher
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 11:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies? licurici.stelistii via Groups.Io <licurici.stelistii=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Is there any way that I can make NVDA read the subtitles from movies?If the subtitle is a bitmap, i.e a picture, no way. There is theoretically a way in vlc to see them, if they are actual text pieces scrolling on the screen, but i Haven't found a way.
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Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?
Rob,
I get what you're saying, but just imagine what it would be like to have the dialog, the background noise that's part of the scene, and synthesized subtitles all being churned out at the same time. I understand what you're trying to solve, but I don't think that adding "a third layer" that's also presented auditorily will actually do that. I guess it can't hurt to try, if it's possible, but I suspect a "making it worse, not better" outcome. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3 - The "Last Word" until there's New Information
The Status of NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3: The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the earlier topic NVDA remote, which can be reviewed in the NVDA Group Archive by activating the link given. The single message with the greatest detail regarding the current status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee. You can find contact information for the NVDA Remote developers at the bottom of the NVDA Remote Access Home Page. Search for the link, “Christopher Toth and Tyler Spivey,” which is a mailto link for the developers. Questions regarding NVDA Remote should be directed to them unless the functionality were to be integrated into NVDA itself. I have previously stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until or unless something changes, so this topic is now locked. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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The latest information on NVDA Remote was discussed, at length, in the topic NVDA remote
on this very forum. The single message with the greatest detail regarding the current status of NVDA Remote was this one by Joseph Lee. The current NVDA remote will only work with NVDA up through the NVDA 2019.2 release. I have stated that I will lock any topic on NVDA Remote until or unless something changes, so this topic is now locked. When any major news about NVDA Remote becomes available you may be assured that it will be announced here. Until and unless that happens, if you must have access to NVDA remote you will need to stay on an NVDA release that is earlier than NVDA 2019.3. There is currently no projected date for getting NVDA Remote functioning with NVDA 2019.3 and later, but the need is recognized. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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Kerryn Gunness
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yup it has been updated in the official add
on site, it is remote 2.2.1
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Re: Accessible windows calendar app
Sam Bushman
Yes, thank you.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of René Linke Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible windows calendar app Hi Sam, Do you have installed the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on for NVDA? That add-on helps for accessibility issues some in Windows 10 Apps René
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Re: NVDA - Can it read the subtitles in movies?
Rob Hudson
Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I would also be curious as to what the exact need is, not because it's any of my business, but because there are other possible solutions.Well, I found it useful for example because, until recently, I could not hear speech very well at all. My speech comprehension was below forty percent. A cochlear implant fixed that, and then I went bilateral. But sometimes background noise still drowns out what is being said. Enter subtitles.
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