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Re: Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer wanting to verify the license with new version?

Simone Dal Maso
 

Il 06/02/2020 13:11, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
No, Simone, the only NVDA update causing problems in renewing the license is this one from Python 2 to Python 3.
In fact Rui, I agree with you, and this is the matter, because users don't expect to have problems. They know that their screen reader update and generally no problems occour.
Anyway, the only thing I can do is sending an email that advise users to be really carefully before updating the screen reader.


Best regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 11:52 de 06/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:

Il 06/02/2020 12:00, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Well if you want to update windows you need to deactivate and reactivate anyway.
Yes, but a thing is for example changing the computer. You change pc, or you want to format, and you know that you should be very careful with your data and license.
Another thing is when your screen reader updates.
This operation is made 2 3 times in a year and users
 make the operation without troubles or thoughts.
Users don't expect that the voices stop talking!

I don't know how we're going to handle this.










Its why I spent the extra cash and got the sapi licences last year.

True this meant I had to pay 185 dollars us for both synths eloquence and vocaliser, however the only time I need to deactivate is if the system dies which doesn't happen often or at least I hope it doesn't and when windows updates on feature updates.

Which is twice a year.

I need to deauth my itunes anyway every time to avoid issues so its not a big issue and it doesn't effect anything really.

Atguys are a good reseller anyway.

Now I would assume I'd have to deactivate every nvda update if things changed and since thats like every 3 months thats 6 times, and thats to many.

Plus I can use my voices for everything else.



On 6/02/2020 11:34 pm, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

Il 05/02/2020 15:52, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Maybe it will not possible...
So do you think that also Codefactory will have the same problems?
All expressive vocalizer users of NVDA, regardless of the reseller, will have to update manually the license, doing the procedure to cancel and reactivate?

I want to cry!




The encriptation and encoding process are different fron python 2 to python 3...


Rui Fontes


Às 10:53 de 05/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:
Hello,
if I have to be honest, I'm desperate about just this thing!
I wish that day would never come.
 From what I understand, it is necessary to cancel the old activation,
update NVDA and the Vocalizer driver and then reactivate it.
I really hope that things have improved, because if the license is not
renewed automatically, I foresee a disaster. There are many elderly
people who have no idea of ​​their credentials, as long as the
computer speaks. Set it up once and away.
Over the years someone has certainly lost the data, in short, I really
pray to Rui Fontes and the developers


to make renewal of the license as simple as possible.
ps: this message is translated on fly with google translate, hope it is clear.


2020-02-04 17:45 GMT+01:00, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>:
I’ve several Spanish-speaking friends with legal Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
voices, who when they want to upgrade their’s, it with NVDA2019.3 RC, a
dialogue about verifying license pops up, and I worry that it’ll happen here
at my end when the time comes to upgrade! What is recommended if this
arises?




Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10







.




Re: NVDA no longer reading emails one line at a time

Karmelo
 

Clive,

 

Try NVDA key plus space-bar it will probably solve the problem.

 

Charles Borg

 


Re: Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer wanting to verify the license with new version?

Rui Fontes
 

No, Simone, the only NVDA update causing problems in renewing the license is this one from Python 2 to Python 3.


Best regards,



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 11:52 de 06/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:


Il 06/02/2020 12:00, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Well if you want to update windows you need to deactivate and reactivate anyway.
Yes, but a thing is for example changing the computer. You change pc, or you want to format, and you know that you should be very careful with your data and license.
Another thing is when your screen reader updates.
This operation is made 2 3 times in a year and users
 make the operation without troubles or thoughts.
Users don't expect that the voices stop talking!

I don't know how we're going to handle this.










Its why I spent the extra cash and got the sapi licences last year.

True this meant I had to pay 185 dollars us for both synths eloquence and vocaliser, however the only time I need to deactivate is if the system dies which doesn't happen often or at least I hope it doesn't and when windows updates on feature updates.

Which is twice a year.

I need to deauth my itunes anyway every time to avoid issues so its not a big issue and it doesn't effect anything really.

Atguys are a good reseller anyway.

Now I would assume I'd have to deactivate every nvda update if things changed and since thats like every 3 months thats 6 times, and thats to many.

Plus I can use my voices for everything else.



On 6/02/2020 11:34 pm, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

Il 05/02/2020 15:52, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Maybe it will not possible...
So do you think that also Codefactory will have the same problems?
All expressive vocalizer users of NVDA, regardless of the reseller, will have to update manually the license, doing the procedure to cancel and reactivate?

I want to cry!




The encriptation and encoding process are different fron python 2 to python 3...


Rui Fontes


Às 10:53 de 05/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:
Hello,
if I have to be honest, I'm desperate about just this thing!
I wish that day would never come.
 From what I understand, it is necessary to cancel the old activation,
update NVDA and the Vocalizer driver and then reactivate it.
I really hope that things have improved, because if the license is not
renewed automatically, I foresee a disaster. There are many elderly
people who have no idea of ​​their credentials, as long as the
computer speaks. Set it up once and away.
Over the years someone has certainly lost the data, in short, I really
pray to Rui Fontes and the developers


to make renewal of the license as simple as possible.
ps: this message is translated on fly with google translate, hope it is clear.


2020-02-04 17:45 GMT+01:00, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>:
I’ve several Spanish-speaking friends with legal Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
voices, who when they want to upgrade their’s, it with NVDA2019.3 RC, a
dialogue about verifying license pops up, and I worry that it’ll happen here
at my end when the time comes to upgrade! What is recommended if this
arises?




Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10







.



NVDA no longer reading emails one line at a time

Clive Lever
 

Hello all,

 

I have noticed this morning that NVDA no longer reads my emails one line at a time. I can read the whole message from top to bottom using the NVDA key plus down arrow. But can’t get it to speak one line at a time by using the down arrow on its own anymore. This is a nuisance when looking for a link or a specific piece of text within a message. What’s to be done?

 

I’m using MS Outlook in Office 365, Windows 10 and latest NVDA. The problem may have started after I did a massive clear-out of unwanted emails.

 

Thanks in advance,

Clive

 

 


Re: Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer wanting to verify the license with new version?

Simone Dal Maso
 

Il 06/02/2020 12:00, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Well if you want to update windows you need to deactivate and reactivate anyway.
Yes, but a thing is for example changing the computer. You change pc, or you want to format, and you know that you should be very careful with your data and license.
Another thing is when your screen reader updates.
This operation is made 2 3 times in a year and users
make the operation without troubles or thoughts.
Users don't expect that the voices stop talking!

I don't know how we're going to handle this.









Its why I spent the extra cash and got the sapi licences last year.
True this meant I had to pay 185 dollars us for both synths eloquence and vocaliser, however the only time I need to deactivate is if the system dies which doesn't happen often or at least I hope it doesn't and when windows updates on feature updates.
Which is twice a year.
I need to deauth my itunes anyway every time to avoid issues so its not a big issue and it doesn't effect anything really.
Atguys are a good reseller anyway.
Now I would assume I'd have to deactivate every nvda update if things changed and since thats like every 3 months thats 6 times, and thats to many.
Plus I can use my voices for everything else.
On 6/02/2020 11:34 pm, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

Il 05/02/2020 15:52, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Maybe it will not possible...
So do you think that also Codefactory will have the same problems?
All expressive vocalizer users of NVDA, regardless of the reseller, will have to update manually the license, doing the procedure to cancel and reactivate?

I want to cry!




The encriptation and encoding process are different fron python 2 to python 3...


Rui Fontes


Às 10:53 de 05/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:
Hello,
if I have to be honest, I'm desperate about just this thing!
I wish that day would never come.
 From what I understand, it is necessary to cancel the old activation,
update NVDA and the Vocalizer driver and then reactivate it.
I really hope that things have improved, because if the license is not
renewed automatically, I foresee a disaster. There are many elderly
people who have no idea of ​​their credentials, as long as the
computer speaks. Set it up once and away.
Over the years someone has certainly lost the data, in short, I really
pray to Rui Fontes and the developers


to make renewal of the license as simple as possible.
ps: this message is translated on fly with google translate, hope it is clear.


2020-02-04 17:45 GMT+01:00, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>:
I’ve several Spanish-speaking friends with legal Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
voices, who when they want to upgrade their’s, it with NVDA2019.3 RC, a
dialogue about verifying license pops up, and I worry that it’ll happen here
at my end when the time comes to upgrade! What is recommended if this
arises?




Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10







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Re: facebook site?

enes sarıbaş
 

I figured out focus mode, but still need help with facebook.

On 2/6/2020 5:02 AM, enes sarıbaş via Groups.Io wrote:
hi,

Could someone please explain to me how they manage to use the facebook site with NVDA? This site makes me want to smash my keyboard from frustration. Especially the group search feature

In this site, browse mode enables itself automatically alot when it shouldn't, and NVDA jumps all over the page. Could someone also tell me how to disable automatic browse mode in NVDA?



Re: Windows Explorer

André
 

You can get different information about items in file explorer quiet
easily when you use the view option 'details'. For this, type 'Alt' + '
'V' to get to the view menu, and then 'd' to select the view mode 'details'.

When you are in this mode, then you can easily move between different
information (file name, last date of modification, file type, file size,
etc.) with the right and left arrow keys. Actually, you can think of
this view mode as a table, wh    ere every row stands for one item, and
every type of information for one column. So you use up and down arrows
to move between items, and left and right arrows to move between types
of information.

Cheers, Martin


On 06/02/2020 10:56, Pele West wrote:
Hi Everyone

I am using Windows 7 and the latest version of NVDA.

Is there a way to get NVDA to display more information about files and
folders in Windows Explorer? In Window-Eyes I have set it to display the
Length, Date Modified and Size but cannot see a way to amend NVDA to do
this.

Thanks

pele West



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facebook site?

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

Could someone please explain to me how they manage to use the facebook site with NVDA? This site makes me want to smash my keyboard from frustration. Especially the group search feature

In this site, browse mode enables itself automatically alot when it shouldn't, and NVDA jumps all over the page. Could someone also tell me how to disable automatic browse mode in NVDA?


Re: Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer wanting to verify the license with new version?

 

Well if you want to update windows you need to deactivate and reactivate anyway.

Its why I spent the extra cash and got the sapi licences last year.

True this meant I had to pay 185 dollars us for both synths eloquence and vocaliser, however the only time I need to deactivate is if the system dies which doesn't happen often or at least I hope it doesn't and when windows updates on feature updates.

Which is twice a year.

I need to deauth my itunes anyway every time to avoid issues so its not a big issue and it doesn't effect anything really.

Atguys are a good reseller anyway.

Now I would assume I'd have to deactivate every nvda update if things changed and since thats like every 3 months thats 6 times, and thats to many.

Plus I can use my voices for everything else.

On 6/02/2020 11:34 pm, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

Il 05/02/2020 15:52, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Maybe it will not possible...
So do you think that also Codefactory will have the same problems?
All expressive vocalizer users of NVDA, regardless of the reseller, will have to update manually the license, doing the procedure to cancel and reactivate?

I want to cry!




The encriptation and encoding process are different fron python 2 to python 3...


Rui Fontes


Às 10:53 de 05/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:
Hello,
if I have to be honest, I'm desperate about just this thing!
I wish that day would never come.
 From what I understand, it is necessary to cancel the old activation,
update NVDA and the Vocalizer driver and then reactivate it.
I really hope that things have improved, because if the license is not
renewed automatically, I foresee a disaster. There are many elderly
people who have no idea of ​​their credentials, as long as the
computer speaks. Set it up once and away.
Over the years someone has certainly lost the data, in short, I really
pray to Rui Fontes and the developers


to make renewal of the license as simple as possible.
ps: this message is translated on fly with google translate, hope it is clear.


2020-02-04 17:45 GMT+01:00, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>:
I’ve several Spanish-speaking friends with legal Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
voices, who when they want to upgrade their’s, it with NVDA2019.3 RC, a
dialogue about verifying license pops up, and I worry that it’ll happen here
at my end when the time comes to upgrade! What is recommended if this
arises?




Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10






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Re: Issue With NVDA 2019 RC 2 When Computer Boots

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

I suppose it is not the same problem but my experience might help to throw some light on your issue.
I had a problem with the voice settings with the new RC of NVDA in which I chose "Realtek Digital Output" as the output device. This worked for a while and then went silent and refused to speak when I booted the computer. I reset the output device to "Speakers (Realtek High Definition" and NVDA started speaking again and has not stopped since!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue With NVDA 2019 RC 2 When Computer Boots

Um there should be a log generated.

look at nvda old .log and send us all lines below nvda initialised.

If there is a traceback which there undoubtedly is it should show up here if it was at all logged.



On 6/02/2020 3:35 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

When I boot the computer, NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 seems to lock up or
unload. This issue did not occur in any previous version of NVDA
either stable or beta. I hear NVDA start and then it stops speaking.
I wait a minute or so and press some reading keys--such as insert + T
for title. With no speech, if I press the hotkey to start NVDA, it
starts. Is anyone else seeing this issue?


Re: Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer wanting to verify the license with new version?

Rui Fontes
 

Simone, I can't talk about CodeFactory driver, since I don't know it...


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 10:34 de 06/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:


Il 05/02/2020 15:52, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Maybe it will not possible...
So do you think that also Codefactory will have the same problems?
All expressive vocalizer users of NVDA, regardless of the reseller, will have to update manually the license, doing the procedure to cancel and reactivate?

I want to cry!




The encriptation and encoding process are different fron python 2 to python 3...


Rui Fontes


Às 10:53 de 05/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:
Hello,
if I have to be honest, I'm desperate about just this thing!
I wish that day would never come.
 From what I understand, it is necessary to cancel the old activation,
update NVDA and the Vocalizer driver and then reactivate it.
I really hope that things have improved, because if the license is not
renewed automatically, I foresee a disaster. There are many elderly
people who have no idea of ​​their credentials, as long as the
computer speaks. Set it up once and away.
Over the years someone has certainly lost the data, in short, I really
pray to Rui Fontes and the developers


to make renewal of the license as simple as possible.
ps: this message is translated on fly with google translate, hope it is clear.


2020-02-04 17:45 GMT+01:00, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>:
I’ve several Spanish-speaking friends with legal Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
voices, who when they want to upgrade their’s, it with NVDA2019.3 RC, a
dialogue about verifying license pops up, and I worry that it’ll happen here
at my end when the time comes to upgrade! What is recommended if this
arises?




Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10






Re: Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer wanting to verify the license with new version?

Simone Dal Maso
 

Il 05/02/2020 15:52, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Maybe it will not possible...
So do you think that also Codefactory will have the same problems?
All expressive vocalizer users of NVDA, regardless of the reseller, will have to update manually the license, doing the procedure to cancel and reactivate?

I want to cry!



The encriptation and encoding process are different fron python 2 to python 3...
Rui Fontes
Às 10:53 de 05/02/2020, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:
Hello,
if I have to be honest, I'm desperate about just this thing!
I wish that day would never come.
 From what I understand, it is necessary to cancel the old activation,
update NVDA and the Vocalizer driver and then reactivate it.
I really hope that things have improved, because if the license is not
renewed automatically, I foresee a disaster. There are many elderly
people who have no idea of ​​their credentials, as long as the
computer speaks. Set it up once and away.
Over the years someone has certainly lost the data, in short, I really
pray to Rui Fontes and the developers


to make renewal of the license as simple as possible.
ps: this message is translated on fly with google translate, hope it is clear.


2020-02-04 17:45 GMT+01:00, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>:
I’ve several Spanish-speaking friends with legal Tiflotecnia Vocalizer
voices, who when they want to upgrade their’s, it with NVDA2019.3 RC, a
dialogue about verifying license pops up, and I worry that it’ll happen here
at my end when the time comes to upgrade! What is recommended if this
arises?




Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10




Windows Explorer

Pele West
 

Hi Everyone

I am using Windows 7 and the latest version of NVDA.

Is there a way to get NVDA to display more information about files and
folders in Windows Explorer? In Window-Eyes I have set it to display the
Length, Date Modified and Size but cannot see a way to amend NVDA to do
this.

Thanks

pele West


Re: a question nvda2019.3rc3

P. Otter
 

ok, I'll try it.
thanks!
kind regards
paul otter


Op 6-2-2020 om 10:01 schreef Quentin Christensen:

I haven't used Revo uninstaller, but at a guess, given the (I'm guessing) purpose of the program - does Revo Uninstaller require admin privileges?  And are you running a portable copy of NVDA 2019.3rc3?  If yes to both of those, then it's (likely) just a limitation of the portable copy of NVDA, as per: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#PortableAndTemporaryCopyRestrictions

If you install the RC then it should work.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 7:07 PM P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
Hello all!
i'm wondering why is revo uninstaller not accessible anymore in
nvda2019.3rc3, that's the newest!
with nvda2019.2.1 there was no problem to access revo uninstaller.
is it possible to repair this problem?
thanks in advance
         paul otter





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager




Re: a question nvda2019.3rc3

Quentin Christensen
 

I haven't used Revo uninstaller, but at a guess, given the (I'm guessing) purpose of the program - does Revo Uninstaller require admin privileges?  And are you running a portable copy of NVDA 2019.3rc3?  If yes to both of those, then it's (likely) just a limitation of the portable copy of NVDA, as per: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#PortableAndTemporaryCopyRestrictions

If you install the RC then it should work.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 7:07 PM P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
Hello all!
i'm wondering why is revo uninstaller not accessible anymore in
nvda2019.3rc3, that's the newest!
with nvda2019.2.1 there was no problem to access revo uninstaller.
is it possible to repair this problem?
thanks in advance
         paul otter





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Re: NVDA 2019.3 RC 2 is released

Felix G.
 

eSpeak sounds better on Win 10? I don't notice any difference, and I
think that's good news as any difference would mean something is
seriously off.
Best,
Felix

Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 06:50 Uhr schrieb Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com>:


For the first one did you set the pitch to like 50 or so? You need to type in the edit box for that section. Also what synth are you using?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 5 Feb 2020, at 20:51, Sue J. Ward wrote:

Hello I am noticing a couple of issues when using this release. The first one the pitch is not going up when am going over a capital letter like it did in the old one and the second issue is every now and then I have to restart nvda to read either emails or something on a webpage it suddenly does not speak so I have to restart it again this happened to me at least three times today. Has anyone else experienced this. I know in the previous version I did not get anything like this. I hope whenever I am reading long documents it does not lock up on me. Over all it works quite well. Keep up the good work.
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Re: a question nvda2019.3rc3

Ian Blackburn
 

Yes and I had a problem with nvda not speaking anything that I typed into the search box on the start menu
With an update in windows that seem to fix it
I will try VLC media player Because I haven’t done it since I installed the latest release candidate
I check windows every day for updates in case there’s not something I missed
On 6 Feb 2020, at 4:21 pm, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
same seems to go for VLC, as I randomly discovered yesterday. May have
been a problem with my system though, so I'll double-check on another
machine.
Best,
Felix

Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 09:07 Uhr schrieb P. Otter <pam.otter@gmail.com>:

Hello all!
i'm wondering why is revo uninstaller not accessible anymore in
nvda2019.3rc3, that's the newest!
with nvda2019.2.1 there was no problem to access revo uninstaller.
is it possible to repair this problem?
thanks in advance
paul otter



Re: a question nvda2019.3rc3

Felix G.
 

Hi,
same seems to go for VLC, as I randomly discovered yesterday. May have
been a problem with my system though, so I'll double-check on another
machine.
Best,
Felix

Am Do., 6. Feb. 2020 um 09:07 Uhr schrieb P. Otter <pam.otter@gmail.com>:


Hello all!
i'm wondering why is revo uninstaller not accessible anymore in
nvda2019.3rc3, that's the newest!
with nvda2019.2.1 there was no problem to access revo uninstaller.
is it possible to repair this problem?
thanks in advance
paul otter



a question nvda2019.3rc3

P. Otter
 

Hello all!
i'm wondering why is revo uninstaller not accessible anymore in nvda2019.3rc3, that's the newest!
with nvda2019.2.1 there was no problem to access revo uninstaller.
is it possible to repair this problem?
thanks in advance
        paul otter


Re: In-Process and RC3 both out

 

To be honest, I'd like to add effects to voices like they did in sapi 4.



On 6/02/2020 8:13 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit I'm not across all the possibilities, but things like it will be easier to change the order of things which are spoken.  Whether that means we can add options so users can order everything the way they want, or just make it easier for developers to change things in code I'm not sure, but no doubt there will be more published on it.  I'll try and put something together for In-Process.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:02 PM William Wong <sine.kazurin@...> wrote:

Quentin and others.

 according the in-process "and the changes to speech allow for some exciting innovations in the near future. "

What are those innovations probably be?


Quentin Christensen 於 6/2/2020 4:38 寫道:
Good morning,

Two announcements from me this morning:


And one of the main things covered in it is the impending 2019.3 release, and in particular, the hot-off-the-press 2019.3 rc3 release which came out overnight: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc3-now-available-for-testing/ 

The main change in the latest RC is a fix to some of the translation strings.  If you are using NVDA in a language other than English, please try this RC and make sure everything is translated correctly.

And of course keep an eye out for any other issues with the RC and let us know!

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Training and Support Manager