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Re: New member having issues with NVCA.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Connie


is it his first time using a screen reader? as most people who are screen reader users do not use a mouse and navigate the computer differently.


Using the tab and shift tab keys, arrow keys the alt keys etc


The best place to start if he is a new screen reader user as not used one before is up on the web site given is a page called nvda tutorials learning the basics and will help in what to do.

I forgot to say also when you use the nvda key + letter N under the help section then user guide is where they would find shortcuts for both desk top and lap top users.


There is alot of info on the web site both in written and audio that will help in learning nvda.


Gene nz

On 6/02/2020 1:40 pm, Connie Mohney wrote:

Thank you very much Gene. Your information is very helpful. I have created a NVDA folder so I can refer to it later if I need to.
Connie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

Hi Connie


I am guessing nvda has been installed to your computer so when you
downloaded the file and clicked on it you chose the first option to
install to your computer.


If you have not used nvda before it is the alt key + ctrl key + the
letter N to start your copy of nvda.

To get into your preferences of nvda where you can make changes like
speed etc use the nvda key + the letter N

To quit your copy of nvda use the nvda key + the letter Q


If nvda is running you can quickly get to the voice settings by useing
the following keys combo nvda key + ctrl key + the letter V

The first option will be for the synth package under windows 10 the
default is e speak and windows 10 default is windows one core voices.
There is a change button just under neath cclick on it it is a combo box
and see what is there if one core is there pick it It will then default
back to the menu and you can then go down the list like voice you can
pick a voice it is a combo box again but it will be on the package how
many there are there.

Pick one that is nice to listen to.

There other option under that will be speed it is a slider use the left
and right arrow keys to speed up or slow down nvda The left arrow keys
is slower and the right is faster.


You can then go down to apply and ok button and click on them.


You might as well see under the synths section what other packages are
there you might like but it will be the section under neath on the voice
settings where you can hear some of those voices.


Any how if you are interested I have put together a website called
accessibilitycentral.net which can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

It will help you to use nvda this is more for a desk top user as most
people are.



By the way I forgot to mention the nvda key depending which one you
chose can be the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock
key. Use one that you chose say to quit nvda for example insert key +
the letter Q.


hope this helps

Gene nz


On 6/02/2020 8:54 am, Connie Mohney wrote:
Good afternoon all,
My name is Connie.
My son and I downloaded NVDA yesterday. I thought we had saved a voice I
liked and could understand. Unfortunately we didn't. Could I have
assistance getting the voice back I can understand please? I need step by
step directions as I'm not familiar with this screen reader. Thank you in
advance for your responses.
Connie







Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

Gary Metzler
 

I am using the one core zera and love it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

I agree. Max and female 5 are my two favorite voices. They're the clearest ones.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

, I too am using the Max voice.  I’m happy with it.  I can put $70 to a grocery bill instead of a voice I don’t really need. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I agree that espeak does sound so much better on windows 10. I don't need any other voices either. I'm using the Max voice one right now. What one do you use? Just wondering.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 3:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Josh! I like what windows ten has done to E Speak for NVDA!  I’m happy with it and liking it!  I thought the NVDA developers who created E Speak worked E speak to work better with win ten!  E Speak did improve in win 7.  But win ten made E speak sound even better!  Not worth complaining about.  I just configured E speak to my liking. I don’t need no other voices.  I like what’s there! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

You guys are complaining about spending $70 on a voice? I remember when you had to spend $200 or more likely $500 for a good voice like decTalk or keyNote gold. So why are you complaining? If you have windows10, the oneCore voices work excellent and support many languages. ESpeak also sounds good if you set its voice correctly or the way you like it. And that $70 from www.atguys.com gives you both eloquence with all its voices and vocalizer with all of its voices. So $70 is a really really good deal as far as buying voices is concerned. 

Josh

 

 


Re: Issue With NVDA 2019 RC 2 When Computer Boots

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Shawn,

Well I allowed an update from 2019.3 RC 2 to 2019.3 RC 3 and it seems to have fixed the problem.

On 2/5/2020 5:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Um there should be a log generated.

look at nvda old .log and send us all lines below nvda initialised.

If there is a traceback which there undoubtedly is it should show up here if it was at all logged.



On 6/02/2020 3:35 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

When I boot the computer, NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 seems to lock up or unload.  This issue did not occur in any previous version of NVDA either stable or beta.  I hear NVDA start and then it stops speaking.  I wait a minute or so and press some reading keys--such as insert + T for title.  With no speech, if I press the hotkey to start NVDA, it starts.  Is anyone else seeing this issue?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: New member having issues with NVCA.

Connie Mohney <cmohney1961@...>
 

Thank you very much Gene. Your information is very helpful. I have created a NVDA folder so I can refer to it later if I need to.
Connie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

Hi Connie


I am guessing nvda has been installed to your computer so when you
downloaded the file and clicked on it you chose the first option to
install to your computer.


If you have not used nvda before it is the alt key + ctrl key + the
letter N to start your copy of nvda.

To get into your preferences of nvda where you can make changes like
speed etc use the nvda key + the letter N

To quit your copy of nvda use the nvda key + the letter Q


If nvda is running you can quickly get to the voice settings by useing
the following keys combo nvda key + ctrl key + the letter V

The first option will be for the synth package under windows 10 the
default is e speak and windows 10 default is windows one core voices.
There is a change button just under neath cclick on it it is a combo box
and see what is there if one core is there pick it It will then default
back to the menu and you can then go down the list like voice you can
pick a voice it is a combo box again but it will be on the package how
many there are there.

Pick one that is nice to listen to.

There other option under that will be speed it is a slider use the left
and right arrow keys to speed up or slow down nvda The left arrow keys
is slower and the right is faster.


You can then go down to apply and ok button and click on them.


You might as well see under the synths section what other packages are
there you might like but it will be the section under neath on the voice
settings where you can hear some of those voices.


Any how if you are interested I have put together a website called
accessibilitycentral.net which can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

It will help you to use nvda this is more for a desk top user as most
people are.



By the way I forgot to mention the nvda key depending which one you
chose can be the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock
key. Use one that you chose say to quit nvda for example insert key +
the letter Q.


hope this helps

Gene nz


On 6/02/2020 8:54 am, Connie Mohney wrote:
Good afternoon all,
My name is Connie.
My son and I downloaded NVDA yesterday. I thought we had saved a voice I
liked and could understand. Unfortunately we didn't. Could I have
assistance getting the voice back I can understand please? I need step by
step directions as I'm not familiar with this screen reader. Thank you in
advance for your responses.
Connie




Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Have you tried out the Gene voice or the gene 2 voice which is a bit higher they are nice to listen to. To tell the truth I mostly use Gene there is no echo etc.


Gene nz


On 6/02/2020 1:04 pm, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I agree. Max and female 5 are my two favorite voices. They're the clearest ones.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

, I too am using the Max voice.  I’m happy with it.  I can put $70 to a grocery bill instead of a voice I don’t really need. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I agree that espeak does sound so much better on windows 10. I don't need any other voices either. I'm using the Max voice one right now. What one do you use? Just wondering.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 3:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Josh! I like what windows ten has done to E Speak for NVDA!  I’m happy with it and liking it!  I thought the NVDA developers who created E Speak worked E speak to work better with win ten!  E Speak did improve in win 7.  But win ten made E speak sound even better!  Not worth complaining about.  I just configured E speak to my liking. I don’t need no other voices.  I like what’s there! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

You guys are complaining about spending $70 on a voice? I remember when you had to spend $200 or more likely $500 for a good voice like decTalk or keyNote gold. So why are you complaining? If you have windows10, the oneCore voices work excellent and support many languages. ESpeak also sounds good if you set its voice correctly or the way you like it. And that $70 from www.atguys.com gives you both eloquence with all its voices and vocalizer with all of its voices. So $70 is a really really good deal as far as buying voices is concerned. 

Josh

 

 


Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

Arlene
 

Hi, they are clear for me too. Those voices rocked when I took my online course!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 5, 2020 4:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

I agree. Max and female 5 are my two favorite voices. They're the clearest ones.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

, I too am using the Max voice.  I’m happy with it.  I can put $70 to a grocery bill instead of a voice I don’t really need. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I agree that espeak does sound so much better on windows 10. I don't need any other voices either. I'm using the Max voice one right now. What one do you use? Just wondering.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 3:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Josh! I like what windows ten has done to E Speak for NVDA!  I’m happy with it and liking it!  I thought the NVDA developers who created E Speak worked E speak to work better with win ten!  E Speak did improve in win 7.  But win ten made E speak sound even better!  Not worth complaining about.  I just configured E speak to my liking. I don’t need no other voices.  I like what’s there! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

You guys are complaining about spending $70 on a voice? I remember when you had to spend $200 or more likely $500 for a good voice like decTalk or keyNote gold. So why are you complaining? If you have windows10, the oneCore voices work excellent and support many languages. ESpeak also sounds good if you set its voice correctly or the way you like it. And that $70 from www.atguys.com gives you both eloquence with all its voices and vocalizer with all of its voices. So $70 is a really really good deal as far as buying voices is concerned. 

Josh

 

 

 


Re: New member having issues with NVCA.

Arlene
 

Hi, I am using windows ten. Liking it too.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: February 5, 2020 4:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

It doesn't have its own voices specifically for NVDA.  NVDA uses the Windows 10 voices, the voices that come with Windows 10, by default if you are using Windows 10.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 5:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

Well I’ll be! Windows ten has its own voices for NVDA?  I actually like them.  They’re not all that bad if you don’t mind me saying so! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: February 5, 2020 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

We don't know which voice it was.  Have you been using Eloquence?  If you want to use it, you can use a demo that runs for seven days.  You can then purchase it or not, as you wish.  There are a lot of free voices.  It appears you are not using Windows 10.  Windows 10 uses its own voices with NVDA by default that many people like.  If you are using E-Speak, the default voice not in Windows 10, you may well want to try other voices.  There are lots of free voices but, in the area of synthesized speech, if you pay nothing, you get poor quality.  it takes a very specialized team of experts to create good voices. 

 

You may find and try whatever free voices you wish or demo voices here:

 

Download the voice, it usually is an add-on.

Use the command NVDA key n, by default, either insert is the NVDA key.  A menu will open.

Down arrow to tools and press enter.

Down arrow to Manage Add-ons and press enter.

A dialog opens.

Tab to the install button and press the space bar.

An open dialog will open.

Find the add-on, as you find a file you wich to open in a standard open dialog.  If you need more information, ask.

When you find the add-on, press enter and you will be asked if you wish to install it.  answer yes.

After it installs, you will be asked if you want to restart NVDA.  Use the appropriate button, I don't recall what it says.

NVDA will restart.

Switch to the synthesizer by issuing the command control insert s.  Find what you want in the list and press enter.  If you don't find it, ask here.

 

Press escape if you want to close the dialog without doing anything.  I'll tell you how to adjust the speed of the voice and make other changes in a later message, after you get the voice installed.

 

Also, before you do any of this, I would recommend changing the following setting to keep you from accidentally saving settings you don't want to save when you are just trying them out.  Set NVDA not to automatically save settings on exit.  That way, you can return to the old settings unless you want to save the new ones.  To do this, with NVDA running, use the command control insert g.  You may use either insert.

Tab, perhaps just once, to a check box that says save settings on exit.  It is checked.  Uncheck it with the space bar, then press enter  The dialog will close. 

 

Now, if you change settings and you want to save them, use the command control insert c.  If you don't use this command, when you close NVDA and start it again, all the old settings will be used.

Use the command after you press enter.  In other words, uncheck the check box with the space bar, press enter, issue the command control insert c.  You will hear "Configuration saved," spoken.  You have just saved the setting you made. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 1:54 PM

Subject: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

Good afternoon all,
My name is Connie.
My son and I downloaded NVDA yesterday.  I thought we had saved a voice I
liked and could understand.  Unfortunately we didn't.  Could I have
assistance getting the voice back I can understand please?  I need step by
step directions as I'm not familiar with this screen reader. Thank you in
advance for your responses.
Connie

 

 


Re: New member having issues with NVCA.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Connie


I am guessing nvda has been installed to your computer so when you downloaded the file and clicked on it you chose the first option to install to your computer.


If you have not used nvda before it is the alt key + ctrl key + the letter N to start your copy of nvda.

To get into your preferences of nvda where you can make changes like speed etc use the nvda key + the letter N

To quit your copy of nvda use the nvda key + the letter Q


If nvda is running you can quickly get to the voice settings by useing the following keys combo nvda key + ctrl key + the letter V

The first option will be for the synth package under windows 10 the default is e speak and windows 10 default is windows one core voices. There is a change button just under neath cclick on it it is a combo box and see what is there if one core is there pick it It will then default back to the menu and you can then go down the list like voice you can pick a voice it is a combo box again but it will be on the package how many there are there.

Pick one that is nice to listen to.

There other option under that will be speed it is a slider use the left and right arrow keys to speed  up or slow down nvda The left arrow keys is slower and the right is faster.


You can then go down to apply and ok button and click on them.


You might as well see under the synths section what other packages are there you might like but it will be the section under neath on the voice settings where you can hear some of those voices.


Any how if you are interested I have put together a website called accessibilitycentral.net which can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

It will help you to use nvda this is more for a desk top user as most people are.



By the way I forgot to mention the nvda key depending which one you chose can be the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key. Use one that you chose say to quit nvda for example insert key + the letter Q.


hope this helps

Gene nz

On 6/02/2020 8:54 am, Connie Mohney wrote:
Good afternoon all,
My name is Connie.
My son and I downloaded NVDA yesterday. I thought we had saved a voice I
liked and could understand. Unfortunately we didn't. Could I have
assistance getting the voice back I can understand please? I need step by
step directions as I'm not familiar with this screen reader. Thank you in
advance for your responses.
Connie



Re: My presentation and experience with NVDA

Arlene
 

Oh wow. I hope you take computer classes where they teach you programming as a blind student.  Not sure if you can do it! I think you can take an online computing class.  You can get your special teacher at your school or your parents to help you look for a computer class where you can program a computer as a blind person.  You got the smarts! Keep it up.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: February 5, 2020 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My presentation and experience with NVDA

 

Hello!

Yes, i have many knowledge about computing (Windows and phones with Android) and also i am a musicien (pley the piano).

In my holidays and free time, i go to start to learn basic comcepts of the programming, and after, Python.

 

Regards!

 

05/02/2020 at 18:46pm, Arlene sais:

Wow! You’ve been using NVDA since grade one!  Keep up your skills! Kid, you’ll be going places when you finish school!  Meaning you’d be a good developer when you finish school!  Keep doing what you are doing! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: February 5, 2020 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] My presentation and experience with NVDA

 

Hello, NVDA users and developers!

 

My name is Carlos Esteban Martinez Macias. I am a blind person, i am

from Ecuador and i am 14 years old.

 

I use NVDA from the year 2012. In my opinion, is a very good screen reader.

 

Also, i am a contributor in the spanish comunity of NVDA. I writ various

articles in the web site of the spanish comunity (www.nvda.es), for

example, a tutorial about how change the sounds of NVDA for start, exit,

focus mode or brouse mode. Other tutorial is about how read subtitles

with the program Pot Player and NVDA with an option of accessibility of

this player.

 

In a future, i go to translate my tutorials to english.

 

The transition of NVDA from Python 2.7 to Python 3 is, for me, a good

change, and necessary.

 

Regards!

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: New member having issues with NVCA.

Gene
 

It doesn't have its own voices specifically for NVDA.  NVDA uses the Windows 10 voices, the voices that come with Windows 10, by default if you are using Windows 10.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

Well I’ll be! Windows ten has its own voices for NVDA?  I actually like them.  They’re not all that bad if you don’t mind me saying so! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: February 5, 2020 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

We don't know which voice it was.  Have you been using Eloquence?  If you want to use it, you can use a demo that runs for seven days.  You can then purchase it or not, as you wish.  There are a lot of free voices.  It appears you are not using Windows 10.  Windows 10 uses its own voices with NVDA by default that many people like.  If you are using E-Speak, the default voice not in Windows 10, you may well want to try other voices.  There are lots of free voices but, in the area of synthesized speech, if you pay nothing, you get poor quality.  it takes a very specialized team of experts to create good voices. 

 

You may find and try whatever free voices you wish or demo voices here:

 

Download the voice, it usually is an add-on.

Use the command NVDA key n, by default, either insert is the NVDA key.  A menu will open.

Down arrow to tools and press enter.

Down arrow to Manage Add-ons and press enter.

A dialog opens.

Tab to the install button and press the space bar.

An open dialog will open.

Find the add-on, as you find a file you wich to open in a standard open dialog.  If you need more information, ask.

When you find the add-on, press enter and you will be asked if you wish to install it.  answer yes.

After it installs, you will be asked if you want to restart NVDA.  Use the appropriate button, I don't recall what it says.

NVDA will restart.

Switch to the synthesizer by issuing the command control insert s.  Find what you want in the list and press enter.  If you don't find it, ask here.

 

Press escape if you want to close the dialog without doing anything.  I'll tell you how to adjust the speed of the voice and make other changes in a later message, after you get the voice installed.

 

Also, before you do any of this, I would recommend changing the following setting to keep you from accidentally saving settings you don't want to save when you are just trying them out.  Set NVDA not to automatically save settings on exit.  That way, you can return to the old settings unless you want to save the new ones.  To do this, with NVDA running, use the command control insert g.  You may use either insert.

Tab, perhaps just once, to a check box that says save settings on exit.  It is checked.  Uncheck it with the space bar, then press enter  The dialog will close. 

 

Now, if you change settings and you want to save them, use the command control insert c.  If you don't use this command, when you close NVDA and start it again, all the old settings will be used.

Use the command after you press enter.  In other words, uncheck the check box with the space bar, press enter, issue the command control insert c.  You will hear "Configuration saved," spoken.  You have just saved the setting you made. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 1:54 PM

Subject: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

Good afternoon all,
My name is Connie.
My son and I downloaded NVDA yesterday.  I thought we had saved a voice I
liked and could understand.  Unfortunately we didn't.  Could I have
assistance getting the voice back I can understand please?  I need step by
step directions as I'm not familiar with this screen reader. Thank you in
advance for your responses.
Connie


 


Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I agree. Max and female 5 are my two favorite voices. They're the clearest ones.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

, I too am using the Max voice.  I’m happy with it.  I can put $70 to a grocery bill instead of a voice I don’t really need. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I agree that espeak does sound so much better on windows 10. I don't need any other voices either. I'm using the Max voice one right now. What one do you use? Just wondering.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 3:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Josh! I like what windows ten has done to E Speak for NVDA!  I’m happy with it and liking it!  I thought the NVDA developers who created E Speak worked E speak to work better with win ten!  E Speak did improve in win 7.  But win ten made E speak sound even better!  Not worth complaining about.  I just configured E speak to my liking. I don’t need no other voices.  I like what’s there! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

You guys are complaining about spending $70 on a voice? I remember when you had to spend $200 or more likely $500 for a good voice like decTalk or keyNote gold. So why are you complaining? If you have windows10, the oneCore voices work excellent and support many languages. ESpeak also sounds good if you set its voice correctly or the way you like it. And that $70 from www.atguys.com gives you both eloquence with all its voices and vocalizer with all of its voices. So $70 is a really really good deal as far as buying voices is concerned. 

Josh

 

 


Re: My presentation and experience with NVDA

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hello!

Yes, i have many knowledge about computing (Windows and phones with Android) and also i am a musicien (pley the piano).

In my holidays and free time, i go to start to learn basic comcepts of the programming, and after, Python.


Regards!


05/02/2020 at 18:46pm, Arlene sais:

Wow! You’ve been using NVDA since grade one!  Keep up your skills! Kid, you’ll be going places when you finish school!  Meaning you’d be a good developer when you finish school!  Keep doing what you are doing! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: February 5, 2020 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] My presentation and experience with NVDA

 

Hello, NVDA users and developers!

 

My name is Carlos Esteban Martinez Macias. I am a blind person, i am

from Ecuador and i am 14 years old.

 

I use NVDA from the year 2012. In my opinion, is a very good screen reader.

 

Also, i am a contributor in the spanish comunity of NVDA. I writ various

articles in the web site of the spanish comunity (www.nvda.es), for

example, a tutorial about how change the sounds of NVDA for start, exit,

focus mode or brouse mode. Other tutorial is about how read subtitles

with the program Pot Player and NVDA with an option of accessibility of

this player.

 

In a future, i go to translate my tutorials to english.

 

The transition of NVDA from Python 2.7 to Python 3 is, for me, a good

change, and necessary.

 

Regards!

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

Arlene
 

, I too am using the Max voice.  I’m happy with it.  I can put $70 to a grocery bill instead of a voice I don’t really need. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I agree that espeak does sound so much better on windows 10. I don't need any other voices either. I'm using the Max voice one right now. What one do you use? Just wondering.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 3:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Josh! I like what windows ten has done to E Speak for NVDA!  I’m happy with it and liking it!  I thought the NVDA developers who created E Speak worked E speak to work better with win ten!  E Speak did improve in win 7.  But win ten made E speak sound even better!  Not worth complaining about.  I just configured E speak to my liking. I don’t need no other voices.  I like what’s there! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

You guys are complaining about spending $70 on a voice? I remember when you had to spend $200 or more likely $500 for a good voice like decTalk or keyNote gold. So why are you complaining? If you have windows10, the oneCore voices work excellent and support many languages. ESpeak also sounds good if you set its voice correctly or the way you like it. And that $70 from www.atguys.com gives you both eloquence with all its voices and vocalizer with all of its voices. So $70 is a really really good deal as far as buying voices is concerned. 

Josh

 

 


Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I agree that espeak does sound so much better on windows 10. I don't need any other voices either. I'm using the Max voice one right now. What one do you use? Just wondering.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 3:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

Josh! I like what windows ten has done to E Speak for NVDA!  I’m happy with it and liking it!  I thought the NVDA developers who created E Speak worked E speak to work better with win ten!  E Speak did improve in win 7.  But win ten made E speak sound even better!  Not worth complaining about.  I just configured E speak to my liking. I don’t need no other voices.  I like what’s there! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

You guys are complaining about spending $70 on a voice? I remember when you had to spend $200 or more likely $500 for a good voice like decTalk or keyNote gold. So why are you complaining? If you have windows10, the oneCore voices work excellent and support many languages. ESpeak also sounds good if you set its voice correctly or the way you like it. And that $70 from www.atguys.com gives you both eloquence with all its voices and vocalizer with all of its voices. So $70 is a really really good deal as far as buying voices is concerned. 

Josh

 


Re: New member having issues with NVCA.

 

Well for voices they are quite good.

There are issues with speed etc but yeah, they are a lot better than the old microsoft sam mary and mike voices, and certainly a lot better than anna.

It does help you can load all languages independant of language via narator voice.

It even has brltty support via brltty to be installable.



On 6/02/2020 12:34 pm, Arlene wrote:

Well I’ll be! Windows ten has its own voices for NVDA?  I actually like them.  They’re not all that bad if you don’t mind me saying so! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: February 5, 2020 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

We don't know which voice it was.  Have you been using Eloquence?  If you want to use it, you can use a demo that runs for seven days.  You can then purchase it or not, as you wish.  There are a lot of free voices.  It appears you are not using Windows 10.  Windows 10 uses its own voices with NVDA by default that many people like.  If you are using E-Speak, the default voice not in Windows 10, you may well want to try other voices.  There are lots of free voices but, in the area of synthesized speech, if you pay nothing, you get poor quality.  it takes a very specialized team of experts to create good voices. 

 

You may find and try whatever free voices you wish or demo voices here:

 

Download the voice, it usually is an add-on.

Use the command NVDA key n, by default, either insert is the NVDA key.  A menu will open.

Down arrow to tools and press enter.

Down arrow to Manage Add-ons and press enter.

A dialog opens.

Tab to the install button and press the space bar.

An open dialog will open.

Find the add-on, as you find a file you wich to open in a standard open dialog.  If you need more information, ask.

When you find the add-on, press enter and you will be asked if you wish to install it.  answer yes.

After it installs, you will be asked if you want to restart NVDA.  Use the appropriate button, I don't recall what it says.

NVDA will restart.

Switch to the synthesizer by issuing the command control insert s.  Find what you want in the list and press enter.  If you don't find it, ask here.

 

Press escape if you want to close the dialog without doing anything.  I'll tell you how to adjust the speed of the voice and make other changes in a later message, after you get the voice installed.

 

Also, before you do any of this, I would recommend changing the following setting to keep you from accidentally saving settings you don't want to save when you are just trying them out.  Set NVDA not to automatically save settings on exit.  That way, you can return to the old settings unless you want to save the new ones.  To do this, with NVDA running, use the command control insert g.  You may use either insert.

Tab, perhaps just once, to a check box that says save settings on exit.  It is checked.  Uncheck it with the space bar, then press enter  The dialog will close. 

 

Now, if you change settings and you want to save them, use the command control insert c.  If you don't use this command, when you close NVDA and start it again, all the old settings will be used.

Use the command after you press enter.  In other words, uncheck the check box with the space bar, press enter, issue the command control insert c.  You will hear "Configuration saved," spoken.  You have just saved the setting you made. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 1:54 PM

Subject: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

Good afternoon all,
My name is Connie.
My son and I downloaded NVDA yesterday.  I thought we had saved a voice I
liked and could understand.  Unfortunately we didn't.  Could I have
assistance getting the voice back I can understand please?  I need step by
step directions as I'm not familiar with this screen reader. Thank you in
advance for your responses.
Connie


 


Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

Arlene
 

Josh! I like what windows ten has done to E Speak for NVDA!  I’m happy with it and liking it!  I thought the NVDA developers who created E Speak worked E speak to work better with win ten!  E Speak did improve in win 7.  But win ten made E speak sound even better!  Not worth complaining about.  I just configured E speak to my liking. I don’t need no other voices.  I like what’s there! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: February 5, 2020 3:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

 

You guys are complaining about spending $70 on a voice? I remember when you had to spend $200 or more likely $500 for a good voice like decTalk or keyNote gold. So why are you complaining? If you have windows10, the oneCore voices work excellent and support many languages. ESpeak also sounds good if you set its voice correctly or the way you like it. And that $70 from www.atguys.com gives you both eloquence with all its voices and vocalizer with all of its voices. So $70 is a really really good deal as far as buying voices is concerned. 

Josh

 


Re: My presentation and experience with NVDA

Arlene
 

Wow! You’ve been using NVDA since grade one!  Keep up your skills! Kid, you’ll be going places when you finish school!  Meaning you’d be a good developer when you finish school!  Keep doing what you are doing! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: February 5, 2020 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] My presentation and experience with NVDA

 

Hello, NVDA users and developers!

 

My name is Carlos Esteban Martinez Macias. I am a blind person, i am

from Ecuador and i am 14 years old.

 

I use NVDA from the year 2012. In my opinion, is a very good screen reader.

 

Also, i am a contributor in the spanish comunity of NVDA. I writ various

articles in the web site of the spanish comunity (www.nvda.es), for

example, a tutorial about how change the sounds of NVDA for start, exit,

focus mode or brouse mode. Other tutorial is about how read subtitles

with the program Pot Player and NVDA with an option of accessibility of

this player.

 

In a future, i go to translate my tutorials to english.

 

The transition of NVDA from Python 2.7 to Python 3 is, for me, a good

change, and necessary.

 

Regards!

 

 

 

 

 


Re: New member having issues with NVCA.

Arlene
 

Well I’ll be! Windows ten has its own voices for NVDA?  I actually like them.  They’re not all that bad if you don’t mind me saying so! 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: February 5, 2020 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

We don't know which voice it was.  Have you been using Eloquence?  If you want to use it, you can use a demo that runs for seven days.  You can then purchase it or not, as you wish.  There are a lot of free voices.  It appears you are not using Windows 10.  Windows 10 uses its own voices with NVDA by default that many people like.  If you are using E-Speak, the default voice not in Windows 10, you may well want to try other voices.  There are lots of free voices but, in the area of synthesized speech, if you pay nothing, you get poor quality.  it takes a very specialized team of experts to create good voices. 

 

You may find and try whatever free voices you wish or demo voices here:

 

Download the voice, it usually is an add-on.

Use the command NVDA key n, by default, either insert is the NVDA key.  A menu will open.

Down arrow to tools and press enter.

Down arrow to Manage Add-ons and press enter.

A dialog opens.

Tab to the install button and press the space bar.

An open dialog will open.

Find the add-on, as you find a file you wich to open in a standard open dialog.  If you need more information, ask.

When you find the add-on, press enter and you will be asked if you wish to install it.  answer yes.

After it installs, you will be asked if you want to restart NVDA.  Use the appropriate button, I don't recall what it says.

NVDA will restart.

Switch to the synthesizer by issuing the command control insert s.  Find what you want in the list and press enter.  If you don't find it, ask here.

 

Press escape if you want to close the dialog without doing anything.  I'll tell you how to adjust the speed of the voice and make other changes in a later message, after you get the voice installed.

 

Also, before you do any of this, I would recommend changing the following setting to keep you from accidentally saving settings you don't want to save when you are just trying them out.  Set NVDA not to automatically save settings on exit.  That way, you can return to the old settings unless you want to save the new ones.  To do this, with NVDA running, use the command control insert g.  You may use either insert.

Tab, perhaps just once, to a check box that says save settings on exit.  It is checked.  Uncheck it with the space bar, then press enter  The dialog will close. 

 

Now, if you change settings and you want to save them, use the command control insert c.  If you don't use this command, when you close NVDA and start it again, all the old settings will be used.

Use the command after you press enter.  In other words, uncheck the check box with the space bar, press enter, issue the command control insert c.  You will hear "Configuration saved," spoken.  You have just saved the setting you made. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2020 1:54 PM

Subject: [nvda] New member having issues with NVCA.

 

Good afternoon all,
My name is Connie.
My son and I downloaded NVDA yesterday.  I thought we had saved a voice I
liked and could understand.  Unfortunately we didn't.  Could I have
assistance getting the voice back I can understand please?  I need step by
step directions as I'm not familiar with this screen reader. Thank you in
advance for your responses.
Connie


 


Re: Issue With NVDA 2019 RC 2 When Computer Boots

 

Um there should be a log generated.

look at nvda old .log and send us all lines below nvda initialised.

If there is a traceback which there undoubtedly is it should show up here if it was at all logged.

On 6/02/2020 3:35 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

When I boot the computer, NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 seems to lock up or unload.  This issue did not occur in any previous version of NVDA either stable or beta.  I hear NVDA start and then it stops speaking.  I wait a minute or so and press some reading keys--such as insert + T for title.  With no speech, if I press the hotkey to start NVDA, it starts.  Is anyone else seeing this issue?


Re: In-Process and RC3 both out

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,

 

I just downloaded the new RC release and so-far haven't encountered any issues. Looking forward to the stable release when it comes out. Thanks so much for all your hard work.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] In-Process and RC3 both out

 

Good morning,

 

Two announcements from me this morning:

 

 

And one of the main things covered in it is the impending 2019.3 release, and in particular, the hot-off-the-press 2019.3 rc3 release which came out overnight: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc3-now-available-for-testing/ 

 

The main change in the latest RC is a fix to some of the translation strings.  If you are using NVDA in a language other than English, please try this RC and make sure everything is translated correctly.

 

And of course keep an eye out for any other issues with the RC and let us know!

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager