Re: My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA
Cordelia Scharpf
Hi, Ollie:
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A search on the Internet for "patch" or "driver" for your Braille display and NVDA might expedite it. If there is nothing, then contacting them would be more than necessary as this is an urgent matter. May I contact you offlist about Linux-related queries? Cordially, Cordelia
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2020 12:08 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA Hello Cordelia, Thanks. I'lltry and contact them, but I had no luck a couple of years ago about some other issue I had, so I'm afraid it's goingto be a bit of a waste of time. Touchme5 works great in Linux, so I might try and see if installing BRLTTY for Windows solvesthe problem, at least temorarily. Take care, Ollie On 07/02/2020 22:50, Cordelia Scharpf wrote: Hi, Ollie:
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Re: Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan
Just about every antimalware program has this false positive.
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Kaspersky and a few others are supposed to be better. Anyway what I actually said was that these programs at least some of them detect more false than well who knows. I have never got a virus in the last 10 years but I have got a lot of false alarms. Not sure about win8 etc, but yes you can exclude stuff you know is not a problem. It would be good actually if you excluded the file you could report all your excluded files to the maker like microsoft and for each you could state what it was, etc and maybe get support on it. The issue I have and maybe others, is that while some of the stuff we know about, I spend more time stopping false alarms than actual viruses. I am not sure if thats a good or bad thing but its certainly stopped me from getting any serious security software. If windows defender and malwarebytes cause this much trouble with a false positive, then I really don't want to know what a really good antivirus will say. But basically everything on your system is a potential virus depending on the detections and stuff used. And with the cloud based ai, I doubt that at the automated level there is much control. If you tell them they will fix the issue but there is no reason to think it will stay fixed. As a result all the false alarms make the display of the software noisy. As I said, right now I have so many security holes in my computer caused by so many folder excludes that if it wasn't for ransomware, I have half a mind to exclude my entire hard drive or even disable the windows security subsystem. However there is always the if factor so I don't. I havn't run any full system scans in the last 10 years, and I havn't run any malware software in the last 5 years simply because of this issue. With the so called inteligent stuff about bgt and maybe some older software excluded, it seems that every software package needs a security certification id or something and while it would be nice to get one, I do wander if I could get one myself for the purpose that the software I have is not a problem or something. I know some say I am just unlucky, but on all my other systems with out blind games, blind software and blind accessible programs there are no trogens at all and that in itself is a concern, no excludes on any of my other systems yet. Maybe I may exclude nvda just because I am concerned but still, maybe I have over excluded because of all this going on.
On 8/02/2020 7:18 pm, zahra wrote:
Shaun,
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Re: Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan
Shaun,
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did i understand it correctly? i think that antivirus programs especially microsoft products, scan the entire system and maybe remove our necessary and important files even maybe nvda or even other files including html, docx, audio and video files? i remember that in one of the iranian websites, someone recorded a tutorial which explained how to exclude our desired folders from scanning by deffender. his tutorial was for windows ten. does windows deffender on windows 8 and 8.1 does the same things, and it may removes our essential and important files without worning or informing us about this matter?
On 2/8/20, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah some of that software uses autoit and that is known to make viruses. --
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Re: Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan
Yeah some of that software uses autoit and that is known to make viruses. At any rate its clunkey and slow as a language so I wouldn't bother using programs written in it but you should be able to exclude things. Yeah when microsoft security etc cleans things it turns user account control on at 33% by default.
On 8/02/2020 3:41 am, Ron Canazzi
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Hi Quenton,
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Re: Windows defender marking NVDA a trojan
I don't mind the occasional false positive, but here is the thing. The following programs are currently trogens. Virtual recorder, ok so I could use something else but I like it. Textpal and all the older empowermentzone programs but some have been updated. All bgt games, we sort of know why so maybe I will cut them a little slack with this one except that you need to do the same excludes to malwarebytes. Some gmagames, and vb6 games, why is unknown. The bsc stuff.
Yeah I know half of this is really old software but still. That list is not huge but its enough for me not to trust things. Now its expanded to nvda and who knows what else. Its like the story about that boy that cried wolf. I no longer believe that what my antivirus software is telling me is true. So I just exclude the file. I in fact have a different downloads folder for stuff that doesn't run nicely. Here is the thing, any certified software seems to have a good time with it, that includes microsoft's own software. Everything else has the potential to be wrongly recognised as something. In the beginning I could trust the programs I used, a few of my friends and I have the same issue, true, some of my friends take risks I do not. Sadly how to know if it is or not is unknown. To put it bluntly now I know that a lot of stuff is targeted it tends to make my scanner very noisy. I know that at least 100 files and folders on my drive will be misdetected. I have had it where documents and some audio is a virus, granted those files didn't work and I replaced them so who knows, however, not much to tell if I have this noise. Otherwise I actually agree with you in fact thats what it was like from 2000-2010 or there abouts. Suddenly stuff that worked no longer worked. Its the inconsistancy I just do not understand or in fact like. I agree at least I don't get a misdetection of an actual virus, but how would I know. Every time I get a new program, its either a trogen because the virus checker says it is or its not. Bgt stuff with their packed files are always false so I exclude them once I have the structure of the files. Its why a lot of devs are moving to python probably helped by the fact nvda is written in it and everyone wants to see what it can do. To be honest the only thing one can use is virustotal and I really wish I could have virustotal as my virus scanner of choice and protection system because it uses more than 1 source. With fibre and the like it should be possible. I have also had inconsistancies with scanners and with some scans. Ie its protection scan says its not but its shield says it is. Its not happened to me but I don't take risks, I do know people on some of my networks who need to make sure they always have a backup. If something goes down and you don't know, system doesn't reboot, so you just make it boot and you know what I mean. Point is, if my scanner of choice is so noisy, I'm going to have to do something about it. That means excluding the programs from being scanned. If I was a hacker, my first port of call would be the exclude list and see what is excluded and oh dear, there you go. I don't have my backup drives on all day long but still. Its a pitty there is no actual exclusion list for certain things, obviously a universal one would be to huge but, still. There is of course the tear it all down and build it back up approach but its just about the only approach if it really goes. I could say its not good enough but there you go. Round and round and round we will go till one of us stops. This topic and rant has graced many lists and forums, my blog, the blog a tech friend and I use and others. The solution is that there isn't exactly one that really works we just have to keep dodging bullets and hoping we don't screw something up by excluding the wrong folder. I for example will probably keep old nvda about so at least things will work and exclude it from being scanned just in case. But its a poor solution. I think its supposed to be fixed so lets hope it is.
On 8/02/2020 3:23 am, Brian Vogel
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 05:04 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
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Re: Alpine and Pico (fwd)
Tyler Spivey
It takes about a minute of trying alpine to realize I can navigate in flat review sometimes, but moving to the bottom does something weird and puts me back at the top. And this time, flat review didn't work.
My guess is it's using an API that NVDA doesn't support in flat review, or it's being used weirdly so NVDA has a hard time picking it up.
The best course of action from here would be to report it as an
issue on the NVDA tracker. Noone can do anything about it unless
they know about it.
On 2/7/2020 3:01 PM, Jason White via
Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA
Mallard
Hello Cordelia,
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Thanks. I'lltry and contact them, but I had no luck a couple of years ago about some other issue I had, so I'm afraid it's goingto be a bit of a waste of time. Touchme5 works great in Linux, so I might try and see if installing BRLTTY for Windows solvesthe problem, at least temorarily. Take care, Ollie
On 07/02/2020 22:50, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:
Hi, Ollie:
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Re: Alpine and Pico (fwd)
Jason White
If you can run it in a terminal, the recently improved console support for NVDA (coming in 2019.3) may make the experience better.
I haven’t used Pine/Alpine for a very long time indeed. At some point I switched to Mutt, and found it to be preferable – at least as a text-based email client.
From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Arlene <nedster66@...>
Not sure if they made any developments for windows. I know it is or still is used for Linux.
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From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: February 7, 2020 9:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] 3rd Request for Assistance
How well does Alpine work for Windows? I believe I tried it and its predecessor Pine and it wasn't very accessible.
On 2/7/2020 12:31 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: > Hi and thanks for the response. > > I am using it on Windows 7 and Windows 10 on two different computers. > Alpine version is 2.20. > > I invoke Alpine from the Windows command line and not through a > terminal program. > > Chris > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, Tyler Spivey via Groups.Io wrote: > >> What version of alpine are you running, on what operating system? Are >> you using it through a terminal program or native? >> >> >> On 2/7/2020 9:12 AM, Christopher Gray wrote: >>> Hi: >>> >>> I've asked for some assistance about the issue below twice now, >>> once last >>> June, again Wednesday. If there is a better list or means of >>> asking than >>> this list, just let me know that. >>> >>> I could be wrong but this really shouldn't be a difficult issue to >>> diagnose. Alpine and Pico both worked quite well with Cobra and >>> Window-Eyes. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 16:52:30 +0000 >>> From: Christopher Gray via Groups.Io <chris@...> >>> Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>> To: NVDA Mailing List <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>> Subject: [nvda] Alpine and Pico (fwd) >>> >>> Hello: >>> >>> I brought up the issue below last June but aside from some related >>> discussion never got anywhere about using this software on Windows >>> with >>> NVDA. I really need some assistance with this issue to make a full >>> transition to NVDA. >>> >>> Software is alpine for Windows and Pico, also for Windows. It is not >>> exactly that the software doesn't work at all, but it only partly >>> works. >>> For example, in editing a message, I can usually get speech in the >>> text, >>> but there is no braille. Sometimes while editing, when I move down >>> line >>> by line I get no text, but I do get text moving up line by line after >>> moving down. In the menu of messages, I can't see the messages at >>> all. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 17:33:26 +0000 >>> From: Christopher Gray via Groups.Io <chris@...> >>> Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>> To: NVDA Mailing List <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>> Subject: [nvda] Alpine and Pico >>> >>> Hi: >>> >>> I use two fairly old pieces of software: the Alpine email client; the >>> Pico text >>> editor. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to get this >>> software to >>> work >>> with NVDA. It only shows a blank screen for me. >>> >>> Pico is particularly portable and I'm betting that the two programs >>> have >>> the >>> same screen issues since they were written by the same source. I >>> haven't >>> attached it here but sending it via email should be very simple. >>> >>> Is there a way I can try to diagnose this? Or, might somebody be >>> willing >>> to >>> look at this who knows more about thwat they are doing? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> **************************************** >>> Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri >>> Council >>> of the Blind in >>> your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help >>> you >>> with this. >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> Christopher Gray, Executive Director >>> Missouri Council of the Blind >>> >>> 5453 Chippewa >>> St. Louis, MO 63109 >>> Phone: (314) 832-7172 >>> Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 >>> Fax: (314) 832-7796 >>> >>> Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? >>> Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global >>> Voice, >>> Chris and Don. >>> Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. >>> Pacific >>> Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. >>> Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to >>> Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. >>> You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! >>> Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > **************************************** > Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri > Council of the Blind in > your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help > you with this. > > ---------------------------------------- > Christopher Gray, Executive Director > Missouri Council of the Blind > > 5453 Chippewa > St. Louis, MO 63109 > Phone: (314) 832-7172 > Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 > Fax: (314) 832-7796 > > Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? > Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global > Voice, Chris and Don. > Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. > Pacific > Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. > Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to > Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. > You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! > Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio. > > >
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Re: My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA
Cordelia Scharpf
Hi, Ollie:
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I don't know/use the Seika Braile display. However, you might ask its manufacturer if they have released a new patch that would be compatible with the new NVDA software. If they have not done so yet, it is high time to alert them of this problem and see it fixed. Best of luck, Cordelia
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 10:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA Hello all, I'm using NVDA Alphas. For qite some time now, my Seika Touchme5 no longer works as expected. I'm unable to scroll horizontally, whetehr I set it to Automatic or Seika. Are tehre any tips to make this work? I have to use an old and battered pm 40 by freedom Scientific, which has a number of cells with dots that either don't come up or don't go down when needed. This makes it really difficult to read in different languages. thanks for any help ou can provide. Ciao, Ollie
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My Seika Touchme5 no longer works with NVDA
Mallard
Hello all,
I'm using NVDA Alphas. For qite some time now, my Seika Touchme5 no longer works as expected. I'm unable to scroll horizontally, whetehr I set it to Automatic or Seika. Are tehre any tips to make this work? I have to use an old and battered pm 40 by freedom Scientific, which has a number of cells with dots that either don't come up or don't go down when needed. This makes it really difficult to read in different languages. thanks for any help ou can provide. Ciao, Ollie
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Re: Alpine and Pico (fwd)
Dan Beaver
Maybe none of us have any experience with them? I tend not to answer if I know nothing about a subject. Not meaning to ignore just nothing to contribute.
Dan Beaver On 2/7/2020 12:12 PM, Christopher Gray
wrote:
Hi: -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: NVDA not coming on when I start the computer
Arlene
Betsy, here’s a tip I can give you. If NVDA doesn’t start up like it should. You start it up. Then go to where you create your hot key. If it’s unchecked. Then check it again. Then restart the computer and if it starts up like it should. You are in the chips. Or you can unload NVDA and reload it using the hot key.
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From: Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: February 7, 2020 7:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not coming on when I start the computer
Until the latest update, NVDA would start speaking as soon as it is loaded once the laptop is completely on. Now I seem to have to do the command as if I was wanting to restart NVDA. I do not know how else to explain this.
On 2/7/2020 9:34 AM, Vaibhav Bhandari wrote: > Could you explain further what did you mean by "Your laptop is no > longer coming up with speech with the latest update of NVDA?" I was > unable to understand the problem. > > On 2/7/20, Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> wrote: >> I believe I remember this topic coming up recently but must have missed >> the response. My laptop is no longer coming up with speech with the >> latest update of NVDA. I am wondering if Microsoft Teams is the problem >> but do not know how to get rid of that program or what it is even for. >> It started coming up when I started using Windows 10. Are there any >> solutions to getting rid of it and if that is not causing the problem >> what can I do to fix NVDA not coning up on its own. >> >> >> Thanks so much. At least there is a workaround by restarting NVDA but I >> know it should not work this way. >> >> >> >> -- >> Betsy Grenevitch >> 678-862-3876 >> >> >> >> >> > -- Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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Re: NVDA not coming on when I start the computer
Arlene
Yes, often when you beta test publicly and if you update. Sometimes startup becomes unchecked. I’ve seen it with NVDA and other screen reader.
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From: Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: February 7, 2020 7:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not coming on when I start the computer
I figured it out. I guess when the update took place it set it not to turn on NVDA when the computer is starting. It is working now.
On 2/7/2020 9:55 AM, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:
-- Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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Re: Alpine and Pico (fwd)
Christopher Gray wrote, at 12:32 PM today, " I invoke Alpine from the Windows command line and not through a terminal program."
Don't blame me if I take you at your word. With this, I'm done. If you want to continue to engage in putting good effort after bad, have at it. Common sense dictates finding different products. You can lead a horse to water . . . -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Windows Explorer
Gene
Looking at it using object navigation and speech,
the information appears to be in a line below the file or foldername. Each
piece of information is a different object. I don't know how you move by
object using a Braille display, Using Speech, I move down to the child
window, numpad insert, numpad 2, while I am on the name. I can then move
by object to the right and see all the items.
Of course, I can right arrow and hear the
information while on the file name, using the main keyboard arrow keys but you
evidently need another way and I would think object navigation can be
used.
Gene
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Thanks for writing. I am still on Windows 7 but due to upgrade to Windows 10 shortly. I can find out the information using Left and Right Arrow, but I have not found a way of getting the information to appear across my braille display. I am using Detail View and have the Tool Tips turned on. Pele
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Re: Say product name and version compatible with Python3
Hello Patrick, Thanks for the update of the add-on! It was one of the ones that I was going to miss with NVDA 2019.3, but now I don't have to worry at least for it (smile). I do a lot of program testing and getting a program's version
number easy and quickly is very useful to me. ______ На 7.2.2020 г. в 18:41, Patrick ZAJDA
via Groups.Io написа:
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Re: Alpine and Pico (fwd)
Christopher Gray
Brian:
There are too many inaccuracies in your thinking on this issue. We're talking about a Windows-based program, not a command line program. You are confusilng Pine for Linux with Alpine for Windows. On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, Brian Vogel via Groups.Io wrote: The assertion that Windows ports are easily sourced, let alone actively maintained has already been refuted by others. Your mission should be findings replacements. It's that simple.**************************************** Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this. ---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, Executive Director Missouri Council of the Blind 5453 Chippewa St. Louis, MO 63109 Phone: (314) 832-7172 Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 Fax: (314) 832-7796 Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don. Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.
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Re: Alpine and Pico (fwd)
Christopher Gray
Alpine is extremely accessible under Windows. There are 2 or 3 settings you must change, otherwise it's excellent.
Chris On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, Ron Canazzi via Groups.Io wrote: How well does Alpine work for Windows? I believe I tried it and its predecessor Pine and it wasn't very accessible.**************************************** Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this. ---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, Executive Director Missouri Council of the Blind 5453 Chippewa St. Louis, MO 63109 Phone: (314) 832-7172 Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 Fax: (314) 832-7796 Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don. Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.
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Re: Alpine and Pico (fwd)
Christopher Gray
As I said before, there is a Windows version.
Chris On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, Arlene via Groups.Io wrote: You’d probably have to ask the developer to somehow develop a windows**************************************** Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this. ---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, Executive Director Missouri Council of the Blind 5453 Chippewa St. Louis, MO 63109 Phone: (314) 832-7172 Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 Fax: (314) 832-7796 Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don. Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.
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Re: Alpine and Pico (fwd)
Christopher Gray
Hi Ben:
I appreciate your willingness to help. I can probably send you the install software you need and will check on this, perhaps writing you off list if that's ok. I don't think this is a hard job or an unreasonable request for this reason. Developers at both Virgo/Cobra and Window-Eyes did have to accommodate Alpine and Pico many years back. In both cases, the developers there told me this was a trivial fix/change and took less than an hour to implement. Of course, things could be different today in NVDA's means of doing things. However, I still don't think it is unreasonable to ask that this at least be examined. Chris On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, ben via Groups.Io wrote: Hi Chris,**************************************** Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this. ---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, Executive Director Missouri Council of the Blind 5453 Chippewa St. Louis, MO 63109 Phone: (314) 832-7172 Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 Fax: (314) 832-7796 Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don. Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.
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