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Re: Nvda and Total Commander

Mallard
 

Thanks Ralf. I'll check it out.

Ciao,

Ollie

On 23/01/2020 20:09, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
And I wrote an addon for it, see here:
https://github.com/Novalis7747/totalcmd-enhanced/raw/master/totalcmd-0.6.3.nvda-addon

cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 18:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and Total Commander

Oh... One more note: you can access ftp's with it, and it works great for that porpose.





On 23/01/2020 12:20, john s wrote:
Ollie, what does this program do and how much does it cost?

At 05:23 AM 1/23/2020, Mallard, wrote:
Hello Quentin,


There are other issues, especially in the forms to set up ftp
connections, but those can't be solved, apparently.


Ciao,

Ollie




On 22/01/2020 23:03, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jarek,

I'm not familiar with the program, but if NVDA is working everywhere
except for announcing these two buttons, it sounds like the
developers of Total Commander has simply forgotten to label them.Â
The easiest solution is to contact the developer of Total Commander
and let them know and request they please label those two buttons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:20 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...
<mailto:Jarek.Krcmar@...>> wrote:

Hello all,

After starting Total Commander I select the mass re-naming in Total
Commander, Nvda is mute by two buttons.

I would like to know, what can I do for Nvda should be speaking.

Nvda speaks everywhere, but by a two buttons it is mute.


-- Jarek






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
John






Re: Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

 

yes, the new edge support all versions of windows since windows seven.
but the old edge was specific for windows ten.
yes, i have xp, but i want to know about new edge too.

On 1/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Well then it may not work for xp.  If you are still using it.  I thought
edge is only for ten.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: January 23, 2020 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.



its not specific for windows ten only.

new edge support all windows versions since windows seven.





On 1/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

If you are continuing xp I don’t think you can try Chromian Edge. Not
unless
you upgrade to windows ten.  If you end up on windows ten. You wil have
yourself a learning curve.  You will get used to it.  Edge and Chrome are
a
like if you have used firefox.  They are like firefox.  Windows ten takes
getting used to.  You can do it.  I’m afraid you can’t test these new
things
with xp!  If you intend on staying there.  It wont hurt to ask questions
I’ll tell you this. Either way you will end up on windows ten sooner or
later.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: zahra
Sent: January 23, 2020 4:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.
hi.
some people mentioned crashing when using nvda with new edge based on
chromium.
is it true?
i really wish to become familiar with new edge, and want to ask some
questions.
does it support MultiProcess forever?
is there a setting to turn the Multiprocess off?
also, does it have all the settings and options that chrome and chromium
have?
does it support flash?
can we uncheck automatic update or not?
i really wish if someone knows answers for my questions, post the answers
hear.
God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!
On 1/15/20, Robert Kingett <@blindjourno> wrote:
Joseph posted this previously, but I am busy [giving fiction to my
patreon
supporters](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter) so can't pull up his link
right now.
NVDA 2019.2 won't work with Edge without turning off UIA. The more tech
savvy people on this list can tell you if NVDA 2019.3 will work with it
on
or not. For now, I've turned my UIA in Edge back on. Below though, is
steps
on how to turn it off.
In the address bar, type,
edge://flags
Tab to search experimentation's.
Type,
UI Automation.
Hit tab until you get to a combo box.
enable it or disable it.
Happy Browsing! In the meantime, I'm creating disability fiction. [Pledge
to
see early drafts and more.](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter)
--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

Arlene
 

Well then it may not work for xp.  If you are still using it.  I thought edge is only for ten.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: January 23, 2020 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

 

its not specific for windows ten only.

new edge support all windows versions since windows seven.

 

 

On 1/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

> If you are continuing xp I don’t think you can try Chromian Edge. Not unless

> you upgrade to windows ten.  If you end up on windows ten. You wil have

> yourself a learning curve.  You will get used to it.  Edge and Chrome are a

> like if you have used firefox.  They are like firefox.  Windows ten takes

> getting used to.  You can do it.  I’m afraid you can’t test these new things

> with xp!  If you intend on staying there.  It wont hurt to ask questions

> I’ll tell you this. Either way you will end up on windows ten sooner or

> later.

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: zahra

> Sent: January 23, 2020 4:05 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

> hi.

> some people mentioned crashing when using nvda with new edge based on

> chromium.

> is it true?

> i really wish to become familiar with new edge, and want to ask some

> questions.

> does it support MultiProcess forever?

> is there a setting to turn the Multiprocess off?

> also, does it have all the settings and options that chrome and chromium

> have?

> does it support flash?

> can we uncheck automatic update or not?

> i really wish if someone knows answers for my questions, post the answers

> hear.

> God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!

> On 1/15/20, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

>> Joseph posted this previously, but I am busy [giving fiction to my patreon

>> supporters](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter) so can't pull up his link

>> right now.

>> 

>> NVDA 2019.2 won't work with Edge without turning off UIA. The more tech

>> savvy people on this list can tell you if NVDA 2019.3 will work with it on

>> or not. For now, I've turned my UIA in Edge back on. Below though, is

>> steps

>> on how to turn it off.

>> 

>> In the address bar, type,

>> 

>> 

>> edge://flags

>> 

>> 

>> Tab to search experimentation's.

>> 

>> 

>> Type,

>> 

>> 

>> UI Automation.

>> 

>> 

>> Hit tab until you get to a combo box.

>> 

>> enable it or disable it.

>> 

>> Happy Browsing! In the meantime, I'm creating disability fiction. [Pledge

>> to

>> see early drafts and more.](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter)

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

Jim O'Sullivan
 

Try changing the shortcut on your desktop for Chrome.
Point to it and press alt+enter
Change the command to something like:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --enable-dom-distiller
This may be slightly different if you have Chrome installed in a different directory.
Enter to come out of that and go back to desktop.
Close any running Chromes.
Run Chrome now using this desktop shortcut and get the menu up with alt+f
up-arrow a few times and you should find a toggle distill page
enter on this and this is similar to reader mode.
To get back to normal view just go back into the menu and toggle it off.

Jim

On 23/01/2020 11:22, zahra wrote:
what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?
On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually put
it back.



Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

Gene
 

I don't know if you can save web pages reformatted by Reader Mode.  I've never tried nor seen anything about it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

hi gene.
can you please explain how can i save web page using reader mode as html only?
when i save it in this manner, i just recieve an empty page unfortunately!
thanks for your help, God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!

On 1/23/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I saw something recently that Reader View has been removed from Chrome.  In
> Firefox, I haven't played with other browsers in this respect, the browser
> determines whether a page meets the criteria where reader  view would be
> useful and it is only offered on those pages.  So the home page of  a
> newspaper wouldn't have it.  A page containing an article from the newspaper
> would.  It is intended for reading text, such as articles and other text
> intended for reading, not for navigating, such as in a home page.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: David Griffith
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:18 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?
>
>
> I use one in the Brave  Browser called Reader View which is presumably
> identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.
>
> When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the
> context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.
>
> It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or
> alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on
> the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you
> get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt
> on some sites for example simply pressing application followed  by S will
> invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.
>
>
>
> I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke
> shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand
> the issue for those of us using screenreaders.
>
>
>
> David Griffith
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: 23 January 2020 11:58
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?
>
>
>
> There are plugins that provide reader mode.  I don't know which ones may be
> accessible.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:22 AM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?
>
>
>
> what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?
>
> On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
>> disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually
>> put
>> it back.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> By God,
> were I given all the seven heavens
> with all they contain
> in order that
> I may disobey God
> by depriving an ant
> from the husk of a grain of barley,
> I would not do it.
> imam ali
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Nvda and Total Commander

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 18:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and Total Commander

Oh... One more note: you can access ftp's with it, and it works great for that porpose.





On 23/01/2020 12:20, john s wrote:
Ollie, what does this program do and how much does it cost?

At 05:23 AM 1/23/2020, Mallard, wrote:
Hello Quentin,


There are other issues, especially in the forms to set up ftp
connections, but those can't be solved, apparently.


Ciao,

Ollie




On 22/01/2020 23:03, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jarek,

I'm not familiar with the program, but if NVDA is working everywhere
except for announcing these two buttons, it sounds like the
developers of Total Commander has simply forgotten to label them.Â
The easiest solution is to contact the developer of Total Commander
and let them know and request they please label those two buttons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:20 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...
<mailto:Jarek.Krcmar@...>> wrote:

Hello all,

After starting Total Commander I select the mass re-naming in Total
Commander, Nvda is mute by two buttons.

I would like to know, what can I do for Nvda should be speaking.

Nvda speaks everywhere, but by a two buttons it is mute.


-- Jarek






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
John



Re: Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

 

its not specific for windows ten only.
new edge support all windows versions since windows seven.

On 1/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
If you are continuing xp I don’t think you can try Chromian Edge. Not unless
you upgrade to windows ten. If you end up on windows ten. You wil have
yourself a learning curve. You will get used to it. Edge and Chrome are a
like if you have used firefox. They are like firefox. Windows ten takes
getting used to. You can do it. I’m afraid you can’t test these new things
with xp! If you intend on staying there. It wont hurt to ask questions
I’ll tell you this. Either way you will end up on windows ten sooner or
later.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: January 23, 2020 4:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.



hi.

some people mentioned crashing when using nvda with new edge based on
chromium.

is it true?

i really wish to become familiar with new edge, and want to ask some
questions.

does it support MultiProcess forever?

is there a setting to turn the Multiprocess off?

also, does it have all the settings and options that chrome and chromium
have?

does it support flash?

can we uncheck automatic update or not?

i really wish if someone knows answers for my questions, post the answers
hear.

God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!



On 1/15/20, Robert Kingett <@blindjourno> wrote:

Joseph posted this previously, but I am busy [giving fiction to my patreon
supporters](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter) so can't pull up his link
right now.
NVDA 2019.2 won't work with Edge without turning off UIA. The more tech
savvy people on this list can tell you if NVDA 2019.3 will work with it on
or not. For now, I've turned my UIA in Edge back on. Below though, is
steps
on how to turn it off.
In the address bar, type,
edge://flags
Tab to search experimentation's.
Type,
UI Automation.
Hit tab until you get to a combo box.
enable it or disable it.
Happy Browsing! In the meantime, I'm creating disability fiction. [Pledge
to
see early drafts and more.](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter)




--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

David Griffith
 

 

Yes – unfortunately  I think most Chrome Reader extensions assume you can see to click a button in the Toolbar. Some talk about “assigning keystroke”  to this function but personally for whatever reason I have never got these to work. If Chrome defaulted back to a Reader View like Firefox it would definitely make life easier for screenreader users. In the meantime using the application key works with NVDA but it is not quite as convenient.

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: 23 January 2020 18:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

A single keystroke invocation is pretty nice. With firefox, I just press the f9 key and the page reloads in reader mode. It is a useful feature, up to a point.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: January 23, 2020 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

I use one in the Brave  Browser called Reader View which is presumably identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.

When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.

It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt on some sites for example simply pressing application followed  by S will invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.

 

I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand the issue for those of us using screenreaders.

 

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 January 2020 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

There are plugins that provide reader mode.  I don't know which ones may be accessible. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: zahra

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?

On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
> Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
> disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually put
> it back.
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

 

hi gene.
can you please explain how can i save web page using reader mode as html only?
when i save it in this manner, i just recieve an empty page unfortunately!
thanks for your help, God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!

On 1/23/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I saw something recently that Reader View has been removed from Chrome. In
Firefox, I haven't played with other browsers in this respect, the browser
determines whether a page meets the criteria where reader view would be
useful and it is only offered on those pages. So the home page of a
newspaper wouldn't have it. A page containing an article from the newspaper
would. It is intended for reading text, such as articles and other text
intended for reading, not for navigating, such as in a home page.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?


I use one in the Brave Browser called Reader View which is presumably
identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.

When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the
context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.

It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or
alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on
the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you
get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt
on some sites for example simply pressing application followed by S will
invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.



I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke
shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand
the issue for those of us using screenreaders.



David Griffith





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 January 2020 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?



There are plugins that provide reader mode. I don't know which ones may be
accessible.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: zahra

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:22 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?



what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?

On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually
put
it back.




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

JM Casey
 

A single keystroke invocation is pretty nice. With firefox, I just press the f9 key and the page reloads in reader mode. It is a useful feature, up to a point.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: January 23, 2020 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

I use one in the Brave  Browser called Reader View which is presumably identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.

When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.

It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt on some sites for example simply pressing application followed  by S will invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.

 

I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand the issue for those of us using screenreaders.

 

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 January 2020 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

There are plugins that provide reader mode.  I don't know which ones may be accessible. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: zahra

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?

On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
> Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
> disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually put
> it back.
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

David Griffith
 

Sorry I  should have made clear I installed Reader view as an extension in Brave – I cannot remember if it was the Chrome or Brave Web store I got the Reader View extension from. . In any case I have never personally come across an Chrome extension that does not also work in Brave.

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 January 2020 18:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

I saw something recently that Reader View has been removed from Chrome.  In Firefox, I haven't played with other browsers in this respect, the browser determines whether a page meets the criteria where reader  view would be useful and it is only offered on those pages.  So the home page of  a newspaper wouldn't have it.  A page containing an article from the newspaper would.  It is intended for reading text, such as articles and other text intended for reading, not for navigating, such as in a home page.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

I use one in the Brave  Browser called Reader View which is presumably identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.

When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.

It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt on some sites for example simply pressing application followed  by S will invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.

 

I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand the issue for those of us using screenreaders.

 

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 January 2020 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

There are plugins that provide reader mode.  I don't know which ones may be accessible. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: zahra

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?

On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
> Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
> disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually put
> it back.
>
>
>
>


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Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

Gene
 

I saw something recently that Reader View has been removed from Chrome.  In Firefox, I haven't played with other browsers in this respect, the browser determines whether a page meets the criteria where reader  view would be useful and it is only offered on those pages.  So the home page of  a newspaper wouldn't have it.  A page containing an article from the newspaper would.  It is intended for reading text, such as articles and other text intended for reading, not for navigating, such as in a home page.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

I use one in the Brave  Browser called Reader View which is presumably identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.

When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.

It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt on some sites for example simply pressing application followed  by S will invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.

 

I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand the issue for those of us using screenreaders.

 

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 January 2020 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

There are plugins that provide reader mode.  I don't know which ones may be accessible. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: zahra

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?

On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
> Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
> disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually put
> it back.
>
>
>
>


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were I given all the seven heavens
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Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

Jackie
 

Firefox has it.

On 1/23/20, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:
I use one in the Brave Browser called Reader View which is presumably
identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.

When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the
context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.

It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or
alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on
the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you
get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt
on some sites for example simply pressing application followed by S will
invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.



I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke
shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand
the issue for those of us using screenreaders.



David Griffith





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 January 2020 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?



There are plugins that provide reader mode. I don't know which ones may be
accessible.



Gene

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:22 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?



what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?

On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@... <mailto:gjconnor@...> >
wrote:
Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually
put
it back.




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Re: Reader mode in Chrome?

David Griffith
 

I use one in the Brave  Browser called Reader View which is presumably identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.

When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.

It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt on some sites for example simply pressing application followed  by S will invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.

 

I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand the issue for those of us using screenreaders.

 

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 January 2020 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

There are plugins that provide reader mode.  I don't know which ones may be accessible. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: zahra

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 5:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reader mode in Chrome?

 

what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?

On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
> Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
> disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually put
> it back.
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

Arlene
 

If you are continuing xp I don’t think you can try Chromian Edge. Not unless you upgrade to windows ten.  If you end up on windows ten. You wil have yourself a learning curve.  You will get used to it.  Edge and Chrome are a like if you have used firefox.  They are like firefox.  Windows ten takes getting used to.  You can do it.  I’m afraid you can’t test these new things with xp!  If you intend on staying there.  It wont hurt to ask questions I’ll tell you this. Either way you will end up on windows ten sooner or later. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: January 23, 2020 4:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

 

hi.

some people mentioned crashing when using nvda with new edge based on chromium.

is it true?

i really wish to become familiar with new edge, and want to ask some questions.

does it support MultiProcess forever?

is there a setting to turn the Multiprocess off?

also, does it have all the settings and options that chrome and chromium have?

does it support flash?

can we uncheck automatic update or not?

i really wish if someone knows answers for my questions, post the answers hear.

God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!

 

On 1/15/20, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

> Joseph posted this previously, but I am busy [giving fiction to my patreon

> supporters](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter) so can't pull up his link

> right now.

> NVDA 2019.2 won't work with Edge without turning off UIA. The more tech

> savvy people on this list can tell you if NVDA 2019.3 will work with it on

> or not. For now, I've turned my UIA in Edge back on. Below though, is steps

> on how to turn it off.

> In the address bar, type,

> edge://flags

> Tab to search experimentation's.

> Type,

> UI Automation.

> Hit tab until you get to a combo box.

> enable it or disable it.

> Happy Browsing! In the meantime, I'm creating disability fiction. [Pledge to

> see early drafts and more.](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter)

>

 

 

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NVDA: Auto-Complete While Commenting On Facebook Using Google Chrome

Richard Wells
 

Hello: Using NVDA 2019.2.1 and Google Chrome latest, is there a way to
prevent or at least dismiss Facebook trying to fill in mention tags
while typing comments? I was typing the word "Christ" and it
auto-completed Christy McCellon which is one of my Facebook friends who
I was not trying to tag in my post. It is expanding the tag/mentions
thingy on Facebook and I just need to know how to collapse it and make
it stop trying to do that.

Re: Accessible password managers, again.

Mallard
 

Thanks for this recommendation.


My husband and son recommended this to me too, but they're sighted, so I was going to check it out for accessibility.


You've saved me one step...


thanksagain.

Ciao,

Ollie

On 16/01/2020 01:51, DJ wrote:
KeePass makes it extremely easy to synchronize your database between devices. In fact, if I update the database on my local computer, it is automatically updated on my iPhone and iPad. Likewise if I update on the iPhone or iPad, it is also updated on my computer. It is free and very secure.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@... <mailto:nimerjaber1@...>> wrote:

Hello,

While it's true that 1password has cloud options, and keypass is
local, 1password makes password syncing between devices much
easier. Moreover, 1password is secured with a key and now also
with 2FA, thus making the likelihood that my password gets
compromised that much more unlikely. In fact, I trust 1password
with its layers of security over just about any other cloud
provider which I might choose to use to store my database and have
it synced. And yes, I could choose to just keep it offline, but
that just isn't convenient. :-D

Tyler's right though, everyone should make those considerations
for themselves about what level of risk they are willing to
tolerate, and how they choose to perceive the risk.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:06 PM Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...
<mailto:tcwood12@...>> wrote:

Hi,

My go to will always be key pass.

Free, open source, ability to put your database **wherever**
you want, easy to run on any operating system of your choice
and lots of configuration options.

I will never touch 1 password – for one it’s paid – and for 2
having my passwords in the cloud when that cloud could be
breached at any moment much easier than my database on a thumb
drive, and has been before. Why have a password manager at all
in that case?

That is, of course, my opinion, and common sense is still
one’s best friend.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf
Of *Nimer Jaber
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2020 3:20 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible password managers, again.

Chrome should work, as should Firefox, but you want a
3rd-party, which is probably smart, give 1password a try.
Also, I played around with bitwarden, and it seemed to work
pretty well also.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:09 PM Hareth <hareth4m@...
<mailto:hareth4m@...>> wrote:

I was playing with
bitwarden
on windows10, desktop app an chrome and waterfox / firefox
extensions.
I start liking it
,.
Later tonight, going to try the android app and see what's
going on there.
For sure it worth the try.

On 1/15/20, René Linke <rene.linke@...
<mailto:rene.linke@...>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recommend to use KeePass Safe, it is completely based
on XML
> structures of import/export files.
> It has many extensions, and it works well with NVDA.
>
> René
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: Nvda and Total Commander

Mallard
 

Oh... One more note: you can access ftp's with it, and it works great for that porpose.

On 23/01/2020 12:20, john s wrote:
Ollie, what does this program do and how much does it cost?

At 05:23 AM 1/23/2020, Mallard, wrote:
Hello Quentin,


There are other issues, especially in the forms to set up ftp connections, but those can't be solved, apparently.


Ciao,

Ollie




On 22/01/2020 23:03, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jarek,

I'm not familiar with the program, but if NVDA is working everywhere except for announcing these two buttons, it sounds like the developers of Total Commander has simply forgotten to label them.  The easiest solution is to contact the developer of Total Commander and let them know and request they please label those two buttons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:20 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@... <mailto:Jarek.Krcmar@...>> wrote:

    Hello all,

    After starting Total Commander I select the mass re-naming in Total
    Commander, Nvda is mute by two buttons.

    I would like to know, what can I do for Nvda should be speaking.

    Nvda speaks everywhere, but by a two buttons it is mute.


    --     Jarek






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Re: Nvda and Total Commander

Mallard
 

Hello,


It's a two-panel file manager.


The programme is shareware; you can keep it for 30 days without registering, but it continues to fully function even afterthat - actually forever.


I don't know how much it would cost now. I bought so many years ago...


In order to activate the proramme when you open it, if it isn't registered, you simply have to press one of teh numbers on the keyboard - 1, 2 or 3  which is presented at random with each new launching ofthe programme.


You'll hear:


1 button

2 button

3 button


1 1


for example.


You'll have to type the number that doesn't say button after it, bu is repeated twice instead - in this example, 1 1 = type 1 on the keyboard...


After tat the programme will be fully functional.


It has loads of options, and a considerable number of plugins and extensions, but not many are accessible, so I don't use those.


The Android version is free.


hth, ciao,

Ollie

On 23/01/2020 12:20, john s wrote:
Ollie, what does this program do and how much does it cost?

At 05:23 AM 1/23/2020, Mallard, wrote:
Hello Quentin,


There are other issues, especially in the forms to set up ftp connections, but those can't be solved, apparently.


Ciao,

Ollie




On 22/01/2020 23:03, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jarek,

I'm not familiar with the program, but if NVDA is working everywhere except for announcing these two buttons, it sounds like the developers of Total Commander has simply forgotten to label them.  The easiest solution is to contact the developer of Total Commander and let them know and request they please label those two buttons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:20 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@... <mailto:Jarek.Krcmar@...>> wrote:

    Hello all,

    After starting Total Commander I select the mass re-naming in Total
    Commander, Nvda is mute by two buttons.

    I would like to know, what can I do for Nvda should be speaking.

    Nvda speaks everywhere, but by a two buttons it is mute.


    --     Jarek






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Re: Intro

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

welcome! too NVDA! you will love it hear. if u don't have NVDA on your
divice www.NVaccess.org enter on downlode or get the bata of nvda
today

On 1/23/20, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
Hi.
welcome, God bless you!

On 1/22/20, Luke Robinett <lukeblindgroups@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Longtime NVDA user here and just signed up for this group. I’ll pitch in
wherever I can and look forward to learning a lot from you all. Thank you
for having me.

Cheers from Portland Oregon,
Luke




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