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Re: is anyone working on making superantispyware accessable?

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I can use it since many years with NVDA using object and screen navigation . for me it is accessible.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Samstag, 25. Januar 2020 21:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is anyone working on making superantispyware accessable?

This program is completely inaccessable. I can't update it or scan or remove items found. If I either tab or use arrow keys it says nothing. This program is very good for removing tracking cookies but we can't use it. My friend tried it with jaws and narator and got the same results as I did with nvda. I am using 2019.3 bada 2 windows 1909 I know that this program has been a big problem with accessability for years now.

Brian Sackrider

Re: Audible and NVDA.

David Griffith
 

There are 3 options realistically I think.
The first involves installing the increasingly clunky Windows 7 legacy version of Audible Manager /Downloader. Actually I had to get Audible support to do this for me last year remotely as it was so problematic. It took even then about an hour to do and involved them patching in a separate downloader from the USA to make my installation work.
They agreed to do this when I explained I was blind and used the Victor reader Trek. Having done this though the system works, if clunkily fine with NVDA to download and transfer your books.
2.you can download a third party Audible manager program like Open Audible. The problem here is that for some strange reason the Open Audible setup has a setup sequence inaccessible to screenreaders. However it has been reported that after install it is completely accessible to NVDA and it downloads your purchased Audible Content successfully, though does not chapterise it.
3. Whilst I am unaware of any NVDA addons for the Windows 10 Audible app there are scripts available for Jaws if you are a Jaws user.
Doug Lees |Jaws Scripts
http://www.dlee.org/

David Griffith

3.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Temp
Sent: 25 January 2020 19:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Audible and NVDA.

Hi!

As far as I can remember, you can only transfer a book to the victor stream by downloading the audible download and audible manager.I was the person who asked if NVDA HAD an add on for using the audible app as this not accessible with NVDA.


Val.

On 25/01/2020 18:13, John Isige wrote:
Anybody have any tips? Since somebody asked about an addon, I was
wondering how usable it was. The Windows 10 app seems pretty useless.
I'm thinking of getting a Victor Stream so I'll need to know how to
register it and transfer books and all. It doesn't look like I can do
it with the Windows 10 app, unless there are tips on making it work I
don't know about. Do you just use the older program rather than the
Windows 10 store version? Some stuff does work in the Windows 10
version, I was able to get signed in, but there are lots of lists that
don't read and unlabelled buttons. So I mean, even if I just wanted to
listen to a book I already own on the PC, I have no idea how to do that.



Re: itunes

Brice Mijares
 

Yes, I didn't understand it either as I just updated an older version of ITunes. I just don't remember how I transferred a music folder because it's been about 7 or 8 years ago. thanks.

On 1/25/2020 12:39 PM, David Griffith wrote:
I am afraid I do not understand the previous post at all. iTunes is still very much alive and available Windows if not the Mac.
You can download iTunes from Apple from
https://support.apple.com/downloads/itunes
Once installed you can still sync your iTunes Music library with your iPhone via your lightning connector.
Having said that there are many more solutions to getting Music on your phone. These range from of course Apple Music, iTunes Match which I still use, and increasingly there are many other Cloud based solutions.
My personal favourite is to use CloudBeats CloudBeats to access Music on my DropBox an One Drive cloud storage.
For basic Music playing Open Drive is also an option with a simple iOS Music Player which will play all songs stored sequentially in a folder. It does little else but this may be all that you need.
If you provide more details as to what you want to do I can advise more.
David Griffith.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: 25 January 2020 19:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes
So, are you telling me there is no way to add your own music to your phone? Thanks.
On 1/25/2020 11:38 AM, Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo wrote:
itoons.com is no more no more itoons sorry

On 1/25/20, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...> wrote:
Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy.
thank you.




Re: itunes

Gene
 

ITunes for Apple has been discontinued.  ITunes for Windows still exists.
 
Gene

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Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes

itoons.com is no more no more itoons sorry

On 1/25/20, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...> wrote:
> Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy.
> thank you.
>
>
>
>


Re: itunes

David Griffith
 

 

I suppose we are in serious danger of getting off topic  but  as a possible alternative to using iTunes with NVDA I suppose it is marginally relevant. I would simply say that there is a review of the Android version on

https://appgrooves.com/app/cloudbeats-offline-and-cloud-music-player-by-cronosell-sa

I use the iOS version and it seems  completely accessible with Voiceover and would hope that the same is true for Android.

 

We had better close this now I guess or talk off list.

David Griffith

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 25 January 2020 20:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes

 

OOOOO nice. Will that cloud thing also use keybase? I doubt it as keybase is incrypted.

Take care

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to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 25 Jan 2020, at 12:39, David Griffith wrote:

I am afraid I do not understand the previous post at all. iTunes is still very much alive and available Windows if not the Mac.
You can download iTunes from Apple from
https://support.apple.com/downloads/itunes
Once installed you can still sync your iTunes Music library with your iPhone via your lightning connector.

Having said that there are many more solutions to getting Music on your phone. These range from of course Apple Music, iTunes Match which I still use, and increasingly there are many other Cloud based solutions.
My personal favourite is to use CloudBeats CloudBeats to access Music on my DropBox an One Drive cloud storage.
For basic Music playing Open Drive is also an option with a simple iOS Music Player which will play all songs stored sequentially in a folder. It does little else but this may be all that you need.

If you provide more details as to what you want to do I can advise more.
David Griffith.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: 25 January 2020 19:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes

So, are you telling me there is no way to add your own music to your phone? Thanks.

On 1/25/2020 11:38 AM, Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo wrote:

itoons.com is no more no more itoons sorry

On 1/25/20, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy.
thank you.

Re: itunes

Sarah k Alawami
 

OOOOO nice. Will that cloud thing also use keybase? I doubt it as keybase is incrypted.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 25 Jan 2020, at 12:39, David Griffith wrote:

I am afraid I do not understand the previous post at all. iTunes is still very much alive and available Windows if not the Mac.
You can download iTunes from Apple from
https://support.apple.com/downloads/itunes
Once installed you can still sync your iTunes Music library with your iPhone via your lightning connector.

Having said that there are many more solutions to getting Music on your phone. These range from of course Apple Music, iTunes Match which I still use, and increasingly there are many other Cloud based solutions.
My personal favourite is to use CloudBeats CloudBeats to access Music on my DropBox an One Drive cloud storage.
For basic Music playing Open Drive is also an option with a simple iOS Music Player which will play all songs stored sequentially in a folder. It does little else but this may be all that you need.

If you provide more details as to what you want to do I can advise more.
David Griffith.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: 25 January 2020 19:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes

So, are you telling me there is no way to add your own music to your phone? Thanks.

On 1/25/2020 11:38 AM, Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo wrote:

itoons.com is no more no more itoons sorry

On 1/25/20, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy.
thank you.

Re: is anyone working on making superantispyware accessable?

Sarah k Alawami
 

What response if any have you gotten from the developers, If nothing I say abandon the program as the devs don't appear to care, which is sad. If you did get a response, what did they say.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 25 Jan 2020, at 12:37, brian wrote:

This program is completely inaccessable.  I can't update it or scan or remove items found.  If I either tab or use arrow keys it says nothing.  This program is very good for removing tracking cookies but we can't use it.  My friend tried it with jaws and narator and got the same results as I did with nvda.  I am using 2019.3 bada 2 windows 1909 I know that this program has been a big problem with accessability for years now.

Brian Sackrider

Re: itunes

David Griffith
 

I am afraid I do not understand the previous post at all. iTunes is still very much alive and available Windows if not the Mac.
You can download iTunes from Apple from
https://support.apple.com/downloads/itunes
Once installed you can still sync your iTunes Music library with your iPhone via your lightning connector.

Having said that there are many more solutions to getting Music on your phone. These range from of course Apple Music, iTunes Match which I still use, and increasingly there are many other Cloud based solutions.
My personal favourite is to use CloudBeats CloudBeats to access Music on my DropBox an One Drive cloud storage.
For basic Music playing Open Drive is also an option with a simple iOS Music Player which will play all songs stored sequentially in a folder. It does little else but this may be all that you need.

If you provide more details as to what you want to do I can advise more.
David Griffith.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: 25 January 2020 19:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes

So, are you telling me there is no way to add your own music to your phone? Thanks.

On 1/25/2020 11:38 AM, Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo wrote:
itoons.com is no more no more itoons sorry

On 1/25/20, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...> wrote:
Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy.
thank you.




is anyone working on making superantispyware accessable?

brian
 

This program is completely inaccessable.  I can't update it or scan or remove items found.  If I either tab or use arrow keys it says nothing.  This program is very good for removing tracking cookies but we can't use it.  My friend tried it with jaws and narator and got the same results as I did with nvda.  I am using 2019.3 bada 2 windows 1909 I know that this program has been a big problem with accessability for years now.

Brian Sackrider

Re: itunes

Brice Mijares
 

So, are you telling me there is no way to add your own music to your phone? Thanks.

On 1/25/2020 11:38 AM, Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo wrote:
itoons.com is no more no more itoons sorry
On 1/25/20, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...> wrote:
Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy.
thank you.



Re: itunes

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

itoons.com is no more no more itoons sorry

On 1/25/20, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...> wrote:
Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy.
thank you.



Re: Audible and NVDA.

Val Temp <val.paul2005@...>
 

Hi!

As far as I can remember, you can only transfer a book to the victor stream by downloading the audible download and audible manager.I was the person who asked if NVDA HAD an add on for using the audible app as this not accessible with NVDA.


Val.

On 25/01/2020 18:13, John Isige wrote:
Anybody have any tips? Since somebody asked about an addon, I was wondering how usable it was. The Windows 10 app seems pretty useless. I'm thinking of getting a Victor Stream so I'll need to know how to register it and transfer books and all. It doesn't look like I can do it with the Windows 10 app, unless there are tips on making it work I don't know about. Do you just use the older program rather than the Windows 10 store version? Some stuff does work in the Windows 10 version, I was able to get signed in, but there are lots of lists that don't read and unlabelled buttons. So I mean, even if I just wanted to listen to a book I already own on the PC, I have no idea how to do that.


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Audible and NVDA.

John Isige
 

Anybody have any tips? Since somebody asked about an addon, I was wondering how usable it was. The Windows 10 app seems pretty useless. I'm thinking of getting a Victor Stream so I'll need to know how to register it and transfer books and all. It doesn't look like I can do it with the Windows 10 app, unless there are tips on making it work I don't know about. Do you just use the older program rather than the Windows 10 store version? Some stuff does work in the Windows 10 version, I was able to get signed in, but there are lots of lists that don't read and unlabelled buttons. So I mean, even if I just wanted to listen to a book I already own on the PC, I have no idea how to do that.

itunes

Brice Mijares
 

Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy. thank you.

Re: Indent nav addon question

 

Hi,
The version compatible with 2019.3 will be released shortly after 2019.3 stable version comes out.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 7:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Indent nav addon question

https://github.com/mltony/nvda-indent-nav/releases/download/v1.10v1.10/IndentNav.nvda-addon

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Samstag, 25. Januar 2020 14:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Indent nav addon question

Hello all,
When I try and install the indent nav add-on from the website NVDA won’t let me. It keeps telling me it is incompatible with 2019.3. Is there a 2019.3 compatible version of this add-on? I am running the latest beta of 2019.3 on windows10 version 1909

Thanks,
Greg Wocher

Re: Indent nav addon question

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Samstag, 25. Januar 2020 14:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Indent nav addon question

Hello all,
When I try and install the indent nav add-on from the website NVDA won’t let me. It keeps telling me it is incompatible with 2019.3. Is there a 2019.3 compatible version of this add-on? I am running the latest beta of 2019.3 on windows10 version 1909

Thanks,
Greg Wocher

Re: Indent nav addon question

Chris
 

From: Greg Wocher
Sent: 25 January 2020 13:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Indent nav addon question

 

Hello all,

When I try and install the indent nav add-on from the website NVDA won’t let me. It keeps telling me it is incompatible with 2019.3. Is there a 2019.3 compatible version of this add-on? I am running the latest beta of 2019.3 on windows10 version 1909

 

Thanks,

Greg Wocher

 

 

 

 

NVDA and audible

Val Temp <val.paul2005@...>
 

Hi!

I am new to this group, and this question may not be appropriate, in that case, rapped knuckles!

Does NVDA have an add on for the audible app?

Thanks.


Val.

Re: Too Much Serendipity. I'm Obviously Missing Something.

Gene
 

I should have said you can move out of where you are working, since you are still in the program interface.  In other words, you should be able to move away from where you are working by moving in the object hierarchy.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Too Much Serendipity. I'm Obviously Missing Something.

I expect you can move out of the interface without left clicking.  Do you know how to move by object and in the object hierarchy?  You should be able to leave any object without clicking by moving through the hierarchy.  I don't know if left clicking to move is causing the problem or part of it but it isn't the way you usually move somewhere else when working with object navigation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Too Much Serendipity. I'm Obviously Missing Something.

First, thank you.  I will try your suggestion.

After a night's sleep, I have figured out some of the
madness and it's definitely not right but somewhat manageable once
you know what it is.

I open a new window and start the program.  I then load
the work file I am building and then virtually move the mouse to
the tree top.  Next, it's expand the tree and visit one of the
eleven major headings, expanding as needed or just clicking with a
double-left-click  for those that have only one level.

If you type the Tab key, you always start off by getting that strum
sound which means nothing is going to happen.

If you haven't visited any of the major headings and gone
in yet, your first attempt to open one usually works with the
double-left-click opening the item.  The Tab key starts working
and you can do your work then a Single left-click puts you back
out on the street, so to speak.

Here's what I discovered however.  After one visits that
first field in whatever area one chose, you can not apparently
visit other major headings.  The double-left-clicks stop opening
things or they are the wrong things or you end up randomly
somewhere else depending on how confused things are.

The Tab key now either reopens somewhere you've been or
the point of reference is lost and you just find yourself at a
heading that isn't needed right now.

I haven't figured out how to clear everything without
exiting the program and reloading.  something is remembering just
enough stuff to be wrong after the first object visit.  That Tab
key will continue to not strum but launch you in to the walls
every time you press it until you shut the program down.

Note to Tesla.  Don't use this logic in your AI efforts.

I did try NVDA+enter.  It said "Activate" and nothing else new
happened but this is definitely an issue of wrong focus or
remembering irrelevant information.

As I say, I have never used a piece of software that is
so broken.

If it turns out there is a strategy to make it normal,
it's not intuitive by any means.

The only thing good I can say is that if you can access
the different major headers, the program behaves but it is like
pulling teeth to get it to just do what it should.
Martin


"John Isige" <gwynn@...> writes:
> If you really just double-clicked again, i.e. hit numpad slash twice
> quickly, that might be your problem. I'd just defensively use routing.
> It seems to work, and that way you're sure that you are where you think
> you are. BTW, this may or may not work, but if you're using the object
> cursor, NVDA-enter activates the object the cursor's on. That might let
> you get to some things quicker than hitting NVDA-numpad slash and numpad
> slash every time.