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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

Salvador Domenech Miguel
 

Oh yas. Thank you  so much, because is an add-on really interesting for people who gives support and something like that.

Cheers.

Salva Domenech
Comunicación y soporte a usuarios

El 15 ene 2020, a las 0:36, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> escribió:

Hello NVDA users, especially NVDA Remote add-on fans:
 
For the last few months, many of you were wondering about what’s going on with NVDA Remote add-on, which isn’t compatible with upcoming NVDA 2019.3. I’m delighted to announce that something is indeed happening with the add-on. According to Reef Turner, an NV Access staff and NVDA developer, NV Access people just sent a series of patches to Remote add-on developers to make the add-on ready for NVDA 2019.3.
Stay tuned for updates on this front.
Cheers,
Joseph

Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

Kara Goldfinch
 

Joseph,

This is fantastic news.

Thanks for letting us all know.

Kara

On 14/01/2020 23:36, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hello NVDA users, especially NVDA Remote add-on fans:

 

For the last few months, many of you were wondering about what’s going on with NVDA Remote add-on, which isn’t compatible with upcoming NVDA 2019.3. I’m delighted to announce that something is indeed happening with the add-on. According to Reef Turner, an NV Access staff and NVDA developer, NV Access people just sent a series of patches to Remote add-on developers to make the add-on ready for NVDA 2019.3.

Stay tuned for updates on this front.

Cheers,

Joseph

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Re: Alternatives to Excel

cecropia64
 

hi:


open office is also a good alternative.  works very well and more or less replaces Microsoft Office. Doesn't have all the bells and whistles but if   you just want spread sheetts and documents, it works well.

On 1/15/2020 6:53 AM, René Linke wrote:
Hi,

LibreOffice is now very accessible because it is getting many updates in short time (improvements, security fixes, etc.).

René


Re: Alternatives to Excel

René Linke
 

Hi,

LibreOffice is now very accessible because it is getting many updates in short time (improvements, security fixes, etc.).

René

Alternatives to Excel

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
A hard disk crash has seen off my copy of Excel 2007 so I'm looking
for an alternative amongst Open Office, Libra Office and Google. Are
there any NVDA users out there that could give me feedback regarding
the accessibility of these products and whether I could still access
my existing Excel format spreadsheets with any or all of them? Your
advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Chris

Re: NVDA and express vpn

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello,

The Windows app isn't accessible at all, and I truly mean it when I say so. The android version is better, it does have some issues but they are not essential. On the other hand, the service is of a very good quality. My work around is to connect manually on Windows, without using their software.

Regards,

Vlad.

Re: Excel and VBa 2010 Questions

Pele West
 

Hi chris

Thanks for writing and confirming that I am not going mad.

JAWS and Window-Eyes do not seem to have this problem with VBA code.

I really don't want to have to copy the code to Notepad unless I have to.

Pele

Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

David Griffith
 

Not at all stupid Clive.

 

First of all

Windows plus B to get to the notification area / system tray.

If you hear notification chevron you should press space on that to open up all your system tray icons to view. You can change settings so that your icons all show all the time but I will give instructions for that in another email if needed.

Now cursor left or right until you hear DropBox. If for whatever reason you miss this and hear notification chevron again then press space on this to make sure all your icons are showing.

As soon as you hear DropBox press the space bar.

This should open up the context menu in DropBox’s case – it does on my system.

From this menu select preferences.

Tab down to the section where it talks about badges and set this to never show and your problems with opening Office documents should disappear.

 

N>B  A regrettable feature of the system tray in Windows is that the key to open up the context menu varies. Sometimes it is enter, sometimes it is space as in this case and sometimes it is the application key. You need to experiment with each icon to see what works.

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clive Lever
Sent: 15 January 2020 00:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

Thanks David,

 

It always sounds stupid, but how do I get to Dropbox in the system tray?

 

Thanks,

Clive

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

 

I don’t know if my original suggestion  ever got posted but this  problem disappeared for  me when I went to DropBox preferences in the system tray and turned badges notifications to never show in the General tab.

 

I have never, since  doing this, had had any issue opening Office Files of any kind in my DropBox under Windows.

 

I mention this again as it seems not to have been discussed as an obvious solution despite my trying to post it yesterday.

David Griffith

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: 14 January 2020 23:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

Shaun, I'm having the same issue as Clive. I usually open files directly in Word, no matter where they are. I still have this issue with files in Dropbox whether I'm opening them  there or in Word. Fortunately, I don't need those files in Dropbox, so I've moved them to a different location.
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Re: Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?

Jacob Kruger
 

Toolbars explorer add-on?


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/toolbarsExplorer.en.html


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
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On 2020-01-15 06:14 AM, Gene wrote:
We'll see what others say, but I am not aware of an NVDA command to access tool bars.  I vaguely seem to remember a JAWS command being available but I never used it and I haven't seen anything about it for a long time. 
 
Sometimes, f6 will move you from pane to pane in a Windows program and you can move to tool bars that way.  I suspect other times, you would have to use something like object navigation.  Others who know a lot more will, I expect provide information but this may give you things to try. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> The subject line says it all. I apologise that this is probably an
> elementary question. I'm asking because I've only recently started using
> NVDA as my main Screenreader, and Jaws as secondary (only when I have to).
> Until recently I prioritised them the other way round.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi Clive.

It depends which program you're in, what toolbars are present and what you would like to do. For example, there is a scanning program that you cannot operate unless you access the toolbars as there is no menu bar. But word has toolbars that people seldom need. So the question is do you need to access the toolbars? if so, what program are you trying to access?

Cheers,

Mo.


On 15/01/2020 00:37, Clive Lever wrote:

Hi all,

 

The subject line says it all. I apologise that this is probably an elementary question. I’m asking because I’ve only recently started using NVDA as my main Screenreader, and Jaws as secondary (only when I have to). Until recently I prioritised them the other way round.

 

Thanks,

Clive

 

 

Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

Hareth
 

No. Jaws tandem is a problem for a lot of corporations and offices.
Or that's at least what they believe.
That's why FS have created a way for customized non tandem installers.

On 1/15/20, Lenron <lenron93@...> wrote:
It's insane after all jaws has remote and it's not a problem.

On 1/14/20, Mark via Groups.Io <marktyler2014=virginmedia.com@groups.io>
wrote:
I agree 100% as team leader of a tech team we use nvda remote all the
time
Mark.

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From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 15 January 2020 01:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent
patches
to add-on authors

Agreed. I still don't understand why it is not added to core. After all
we
have jaws tandem and no one complains about it. So why not nvda remote in
nvda itself? This would be useful for us personal helpers too. I hear
that
feedback all the time on the phone, or on twitter etc.
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On 14 Jan 2020, at 16:35, Robert Kingett wrote:
This is the beauty of open source software. I only wish this could be
added
to the core without non profits and government people freaking out about
it.
I'm beyond happy this is an open source project. The add on, and the
screen
reader. I also, of course, understand why many see this add on as a
possible
security risk. While I don't think the same way, I can understand the
need
for high security assurance. Could multiple people from the NVDA
community
be in charge of that github page so they could review and merge changes
if
the developers become completely tired of it in the future?






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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

So then I guess in short from a network admin would be is there a way to lock down the remote add on if it becomes part of nvda for security risk? or will it be safe as only when nvda is running it can be used then.


I guess you have to look at it from a network admin point of view. I think they can have it so add ons can not be installed etc if they do not want people to use them.

if it does not become part of NVDA and only get added in certain cases to do work with I guess we will see before long.


Gene nz


On 15/01/2020 5:15 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Out of curiosity most installs of jaws I have seen are not on a huge network There might be lone machines I mean only a copy on one pc  out of all of them on a network.


If so have they got it so the remote add on will not work on a huge network or some how have it disabled.

I mean as in there version of the addon tandam.

Or are they happy to let the person use a tandam remote part of jaws?


The reason I ask this is here in new Zealand the 3 large networks which are library networks have nvda installed on all of there computers.

The APN K network 750 computers.Christ church libraries 390 computers

Auckland libraries 600 computers all with nvda on them.


So I would be guessing they would have to lock down the remote add on some how if it was installed into nvda you would say for security purposes.

I know if nvda is not running then it does not matter.


I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.


home use etc does not matter but a large network might and might be one of the questions from them to know how to do it if part of NVDA.


Gene nz


On 15/01/2020 2:02 pm, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Agreed. I still don't understand why it is not added to core. After all we have jaws tandem and no one complains about it. So why not nvda remote in nvda itself? This would be useful for us personal helpers too. I hear that feedback all the time on the phone, or on twitter etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 14 Jan 2020, at 16:35, Robert Kingett wrote:

This is the beauty of open source software. I only wish this could be added to the core without non profits and government people freaking out about it. I'm beyond happy this is an open source project. The add on, and the screen reader. I also, of course, understand why many see this add on as a possible security risk. While I don't think the same way, I can understand the need for high security assurance. Could multiple people from the NVDA community be in charge of that github page so they could review and merge changes if the developers become completely tired of it in the future?

Re: Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?

 

hi.

I wish to preempt the following with the following statement.

After my conduct on the windows list I am trying to be a little less abrupt.

I am not sure how important toolbars are currently.

I know that for a long time from windows 95 through to xp and even 7, toolbars had stuff on them that were found in menus and were conciddered by me and others as just clutter and you just turned them off.

I have however heard conflicting things that they actually may actually be usefull but never use them myself.

Most stuff is in a menu or ribbon or something.

Then again I have never found something that I have really needed a toolbar before.

I know there is a toolbars explorer addon and while I have had it installed I have yet to need a toolbar of any sort as such.

Saying that, I have tweaks to menuise as much of the windows shell as I can, and everything I use like thunderbird I never need to access a bar bar status.

With status itself in the traditional form changing, I am unsure how true it is for any bar in any program if its got a use  or not.

With a lot of things being web based especially with chromium type deals its probable we actually won't need a toolbar, at least not generally, I mean never say never but there are things we didn't need in the past, either through access or they didn't exist before and we got on without them.

For example I never needed to login with an account and can get round with an apps account, then again I don't use all services and whatever, however there are always different ways of accessing windows even if microsoft wants you to do something else.

Thats true of other companies to.

The same is with toolbars.

I have never needed to use one but it doesn't mean others may use them.

I havn't needed to care if a command exists or not, but I will hold off judgement on if we need one or not.

I have honestly never looked into that sort of thing and I most like never will unless it is something I frequently need.


On 15/01/2020 5:14 pm, Gene wrote:
We'll see what others say, but I am not aware of an NVDA command to access tool bars.  I vaguely seem to remember a JAWS command being available but I never used it and I haven't seen anything about it for a long time. 
 
Sometimes, f6 will move you from pane to pane in a Windows program and you can move to tool bars that way.  I suspect other times, you would have to use something like object navigation.  Others who know a lot more will, I expect provide information but this may give you things to try. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> The subject line says it all. I apologise that this is probably an
> elementary question. I'm asking because I've only recently started using
> NVDA as my main Screenreader, and Jaws as secondary (only when I have to).
> Until recently I prioritised them the other way round.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Out of curiosity most installs of jaws I have seen are not on a huge network There might be lone machines I mean only a copy on one pc  out of all of them on a network.


If so have they got it so the remote add on will not work on a huge network or some how have it disabled.

I mean as in there version of the addon tandam.

Or are they happy to let the person use a tandam remote part of jaws?


The reason I ask this is here in new Zealand the 3 large networks which are library networks have nvda installed on all of there computers.

The APN K network 750 computers.Christ church libraries 390 computers

Auckland libraries 600 computers all with nvda on them.


So I would be guessing they would have to lock down the remote add on some how if it was installed into nvda you would say for security purposes.

I know if nvda is not running then it does not matter.


I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.


home use etc does not matter but a large network might and might be one of the questions from them to know how to do it if part of NVDA.


Gene nz


On 15/01/2020 2:02 pm, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Agreed. I still don't understand why it is not added to core. After all we have jaws tandem and no one complains about it. So why not nvda remote in nvda itself? This would be useful for us personal helpers too. I hear that feedback all the time on the phone, or on twitter etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 14 Jan 2020, at 16:35, Robert Kingett wrote:

This is the beauty of open source software. I only wish this could be added to the core without non profits and government people freaking out about it. I'm beyond happy this is an open source project. The add on, and the screen reader. I also, of course, understand why many see this add on as a possible security risk. While I don't think the same way, I can understand the need for high security assurance. Could multiple people from the NVDA community be in charge of that github page so they could review and merge changes if the developers become completely tired of it in the future?

Re: Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?

Gene
 

We'll see what others say, but I am not aware of an NVDA command to access tool bars.  I vaguely seem to remember a JAWS command being available but I never used it and I haven't seen anything about it for a long time. 
 
Sometimes, f6 will move you from pane to pane in a Windows program and you can move to tool bars that way.  I suspect other times, you would have to use something like object navigation.  Others who know a lot more will, I expect provide information but this may give you things to try. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> The subject line says it all. I apologise that this is probably an
> elementary question. I'm asking because I've only recently started using
> NVDA as my main Screenreader, and Jaws as secondary (only when I have to).
> Until recently I prioritised them the other way round.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
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I would not do it.
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Re: Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?

 

hi.
which i am not complete sure,
but i think you should use windows keyboard for accessing toolbars.
can you please tell me windows shortcut for this task?

On 1/15/20, Clive Lever <clive.lever1955@...> wrote:
Hi all,



The subject line says it all. I apologise that this is probably an
elementary question. I'm asking because I've only recently started using
NVDA as my main Screenreader, and Jaws as secondary (only when I have to).
Until recently I prioritised them the other way round.



Thanks,

Clive








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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

 

hi quentin.
thanks extremely for your great works and great program.
i am very glad that i always read good news from you!
God bless you and His infinite mercy i pray for you!

On 1/15/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 is now available for testing.

This update adds a few new features and fixes from beta 1 including:

- The new Windows console support using UI Automation is no longer used by
default as it is not yet ready for production use. However, it is still
available from NVDA’s advance settings panel. (#10684)
- NVDA no longer freezes in the new version of Microsoft Edge that is based
on Chromium. (#10675)
- A short sound is now optionally played when screen curtain is turned on
or off. (#10611)
- Fixed an issue when upgrading configuration from recent alpha builds.
(#10598)
- Fixed an issue when navigating lists with table navigation commands.
(#10623)

For all the details and to download the new beta, please visit:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/

As always, please do report any issues or bugs you encounter.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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were I given all the seven heavens
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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

 

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your great news!
i believe for both of remaining nvda remote as addon and integrating
remote to the nvda core.
some people like me, maybe dont and cant update there nvda, so they
need one addon for remote needs.

On 1/15/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello NVDA users, especially NVDA Remote add-on fans:



For the last few months, many of you were wondering about what's going on
with NVDA Remote add-on, which isn't compatible with upcoming NVDA 2019.3.
I'm delighted to announce that something is indeed happening with the
add-on. According to Reef Turner, an NV Access staff and NVDA developer, NV
Access people just sent a series of patches to Remote add-on developers to
make the add-on ready for NVDA 2019.3.

Stay tuned for updates on this front.

Cheers,

Joseph




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

Andrea Sherry
 

Well where can I find the expressive driver to run with the latest beta?
Andreqa

On 15/01/2020 10:40 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 is now available for testing.

This update adds a few new features and fixes from beta 1 including:

- The new Windows console support using UI Automation is no longer used by default as it is not yet ready for production use. However, it is still available from NVDA’s advance settings panel. (#10684)
- NVDA no longer freezes in the new version of Microsoft Edge that is based on Chromium. (#10675)
- A short sound is now optionally played when screen curtain is turned on or off. (#10611)
- Fixed an issue when upgrading configuration from recent alpha builds. (#10598)
- Fixed an issue when navigating lists with table navigation commands. (#10623)

For all the details and to download the new beta, please visit: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/

As always, please do report any issues or bugs you encounter.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Joseph this is a great news and thanks for sharing

We'll definitely looking for this primarily our community is likely reliable with this addons.

On 1/15/2020 7:36 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hello NVDA users, especially NVDA Remote add-on fans:

 

For the last few months, many of you were wondering about what’s going on with NVDA Remote add-on, which isn’t compatible with upcoming NVDA 2019.3. I’m delighted to announce that something is indeed happening with the add-on. According to Reef Turner, an NV Access staff and NVDA developer, NV Access people just sent a series of patches to Remote add-on developers to make the add-on ready for NVDA 2019.3.

Stay tuned for updates on this front.

Cheers,

Joseph