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Re: Reader mode in Chrome?
i disable javascript most of the times in my firefox.
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also, i could not open and read any pdf files with javascript disabled.
On 1/27/20, Oriana <o.neulinger@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the page being referred to? it could be that the site has some kind --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Martin McCormick
The radio programming data are kept in an
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off-system box. It's the radio. You connect a USB cable from the programming socket on the radio to the usb port and tell the programming software to "read" and voila, you've got a new configuration. You then type Alt+f and click "save". That's the standard Windows file utility and it saves to whatever you named it. I am kind of surprised you mentioned Linux because that is exactly what I had in mind if everything else fails to pan out. Most Linux distributions these days are accessible such as ubuntu and debian as well as talking arch, etc. The speech synthesizer is called speakup and used to also be the voice of nvda, for better or worse. The PC I tried to murder is new as of last February 9 so if a CDROM of Linux doesn't work, a bootable thumb drive just may. I wasn't going to talk about that because that is even further afield but that is also potentially dangerous and I don't advise anyone to try this as their first unix experience. FAT32 file systems mount properly under unix and if all you do is copy files, that will work. When you have a FAT32 system mounted in unix, the rules for case, file naming and other behaviors are pure FAT32, not unix. In unix, splat.exe, Splat.exe, SPLAT.exe SpLAT.EXE and any other combination of case refer to 5 different files. I believe in Windows, if you did that, they'd all overwrite each other so the last one is the only one that survives. Anyway, thanks to all and I'll take this to the win10 list when I get signed up. Thanks to all for your patience and for good discussion. I'm also going to order that Seagate backup server for my Mac and this PC. I just got careless and here we are. I will let everybody know how I recovered the files when that happens. Martin McCormick "Oriana" <o.neulinger@gmail.com> writes:
Martin,
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Re: Reader mode in Chrome?
Oriana
What is the page being referred to? it could be that the site has some kind of JavaScript interfering with the save protocol. Can your offline reading program read text from PDFs, because if so some kind of print-to-pdf function might be a useful workaround for this site specifically.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 9:37 PM zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote: i did not understand how can i save web page in html only when using
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Rosemarie Chavarria
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From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:19 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] can't play an internet station using waterfox
I got it to play using Chrome. It worked.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, everyone,
I found this new station called the grid FM and tried to play it using waterfox. I think there's something blocking the site but I don't know what it is. Any ideas?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Arlene
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: January 25, 2020 8:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] can't play an internet station using waterfox
Hi, everyone,
I found this new station called the grid FM and tried to play it using waterfox. I think there's something blocking the site but I don't know what it is. Any ideas?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
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Re: Station Playlist Studio Tutorials Using NVDA (Audio)
Roger Stewart
There is one several years old called
The Mushroom FM Guide To Internet Broadcasting which really helped
me get going. It is for JAWS, but all the concepts work just fine
with NVDA. There is also another one done by Joseph Lee
specifically for the NVDA add on but it is also many years out of
date. What is there is still fine, but there have been many
features added to the add on since this was done. These should do
a basic job of getting you going though.
Roger
On 1/26/2020 3:23 PM, VIAS, ARMANDO
wrote:
Hello guys,
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Re: Web Capture
David Goldfield
Rumola's extension did stop working with Firefox when Firefox switched to Quantum with version 57. For a while their link to the Chrome Web store may have been broken but it seems to be operational now. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 1/26/2020 8:05 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Web Capture
Gene
I thought Rumola had stopped operation.
Evidently, it is still in business.
Gene
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For Google Chrome and Chromium based browsers I use Rumola for solving captcha challenges. Signing up
with a Rumola account is not the most intuitive process but it's well worth it.
The service provides five free solves but the pricing for additional solves is
very reasonable, something like $.99 for fifty and $1.99 for 100. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 1/26/2020 6:28 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: nvda in safe mode
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 06:52 PM, Oriana wrote:
I apologize for contributing to the stray. I get focused on solving a problem and don't even realize it's not the right place for it.S'alright. It happens occasionally. I'm just eternally grateful when participants realize it's happened and seek out other venues. By the way, if you're a Linux geek who wants to do file recovery, even from a drive that was running under Windows, have a look at ddrescue. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Web Capture
David Goldfield
For Google Chrome and Chromium based browsers I use
Rumola for solving captcha challenges. Signing up with a Rumola account is not the most intuitive process but it's well worth it. The service provides five free solves but the pricing for additional solves is very reasonable, something like $.99 for fifty
and $1.99 for 100. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 1/26/2020 6:28 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Gene
I want to clarify and explain a few points.
This will probably be my last message in the thread because I've probably said
all I have to say on the subject.
First, when you talk about System restore, are you
talking about running a restore point or using previous versions? I'm not
advocating using previous versions first if you want to try to get back some
files that are there and some that aren't. In that case, you should use a
file recovery program and then use Previous versions if the file recovery
program doesn't recover some files that Previous versions has.
But considering how lax so many people are at
backing things up, it is important that they know about it.
Shadow copy can be valuable aside from restoring
files. Let's say someone backs up files by making disk images. You
can't look at individual files in a disk image. If the person wants to
look at a previous version of something such as a document, but she has saved
newer copies and no longer has the older version in her current files, the
person can look at it using previous versions. You can open the file
from current versions without restoring it. So you can easily compare the
two versions. You can have both opened if you wish.
Shadow copy shouldn't be used as a way to avoid
backing things up. it isn't a backup. But it is one more feature
that may be useful and that people should know about, though most people
don't.
Gene
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Gene,
This is definitely a ymmv situation. I've attempted to use system
restore to recover files before, as you keep advising, and not only did it not
work, it wrote over the data so i was unable to use any other non-hardware-based
recovery option - the box was not checked by default on that PC. If you know
shadow copies exist, then they might work for you, but if there is any
uncertainty, do not attempt system restore or any method that requires downloads
or hard drive writes until backup is complete. That is my personal
experience.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 5:56 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Kwork
And Waterfox isn't patching as quickly as it used to so I've mostly moved on to more Chromium based browsers such as the new Microsoft Edge, Brave, and Google Chrome itself. Even Firefox is working better now on modern streams than Waterfox. Disney Plus and Netflix will no longer stream for me using Waterfox, but will provide errors instead. Travis
On 1/26/2020 12:25 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Oriana
I apologize for contributing to the stray. I get focused on solving a problem and don't even realize it's not the right place for it. I'll stop.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 6:20 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: Martin,
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Oriana
Martin, Unfortunately you will most likely have to use "forensic" methods of file recovery in order to recover the radio programming data. Similar to unix, using the command line to delete files in Windows bypasses the recycle bin. I don't think there's a security overwrite, however, unless you use a third-party program. The good news is that a live-boot forensic recovery program (or data recovery program as we've been referring to it) should also be able to restore the missing system files, although if that fails you will need to prepare to reinstall Windows. File recovery software will work regardless of which drive the files are in, and it will recover whatever has not been overwritten, exactly the way it was at deletion, not at some point in the past during the last backup point. If there was any kind of "security overwrite", only a magnetic hard drive scanner would be able to recover the files, and those are too expensive for mainstream use - my original recommendation for a certified PC repair expert becomes the only option for recovery at that point, and even then, not every PC repair place will have such a device. The manufacturer would be another good point of reference, possibly able to recommend a third party repair even if the PC is not under warranty. For programs that can be used to recover the files: I've mentioned CCleaner's Recuva, but that's a windows program and I'm uncertain as to how to even live boot into a windows environment, regardless of accessibility. As you already have familiarity with unix, perhaps building a rescue drive using something like Vinux, Sonar, or Talking Arch flavors of Linux, which are optimized for screen-reading and braille displays, would be a good starting point for recovery, as you could then use any Linux industry standard file recovery programs, which are, to my understanding, more powerful than windows-based ones anyway.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 6:04 PM Martin McCormick <martin.m@...> wrote: What I have read so far only mentions a special form of
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Oriana
Gene, This is definitely a ymmv situation. I've attempted to use system restore to recover files before, as you keep advising, and not only did it not work, it wrote over the data so i was unable to use any other non-hardware-based recovery option - the box was not checked by default on that PC. If you know shadow copies exist, then they might work for you, but if there is any uncertainty, do not attempt system restore or any method that requires downloads or hard drive writes until backup is complete. That is my personal experience.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 5:56 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Martin,
Thanks much for your recognition that this topic has now strayed far, far away from NVDA. Presuming you are using Windows 10, you could ask on the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users group:
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Martin McCormick
What I have read so far only mentions a special form of
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del that is a security-oriented form which apparently destroys the file and any file deleted that way is pretty much a goner but whether or not it is done one at a time or by batch file is never mentioned. I really hope not to have to use Safe Mode. The system continued to run after my accident though I got some messages from browsers that indicated I zapped data files in my home directory which need to be brought back. I looked at further messages as I wrote this one and what everybody is saying is valid but when files are deleted, they are first moved to Recycle where they sit until either someone or process empties the bin at which point, you really do make the job of recovery much more difficult and dangerous or if you use the Recycle Bin, the file just gets moved back from where it came. Fortunately, these are user files, not system files. Let 's make sure I am accessing the recycle bin correctly. It's a Tree View when you hit Enter on Recycle Bin. In a perfect world, there would be a Recovery engine that would say "Where are the files to be recovered?" You might even be given buttons that say "backup media, Recycle Bin" and you pick 1 and probably should be given a recovery criteria in which you can tell it everything that was deleted 24 or less hours ago. What I can't seem to find anywhere is actual file names or anyway to copy them anywhere or do anything else for that matter. All the articles say how easy this is which makes me think that I'm looking in the wrong place or the absence of some of those missing files is confusing the restore process. Is there a mailing list similar to this one only about Windows, specifically? I appreciate the knowledge and answers so far, but NVDA is only tangentially related to this problem. As a unix command-line junky for 30 years, deleting files does create a situation in which forensic methods are needed to bring them back and the only unix-based platform I know of that also has a trash bin does initially move deleted files to it until you empty the bin and that's pretty much that. That platform is the Mac. If your deleted file is still in the bin, you can copy it out but when it's gone from there, it isn't worth the risk and possible trouble. Several articles I found on line say that Windows7 to 10 to first move deleted files to the bin. "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com> writes:
I just did a little looking online. I found information relating to
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Re: NVDA and audible
Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
Val, in my opinion, this is definitely an appropriate question and a good one. As far as I know, there's no add-on for the Audible app, but the Audible website works pretty well with NVDA. I hope that answers your question.
-- Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com abbietaylor945@...
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Gene
Shadow copy isn't a backup, but it is a part of
system restore and it does allow recovery of deleted files or access to earlier
versions, if desired. I can use Shadow Copy to open a file that is an
earlier version without restoring it. it can be opened directly from where
it is in Shadow Copy.
I am not advocating using it instead of a
backup. But it is a very useful feature. I once deleted something
the day after I recorded it because I didn't think I needed it any longer.
I found that I had been wrong and I was able to recover it with Shadow Copy
because, fortunately, System Restore had made a restore point while it was on
the disk. I hadn't backed it up because I erroneously thought I had
already edited it and saved and backed up the edited version.
Also, there may be times when you want to open an
earlier version of something without restoring it from a backup. You may
want to compare versions.
Gene
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One should be taking full system image backups using the third-party tool of one's choosing, which is what Microsoft recommends, as well as parallel separate user data backups, which can be using that same third-party tool or Microsoft's own File History if running Windows 8.1 or 10. System Protection (of which System Restore is a part) has never been intended as a full-recovery utility (which would include user data) and is notoriously flaky. It's focus is allowing the system to be rolled back in the event that, for instance, a bad new driver were installed that breaks something. It rolls back the state of the system registry and certain underlying support folders in the Windows hierarchy. It, as Jackie has already noted, has never, ever been involved in user data backup or recovery. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: nvda in safe mode
Oriana
Brian, I agree: "at least some" file recovery using "non-damaging" live-boot data recovery software onto removable media is the safest option in OPs case, and third-party backups onto dedicated removable media is always the best option in the long-term. And after recovering most of the 60GB of radio programming data, a "damaging" method such as system restore might help resolve/recreate the user path. My reference post regarding VSS was to clarify Gene's proposal for same-hard-drive recovery, which might have uses between full backups or if no removable media is available. As a standard feature, it seems that VSS is used primarily for server-style or networked windows systems, which i am very unfamiliar with, but these systems typically cannot be taken offline for weekly backups, they typically contain redundant hard drives in order to prevent complete loss due to hardware failure, and they often have dedicated and experienced caretakers who can transfer the shadow copies to removable media, as needed. It doesn't seem well-implemented for home users.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 5:39 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: To be clear, I am not proposing using volume shadow copies.
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