Date   

Re: Alternatives to Excel

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Cearbhall.

Bear in mind that I'm not a regular user of Calc.
First, it's important to go into NVDA's document settings and ensure
that the option for cell coordinates is checked. This is also true for
Excel and it ensures that NVDA reads the cell coordinates, such as B1,
C2, etc.

In the past I remember having to occasionally move focus away from and
then back to the spreadsheet. I usually did this by pressing the alt key
twice.

Finally, I think that LibreOffice is now up to version 6.3 and so it
might be worth installing that version to see if performance improves.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/17/2020 5:35 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
David,

I have LibreOffice 5.1 and, following the discussions in this thread, I opened up an existing Excel worksheet in Calc but I found that NVDA could not find any cells in the open worksheet. Can you advise what steps I should take to get Calc going correctly with NVDA?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 2:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alternatives to Excel

I agree with your comments regarding LibreOffice. OpenOffice Calc may be a good alternative and if people find that it's doing what they need they should certainly continue to use it. However, LibreOffice receives many more updates with bug fixes and feature additions. If there's ever a chance for accessibility in Calc and Writer to be improved we're likely to see that happening in LibreOffice before OpenOffice.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=WWW.DavidGoldfield.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C678ed4e4aef945d8bccd08d79b3908c9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637148541565198991&amp;sdata=DsDbJHocJ5DIFCuld%2FG%2Fs%2Bq7YLYm0mmKjAG5HRH9SjQ%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 1/15/2020 6:53 AM, René Linke wrote:
Hi,

LibreOffice is now very accessible because it is getting many updates
in short time (improvements, security fixes, etc.).

René








Re: Alternatives to Excel

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

David,

I have LibreOffice 5.1 and, following the discussions in this thread, I opened up an existing Excel worksheet in Calc but I found that NVDA could not find any cells in the open worksheet. Can you advise what steps I should take to get Calc going correctly with NVDA?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 2:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alternatives to Excel

I agree with your comments regarding LibreOffice. OpenOffice Calc may be a good alternative and if people find that it's doing what they need they should certainly continue to use it. However, LibreOffice receives many more updates with bug fixes and feature additions. If there's ever a chance for accessibility in Calc and Writer to be improved we're likely to see that happening in LibreOffice before OpenOffice.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/15/2020 6:53 AM, René Linke wrote:
Hi,

LibreOffice is now very accessible because it is getting many updates
in short time (improvements, security fixes, etc.).

René




Re: BARD Express with NVDA still don’t get along fully

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

If you want the entire annotation then you will have to turn advance mode off. Yu can alt d to download as often as you need. You can also alt w to add to your wish list.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Dave Grossoehme
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 10:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express with NVDA still don’t get along fully

 

Good Day:  Does it work with Narrator?

 

Dave

 

 

On 1/8/2020 6:50 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

> I updated my Bard Express to version2, thus I was hoping that in this new version, the issue in where the NVDA screen reader would read the entirety of the book information when on lists of books, would get resolved, but sadly it’s the same; it only reads the first few lines of the annotation. Browsing through the BARD Express View menu, I saw an item something about Screen Readers, whose shortcut is alt+q, but no go either! Whose fault is it that NVDA doesn’t get along as other screen readers with Bard Express? not everyone of us have the means to get Jaws; also as the years have gone by, the NVDA screen reader has been maturing to the point, where me personally, I enjoy using it, thus I feel that no matter which screen reader being used, we should be able to work with the same efficiency with the BARD Express app.

> Any ideas or suggestions if there’s a setting maybe I haven’t thought abut changing to have the info read as it should, without having to go into the Book Details page for this?

> Gera

> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

>

 

 

 


Re: edge showstopper maybe

David Moore
 

What a great testimony. Nvda can do more than Jaws many times for me in many different situations!  That goes for all tools as many as you can have to do the most situations!


Re: Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

John Isige
 

Hurrikennyandopo wrote: "In mozilla thunder bird go to tools then
options then display then
advanced then under there is a setting to change your time out of your
messages. You might have to tab or arrow around to find it to change it."


There are two radio buttons in this advanced dialogue/tab. One is the
time just mentioned. The other is "immediately on display". I suspect
what's happening is that the time radio button got set somehow. Set it
to "immediately on display", and they'll stay unread forever, or rather,
until you open the message. This assumes you're not using the preview
pane, I don't know what happens with that because I don't use it.


When you get to display in options, tab and you'll get to "extensions
(link". Tab again and you'll get to a tab, probably "display". Arrow
right a couple of times and you'll get to the advanced tab. Now just tab
and the first or second thing should be the radio buttons we're talking
about.

On 1/17/2020 0:26, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Here is what is happening with my read/unread status.  In the past, I
used to be able to arrow up and down and highlight the unread messages
and the status would remain unread indefinitely until I actually
opened the message and only after I had done this and closed the
message would it show as read.  Now if I just arrow up and down over
unread messages without opening them, after a short time, they will
show as read--even though I have not yet opened them.  This began
after I installed NVDA 2019.3 beta 2.  Is there some setting in NVDA
that is causing this or perhaps some setting in Thunderbird got changed.

Any help wold be greatly appreciated.


On 1/16/2020 3:29 PM, John Isige wrote:
Huh! I didn't even know that existed. FYI, there are two radio buttons,
"immediately on display" and "after (X) seconds". Mine was set to
"immediately on display", so I can see how there would be a problem if
the other option is set, because the default time seems to be five
seconds. So that's definitely something to check, as it would be easy
enough for it to hit that if you've got a lot of mail coming in.


On 1/16/2020 13:11, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


What have you got your message time out set to? Mine is set to 5
seconds otherwise I think they show as read.


In mozilla thunder bird go to tools then options then display then
advanced then under there is a setting to change your time out of your
messages. You might have to tab or arrow around to find it to change
it.


Mine here reads the unread message as it status until I open it. I
think there was a setting in thunder bird so it could also save
replied etc but would have to look as have not used it for a long time.


Gene nz


On 17/01/2020 3:42 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Clive,

For me, NVDA used to show numbers of unread messages in the tree view
of folders when you arrowed over them.  With release of 2019.3 beta
2, this no longer works for me.  Many others are not having this
problem, so there must be something going on with my system.


On 1/16/2020 6:44 AM, Clive Lever wrote:
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I notice that when I'm
reading the list of folders in my inbox (Outlook, Office 365), in
Jaws, it tells me how many unread messages there are in the folder.
NVDA doesn't do this, to my knowledge. If it can say the total
number of unread messages the way Jaws does, please can someone tell
me how to make it do so? It's particularly useful when, say, I come
back from holiday to hundreds of messages, as it tells me when the
backlog is cleared.

Thanks,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In
Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

I'm on 68.3.1 with NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 and all message flags are read
as usual.

Cheers,
   Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 01:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In
Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

The last version of Thunderbird that reads the status line and the
read/unread status   of messages properly is 60.9 or 60 something.


On 1/15/2020 1:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just downloaded NVDA 2019.3beta2 and told it to continue running.
I'm
running Thunderbird 60.9.1, 32-bit if it matters. Message statuses
work
fine for me with up and down arrows, I didn't even have to close and
restart Thunderbird. What do you mean by saying "last fully
compatible
version"? What's broken? I admit I use Thunderbird pretty
minimally, but
everything seems fine to me.


On 1/15/2020 9:56, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

For some reason, when I installed 2019.3 beta 2, when I read the
status line and/or navigate with up/down arrow keys, the
read/unread
status of message is inconsistent or incorrect.

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this issue.  I am using
Thunderbird 60.4--the last fully compatible version of Thunderbird.





Re: Accessible password managers, again.

Jacob Kruger
 

I use keyPass, and, since it's database file is on my google drive, I only need to type in the password when opening the database, but, it otherwise synch's across all my android phones, my PC's, laptop, etc.


And, there's an android client for it, which is relatively usable.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-01-16 10:06 AM, Christopher Pross wrote:
Hey,
If I use keepass and want to sync my passwords across different devices, I have to rember two passwords. One for the database (Masterpassword) and one for the cloudprovider, right?
And so far as I know, is there no mobile app, which support 2fa.
 
At the moment I use lastpass. I am writing also a nvda add-on for the windows application 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Re: Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Here is what is happening with my read/unread status.  In the past, I used to be able to arrow up and down and highlight the unread messages and the status would remain unread indefinitely until I actually opened the message and only after I had done this and closed the message would it show as read.  Now if I just arrow up and down over unread messages without opening them, after a short time, they will show as read--even though I have not yet opened them.  This began after I installed NVDA 2019.3 beta 2.  Is there some setting in NVDA that is causing this or perhaps some setting in Thunderbird got changed.

Any help wold be greatly appreciated.

On 1/16/2020 3:29 PM, John Isige wrote:
Huh! I didn't even know that existed. FYI, there are two radio buttons,
"immediately on display" and "after (X) seconds". Mine was set to
"immediately on display", so I can see how there would be a problem if
the other option is set, because the default time seems to be five
seconds. So that's definitely something to check, as it would be easy
enough for it to hit that if you've got a lot of mail coming in.


On 1/16/2020 13:11, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


What have you got your message time out set to? Mine is set to 5
seconds otherwise I think they show as read.


In mozilla thunder bird go to tools then options then display then
advanced then under there is a setting to change your time out of your
messages. You might have to tab or arrow around to find it to change it.


Mine here reads the unread message as it status until I open it. I
think there was a setting in thunder bird so it could also save
replied etc but would have to look as have not used it for a long time.


Gene nz


On 17/01/2020 3:42 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Clive,

For me, NVDA used to show numbers of unread messages in the tree view
of folders when you arrowed over them.  With release of 2019.3 beta
2, this no longer works for me.  Many others are not having this
problem, so there must be something going on with my system.


On 1/16/2020 6:44 AM, Clive Lever wrote:
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I notice that when I'm
reading the list of folders in my inbox (Outlook, Office 365), in
Jaws, it tells me how many unread messages there are in the folder.
NVDA doesn't do this, to my knowledge. If it can say the total
number of unread messages the way Jaws does, please can someone tell
me how to make it do so? It's particularly useful when, say, I come
back from holiday to hundreds of messages, as it tells me when the
backlog is cleared.

Thanks,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In
Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

I'm on 68.3.1 with NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 and all message flags are read
as usual.

Cheers,
   Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron
Canazzi
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 01:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In
Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

The last version of Thunderbird that reads the status line and the
read/unread status   of messages properly is 60.9 or 60 something.


On 1/15/2020 1:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just downloaded NVDA 2019.3beta2 and told it to continue running.
I'm
running Thunderbird 60.9.1, 32-bit if it matters. Message statuses
work
fine for me with up and down arrows, I didn't even have to close and
restart Thunderbird. What do you mean by saying "last fully compatible
version"? What's broken? I admit I use Thunderbird pretty
minimally, but
everything seems fine to me.


On 1/15/2020 9:56, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

For some reason, when I installed 2019.3 beta 2, when I read the
status line and/or navigate with up/down arrow keys, the read/unread
status of message is inconsistent or incorrect.

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this issue.  I am using
Thunderbird 60.4--the last fully compatible version of Thunderbird.



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Windows 10 App Essentials 19.11.5 emergency patch for Edge 79 users #addonrelease

 

Hi.

Thanks joseph for fixing the edge ui automation issue.

I appreciate all the work you do, you will be difficult to replace.

Thanks.


Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

 

I have not bothered with docuscan, however is it worth it I may check it out.

On 17/01/2020 5:51 pm, Sam Bushman wrote:
I use docuScan with nvda every day including the v3 beta 2 version and it works well for me.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty with PDF Document

Andrea: DocuScan is self-voicing. Shut down NVDA before starting it.
ALT+CONTROL+D is the default shortcut to start DocuScan.

On 1/16/2020 9:44 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
A member on this list recommended Docuscanplus as a scanning program
some time ago.
Till recently this program worked perfectly.
However approx 6 weeks ago the program just said "Unknown" when I
opened it to access a document.
Are there any users of this program on this list?
Has anyone had this experience?
If this is not the correct place to ask these questions, is there a
list for this product?
Andrea





Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Sam Bushman
 

I use docuScan with nvda every day including the v3 beta 2 version and it works well for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty with PDF Document

Andrea: DocuScan is self-voicing. Shut down NVDA before starting it.
ALT+CONTROL+D is the default shortcut to start DocuScan.

On 1/16/2020 9:44 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
A member on this list recommended Docuscanplus as a scanning program
some time ago.
Till recently this program worked perfectly.
However approx 6 weeks ago the program just said "Unknown" when I
opened it to access a document.
Are there any users of this program on this list?
Has anyone had this experience?
If this is not the correct place to ask these questions, is there a
list for this product?
Andrea



Re: edge showstopper maybe

Arlene
 

Oh okay. When I got this ten box last February. My tutor who helped me with food safe installed Chrome on here. Its my default browser. I had to use it or firefox to do this course. Here’s the sick thing. I have both the latest versions of screen readers on this ten box. Guess witch one was able to help me with the online course. It was NVDA. I had to write to FS  I gave them my sign in info and told them that that needed to be fixed.  I told FS that I had to have all sighted help to do this course. I said that no screen reader could access this.  NVDA did. On the site where I took the course. Jaws did not read click anywhere to begin.  Once I was in. Jaws was able to read the info on the course but it jumped everywhere.  NVDA did not. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: January 16, 2020 4:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] edge showstopper maybe

 

Yes I use chrome on mac os, didn't much care for it on iOs but I have it. And I use chrome on windows, not as my default, but it works. Use it for my twitch stuff as it is just easy to deal with and all of my pages and bookmarks sync over.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 16 Jan 2020, at 16:45, Arlene wrote:

Sarah, have you tried Chrome on your Mac ios? If you did, You probably would like Microsoft edge.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: January 15, 2020 9:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] edge showstopper maybe

 

Exactgly. I move to have shawn band form this list as well. And yes I am calling him out publicly. This is why I hardly post on this list because of the thoughtless dribble he posts, it is just utter crap and utter nonsense.

Take care and blessings. And enjoy the new edge. Can't wait to get my hands on it on mac os. It rocks there.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 15 Jan 2020, at 14:23, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes, good post and really this is just more of the same dribble that we have had over on the windows10 list.

On 15/01/2020 21:02, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 02:44 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

still by mentioning the words alpha or beta it implies something that is
makeshift, not secure, not stable, could trash windows, could do who knows
what.

Neither of which is accurate in the world of software development.

Alpha is simply in the earliest stages of development, and may be unstable, but seldom if ever is any of the other things.

Beta is considered to be quite stable, and things released as beta by commercial and many open source entities are considered to be possible release candidates, but will not actually be designated as such until a beta has been used "in the wild" long enough to show that there are not unsuspected issues, most of which would be minor, but possibly annoying.

Alpha software carries a high risk for possible annoyance and failure of that software itself, and very seldom takes anything else along with it.

Beta software can generally be thought of as being stable, with some possible refinements at the periphery that may be needed.   It's not uncommon for something to go from beta to release sans any changes, either.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: Problems w/single key navigation

Gene
 

Can you test with an internal keyboard or a directly connected one?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems w/single key navigation

Thanks for all responses. Problem not resolved. I’m using a Bluetooth keyboard. Tried unchecking the

“(Trap All Non-Command Gestures”. I’ve uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled it. I’m very familiar with Browse mode and know that I need to be in it to do single key navigation. Since yesterday’s MS Edge and Windows updates, I can’t always tell if I’m in browse mode. When I press the NVDA key and the spacebar, NVDA goes silent and I get no audio feedback. Sometimes, Alt/Tabbing will get NVDA audio going again. MS Accessibility Desk was no help at all. Not sure what to do at this point.

Greg

 


Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Richard Wells
 

Andrea: DocuScan is self-voicing. Shut down NVDA before starting it.
ALT+CONTROL+D is the default shortcut to start DocuScan.

On 1/16/2020 9:44 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
A member on this list recommended Docuscanplus as a scanning program
some time ago.
Till recently this program worked perfectly.
However approx 6 weeks ago the program just said "Unknown" when I
opened it to access a document.
Are there any users of this program on this list?
Has anyone had this experience?
If this is not the correct place to ask these questions, is there a
list for this product?
Andrea


Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Quentin Christensen
 

I'm not familiar with it, but do you remember what might have changed around that time (Did you upgrade NVDA, DocuScanPlus, Windows, etc)?  The Docuscan website mentions a new version 3.  It might be worth either trying the release candidate of this version, or alternatively going back to the previous version to see if that makes a difference (IF v2 works but v3 doesn't, it would definitely be worth letting Serotek know).  They also have versions for if you are using System access or if you are using another screenreader such as NVDA, so you might need to use that second one with NVDA.



On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 2:44 PM Andrea Sherry <sherryan@...> wrote:
A member on this list recommended Docuscanplus as a scanning program
some time ago.
Till recently this program worked perfectly.
However approx 6 weeks ago the program just said "Unknown" when I opened
it to access a document.
Are there any users of this program on this list?
Has anyone had this experience?
If this is not the correct place to ask these questions, is there a list
for this product?
Andrea





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


issue with share point

Surendra JUJJAVARAPU
 

Dear All,

I am facing a issue with share point in, when i opened any page in classic view. when i press quick edit most of the time the nvda jis not speaking, please give a solution to it.

Thanks and Regards, 
J.Surendra.,


Difficulty with PDF Document

Andrea Sherry
 

A member on this list recommended Docuscanplus as a scanning program some time ago.
Till recently this program worked perfectly.
However approx 6 weeks ago the program just said "Unknown" when I opened it to access a document.
Are there any users of this program on this list?
Has anyone had this experience?
If this is not the correct place to ask these questions, is there a list for this product?
Andrea


Re: Problems w/single key navigation

 

Hi,

Have you tried logging out and back in or restarting your computer?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems w/single key navigation

 

Thanks for all responses. Problem not resolved. I’m using a Bluetooth keyboard. Tried unchecking the

“(Trap All Non-Command Gestures”. I’ve uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled it. I’m very familiar with Browse mode and know that I need to be in it to do single key navigation. Since yesterday’s MS Edge and Windows updates, I can’t always tell if I’m in browse mode. When I press the NVDA key and the spacebar, NVDA goes silent and I get no audio feedback. Sometimes, Alt/Tabbing will get NVDA audio going again. MS Accessibility Desk was no help at all. Not sure what to do at this point.

Greg

 


Re: Problems w/single key navigation

Greg Rhodes
 

Thanks for all responses. Problem not resolved. I’m using a Bluetooth keyboard. Tried unchecking the

“(Trap All Non-Command Gestures”. I’ve uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled it. I’m very familiar with Browse mode and know that I need to be in it to do single key navigation. Since yesterday’s MS Edge and Windows updates, I can’t always tell if I’m in browse mode. When I press the NVDA key and the spacebar, NVDA goes silent and I get no audio feedback. Sometimes, Alt/Tabbing will get NVDA audio going again. MS Accessibility Desk was no help at all. Not sure what to do at this point.

Greg

 


Re: Problems w/single key navigation

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Greg


Do you get unknown also if you use mozilla thunder bird? I did at one time have nvda not speak in web pages and mozilla thunder bird and I think around that time nvda saying unknown down on the task bar. It gave the same sort of problems as mentioned below. but I found out that the settings in mozilla had got corrupted etc some how and affected quite a few programs more Mozilla based and some others. I then deleted out the settings under %appdata% then re installed the program or 2 then it fixed it. but if i just uninstalled then setup over it again it did not.

But before or was it after that when the following was typed in below it fixed the same sort of problems having those problems.

But that was for mozilla settings.


Then after that come the com fixing tool but some times does not seem to work yet when typed in it does?

That was for a windows 10 machine at that time.

Troubleshooting - NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places
If for some reason you have problems with NVDA saying “unknown” or “pane” check for the following symptoms:

In all of your browsers, or the Mozilla Thunderbird email client, no matter what you do, you still hear “unknown” or “pane”.

In the browser, email client and other menus you notice you cannot get into your menus, or you are unable to use the quick navigation keys

When you have been told the page is loaded and notice strange behaviour

Mozilla Thunderbird saying unknown while you try to navigate it

Your applications key does not work with it being spoken out and other strange behaviour in Windows

The running applications icons are not being spoken out
It might be a good idea to do the following:
Please note: If you are hearing “unknown” or “pane” (as discussed above) NVDA might seem like it is still working properly but it may not be completely in Windows and other programmes.
You could try the following solution which will allow you to re-register your dll files in case they are causing the problem.
Press the Windows key then type the following into the search box. Type in “command prompt”. Once you have located command prompt, in the search results, press the Applications key to bring up the context menu. Arrow down to select “run as administrator” and press the Enter key. This will take you to a command prompt window. This will not be spoken out. You may need sighted assistance for this.
Type in the following command
for %x in (c:\windows\system32\*.dll) do regsvr32 /s %x
This should re-register all components in the system32 folder.
When it is finished, you can close the command prompt window with the Alt + F4 key. You should notice now where NVDA was saying “unknown” as in some examples given, NVDA should now read the icons in the running applications area of Windows, speak the content of the webpage and menus, and also in Mozilla Thunderbird and other places in Windows including the Windows applications context menu.
Run COM Registration Fixing tool
If you are getting any of the following problems below - with Windows unregistering some of the files needed by NVDA - the following tool section in NVDA will get you out of trouble. To access this tool press the NVDA key + letter N while NVDA is running. Arrow down to the tools menu. A submenu will come up. Arrow down to the menu called Run COM Registration Fixing tool... then press the Enter key.  It should register the files needed by NVDA.


Let us know what happens. I tlooks as though the tool did not work so you could try typing it in through the command prompt make sure all directions are followed correctly I know that has done the trick on the machine if the tool did not work for some reason.


The settings for mozilla seemed like a similarbug.


Gene nz



On 17/01/2020 8:39 am, Greg Rhodes wrote:

Running the NVDA com registration tool didn’t solve the problem. Still don’t have single key navigation in any of my web browsers. Other suggestions? Thanks.

 

Greg

 


Re: Alternatives to Excel

David Goldfield
 

I agree with your comments regarding LibreOffice. OpenOffice Calc may be
a good alternative and if people find that it's doing what they need
they should certainly continue to use it. However, LibreOffice receives
many more updates with bug fixes and feature additions. If there's ever
a chance for accessibility in Calc and Writer to be improved we're
likely to see that happening in LibreOffice before OpenOffice.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/15/2020 6:53 AM, René Linke wrote:
Hi,

LibreOffice is now very accessible because it is getting many updates
in short time (improvements, security fixes, etc.).

René