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Re: Web Capture

 

To be honest the latest version of google recapcha works well.

It seems to take bits from speeches and computer conferences and you repeat spaciffic words.

Its been quite stable to.

There are a few sites being stupid, but not as many now days.

The volume of sites needing recaptcha has dropped probably because of 2step authentication.

On 26/01/2020 6:32 pm, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Something that is NVDA friendly and will read those pesky things which you are expected to enter as a response on a webpage to prove you are a genuine person and not some form of robot.
There was once something called Rumola or some such.
One of the major probs is that the capture graphic or whatever it is only inhabits the screen for a short time.
Any ideas?
Andrea


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Re: itunes

 

Itunes on apple has been split into its various categories so music is an app, books is an app, tv is an app, etc at least that is what I read.

There is still an itunes desktop but its basically the universal app as is icloud.



On 26/01/2020 9:55 am, Gene wrote:
ITunes for Apple has been discontinued.  ITunes for Windows still exists.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes

itoons.com is no more no more itoons sorry

On 1/25/20, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@...> wrote:
> Does a itunes tutorial using NVDA exist? If so, I'd appreciate a copy.
> thank you.
>
>
>
>



Re: cd i can not play a cd!

 

To be honest I was going to answer this message, and got as far as typing in all my solutions.

Autoplay was one issue.

Then codecs but then windows would be fine with that usually.

Then I thought it could be a mangled windows at which point I simply stopped and discarded my message because I didn't know enough based on the information I had.

The only actual scenario came while upgrading one of the workstations here with windows and doing a reinstall on the request of the user.

One of the older bits of software caused windows to corrupt itself and I had to reset the pc to get it all working.

It happened 5 times.

I was able to get round that situation by physically destroying/throwing away 5 outdated software packages, however I was upgrading the system, had been asked to reformat, and take inventory of software.

We were throwing out a lot of older software and I had programs to replace the solution with.

The software was and had been on the cards for recycling for the last 2 years due to its age.

I realise not everyone is that lucky.



On 25/01/2020 12:52 pm, Arlene wrote:

I’ll say no more. Yes when you do play cds on windows ten. You have to go to auto play.  Its in control panel as it always is.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: January 24, 2020 10:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] cd i can not play a cd!

 

This should be in the chat group.  So, for respect for list rules, I won't reply further here.

 

You may be referring to autoplay, where CDs play automatically when you insert them.

I'd have to check to see how that is done.  I also don't know if the interface is the same for Windows 10 as for Windows 7.

But if you go to the CD drive in this computer or file explorer, then just press enter on the drive, an audio CD will play.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:35 PM

Subject: [nvda] cd i can not play a cd!

 

my see dees will not play how? do I get my c d's to play do I go
2controle pannal then settings?

 


Re: Nvda start up question

Hugin
 


Thanks. I'll try that if it does it again, I am saving this email and thank you. After you mentioned not having so many programs starting up at once, something told e to go look and stupid cortana started itself back up again (I had disabled it) and bing is on though I can't find the stupid thing and I'm looking up now how to find where windows hid it so I can make it stop as well as I use chrome. I get that this has nothing to do with nvda, but I am replying to my original nvda issue to say you may have been right about the too much at start up due to the fact things wer running that I did not have on or intend to be running.My windows 10 likes to undo things I do. *sighs* So missing 7. Anyway, again I'll do this if after those go away again it happens again and thanks so much.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: Nvda start up question

Quentin Christensen
 

In that case it might just be Windows being funny with resources on startup.  If you set your log to debug and restart the PC to recreate the issue I'm happy to have a look at your log.  See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on the log and how to access it.  

Feel free to send to me at info@....

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 3:32 PM Hugin <blaisegellert@...> wrote:
Actually I do have an ssd, and the computer is new so plenty fast and has a lot of memory, not a lot of programs starting up at all and recently did all updates for drivers etc. and tested all soft war with del's program.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Nvda start up question

Hugin
 


Actually I do have an ssd, and the computer is new so plenty fast and has a lot of memory, not a lot of programs starting up at all and recently did all updates for drivers etc. and tested all soft war with del's program.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: Nvda start up question

Quentin Christensen
 

When the computer starts up, it is quite busy and there is a high load on RAM, CPU and storage.  It sounds like it is loading NVDA and then trying to do other things which are causing problems - if it all sorts itself out after a few seconds, it's probably not a serious issue aside from the sound being annoying.  The main things you could do to address it (short of buying whole faster PC) would be:

- If you are using a traditional HDD Hard Drive, switch to an SSD which can be up to ten times faster.
- Add more RAM to your PC
- Reduce the number of programs running at startup
- Ensure your drivers for your system, particularly audio and video drivers, are up to date.

WIth the last two options obviously being the cheapest.
Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:59 PM Hugin <blaisegellert@...> wrote:
I have nvda on a new laptop and a few times upon start up nvda has stuttered and or paused while the computer makes a sort of buzzing sound.Only at start up and not until nvda is starting up so has anyone else had this and is it some setting I need to fix or what? It has only gotten hung once when reading something there it seemed stuck but otherwise at start up.
 
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi David, sure.  But I need to know where you are in the world because my time zone might be significantly different from yours, so I might have to tweak my time to suit yours.  Let me kno asap. Cheers!

On 1/28/2020 8:43 PM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi, how are you Jaffar, Thank you for the information that you provided. I was wondering if it is possible for us to do a remote session because I want to make sure that i'm using the proper keystrokes. P.S. are there other buttons that we don't know about that we should have access to. Thankk you for any information that you might have. I can be reached at dingram269@.... Thank you.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Ingram <dingram269@...>
Sent: Jan 28, 2020 1:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.




-----Original Message-----
From: Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Sent: Jan 27, 2020 9:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.

Hi David.  I have Native Access Currenly opened as I write this email.
Assuming you are on a Desktop setup, Use NVDA or Numpad Insert+Numpad6
to navigate forward or Numpad Insert+Numpad4 to navigate backwards to
get to the object you want.  Press Numpad Insert+ numpad8 to open up the
object you desire to see the elements within that object.  All buttons
can then be manipulated using Numpad insert+Numpad Enter.  Texts can be
accessed with Numpad Insert+ Numpad 1 or 3, and characters wit Numpad 1
or 3 without the Insert key.  For those who want to be in the know,
native Access is a solution to install plugins and applications from
Native instruments which deals with computer Music software and the
rather accessible Komplete Kontrl Midi Controller. Cheers!

On 1/27/2020 8:21 PM, David Ingram wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
Sent: Jan 27, 2020 4:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.

hi.
i did not heard of this program until now.
is it accessible with screen readers?
if it be accessible, nvda and any other screen reader should support it.

On 1/27/20, David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:
The problems that i'm having when using nvda together with nativeaccess are
the following: 1. I'm unable to get any response when I use the keystroke
b. Second, when I use the tab key nothing happens. Third when I use the
insert+r command inorder to do a scan I don't get anything after the scan
command. I'm using the latest version of windows 10 The newer version of
nvda has not been released yet. Not to mention, that i'm unable to find the
update all button when using nvda together with nativeaccess. I've also
tried to activate the different buttons using the insert+2 on the numpad but
nothing happens. Also I thaught that if I use insert+enter on the numpad
that would activate the buttons but nothing happens. Is there something
else that I could be missing in terms of these commands. I can be reached
at dingram269@.... I've also downloaded the remote access tool
for nvda just in case someone wanted to remote into my computer to take a
look at how nvda works together with nativeaccess. I'm trying to see if
nvaccess.org would be able to assist in helping to correctany problems that
i'm having when I use nvda together with nativeaccess. Thank you for any
information that you might have as to how I can solve these problems.



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Hi, how are you? If you play keyboards and are interested in recording your own music You can use nvda together with a program called reaper. I'm part of a growing listrwp which stands for reapers without peepers. Also you can go to native-instruments.com create an account then you'll be able to download nativeaccess. This program nativeaccess allows you the ability to download free as well as paid instruments that you can use with reaper in order to create music. I hope that this helps.


Hi, Jaffar, how are you? thank you for one thing that you clarified. I'd like to ask if you have the nvda remote tool as well? The reason why I ask is because I want to confirm some of the problems that I've been having as it relates to using nvda together with nativeaccess. I'm not sure whether I did something right when it comes to using the scan command by using insert+r but the thing is after doing that command I don't hear any results. P.S. I also wanted to see if Nvaccess.org would not only support nvda used together with nativeaccess but I'd like for them to help correct any information and properly document the keystrokes used when using nvda together with nativeaccess. I want to thank you. P.S. there was also a problem when I tried to see if update all was visible but i'm not sure whether you found that button or did you?



Re: I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.

Jaffar Sidek
 

Have you made your purchase of Komplete 12?

On 1/28/2020 3:29 PM, David Ingram wrote:
P.S. I also want to upgrade from komplete start to komplete 12 but i'm not sure how this is do done. I can't find anyinformation about this in the support documentation from native-instruments. What should i do?

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Jan 28, 2020 1:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.

You are bottom posting.  When you bottom post, many people may believe you sent a message with no new content or they may simply not bother finding your message below all the others. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.




-----Original Message-----
>From: Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
>Sent: Jan 27, 2020 9:28 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.
>
>Hi David.  I have Native Access Currenly opened as I write this email. 
>Assuming you are on a Desktop setup, Use NVDA or Numpad Insert+Numpad6
>to navigate forward or Numpad Insert+Numpad4 to navigate backwards to
>get to the object you want.  Press Numpad Insert+ numpad8 to open up the
>object you desire to see the elements within that object.  All buttons
>can then be manipulated using Numpad insert+Numpad Enter.  Texts can be
>accessed with Numpad Insert+ Numpad 1 or 3, and characters wit Numpad 1
>or 3 without the Insert key.  For those who want to be in the know,
>native Access is a solution to install plugins and applications from
>Native instruments which deals with computer Music software and the
>rather accessible Komplete Kontrl Midi Controller. Cheers!
>
>On 1/27/2020 8:21 PM, David Ingram wrote:
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>>> Sent: Jan 27, 2020 4:01 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm having problems when i use nvda together with nativeaccess.
>>>
>>> hi.
>>> i did not heard of this program until now.
>>> is it accessible with screen readers?
>>> if it be accessible, nvda and any other screen reader should support it.
>>>
>>> On 1/27/20, David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:
>>>> The problems that i'm having when using nvda together with nativeaccess are
>>>> the following: 1.  I'm unable to get any response when I use the keystroke
>>>> b.  Second, when I use the tab key nothing happens.  Third when I use the
>>>> insert+r command inorder to do a scan I don't get anything after the scan
>>>> command.  I'm using the latest version of windows 10 The newer version of
>>>> nvda has not been released yet.  Not to mention, that i'm unable to find the
>>>> update all button when using nvda together with nativeaccess.  I've also
>>>> tried to activate the different buttons using the insert+2 on the numpad but
>>>> nothing happens.  Also I thaught that if I use insert+enter on the numpad
>>>> that would activate the buttons but nothing happens.  Is there something
>>>> else that I could be missing in terms of these commands.  I can be reached
>>>> at dingram269@....  I've also downloaded the remote access tool
>>>> for nvda just in case someone wanted to remote into my computer to take a
>>>> look at how nvda works together with nativeaccess.  I'm trying to see if
>>>> nvaccess.org would be able to assist in helping to correctany problems that
>>>> i'm having when I use nvda together with nativeaccess.  Thank you for any
>>>> information that you might have as to how I can solve these problems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> By God,
>>> were I given all the seven heavens
>>> with all they contain
>>> in order that
>>> I may disobey God
>>> by depriving an ant
>> >from the husk of a grain of barley,
>>> I would not do it.
>>> imam ali
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hi, how are you?  If you play keyboards and are interested in recording your own music You can use nvda together with a program called reaper.  I'm part of a growing listrwp which stands for reapers without peepers.  Also you can go to native-instruments.com create an account then you'll be able to download nativeaccess.  This program nativeaccess allows you the ability to download free as well as paid instruments that you can use with reaper in order to create music.  I hope that this helps.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Hi, Jaffar, how are you? thank you for one thing that you clarified.  I'd like to ask if you have the nvda remote tool as well?  The reason why I ask is because I want to confirm some of the problems that I've been having as it relates to using nvda together with nativeaccess.  I'm not sure whether I did something right when it comes to using the scan command by using insert+r but the thing is after doing that command I don't hear any results.  P.S.  I also wanted to see if Nvaccess.org would not only support nvda used together with nativeaccess but I'd like for them to help correct any information and properly document the keystrokes used when using nvda together with nativeaccess.  I want to thank you.  P.S. there was also a problem when I tried to see if update all was visible but i'm not sure whether you found that button or did you?



Nvda start up question

Hugin
 

I have nvda on a new laptop and a few times upon start up nvda has stuttered and or paused while the computer makes a sort of buzzing sound.Only at start up and not until nvda is starting up so has anyone else had this and is it some setting I need to fix or what? It has only gotten hung once when reading something there it seemed stuck but otherwise at start up.
 
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: windows 10 disk clean up

David Ingram
 



-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Jan 28, 2020 1:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 disk clean up

Well that is one way to do it.
The issue is it searches for and clears everything on all drives and that may not be necessary unless your system and your accounts are on different drives.

I have a win7 system like this.

However, the easiest way to handle that is to.

1.  type disk in search.

right click disk cleanup and run as admin.

If you have 2 drives, you may find the second drive may not have that much on it.

On the os drive, the most important things that will take space are.

1.  windows update and device drivers especially for display drivers you have installed.

My amd has frequent updates for its drivers.

2.  windows installations.

Only do that if you are happy with your build though and want to kill them.

They will kill themselves within a 10 day period.

At least that was what it was when I last looked into that.

Saying that, if you have one of those dinkey tablets with little space, you will probably want to immediately delete that so you can put everything back.

I honestly don't know how people can use 16-32-64gb windows tablets.

a 128gb is minimal in my book but people do use them somehow and I have no idea how.



On 23/01/2020 6:36 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Why not do cleanmgr /sageset / then cleanmgr /sagerun:1 as I do this all thet iem for my disk clean up. You can see many many hidden items that real disk clean up does not show you, and it sitll will not hurt your system. You do these from the run dialogue by the way.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 21 Jan 2020, at 19:10, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

press the windows key and when the search box comes up type in disk it will come up with a result called disk cleanup/ Press the enter key on it. It will then come to another screen there you can pick your drive to do it to it is a combo box it will usually default to c: drive. You can use the down arrow key to go to another if you want to. What ever one you pick say c: drive you will then need to tab to ok button then press the enter key. It will then calculate how much can be cleaned up.

It will give you a list of areas it can clean up and say those areas. There is a check box next to each one. You can arrow down the list and use the space bar to check the box.

Down towards the bottom of the list you will then need to tab as the down arrow key will not take you any further.. If you tab once it will land on a system files button I think it was called. Press the enter key and repeate the process like before except this for will be for system files. Then at the bottom of the list you have selected all the ones you want removed you will then need to tab to the ok button then press the enter key.

It will then give you a message just say yes to it and then it will clean it up all for you.

Hope it helps.

Do not worry it will not remove any files only the ones you picked not needed.

Gene nz

On 22/01/2020 3:35 pm, anthony borg wrote:

Hi folks,

Does anyone can explain to me how to use the windows 10 disk clean up
please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: windows 10 disk clean up

 

Well that is one way to do it.
The issue is it searches for and clears everything on all drives and that may not be necessary unless your system and your accounts are on different drives.

I have a win7 system like this.

However, the easiest way to handle that is to.

1.  type disk in search.

right click disk cleanup and run as admin.

If you have 2 drives, you may find the second drive may not have that much on it.

On the os drive, the most important things that will take space are.

1.  windows update and device drivers especially for display drivers you have installed.

My amd has frequent updates for its drivers.

2.  windows installations.

Only do that if you are happy with your build though and want to kill them.

They will kill themselves within a 10 day period.

At least that was what it was when I last looked into that.

Saying that, if you have one of those dinkey tablets with little space, you will probably want to immediately delete that so you can put everything back.

I honestly don't know how people can use 16-32-64gb windows tablets.

a 128gb is minimal in my book but people do use them somehow and I have no idea how.



On 23/01/2020 6:36 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Why not do cleanmgr /sageset / then cleanmgr /sagerun:1 as I do this all thet iem for my disk clean up. You can see many many hidden items that real disk clean up does not show you, and it sitll will not hurt your system. You do these from the run dialogue by the way.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 21 Jan 2020, at 19:10, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

press the windows key and when the search box comes up type in disk it will come up with a result called disk cleanup/ Press the enter key on it. It will then come to another screen there you can pick your drive to do it to it is a combo box it will usually default to c: drive. You can use the down arrow key to go to another if you want to. What ever one you pick say c: drive you will then need to tab to ok button then press the enter key. It will then calculate how much can be cleaned up.

It will give you a list of areas it can clean up and say those areas. There is a check box next to each one. You can arrow down the list and use the space bar to check the box.

Down towards the bottom of the list you will then need to tab as the down arrow key will not take you any further.. If you tab once it will land on a system files button I think it was called. Press the enter key and repeate the process like before except this for will be for system files. Then at the bottom of the list you have selected all the ones you want removed you will then need to tab to the ok button then press the enter key.

It will then give you a message just say yes to it and then it will clean it up all for you.

Hope it helps.

Do not worry it will not remove any files only the ones you picked not needed.

Gene nz

On 22/01/2020 3:35 pm, anthony borg wrote:

Hi folks,

Does anyone can explain to me how to use the windows 10 disk clean up
please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I think in the beta this might do it it was a script to do it but may not either.


• Running nvda.exe now defaults to replacing an already running copy of NVDA. The -r|--replace command line parameter is still accepted, but ignored. (#8320)


Usually I just do it through the browser not the run dialogue box for web addresses etc


Gene nz


On 29/01/2020 7:45 am, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

 

Just to summarize, so everyone is on point:

 

As I originally stated, both in the subject line and original post, entering www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda into the run dialog box, certainly using Win+R, causes NVDA to restart as if I had just entered nvdaa instead. It ignores everything else except nvdaa. This is the only application where this happens. Appending a second a after nvdaa causes the default browser to launch, showing the URL as www.github.com/nvaccess/nvdaa. So, the only case where it ignores the entire address is when nvdaa is entered following the / (slash), but anything else appended to nvdaa causes the entire entry to be recognized properly, with the URL obviously being incorrect then.

 

It doesn’t matter which browser is the default one. Just for the sake of humor, I did this using Microsoft edge Beta, Microsoft Edge, Google Crome, Mozilla Firefox and even Internet Explorer as default browsers. Nothing visually happens on screen. You’re just bounced back to the desktop, the dialog closes, and NVDA restarts. It also does not matter whether NVDA is already running or not when doing this. It turns out that NVDA launches regardless, even if you exit the application, right click the start button, click “Run”, then enter in www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda.

 

Also, it doesn’t have to be that particular addressor any address at all. As long as it ends with /nvdaa, it does this. Apparently, even if it is thisissuperweird/nvdaa or stopdoingthis/nvda.

 

Maybe that last one is a clue to somebody. If it isn’t, I’ll probably figure it out tomorrow when I get back to work and have multiple configurations to test and modify that isn’t my own. I reiterate that this only happens with NVDA, and no other application so far. Windows rightly doesn’t recognize thisissuperweird followed by anything else after a  (slash), except if it is nvdaa, no matter what it is I enter before it.

 

I don’t think I can make that any clearer or long-winded.

 

Nicolai

 

 

 

Sendt fra Mail til Windows 10

 

Fra: Sarah k Alawami
Sendt: 28. januar 2020 18:56
Til: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

No, as clearly stated, he is typing the whole address. Nvda appears to restart. Have you tired this with edge, or firefox? I believe you said you did this with chrome. Can you try whit with the control l, then typing in that address you gave? Also can you screen record this behavior so we may take a look at it? You can upload it to keybase or something so those of us with sight can look.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 28 Jan 2020, at 9:54, Gene wrote:

We need to be clear about what you are doing.  Are you talking about the run dialog, Windows key being held and r or the start menu search, press the windows key, then type something.  None of the behavior you are describing matches the run dialog.  Typing NVDA should produce an error message because you haven't typed the path to the folder containing the executable first.  Typing NVDAA should also present an error message.  Using the start menu may produce the results you are describing if you type something and the first result is something you want and you press enter on it. 

 

As I said, you are running the NVDA executable, which I strongly suspect you are running from the start menu search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

You are running the NVDA exe file again.  NVDA is restarting.  NVDAA isn't running the exe file, though I don't seee why the browser would open, that isn't any sort of web site address.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Hello Brian,

 

I have used both Firefox and Google Chrome for this. At first I thought it was getting cut off as well, since NVDA will restart if you only type nvda into the run dialog, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart, but goes on to open the browser with the corresponding webpage address. If I enter nvda instead, NVDA just restarts and nothing else happens. It only happens with NVDA, and no other applications that can be launched from the run dialog box.

 

So this is kind of bizarre. I’m not really sure why this would occur at all. I’ve never had trouble actually doing this before.

 

Nicolai

 

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Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Nicolai,

          What web browser is set as your default?   It would be worth testing to see if this might somehow be linked to the browser being used, as odd as that might seem.

           The more you can narrow this down to a specific set of circumstances the better.

           I can imagine NVDA shutting down if the only thing being seen in the run dialog were to be NVDA.  Are you absolutely, positively certain that the entire URL was there?

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Re: NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 02:02 PM, Gene wrote:
I find it more convenient to work directly in the browser than to use the run dialog to open web pages.
You and me both.  The only time I've ever tried this via the run dialog was for testing.
 
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Re: NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

Rui Fontes
 

Curiously, if you use:

https://www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda

it works properly...

Without the "https://" NVDA restarts, and my default browser is Chrome...


Rui Fontes


Às 18:45 de 28/01/2020, Nicolai Svendsen escreveu:

Hi,

 

Just to summarize, so everyone is on point:

 

As I originally stated, both in the subject line and original post, entering www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda into the run dialog box, certainly using Win+R, causes NVDA to restart as if I had just entered nvdaa instead. It ignores everything else except nvdaa. This is the only application where this happens. Appending a second a after nvdaa causes the default browser to launch, showing the URL as www.github.com/nvaccess/nvdaa. So, the only case where it ignores the entire address is when nvdaa is entered following the / (slash), but anything else appended to nvdaa causes the entire entry to be recognized properly, with the URL obviously being incorrect then.

 

It doesn’t matter which browser is the default one. Just for the sake of humor, I did this using Microsoft edge Beta, Microsoft Edge, Google Crome, Mozilla Firefox and even Internet Explorer as default browsers. Nothing visually happens on screen. You’re just bounced back to the desktop, the dialog closes, and NVDA restarts. It also does not matter whether NVDA is already running or not when doing this. It turns out that NVDA launches regardless, even if you exit the application, right click the start button, click “Run”, then enter in www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda.

 

Also, it doesn’t have to be that particular addressor any address at all. As long as it ends with /nvdaa, it does this. Apparently, even if it is thisissuperweird/nvdaa or stopdoingthis/nvda.

 

Maybe that last one is a clue to somebody. If it isn’t, I’ll probably figure it out tomorrow when I get back to work and have multiple configurations to test and modify that isn’t my own. I reiterate that this only happens with NVDA, and no other application so far. Windows rightly doesn’t recognize thisissuperweird followed by anything else after a  (slash), except if it is nvdaa, no matter what it is I enter before it.

 

I don’t think I can make that any clearer or long-winded.

 

Nicolai

 

 

 

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Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

No, as clearly stated, he is typing the whole address. Nvda appears to restart. Have you tired this with edge, or firefox? I believe you said you did this with chrome. Can you try whit with the control l, then typing in that address you gave? Also can you screen record this behavior so we may take a look at it? You can upload it to keybase or something so those of us with sight can look.

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On 28 Jan 2020, at 9:54, Gene wrote:

We need to be clear about what you are doing.  Are you talking about the run dialog, Windows key being held and r or the start menu search, press the windows key, then type something.  None of the behavior you are describing matches the run dialog.  Typing NVDA should produce an error message because you haven't typed the path to the folder containing the executable first.  Typing NVDAA should also present an error message.  Using the start menu may produce the results you are describing if you type something and the first result is something you want and you press enter on it. 

 

As I said, you are running the NVDA executable, which I strongly suspect you are running from the start menu search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

You are running the NVDA exe file again.  NVDA is restarting.  NVDAA isn't running the exe file, though I don't seee why the browser would open, that isn't any sort of web site address.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Hello Brian,

 

I have used both Firefox and Google Chrome for this. At first I thought it was getting cut off as well, since NVDA will restart if you only type nvda into the run dialog, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart, but goes on to open the browser with the corresponding webpage address. If I enter nvda instead, NVDA just restarts and nothing else happens. It only happens with NVDA, and no other applications that can be launched from the run dialog box.

 

So this is kind of bizarre. I’m not really sure why this would occur at all. I’ve never had trouble actually doing this before.

 

Nicolai

 

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Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Nicolai,

          What web browser is set as your default?   It would be worth testing to see if this might somehow be linked to the browser being used, as odd as that might seem.

           The more you can narrow this down to a specific set of circumstances the better.

           I can imagine NVDA shutting down if the only thing being seen in the run dialog were to be NVDA.  Are you absolutely, positively certain that the entire URL was there?

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Re: NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If I remember right it might be in this release when you type nvda into the run dialogue it will re start nvda if it is the installer version.


Maybe because when you typed in the web address with nvda in it it restarted nvda thinking you wanted to restart it?


Gene nz


On 29/01/2020 7:45 am, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

 

Just to summarize, so everyone is on point:

 

As I originally stated, both in the subject line and original post, entering www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda into the run dialog box, certainly using Win+R, causes NVDA to restart as if I had just entered nvdaa instead. It ignores everything else except nvdaa. This is the only application where this happens. Appending a second a after nvdaa causes the default browser to launch, showing the URL as www.github.com/nvaccess/nvdaa. So, the only case where it ignores the entire address is when nvdaa is entered following the / (slash), but anything else appended to nvdaa causes the entire entry to be recognized properly, with the URL obviously being incorrect then.

 

It doesn’t matter which browser is the default one. Just for the sake of humor, I did this using Microsoft edge Beta, Microsoft Edge, Google Crome, Mozilla Firefox and even Internet Explorer as default browsers. Nothing visually happens on screen. You’re just bounced back to the desktop, the dialog closes, and NVDA restarts. It also does not matter whether NVDA is already running or not when doing this. It turns out that NVDA launches regardless, even if you exit the application, right click the start button, click “Run”, then enter in www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda.

 

Also, it doesn’t have to be that particular addressor any address at all. As long as it ends with /nvdaa, it does this. Apparently, even if it is thisissuperweird/nvdaa or stopdoingthis/nvda.

 

Maybe that last one is a clue to somebody. If it isn’t, I’ll probably figure it out tomorrow when I get back to work and have multiple configurations to test and modify that isn’t my own. I reiterate that this only happens with NVDA, and no other application so far. Windows rightly doesn’t recognize thisissuperweird followed by anything else after a  (slash), except if it is nvdaa, no matter what it is I enter before it.

 

I don’t think I can make that any clearer or long-winded.

 

Nicolai

 

 

 

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Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

No, as clearly stated, he is typing the whole address. Nvda appears to restart. Have you tired this with edge, or firefox? I believe you said you did this with chrome. Can you try whit with the control l, then typing in that address you gave? Also can you screen record this behavior so we may take a look at it? You can upload it to keybase or something so those of us with sight can look.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

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Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

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On 28 Jan 2020, at 9:54, Gene wrote:

We need to be clear about what you are doing.  Are you talking about the run dialog, Windows key being held and r or the start menu search, press the windows key, then type something.  None of the behavior you are describing matches the run dialog.  Typing NVDA should produce an error message because you haven't typed the path to the folder containing the executable first.  Typing NVDAA should also present an error message.  Using the start menu may produce the results you are describing if you type something and the first result is something you want and you press enter on it. 

 

As I said, you are running the NVDA executable, which I strongly suspect you are running from the start menu search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

You are running the NVDA exe file again.  NVDA is restarting.  NVDAA isn't running the exe file, though I don't seee why the browser would open, that isn't any sort of web site address.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Hello Brian,

 

I have used both Firefox and Google Chrome for this. At first I thought it was getting cut off as well, since NVDA will restart if you only type nvda into the run dialog, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart, but goes on to open the browser with the corresponding webpage address. If I enter nvda instead, NVDA just restarts and nothing else happens. It only happens with NVDA, and no other applications that can be launched from the run dialog box.

 

So this is kind of bizarre. I’m not really sure why this would occur at all. I’ve never had trouble actually doing this before.

 

Nicolai

 

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Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Nicolai,

          What web browser is set as your default?   It would be worth testing to see if this might somehow be linked to the browser being used, as odd as that might seem.

           The more you can narrow this down to a specific set of circumstances the better.

           I can imagine NVDA shutting down if the only thing being seen in the run dialog were to be NVDA.  Are you absolutely, positively certain that the entire URL was there?

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Re: NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

Gene
 

If so, this isn't the original subject line and I didn't keep the original message and I didn't recall how things were stated.  That's odd and I have no idea why.  Using things like book marks search features, I find it more convenient to work directly in the browser than to use the run dialog to open web pages. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

Hi,

 

Just to summarize, so everyone is on point:

 

As I originally stated, both in the subject line and original post, entering www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda into the run dialog box, certainly using Win+R, causes NVDA to restart as if I had just entered nvdaa instead. It ignores everything else except nvdaa. This is the only application where this happens. Appending a second a after nvdaa causes the default browser to launch, showing the URL as www.github.com/nvaccess/nvdaa. So, the only case where it ignores the entire address is when nvdaa is entered following the / (slash), but anything else appended to nvdaa causes the entire entry to be recognized properly, with the URL obviously being incorrect then.

 

It doesn’t matter which browser is the default one. Just for the sake of humor, I did this using Microsoft edge Beta, Microsoft Edge, Google Crome, Mozilla Firefox and even Internet Explorer as default browsers. Nothing visually happens on screen. You’re just bounced back to the desktop, the dialog closes, and NVDA restarts. It also does not matter whether NVDA is already running or not when doing this. It turns out that NVDA launches regardless, even if you exit the application, right click the start button, click “Run”, then enter in www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda.

 

Also, it doesn’t have to be that particular addressor any address at all. As long as it ends with /nvdaa, it does this. Apparently, even if it is thisissuperweird/nvdaa or stopdoingthis/nvda.

 

Maybe that last one is a clue to somebody. If it isn’t, I’ll probably figure it out tomorrow when I get back to work and have multiple configurations to test and modify that isn’t my own. I reiterate that this only happens with NVDA, and no other application so far. Windows rightly doesn’t recognize thisissuperweird followed by anything else after a  (slash), except if it is nvdaa, no matter what it is I enter before it.

 

I don’t think I can make that any clearer or long-winded.

 

Nicolai

 

 

 

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Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

No, as clearly stated, he is typing the whole address. Nvda appears to restart. Have you tired this with edge, or firefox? I believe you said you did this with chrome. Can you try whit with the control l, then typing in that address you gave? Also can you screen record this behavior so we may take a look at it? You can upload it to keybase or something so those of us with sight can look.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 28 Jan 2020, at 9:54, Gene wrote:

We need to be clear about what you are doing.  Are you talking about the run dialog, Windows key being held and r or the start menu search, press the windows key, then type something.  None of the behavior you are describing matches the run dialog.  Typing NVDA should produce an error message because you haven't typed the path to the folder containing the executable first.  Typing NVDAA should also present an error message.  Using the start menu may produce the results you are describing if you type something and the first result is something you want and you press enter on it. 

 

As I said, you are running the NVDA executable, which I strongly suspect you are running from the start menu search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

You are running the NVDA exe file again.  NVDA is restarting.  NVDAA isn't running the exe file, though I don't seee why the browser would open, that isn't any sort of web site address.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Hello Brian,

 

I have used both Firefox and Google Chrome for this. At first I thought it was getting cut off as well, since NVDA will restart if you only type nvda into the run dialog, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart, but goes on to open the browser with the corresponding webpage address. If I enter nvda instead, NVDA just restarts and nothing else happens. It only happens with NVDA, and no other applications that can be launched from the run dialog box.

 

So this is kind of bizarre. I’m not really sure why this would occur at all. I’ve never had trouble actually doing this before.

 

Nicolai

 

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Sendt: 28. januar 2020 17:38
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Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Nicolai,

          What web browser is set as your default?   It would be worth testing to see if this might somehow be linked to the browser being used, as odd as that might seem.

           The more you can narrow this down to a specific set of circumstances the better.

           I can imagine NVDA shutting down if the only thing being seen in the run dialog were to be NVDA.  Are you absolutely, positively certain that the entire URL was there?

--

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       ~ Madonna

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

Nicolai Svendsen
 

Hello Damien,

 

That was sort of what I was thinking as well. That certainly seems to be the most likely reason for this. I wasn’t aware Thunderbird did this too.

 

Thanks for confirming.

 

Nicolai

 

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Fra: Damien Garwood
Sendt: 28. januar 2020 19:57
Til: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Hi,

In actual fact, I believe this could be a Windows issue, not NVDA. Other

programs such as Thunderbird will also launch if a command contains its

name as part of the string. Maybe it's some kind of aliasing system

which does a search for the strings of programs that use it?

Cheers,

Damien.

 

On 28/01/2020 06:07 pm, Gene wrote:

> In the message I answered, this is stated:

> If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart, but goes on to

> open the browser with the corresponding webpage address.

> If the full address was stated in an earlier message, I don't recall

> it.  I should also add that my comments about needing to type the full

> path to run the NVDA executable in the run dialog may be wrong.  I use

> NVDA as a portable program.  I don't know what happens if you have it

> installed and use the run dialog.  Whatever the case, the executable is

> being run when just NVDA is being used.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Sarah k Alawami <mailto:marrie12@...>

> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:56 AM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

>

> No, as clearly stated, he is typing the whole address. Nvda appears to

> restart. Have you tired this with edge, or firefox? I believe you said

> you did this with chrome. Can you try whit with the control l, then

> typing in that address you gave? Also can you screen record this

> behavior so we may take a look at it? You can upload it to keybase or

> something so those of us with sight can look.

>

> Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

> <http://www.tffppodcast.com> This is also our libsyn page as well.

>

> to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp>

>

> Our telegram <https://t.me/tffppodcast> channel is also a good place for

> an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

>

> Our discord <https://discord.gg/dfr7MaVK> is where you will know when we

> go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a

> follow and see what is up there.

>

> Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

> <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

>

> On 28 Jan 2020, at 9:54, Gene wrote:

>

>     We need to be clear about what you are doing.  Are you talking about

>     the run dialog, Windows key being held and r or the start menu

>     search, press the windows key, then type something. None of the

>     behavior you are describing matches the run dialog.  Typing NVDA

>     should produce an error message because you haven't typed the path

>     to the folder containing the executable first.  Typing NVDAA should

>     also present an error message.  Using the start menu may produce the

>     results you are describing if you type something and the first

>     result is something you want and you press enter on it.

>     As I said, you are running the NVDA executable, which I strongly

>     suspect you are running from the start menu search.

>     Gene

>     ----- Original Message -----

>     *From:* Gene via Groups.Io <mailto:gsasner@...>

>     *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:46 AM

>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from

>     Run dialog

>

>     You are running the NVDA exe file again. NVDA is restarting.  NVDAA

>     isn't running the exe file, though I don't seee why the browser

>     would open, that isn't any sort of web site address.

>     Gene

>     ----- Original Message -----

>     *From:* Nicolai Svendsen <mailto:chojiro1990@...>

>     *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:57 AM

>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from

>     Run dialog

>

>     Hello Brian,

>

>     I have used both Firefox and Google Chrome for this. At first I

>     thought it was getting cut off as well, since NVDA will restart if

>     you only type nvda into the run dialog, but that doesn’t appear to

>     be the case. If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart,

>     but goes on to open the browser with the corresponding webpage

>     address. If I enter nvda instead, NVDA just restarts and nothing

>     else happens. It only happens with NVDA, and no other applications

>     that can be launched from the run dialog box.

>

>     So this is kind of bizarre. I’m not really sure why this would occur

>     at all. I’ve never had trouble actually doing this before.

>

>     Nicolai

>

>     Sendt fra Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> til

>     Windows 10

>

>     *Fra: *Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>

>     *Sendt: *28. januar 2020 17:38

>     *Til: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>     *Emne: *Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run

>     dialog

>

>     Nicolai,

>

>              What web browser is set as your default?  It would be worth

>     testing to see if this might somehow be linked to the browser being

>     used, as odd as that might seem.

>

>           The more you can narrow this down to a specific set of

>     circumstances the better.

>

>                 I can imagine NVDA shutting down if the only thing being

>     seen in the run dialog were to be NVDA.  Are you absolutely,

>     positively certain that the entire URL was there?

>

>     --

>

>     Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

>

>     *Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

>

>     ~ Madonna

>

>

 

 

 


Re: NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

Damien Garwood
 

Hi,
In actual fact, I believe this could be a Windows issue, not NVDA. Other programs such as Thunderbird will also launch if a command contains its name as part of the string. Maybe it's some kind of aliasing system which does a search for the strings of programs that use it?
Cheers,
Damien.

On 28/01/2020 06:07 pm, Gene wrote:
In the message I answered, this is stated:
If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart, but goes on to open the browser with the corresponding webpage address.
If the full address was stated in an earlier message, I don't recall it.  I should also add that my comments about needing to type the full path to run the NVDA executable in the run dialog may be wrong.  I use NVDA as a portable program.  I don't know what happens if you have it installed and use the run dialog.  Whatever the case, the executable is being run when just NVDA is being used.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Sarah k Alawami <mailto:marrie12@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:56 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog
No, as clearly stated, he is typing the whole address. Nvda appears to restart. Have you tired this with edge, or firefox? I believe you said you did this with chrome. Can you try whit with the control l, then typing in that address you gave? Also can you screen record this behavior so we may take a look at it? You can upload it to keybase or something so those of us with sight can look.
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com> This is also our libsyn page as well.
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On 28 Jan 2020, at 9:54, Gene wrote:
We need to be clear about what you are doing.  Are you talking about
the run dialog, Windows key being held and r or the start menu
search, press the windows key, then type something. None of the
behavior you are describing matches the run dialog.  Typing NVDA
should produce an error message because you haven't typed the path
to the folder containing the executable first.  Typing NVDAA should
also present an error message.  Using the start menu may produce the
results you are describing if you type something and the first
result is something you want and you press enter on it.
As I said, you are running the NVDA executable, which I strongly
suspect you are running from the start menu search.
Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from
Run dialog
You are running the NVDA exe file again. NVDA is restarting.  NVDAA
isn't running the exe file, though I don't seee why the browser
would open, that isn't any sort of web site address.
Gene
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*From:* Nicolai Svendsen <mailto:chojiro1990@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:57 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from
Run dialog
Hello Brian,
I have used both Firefox and Google Chrome for this. At first I
thought it was getting cut off as well, since NVDA will restart if
you only type nvda into the run dialog, but that doesn’t appear to
be the case. If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart,
but goes on to open the browser with the corresponding webpage
address. If I enter nvda instead, NVDA just restarts and nothing
else happens. It only happens with NVDA, and no other applications
that can be launched from the run dialog box.
So this is kind of bizarre. I’m not really sure why this would occur
at all. I’ve never had trouble actually doing this before.
Nicolai
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Nicolai,
        What web browser is set as your default?  It would be worth
testing to see if this might somehow be linked to the browser being
used, as odd as that might seem.
     The more you can narrow this down to a specific set of
circumstances the better.
           I can imagine NVDA shutting down if the only thing being
seen in the run dialog were to be NVDA.  Are you absolutely,
positively certain that the entire URL was there?
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Re: NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

Nicolai Svendsen
 

Hi,

 

Just to summarize, so everyone is on point:

 

As I originally stated, both in the subject line and original post, entering www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda into the run dialog box, certainly using Win+R, causes NVDA to restart as if I had just entered nvdaa instead. It ignores everything else except nvdaa. This is the only application where this happens. Appending a second a after nvdaa causes the default browser to launch, showing the URL as www.github.com/nvaccess/nvdaa. So, the only case where it ignores the entire address is when nvdaa is entered following the / (slash), but anything else appended to nvdaa causes the entire entry to be recognized properly, with the URL obviously being incorrect then.

 

It doesn’t matter which browser is the default one. Just for the sake of humor, I did this using Microsoft edge Beta, Microsoft Edge, Google Crome, Mozilla Firefox and even Internet Explorer as default browsers. Nothing visually happens on screen. You’re just bounced back to the desktop, the dialog closes, and NVDA restarts. It also does not matter whether NVDA is already running or not when doing this. It turns out that NVDA launches regardless, even if you exit the application, right click the start button, click “Run”, then enter in www.github.com/nvaccess/nvda.

 

Also, it doesn’t have to be that particular addressor any address at all. As long as it ends with /nvdaa, it does this. Apparently, even if it is thisissuperweird/nvdaa or stopdoingthis/nvda.

 

Maybe that last one is a clue to somebody. If it isn’t, I’ll probably figure it out tomorrow when I get back to work and have multiple configurations to test and modify that isn’t my own. I reiterate that this only happens with NVDA, and no other application so far. Windows rightly doesn’t recognize thisissuperweird followed by anything else after a  (slash), except if it is nvdaa, no matter what it is I enter before it.

 

I don’t think I can make that any clearer or long-winded.

 

Nicolai

 

 

 

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No, as clearly stated, he is typing the whole address. Nvda appears to restart. Have you tired this with edge, or firefox? I believe you said you did this with chrome. Can you try whit with the control l, then typing in that address you gave? Also can you screen record this behavior so we may take a look at it? You can upload it to keybase or something so those of us with sight can look.

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On 28 Jan 2020, at 9:54, Gene wrote:

We need to be clear about what you are doing.  Are you talking about the run dialog, Windows key being held and r or the start menu search, press the windows key, then type something.  None of the behavior you are describing matches the run dialog.  Typing NVDA should produce an error message because you haven't typed the path to the folder containing the executable first.  Typing NVDAA should also present an error message.  Using the start menu may produce the results you are describing if you type something and the first result is something you want and you press enter on it. 

 

As I said, you are running the NVDA executable, which I strongly suspect you are running from the start menu search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

You are running the NVDA exe file again.  NVDA is restarting.  NVDAA isn't running the exe file, though I don't seee why the browser would open, that isn't any sort of web site address.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Hello Brian,

 

I have used both Firefox and Google Chrome for this. At first I thought it was getting cut off as well, since NVDA will restart if you only type nvda into the run dialog, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. If I type nvdaa instead of nvdaa, it doesn’t restart, but goes on to open the browser with the corresponding webpage address. If I enter nvda instead, NVDA just restarts and nothing else happens. It only happens with NVDA, and no other applications that can be launched from the run dialog box.

 

So this is kind of bizarre. I’m not really sure why this would occur at all. I’ve never had trouble actually doing this before.

 

Nicolai

 

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Fra: Brian Vogel
Sendt: 28. januar 2020 17:38
Til: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Emne: Re: [nvda] NVDA restarts when I go to Github page from Run dialog

 

Nicolai,

          What web browser is set as your default?   It would be worth testing to see if this might somehow be linked to the browser being used, as odd as that might seem.

           The more you can narrow this down to a specific set of circumstances the better.

           I can imagine NVDA shutting down if the only thing being seen in the run dialog were to be NVDA.  Are you absolutely, positively certain that the entire URL was there?

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

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