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Re: NVDA 2019.2 and the new Chromium Edge?

 

Hmph, well maybe I will wait for this thing to become stable before I try again.

It would make sence nvaccess focusing on the newer system.

On 16/01/2020 6:25 am, Adriani Botez wrote:
It works in NVDA 2019.3 Beta 2.

Best
Adriani


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Lisa P
Geibel
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2020 18:19
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] NVDA 2019.2 and the new Chromium Edge?

Hi,

Did anyone else get this today yet and if so, are you having any issues with
reading anything on it? Tab seems to work, but no go with the arrow keys for
us and we're also using Windows 10 version 1909. I didn't change anything in
settings, but maybe I need to?




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Re: NVDA 2019.2 and the new Chromium Edge?

 

I manually got it today to see what it did.

Look at my rant below.

Its not finnished, from my prospective it looks like old edge, new engine.

Faster content, a settings tab with good security and tracking.

Terrible ui automation issues crashing nvda and other things, a clutterred interface, and well I got rid of it quickly.

I also had to reset my default brouser, it doesn't support google services like cloudprint, and seems to want you to use bing and microsoft's own services.

The last part was not a surprise but its really not the new edge I was hoping for.

Its newer engine means faster content but its worse than the old crappy version of edge.

Its super crappy edge.

I hold off saying thats what I would expect from microsoft since this is basically version 1.0, however if this continues I don't see myself actively using it.

At least not like this.

From what I saw that actually worked, it did look nice but I disliked a lot more than I actually liked in fact I loathed and hated it a lot.

I am no longer going to hurry to get it.

If it comes, I may configure it but I will not use it at all.

The only good news, it didn't link and office programs all over the system like a version I downloaded last week did.

At least thats something.

On 16/01/2020 6:19 am, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,

Did anyone else get this today yet and if so, are you having any issues with reading anything on it? Tab seems to work, but no go with the arrow keys for us and we're also using Windows 10 version 1909. I didn't change anything in settings, but maybe I need to?



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differences from chrome and edge

 

Hi.

Hmmm from just using edge for a few minutes there is quite a difference betw them and chrome.

1.  it crashed nvda twice, first with uia in settings and when the brouser started the next time.

Of course chrome does not do this.

2. it doesn't support google cloud print, and needs you to use bing exclusively and microsoft services, I havn't found a way to change this so I may actually be able to change this.

3.  you need to use microsoft services.

If its chromium, I really think  that they should have allowed you to link google to microsoft and use both services like samsung seems to be able to.\

4.  its not chrome.

It feels unpollished, and rough as compaired to the chrome interface.

I am quite disapointed in this so called first stable.

There was so much hype on this that it really pushed my hopes through the roof.

I really, really hope that microsoft seriously means they will improve this.

For my prospective taking this for a test run, I could barely get the thing to run.

I wouldn't call this thing finnished.

In fact I would go as far as to say that this is just crappy old edge in chrome!

If microsoft thinks it can force this stuff on users, I'd be at least unhappy at this.

This interface wasn't what I was expecting.

I was expecting a streamed chrome style interface.

Oh they also use their own smart filter stuff to.

To my knowledge no one else bar them uses this at all.

I like what they have done with their data and privacy settings, but their customisation of what pages show up in new tab is a mess.

Firstly no one in their right mind want msn news, in fact no one wants 1 news site, maybe they can choose their news previder.

Actually why not have a standard uncluttered google type page with everything at your fingertips.

Google seems better results wise than their bing engine.

I have almost nothing good to say for this new brouser.

At least they kept the settings sort of in the right place

If and when it appears again, I may try to turn off ui automation flags and see if it will at least work without really falling over as I never really got a good chance to bug bash it.

If anything it is fast displaying latest news stories and the like and does try to emulate chrome.

The about page does not appear like chrome did though, in fact google chrome is safe if edge is like this.

I was really hoping for more.

At this stage work would be better spent trying to fix this for nvda 2019.3 rather than this old python2 version which will be gone in the next few months.

While it didn't change results, I had to reset where web addresses and such went manually because when opening them windows didn't know what they were.

After that everything worked.


Re: Accessible password managers, again.

John Isige
 

Thanks, I'll take a look at Firefox. I didn't even think about it until I wrote my question last night.

On 1/15/2020 7:13, Robert Kingett wrote:

FireFox is one of your best bets, but if you need to manually export your passwords for whatever reason, that's not easy to do. It is accessible though, and can generate strong passwords but I've never gotten FireFox's generator to work with the keyboard. Managing passwords is accessible, though. Chromium Edge is far better at doing this, in all aspects, though.


Re: Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

John Isige
 

I just downloaded NVDA 2019.3beta2 and told it to continue running. I'm
running Thunderbird 60.9.1, 32-bit if it matters. Message statuses work
fine for me with up and down arrows, I didn't even have to close and
restart Thunderbird. What do you mean by saying "last fully compatible
version"? What's broken? I admit I use Thunderbird pretty minimally, but
everything seems fine to me.

On 1/15/2020 9:56, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

For some reason, when I installed 2019.3 beta 2, when I read the
status line and/or navigate with up/down arrow keys, the read/unread
status of message is inconsistent or incorrect.

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this issue.  I am using
Thunderbird 60.4--the last fully compatible version of Thunderbird.


Re: edge showstopper maybe

 

Hi,
You need to use NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 or later.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] edge showstopper maybe

Hi.

There are a few big issues.

I was moving round setting things up and nvda froze up completely and I had to restart it

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (03:58:43.407):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (03:58:44.369):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - NVDAObjects.behaviors.LiveText._monitor (03:58:45.331):
Error getting initial lines
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyo", line 270, in _monitor
File "NVDAObjects\window\winConsole.pyo", line 54, in _getTextLines
File "winConsoleHandler.pyo", line 126, in getConsoleVisibleLines
File "wincon.pyo", line 75, in GetConsoleScreenBufferInfo
WindowsError: [Error 6] The handle is invalid.
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:35:56.948):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at
0x05A68690> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None)) ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:36:24.200):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at
0x05BEFD50> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None)) ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:37:14.160):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at
0x0573D2D0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None)) WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:04.387):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:19.440):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:34.496):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 590, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:49.542):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:40:04.601):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange I got this when I restarted the brouser.

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:02.773):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in _getUIACacheablePropertyValue

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:17.822):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in _getUIACacheablePropertyValue

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:32.858):
Core frozen in stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File
"C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py",
line 82, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in _getUIACacheablePropertyValue Based on this, and even though I can get this right now I am going to uninstall it and wait.

It looks like you can uninstall anyway.


edge showstopper maybe

 

Hi.

There are a few big issues.

I was moving round setting things up and nvda froze up completely and I had to restart it

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (03:58:43.407):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (03:58:44.369):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - NVDAObjects.behaviors.LiveText._monitor (03:58:45.331):
Error getting initial lines
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyo", line 270, in _monitor
  File "NVDAObjects\window\winConsole.pyo", line 54, in _getTextLines
  File "winConsoleHandler.pyo", line 126, in getConsoleVisibleLines
  File "wincon.pyo", line 75, in GetConsoleScreenBufferInfo
WindowsError: [Error 6] The handle is invalid.
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:35:56.948):
error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x05A68690> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:36:24.200):
error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x05BEFD50> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (06:37:14.160):
error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x0573D2D0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 598, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2146233079, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:04.387):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:19.440):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:34.496):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 590, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:39:49.542):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:40:04.601):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 432, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 820, in speakTextInfo
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 646, in getTextWithFields
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 622, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 628, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
I got this when I restarted the brouser.

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:02.773):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in _getUIACacheablePropertyValue

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:17.822):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in _getUIACacheablePropertyValue

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (06:49:32.858):
Core frozen in stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 231, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 1030, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 918, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 416, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 289, in speakObjectProperties
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1090, in _get_keyboardShortcut
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 744, in _getUIACacheablePropertyValue
Based on this, and even though I can get this right now I am going to uninstall it and wait.

It looks like you can uninstall anyway.


Re: NVDA 2019.2 and the new Chromium Edge?

 

Just remember that the keyboard commands for the New Chromium-based Edge will be almost precisely the same as they are for the Google Chrome browser, as both are based on the same code.

There were a number of "Old Edge only" things that will disappear.  Since I very seldom used original Edge with a screen reader I can't give any more detail than that.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: a question about the new edge browser

 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Its out if you can't wait.
Not that I'd tell anyone they must for the New Edge, as the Insider previews have been rock solid for me and others I know using them, but I'm going to wait it out just to see how long it takes for Windows Update to fetch it for me.  I'll also be curious to see what one might get asked as far as importing favorites, but it will probably just import from the existing "old" Edge favorites.

I'll continue using Edge Dev until it shows up via Windows Update.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: NVDA 2019.2 and the new Chromium Edge?

Adriani Botez
 

It works in NVDA 2019.3 Beta 2.

Best
Adriani

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Lisa P
Geibel
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2020 18:19
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] NVDA 2019.2 and the new Chromium Edge?

Hi,

Did anyone else get this today yet and if so, are you having any issues with
reading anything on it? Tab seems to work, but no go with the arrow keys for
us and we're also using Windows 10 version 1909. I didn't change anything in
settings, but maybe I need to?



a question about the new edge browser

 

Hi

Ok guys go to www.microsoft.com/edge

Its out if you can't wait.


NVDA 2019.2 and the new Chromium Edge?

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,

Did anyone else get this today yet and if so, are you having any issues with reading anything on it? Tab seems to work, but no go with the arrow keys for us and we're also using Windows 10 version 1909. I didn't change anything in settings, but maybe I need to?


Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

molly the blind tech lover
 

This is great news 😀

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

 

Hello NVDA users, especially NVDA Remote add-on fans:

 

For the last few months, many of you were wondering about what’s going on with NVDA Remote add-on, which isn’t compatible with upcoming NVDA 2019.3. I’m delighted to announce that something is indeed happening with the add-on. According to Reef Turner, an NV Access staff and NVDA developer, NV Access people just sent a series of patches to Remote add-on developers to make the add-on ready for NVDA 2019.3.

Stay tuned for updates on this front.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

Paddy Uglow <paddy.uglow@...>
 

Hi Arlene,

I get the impression that Microsoft’s auto updates will update Edge soon.

By using the download link (it downloads an .exe you’ll need to run) you can be sure that you have it now.

Thanks for re-sharing the link, Rosemarie.

  • Paddy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 January 2020 16:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Do I have to go get the windows update that makes Edge better? I never got a notification about it. If I have to go get it I wil.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paddy Uglow
Sent: January 15, 2020 8:38 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Well, that’s interesting – I’ve been following the Edge update thread as well (thanks for the upgrade link)

NVDA with Edge Chromium JUST reads the aria-label text on this page and ignores the <foreignobject> content

https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html

…whereas Chrome JUST reads the contents of the <foreignobject> tag and ignores the aria-label.

 

It’s starting to feel like 2003 again, trying to keep all the different browsers happy….

  • Paddy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paddy Uglow via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 January 2020 11:26
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Hi,

This is my first post here – I develop learning resources for a university and we want to make them NVDA-friendly.

 

I’m  currently working on a decision tree, which can be seen here:

https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html

 

I want to add an invisible description to each node on the tree to help NVDA users navigate.

Below is part of the SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) from the page: I’ve used the aria-label tag to explain where the node fits in the tree, but my NVDA doesn’t read it out. I’ve also tried title, alt and label in various places but they don’t get read out either.

Can anyone give me any hints or solutions? All I can think of is to use a hidden <div> which I don’t think is an ideal solution.

Thank you

  • Paddy

 

<svg width="950" height="800">

<g class="node" transform="translate(697.5,95)">

<foreignObject tabindex="0" focusable="true" height="48" aria-label="Option for choice, 'An example of a decision tree.'" width="110" x="-55" class="nodestyle">Keep liquid</foreignObject>

</g>

</svg>

 


Re: Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 8:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Do I have to go get the windows update that makes Edge better? I never got a notification about it. If I have to go get it I wil.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paddy Uglow
Sent: January 15, 2020 8:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Well, that’s interesting – I’ve been following the Edge update thread as well (thanks for the upgrade link)

NVDA with Edge Chromium JUST reads the aria-label text on this page and ignores the <foreignobject> content

https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html

…whereas Chrome JUST reads the contents of the <foreignobject> tag and ignores the aria-label.

 

It’s starting to feel like 2003 again, trying to keep all the different browsers happy….

-          Paddy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paddy Uglow via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 January 2020 11:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Hi,

This is my first post here – I develop learning resources for a university and we want to make them NVDA-friendly.

 

I’m  currently working on a decision tree, which can be seen here:

https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html

 

I want to add an invisible description to each node on the tree to help NVDA users navigate.

Below is part of the SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) from the page: I’ve used the aria-label tag to explain where the node fits in the tree, but my NVDA doesn’t read it out. I’ve also tried title, alt and label in various places but they don’t get read out either.

Can anyone give me any hints or solutions? All I can think of is to use a hidden <div> which I don’t think is an ideal solution.

Thank you

-          Paddy

 

<svg width="950" height="800">

<g class="node" transform="translate(697.5,95)">

<foreignObject tabindex="0" focusable="true" height="48" aria-label="Option for choice, 'An example of a decision tree.'" width="110" x="-55" class="nodestyle">Keep liquid</foreignObject>

</g>

</svg>

 


Re: Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

Arlene
 

Do I have to go get the windows update that makes Edge better? I never got a notification about it. If I have to go get it I wil.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Paddy Uglow
Sent: January 15, 2020 8:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Well, that’s interesting – I’ve been following the Edge update thread as well (thanks for the upgrade link)

NVDA with Edge Chromium JUST reads the aria-label text on this page and ignores the <foreignobject> content

https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html

…whereas Chrome JUST reads the contents of the <foreignobject> tag and ignores the aria-label.

 

It’s starting to feel like 2003 again, trying to keep all the different browsers happy….

  • Paddy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paddy Uglow via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 January 2020 11:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Hi,

This is my first post here – I develop learning resources for a university and we want to make them NVDA-friendly.

 

I’m  currently working on a decision tree, which can be seen here:

https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html

 

I want to add an invisible description to each node on the tree to help NVDA users navigate.

Below is part of the SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) from the page: I’ve used the aria-label tag to explain where the node fits in the tree, but my NVDA doesn’t read it out. I’ve also tried title, alt and label in various places but they don’t get read out either.

Can anyone give me any hints or solutions? All I can think of is to use a hidden <div> which I don’t think is an ideal solution.

Thank you

  • Paddy

 

<svg width="950" height="800">

<g class="node" transform="translate(697.5,95)">

<foreignObject tabindex="0" focusable="true" height="48" aria-label="Option for choice, 'An example of a decision tree.'" width="110" x="-55" class="nodestyle">Keep liquid</foreignObject>

</g>

</svg>

 


Re: Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

Paddy Uglow <paddy.uglow@...>
 

Well, that’s interesting – I’ve been following the Edge update thread as well (thanks for the upgrade link)

NVDA with Edge Chromium JUST reads the aria-label text on this page and ignores the <foreignobject> content

https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html

…whereas Chrome JUST reads the contents of the <foreignobject> tag and ignores the aria-label.

 

It’s starting to feel like 2003 again, trying to keep all the different browsers happy….

  • Paddy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paddy Uglow via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 January 2020 11:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

 

Hi,

This is my first post here – I develop learning resources for a university and we want to make them NVDA-friendly.

 

I’m  currently working on a decision tree, which can be seen here:

https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html

 

I want to add an invisible description to each node on the tree to help NVDA users navigate.

Below is part of the SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) from the page: I’ve used the aria-label tag to explain where the node fits in the tree, but my NVDA doesn’t read it out. I’ve also tried title, alt and label in various places but they don’t get read out either.

Can anyone give me any hints or solutions? All I can think of is to use a hidden <div> which I don’t think is an ideal solution.

Thank you

  • Paddy

 

<svg width="950" height="800">

<g class="node" transform="translate(697.5,95)">

<foreignObject tabindex="0" focusable="true" height="48" aria-label="Option for choice, 'An example of a decision tree.'" width="110" x="-55" class="nodestyle">Keep liquid</foreignObject>

</g>

</svg>


Re: a question about the new edge browser

 

When it comes to any update of any sort from Microsoft, there's nothing more definitive than the source material from them.  There is an official support document entitled, Blocker Toolkit to disable automatic delivery of Microsoft Edge (Chromium-based), that states:  "To help our customers become more secure and up-to-date, Microsoft will distribute Microsoft Edge (Chromium-based) to Home and Pro Edition devices running Windows 10 version 1803 and newer via Windows Update. This process will start after January 15th, 2020 and more information will be available on that date."   I have not actually been able to find that "more information" today.

The blocker is not intended for home use, but by organizations that need to defer the installation of "New Edge."  "Old Edge" is on its way out, and if you're offered the update definitely take it.  The Chromium-based version of Edge is far more accessible than the original Edge ever was.

Loy is correct that like anything delivered via Windows Update it will not be a "flash cut" to every Windows 10 user in a very short period of time.  The New Edge will be rolled out like other updates that aren't security patches so that Microsoft can monitor system health telemetry to determine if issues arise.  If my experience with Edge Dev is any indicator, there won't be any for the vast majority of Windows 10 users.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: a question about the new edge browser

Hareth
 

Got the regular windows update installed, no new edge.
I did some lookup and found the online installer for it:
https://c2rsetup.officeapps.live.com/c2r/downloadEdge.aspx?ProductreleaseID=Edge&;platform=Default&version=Edge&source=EdgeInsiderPage&Channel=Stable&language=en

For sure, it did install the stable new edge and replaces the old one.
Enjoy.

On 1/15/20, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all.

On the subject of edge, it may come past in the next update pass.

It is supposed to be out today.

Usually updates come out between 5 am and 8 am new zealand time, equate
that to your timezone.

There is a windowsupdate twitter and blog which will tell you to.

Currently if I search for edge I get a page which states thats its
almost there.

I'm not going to push it if it doesn't.

Yes you can install edge stable yourself, and you can also just as
quickly remove it.

I'd wait for the full system integrated  version myself.

There are a few pinned icons and links to word and other microsoft
online things to manage when you do at least with the stable version.

Some of these I do not personally like.

It does seam that you will have to make sure you reset your internet
brouser though after install as things became a little messed up after
install when I did it.

It will be interesting what this eventually does.

For myself I do wander things like what chrome will do and the
differences between it and chrome will truely be.

Most people in the house are chrome users and I am a waterfox user and
this will not change that much as everything we have is up there.

I fully presume microsoft edge will only allow native connection to
microsoft services but who knows.






Re: a question about the new edge browser

Hareth
 

Loy,
I got the monthly update the list doesn't contain the new edge.
Installed all of them, restarted PC, still no new edge.
The new online installer did it, Its definitely a big plus over the
old edge browser.
BTW, the last beta build number, is the same as it is with the stable one.

The difference is, the stable build replace the old system edge.

On 1/15/20, Loy <loyrg2845@gmail.com> wrote:
Updates usually are not posted until after 9 AM and the Edge update will not

happen for everyone at the same time.




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