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Re: help with outlook 2013

Brian Moore
 

well, i have 2016 but could work it out if no one comes back with a response.

I suspect it is basically the same in 2013 and 2016

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On 11/03/2016 4:24 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:

Hey everyone, I have my outlook 2013 and I want to set up my email, like email account and server settings, do you guys know the shortcut keys using the keyboard for outlook so I can get into those settings?



Re: n v d a name change

Misty Dawn Bradley <mistydbradley@...>
 

I agree. I always thought of the D for desktop in NVDA as being a desktop computer rather than the desktop on the computer screen itself, so I think the name still applies accurately. I think it is a tad bit shorter too than NVWA as far as saying it.
Misty

On 3/11/2016 4:38 PM, Darren Duff wrote:
I say keep it as is.

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On 3/11/2016 2:31 PM, Pete wrote:

The desk top in newer versions of Microsoft windows is some thing m s seems to be trying to get rid of leaving us all with a start screen. A name change from n v d a might be in order. May be some thing like non visual windows access n v w a. Just putting this out to hear what n v d a users think.
Pete






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Re: n v d a name change

Roger Stewart
 

Keep it as is! My desktop hasn't gone anywhere in Win 10. I have it running very much as it did in Win 7.

Roger

On 3/11/2016 3:38 PM, Darren Duff wrote:
I say keep it as is.

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On 3/11/2016 2:31 PM, Pete wrote:

The desk top in newer versions of Microsoft windows is some thing m s seems to be trying to get rid of leaving us all with a start screen. A name change from n v d a might be in order. May be some thing like non visual windows access n v w a. Just putting this out to hear what n v d a users think.
Pete






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Re: n v d a name change

 

agree
leave it the way it is

On 3/11/2016 2:38 PM, Darren Duff wrote:
I say keep it as is.

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On 3/11/2016 2:31 PM, Pete wrote:

The desk top in newer versions of Microsoft windows is some thing m s seems to be trying to get rid of leaving us all with a start screen. A name change from n v d a might be in order. May be some thing like non visual windows access n v w a. Just putting this out to hear what n v d a users think.
Pete






Re: n v d a name change

Darren Duff <duff379@...>
 

I say keep it as is.

Darren Duff.

Host of the Duff Domain on http://www.95-the-mix.com

amateur radio station KK4AHX.

Follow me on twitter @darren_duff

friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/DarrenLDuff.

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On 3/11/2016 2:31 PM, Pete wrote:

The desk top in newer versions of Microsoft windows is some thing m s seems to be trying to get rid of leaving us all with a start screen. A name change from n v d a might be in order. May be some thing like non visual windows access n v w a. Just putting this out to hear what n v d a users think.
Pete




help with outlook 2013

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hey everyone, I have my outlook 2013 and I want to set up my email, like email account and server settings, do you guys know the shortcut keys using the keyboard for outlook so I can get into those settings?


Re: n v d a name change

kenny Peyatt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

That sounds like a good idea. But I think that non visiual desktop access is a great name for now.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:31 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] n v d a name change


The desk top in newer versions of Microsoft windows is some thing m s
seems to be trying to get rid of leaving us all with a start screen. A
name change from n v d a might be in order. May be some thing like non
visual windows access n v w a. Just putting this out to hear what n v d
a users think.
Pete


n v d a name change

Pete <emac00@...>
 

The desk top in newer versions of Microsoft windows is some thing m s seems to be trying to get rid of leaving us all with a start screen. A name change from n v d a might be in order. May be some thing like non visual windows access n v w a. Just putting this out to hear what n v d a users think.
Pete


Re: Hide quoted messages

Gene
 

Perhaps not.  I don't have the original any longer and I didn't have it at the time.  I may not have remembered correctly.  . 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hide quoted messages

   I haven't changed the subject line as far as I know.




Re: Java Access Bridge

Pete <emac00@...>
 

I received the same after updating java one time so recopied the access bridge. Note for 32 bit windows only there is the access bridge d l l file with out the 32 in it to go in to the system32 folder.


Re: Hide quoted messages?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

It's nice to have a reminder. I think quoting the message prolongs and some times side tracks the topic of the thread.


Re: Hide quoted messages

Pete <emac00@...>
 

I haven't changed the subject line as far as I know.


Re: Hide quoted messages?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

sure thing


Re: Hide quoted messages?

Gene
 

A perfect example of what happens when people don't quote previous material and don't indicate what they are talking about.  It is not possible to know what the below message is referring to nor whose message is being responded to.  Is it me?  Is it someone else that explained something? 
 
I see exactly the same problem on another list where one or two people don't quote material and don't indicate what they are referring to. 
 
If people are going to not quote previous material, they have to be aware that they must make clear what they are referring to in their messages. 
 
Perhaps since the list hasn't received one message from even one list member on a metered account approving the suggested change, that may mean that the reason given for initially making this change is not important to such users.  It may also mean that such users just haven't responded yet but it's interesting that almost twelve hours have gone by without one such response.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Hide quoted messages?

Hmmm, seems like a good explanation.



Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,
Gmail does not clip messages in standard view unless you are reading the summery in the message view.
If you press enter, you need to press nvda+space to exit edit mode and then read your message. Then you need to press backspace to get back into your inbox. This is one more key command and uses the right hand when pressing shift+enter will only require you to keep the right hand by the arrow keys. It also pops you into brows mode so you don't need to do it.
Firefox has this silly bug where a window will start saying "unknown" after you have used it for a while. I would rather my email say that than the inbox.
Thanks,

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Lenron <lenron93@...> wrote:
also I am wondering if this way stops gmail from clipping your message
if its very long.

On 3/10/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I don't use GMail but I listened to a little of the tutorial and, as I
> recall, the person says to use shift enter to open the message in a new
> window.  That is a good procedure and it's worth doing in a lot of other
> instances as well.  By opening the message in a new window, you can return
> to where you were before on the other page simpley by closing the Window
> with alt f4.  You won't loose your place because the other window was always
> opened and you are simply returning to it.  I use the command routinely when
> I know I want to return to a previous page and resume where I left off.  For
> example, when I'm on a newspaper page, I use the command to follow a link to
> read an article.  I can then return to the previous page by closing the new
> window and never lose my place.  I'm on the link I followed.
>
> I use it when following search results on a Google page.  I may want to look
> at numerous results and this makes it much more convenient to look at a
> result and then return to the results page.
>
> I didn't realize the importance of this procedure for quite some time after
> I started using the Internet.  the importance of it should be emphasized
> when teaching blind people to use the Internet.  it isn't.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:24 PM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> I downloaded the mp3 version of Brandon Biggs' tutorial on NVDA with
> Gmail and I have some doubts regarding that.
>
> 1.  In what way(s) is/are the standard view better than basic html view?
>
> 2.  What's the difference between opening a mail and opening a mail in
> a new window?
>
> Thanks and regards.
>
>
> On 3/10/16, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I use
>> https://obsproject.com/
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon <
>> supanut2000@...> wrote:
>>
>>>     Hi,
>>> What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is
>>> visible, I'd assume you use a screen recording program.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> కాకర్ల నాగేశ్వరయ్య
>
> K. Nageswaraiah
>
>
>
>


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Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

William Brandes
 

hi. fyi. you can find more useful information/help on using
broadcaster on the youtube website ... william


Re: Hide quoted messages?

 

Hmmm, seems like a good explanation.



Re: Hide quoted messages?

 

I have been trying to figure out how groups.io attempts to hide quoted material in the web interface, because some do have all or some part of bottom quoted material hidden by a blue bar with an ellipsis in it (very much like the notation used by Gmail).   It appears that it is built to trigger the hiding on the line often used at the start of quoted messages that reads, "On <insert date here> <author name> wrote:" or "Original Message."  When one of these two things preface the quoted message it does a really good job of hiding the entire message.  If it finds, "From" without either of the previous lines it seems to hide the header block of "From" through "Subject" only but displays the quoted message body.

My guess based on analyzing what gets hidden currently versus what doesn't is that a "least aggressive hiding" approach is being used for bottom-quoted material when a couple of trigger phrases are not seen that typically get generated by e-mail programs/interfaces themselves.  Perhaps a "most aggressive hiding" strategy where anything that would occur subsequent to, "On <date> <author> wrote:," "Original Message," or "From" [when it's encountered the second time in a message] might achieve full hiding of all quoted material.  (Talk about programming minutiae!!  It is, however, on topic).

Brian


Java Access Bridge

Chris Mullins
 

hi

This is what to look out for when Java access bridge doesn’t install properly.

 

This is an excerpt from my NVDA Log (logging level set to Info) after the WindowsAccessBridge-32.dll was not installed in my Windows\SysWow64 folder after I ran the Java 8 version 73 update.

 

display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (11:07:42):

Braille input initialized

WARNING - core.main (11:07:42):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - core.main (11:08:00):

NVDA initialized

 

 

I re-ran the Java update and it worked the second time.

 

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:32:07):

Braille input initialized

INFO - core.main (13:32:08):

NVDA initialized

 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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Re: Hide quoted messages?

Gene
 

I suspect that efficient Internet navigation techniques would solve the problem.  My guess, and I haven't looked specifically, is that the word subject appears in every quoted message.  As I recall, the word subject is shown along with the subject line.  Thus, using the find command on the web page and searching for the word subject, you could jump from quoted message to quoted message. 
 
Did you see my message about the excerpt of my Internet tutorial I have made available?  This is just the kind of situation I attempt to prepare users for.  I stress, repeatedly, how using logic and inference can allow people to figure out ways to easily navigate web pages that have no predefined structures intended to help with navigation. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Hide quoted messages?

Well, of course if people send messages using email clients/email services, the quoted messages would be there, but if a feature could be implemented in groups.io where a user could choose to hide quoted messages. Or, at least groups.io should convert the subject of each messages in a thread when viewed online to heading levels, thereby making navigation easier as one could use the h key to jump to the next message without arrowing down through long quoted messages.