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Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Quentin Christensen
 

According to  https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/nvdapy3.en.html
Clipspeak has been updated, and Audio themes is in the process of being updated.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 4:53 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi list. Is there any updates to clipspeak and audio themes?

 

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From: Andrew Martinez
Sent: February 10, 2020 9:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Greedings to the Nvda community, was wondering if there will be an update for the nvdaremote addon, and eloquence addon?

Thank you for any information.

 

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Is CodeFactory SAPI Eloquence compatible with 2019/3

Jeff Samco
 

I'm on NVDA 2019.2 and use the CodeFactory SAPI voices. Do I need to update Eloquence to work with the new 2019.3 version of NVDA? If so, please give details.
Thanks,
Jeff

Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Arlene
 

Hi list. Is there any updates to clipspeak and audio themes?

 

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From: Andrew Martinez
Sent: February 10, 2020 9:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Greedings to the Nvda community, was wondering if there will be an update for the nvdaremote addon, and eloquence addon?

Thank you for any information.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 
text frame

Shaun Everiss
 

Hi.

Whenever I am mucking about on websites, I get these group things and this thing called text frame.

What use are these?

Also how to make them go away?

I found how to stop groups, but not text frame, I don't want text frame going on while brousing the web it may have some use other places neither do I want to have section header announced all the time either.

I view a lot of blogs and twitter and this is a bit anoying.

It obviously has its place I just don't want it when brousing the net.
Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Andrew,

There will be an update for NVDA Remote, I don't know exactly when that will be out however.

For Eloquence, if you go to https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/ and under the "Get the app" link the first download (the beta version) is the one which is compatible with 2019.3.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 4:03 PM Andrew Martinez <Andrewmartinez415019@...> wrote:

Greedings to the Nvda community, was wondering if there will be an update for the nvdaremote addon, and eloquence addon?

Thank you for any information.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



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Re: Alternatives to quickly change between voices and/or synths?

Alina
 

I use this add-on too, so thanks for the link.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16

On 10/02/2020 22:10, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:

https://github.com/tspivey/switchSynth/releases/download/v1.03/switchSynth-1.03.nvda-addon

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Montag, 10. Februar 2020 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Alternatives to quickly change between voices and/or synths?

 

I’ve always with NVDA, because I’m dulingual, have used the Switch Synth AddOn, which isn’t yet compatible with NVDA 2019.3, for via a keystroke switching be using Vocalizer, or ViaVoice, switch quickly between the English or Spanish voice. I tried setting up a profile that’d allow me to do this, but it doesn’t work as I’d like it to, for instance 1 for ViaVoice LatinAmerican Spanish, 2 for American English etc; like I have it set it up with SwitchSynth now. What alternative do you guys have, and will they make the SwitchSynth AddOn compatible? If I do update to the latest NVDA, I plan to continue using (hopefully it’s compatible with the latest version) Synth ring settings selector, however what I don’t like about this one is that when in ViaVoice, you switch to American english, the speed is the same as in the Latin American Spanish; I’d like to have it a little bit slower for English than Spanish. Thanks for any info you guys might have on this matter.

 

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Re: Donation Too nerve wracking

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Ok, well from all the conversation, it looks like regardless of what we thought of the donation form, it might be worth reviewing.  Thanks for all your comments!

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:41 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi gene


Correction for the download page after you pick your amount and enter it in you need to go to the download button then it will pop up a page to in my case pay pal to donate after I have signed in.


So am guessing it is all right there.


Seems to be on the donate page either through the screen reader or on the website.


Gene nz


On 11/02/2020 3:17 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi Gene


It looks as though there are different results depending which way you go in.


For example from the screen reader and I think the donate link on there website it shows buttons and it is the one off donation when it takes you to another page you can not edit.


But if you look say under the down load link page they show as radio buttons and if you pick one off donation it will let you edit the amount to donate but then nothing after that even if you press the enter key there does not seem to be even a button there to do that.


i can see why people are having problems.


I reported the other 2 to quenton but when he replies also add in the one from the down load page which reports differently.


you can have a sus to see what I mean.


Gene nz


On 11/02/2020 2:54 pm, Gene wrote:
I don't know what part of the form you are working with.  if you start with the donate form on the page that discusses downloading and askks users to donate, they are radio buttons.  But I don't know where you are looking.  and I can move through them with r.
 
Are you on a page you get to after you follow the download button and are on the page where you continue after making your selection on the first page? 
 
Gene
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Donation Too nerve wracking

Hi Gene


NVA says they are buttons not radio buttons so can be skipped down by the letter B


If you then say pick one that you can donate to monthly mine is setup to do with pay pal which I think was one of the options then just a matter of signing in and paying that way.


I see where the problem comes in is a once off donation when it takes you to the next screen you can not edit the amount so most people would stop there and go no further If i did say then go to donate i would be guessing it was the 200 not the lets say 10 bucks.


I would not go any further so no donation that way.


Gene nz


On 11/02/2020 1:27 pm, Gene wrote:
One thing I haven't examined yet fully, but which I think is the case from what I looked at, is that if someone tabs through the radio buttons, which they shouldn't do on an unfamiliar form, only the radio button will be announced and not the associated text.  Someone who knows how to work with forms well won't find this a problem but a lot of blind people don't know how to work with forms well.  If this were changed, it would make it easier for those who aren't good at filling out forms. 
 
That still doesn't tell people if they are in the one time donation or the recurring donation part of the form.  The only way I can see as I think about it now, though there may be others, is to have the form divided with links telling people what they will be working with. 
In other words, at the start of the form, a link would say something like click here to make a one time donation.  On the line below, there would be a link that says click here to make a monthly donation.
As things are now, these parts of the form are on the same page with text telling people where they are.  But a lot of blind people tab through a form or through most of it.  That is, I believe, the result of poor instruction or of people just picking things up as they go. 
 
The form designers need to decide if they want to help people learn to use forms with instructions and keeping the form as it is, or if they want to make the form useable by people who just tab through everything.
 
Earlier, I said that the form should not be dumbed down.  But on reflection, I'll say that it depends on what the designers want to do, to educate in that context or make something so easy to use that it takes nothing but tabbing.
 
Gene
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Donation Too nerve wracking

Please explain how the form is badly designed. It can't be simpler.

You need to select what type of donation you want. Either you have a set of radio buttons on the Download page, or a set of buttons on the donate page.


On 2/10/2020 2:46 PM, James Bentley wrote:

I’m not certain as to who is saying the phrase, “kiss of death” but I agree.

 

It took me well over a year to finally finally set up a small monthly donation to NVDA.  I wonder how many dollars are not getting where they need to go because of a combination of persons with less PC skills and apparently, a web designer or, at least the form designer also having less skills.

 

We need NVDA to grow world wide so more persons will have free access to NVDA.

 

I use Jaws and Narrator too but, NVDA needs to prosper.  I hope some one will fix this unnecessary complicated process.

 

Regards,

 

James B

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 3:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Donation Too nerve wracking

 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 04:34 PM, Jackie wrote:

The problem is that too many, I think assume a lack of skill, when at least part of the problem may indeed be due to implementation.

And, in this case, it seems to be a combination of both, which is often the absolute kiss of death.
 
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questions for Newest nvda update.

Andrew Martinez <Andrewmartinez415019@...>
 

Greedings to the Nvda community, was wondering if there will be an update for the nvdaremote addon, and eloquence addon?

Thank you for any information.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: Problem with NVDA 19.3 and Outlook 2010

Quentin Christensen
 

Yep, you can send any logs to info@... (along with a description so I know what it's about).

Also as you've just updated, make sure you have restarted the computer and can still replicate it after that as something things can go a bit funny in that period between updating and restarting.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:46 AM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


There has been another lady on another list with the same version you have also say the same thing.


To help NVACCESS catch these problems could you do the following.

Under the general settings in nvda set log in level to debug then apply your settings.

This should hopefully catch what is happening.

next restart nvda then go into out look and get it to try and reproduce the problem and what you have to do to make it do it please write into a email and paste the log into it.


Once you reproduced the problem in debug mode, then save the log. Save it to your desk top so it is easy to find.

The log can be found under tools then view log. there is a short cut for it but can not remember what it is at present.



Actually it is the nvda key + F1 key to bring it up then save it to the desk top then either paste into a email to nvaccess or you can do a ticket but if you do not have a account you will have to make one then fill in the fields to make a ticket at The basics of making a ticket for NVACCESS,If and when you discover a bug in NVDA, you can create a ticket and have it looked into. For a written tutorial on the basics of making a ticket for NVACCESS please visit the following link The basics of making a ticket for NVACCESS

Actually I pointed you to wards a page on my website that gives you a idea of what to do first and from there is a link to where you can do one.


If you have quentins email you might be able to send it to him and the steps to reproduce the problem along with the attachment


Gene nz

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On 11/02/2020 12:19 pm, Sky Mundell wrote:

Hello list. I found a problem with NVDA 2019.3. When I open up outlook and I use my down arrow key, Nvda doesn’t speak the list of messages, but when I alt tab out of the inbox, and I alt tab back into the inbox, everything works. What could be causing this? This doesn’t happen in NVDA 2019.2.1.



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Re: nvda 2019.3 vocalizer, and remote support

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Sorry Rui,
I downloaded the vocalizer add on you recommended in your link and re-downloaded the voices I need and installed all of them, but it did not help. This time I did not get a message that they are not compatible, but I got no speech at all. How do I remove the installation activation of the vocalizer so that I can reuse it? I do not want to lose one activation trying and failing.
I now reinstalled NVDA 2019.2 and everything is working normal.
Where can I find the instruction on how to remove the activation and restore it in another installation?

Regards,
Ibrahim

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 vocalizer, and remote support

Hello!

You can get a NVDA 2019.3.1 compatible version at:
https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

It still have one or two problems, but we are taking care of them...

Best regards,
Costumer support
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 13:26 de 10/02/2020, David Mehler escreveu:
Hello,

I just updated to nvda 2019.3 and a bunch of my addons which wouldn't
update just broke/disabled. One of them is my nuance vocalizer drivers
and synth. I'm not seeing anything on addons.nvda-project.org on this.
Another is nvda remote support. Does this addon have a 2019.3
compatible version? I just checked addons.nvda-project.org and stable
looks like it isn't, actually i'm not seeing a download for that at
all.

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
Dave.
Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Pascal,

You can get the official Eloquence add-on from: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

Re the combo box, someone else reported the same thing, although I can't replicate it myself.  Are you in the donation section of the download page, or the donation page?

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:38 PM <coccinelle@...> wrote:

Good morning Quentin,

Please, where can one download an Eloquent synthesizer  version that is compatible with NVDA 2019.3?

I tried to donate this morning and I found the spin button did not work for me.  Why can’t we use a combo box to choose the amount and another one to choose whether it is a monthly or single donation?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 released

 

Hi everyone,

 

NV Access is very pleased to present the long awaited next installment of the world's most popular screen reader:  NVDA 2019.3!

 

NVDA 2019.3 is a very significant release containing many under-the-hood changes including the upgrade of Python 2 to Python 3, and a major re-write of NVDA’s speech subsystem. Although these changes do break compatibility with older NVDA add-ons, the upgrade to Python 3 is necessary for security, and the changes to speech allow for some exciting innovations in the near future.

Other highlights in this release include 64 bit support for Java VMs, Screen Curtain and Focus Highlight functionality, support for more braille displays and a new Braille viewer, and many many other bug fixes.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd after updating.

 

To read the full release, and download NVDA, please see the announcement at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3-released/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Brian,

I'd be interested in the log if you still have it.  They should be in the %temp% directory - the log for either the currently running, or most recently running session of NVDA, is nvda.log,  The log from the time before that is nvda-old.log

Which version were you updating from?

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 2:14 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Just thought I'd post this as it is a first for me:  NVDA would not update from the "in NVDA" update process.  It failed and said to see the log.

I downloaded the new installer and that worked perfectly, and without having to uninstall the existing NVDA installation.  I probably should have posted this before going that route, as I believe I've probably now overwritten the log.  However, if the log is appended to, and anyone on the development team would like for me to send them a copy, just let me know.  I won't likely be using NVDA at all additionally today so the log is going to remain however it happens to be at the moment.

As a completely unrelated aside, can anyone tell me why NVDA announces, "Switch to USB Dialog Adapter Combo Box," as the first thing after starting virtually every time?  I've grown used to it, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what it thinks it has focus on such that this is what is announced.  And that quote is verbatim.
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Re: OE Classic 3.1 gets more accessibility fixes.

Troy Burnham
 

Does OE classic allow for more than 1 e-mail account at a time? I tried it a while back but I have 2 e-mail accounts and I could only use one at a time so I gave up on it.

Troy



On 2/10/2020 9:40 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

The below is from their accessibility email list. No, I have no clue how to join it. I was added. For those who hate Thunderbird, this may be a good alternative but understand that the free version does not support IMAP or profiles yet.

Before I paste the email, here's the website. Check it out. Send them bugs and questions.

In the latest release of OE Classic 3.1, released today (10th February 2020), we've added the support for standard Message dialogs which are now fully screen-reader accessible. The dialogs use standard buttons and standard way of displaying messages which is easily readable to any screen-reader. The dialog we're describing are the ones such as "are you sure" type of dialogs. For example, when you right click the empty deleted items folder option one such dialog will show up.

To have this support there are some requirements though:

  • you must run at least Windows Vista or newer (Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 10 work well, and Windows 10 works best regarding this)

  • Theme support must be enabled on Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8. (so in other words, Windows must be using at least Windows Basic or Windows Aero theme). On Windows 10 this is not a problem, because the themes from Windows 8 and earlier are removed - Windows 10 has always theme support enabled so message dialogs in OE Classic will be always the standard Windows ones which are accessible. The requirement to have theme support enabled on Windows Vista / 7 / 8 will be removed in one of the updates when we switch to newer compiler than the one we currently use. But this is not much of a problem. Windows 7 usually is already set to one of the above mentioned themes by default, and for Windows 10 this is not a problem at all, since it has this always enabled.

  • Windows XP cannot be supported unfortunately. It doesn't support the required programming interface needed to add this. If you use that version, OE Classic will revert to the older dialogs which are not accessible. We have some ideas how to support even this, but it will require some compromises which we are only ready to take when the popularity of Windows XP is below 1% (currently about 2%).

In addition to all the above, we're also working on adding accessibility support for the list views (message list, contact list, folder list) which is currently the biggest known thing to be missing. We have made some progress regarding that in discovering why it doesn't work but there is still work to be done. We will notify you about this separately. There are also a few other windows which haven't been localized and as such adjusted for accessibility, and that will be done in time too, but these windows are rare in the current version (it is the updates window and send/receive window for example). With all of that we're approaching the goal of reaching 100% accessibility.

If you have suggestions, other than the ones which are already listed, we're always looking forward to those. If you have already made a suggestion, rest assured it is already in our queue to be implemented so there is no need to suggest it again.
Re: My 1st bug report for 2019.3.1

Quentin Christensen
 

Interesting,

I first encountered this a couple of years ago - https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7514

Evidently it doesn't seem to be affecting everyone, and curious that it has just started affecting you (and possibly others since someone else has commented on that issue today as well).

I don't have an answer, but I'll keep investigating.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 8:40 AM Jackie <abletec@...> wrote:
I've tried both w/Eloquence & 1 core voices. Using pitch as a
capitalization indicator no longer works. I'll switch to beeps for
now, but that's kind of annoying.


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Error when going to download voices site

Gerardo Corripio
 

Remember in previous Email, I mentioned that upon installing the latestTiflotecnia Vocalizer AddOn, when it asks me and I say Yes, to go to the page to download at least one voice to get started using it? When the page loads, it says Oops, an error occured

This exception has been logged with id 7en4cnm2l.

 

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A refresher on setting up Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer voices?

Gerardo Corripio
 

Having updated to NVDA2019.3, I’m needing a refresher on how to activate and set up Tiflotecnia’s Vocalizer voices? I installed the updated driver, and the voices, but nothing appears within NVDA Menu/Tools as before, where a Vocalizer menu option appeared in the past. The AddOn I think installed alright because when I start NVDA, a dialogue pops up about going to the Tiflotecnia Download page to grab voices;the page it goes ton, however gives an error. So I Googled and downloaded the English and Spanish Compac voices packs, and installed them, with no results so as to activate these. NVDA+Control+s doesn’t show theVocalizer as before either. What am I missing?

 

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Re: Relating to NVDA 2019.3.1

Quentin Christensen
 

I think most of the questions from this thread have been answered - but to summarise:

- NVDA 2019.3.1 works on Windows 7.  We have no plans of stopping support for Windows 7, although we would encourage everyone to consider moving to a newer version of Windows which is supported by Microsoft.

- 2019.3.1 includes some language translation fixes which were inadvertently missed in the original 2019.3 release.

- The name means "2019" (a release in 2019 - ok it's 2020 now but as per the notes in In-Process https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-16th-january/ we kept the name to avoid confusion), "3" as in the third major release of 2019 (following on from 2019.2) and "1" is a minor or "point release" to fix a specific issue (the language strings in this case).  Some synthesizers read 2019.3.1 as 1st March 2019, but that is not what it is supposed to mean.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 8:34 AM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:
I seem to have noticed it, too. That's why I made an enquiry into it.



On 10/02/2020 21:53, Shaun Everiss wrote:
> I noticed that 2019.3.1 is not in the whatsnew changelog.
>
>
>
> On 11/02/2020 9:01 am, Roger Stewart wrote:
>> Apparently March 2019 is equal to NVDA 2019.3 which is the correct
>> version. I found this very confusing but maybe the first beta came
>> out last March or something. Anyhow, go ahead and get that version
>> and you'll really have 2019.3.
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2020 1:09 PM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I installed the stable NVDA 2019.3 version. When I restarted the
>>> machine, I found the version number from the subject line, that's to
>>> say, 2019.3.1. My decision is not to install it till I've been told
>>> to by those who can tell so.
>>>
>>>
>>> Note:
>>>
>>>
>>> I use Windows 7 operating system.
>>>
>>> Note 2
>>>
>>>
>>> I've checked all the mail messages, and found that none of them says
>>> a word relating to 2019.3.1. Due to the fact that I've been using
>>> NVDA for a longer period of time, let me suppose that this may be a
>>> minor version addressing some bug fixes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dejan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>
>
>
> .





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Re: Update: Defender no longer mistakenly flagging NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

If you press NVDA+control+r three times quickly it should reset NVDA to factory defaults, which should revert to Windows OneCore voices.

The other alternative, if everything is still working, just the synth not reading, is you could press NVDA+Control+s to open the synth settings dialog.  From here you could press HOME to jump to the first option (eSpeak) or W for Windows OneCore and press ENTER - that way you won't lose any other settings.


On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 6:29 AM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

You probably have to register your synths again, however you may have lost an activation.

Its why all my payed stuff is sapi.



On 11/02/2020 6:16 am, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Quentin, I just downloaded 2019.3 from the site. After installing I get a message that says, “please register”. This is announced no matter what key I press. The only option I am left with is to press insert q.

 

******

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Update: Defender no longer mistakenly flagging NVDA

 

Hi everyone,

 

Just a quick update - I mentioned on Friday that Microsoft had fixed their Defender definitions.  At the time it hadn't filtered down to me at least, although later on Friday it did and everything was fine again.  You should no longer have trouble installing NVDA 2019.3rc3 from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc3-now-available-for-testing/

 

If you are still having trouble using eSpeak on a previously installed or setup copy of the RC, you might need to install again, as Defender probably deleted the eSpeak.dll file (the file it was incorrectly flagging as problematic).

 

Also just to reassure everyone, there never was a problem with eSpeak or NVDA - there never was a trojan or malicious software, it was simply Windows defender incorrectly marking the espeak dll as problematic, even though there was nothing wrong with the file.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: Donation Too nerve wracking

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi gene


Correction for the download page after you pick your amount and enter it in you need to go to the download button then it will pop up a page to in my case pay pal to donate after I have signed in.


So am guessing it is all right there.


Seems to be on the donate page either through the screen reader or on the website.


Gene nz


On 11/02/2020 3:17 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi Gene


It looks as though there are different results depending which way you go in.


For example from the screen reader and I think the donate link on there website it shows buttons and it is the one off donation when it takes you to another page you can not edit.


But if you look say under the down load link page they show as radio buttons and if you pick one off donation it will let you edit the amount to donate but then nothing after that even if you press the enter key there does not seem to be even a button there to do that.


i can see why people are having problems.


I reported the other 2 to quenton but when he replies also add in the one from the down load page which reports differently.


you can have a sus to see what I mean.


Gene nz


On 11/02/2020 2:54 pm, Gene wrote:
I don't know what part of the form you are working with.  if you start with the donate form on the page that discusses downloading and askks users to donate, they are radio buttons.  But I don't know where you are looking.  and I can move through them with r.
 
Are you on a page you get to after you follow the download button and are on the page where you continue after making your selection on the first page? 
 
Gene
----- Origial message -----
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Donation Too nerve wracking

Hi Gene


NVA says they are buttons not radio buttons so can be skipped down by the letter B


If you then say pick one that you can donate to monthly mine is setup to do with pay pal which I think was one of the options then just a matter of signing in and paying that way.


I see where the problem comes in is a once off donation when it takes you to the next screen you can not edit the amount so most people would stop there and go no further If i did say then go to donate i would be guessing it was the 200 not the lets say 10 bucks.


I would not go any further so no donation that way.


Gene nz


On 11/02/2020 1:27 pm, Gene wrote:
One thing I haven't examined yet fully, but which I think is the case from what I looked at, is that if someone tabs through the radio buttons, which they shouldn't do on an unfamiliar form, only the radio button will be announced and not the associated text.  Someone who knows how to work with forms well won't find this a problem but a lot of blind people don't know how to work with forms well.  If this were changed, it would make it easier for those who aren't good at filling out forms. 
 
That still doesn't tell people if they are in the one time donation or the recurring donation part of the form.  The only way I can see as I think about it now, though there may be others, is to have the form divided with links telling people what they will be working with. 
In other words, at the start of the form, a link would say something like click here to make a one time donation.  On the line below, there would be a link that says click here to make a monthly donation.
As things are now, these parts of the form are on the same page with text telling people where they are.  But a lot of blind people tab through a form or through most of it.  That is, I believe, the result of poor instruction or of people just picking things up as they go. 
 
The form designers need to decide if they want to help people learn to use forms with instructions and keeping the form as it is, or if they want to make the form useable by people who just tab through everything.
 
Earlier, I said that the form should not be dumbed down.  But on reflection, I'll say that it depends on what the designers want to do, to educate in that context or make something so easy to use that it takes nothing but tabbing.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Donation Too nerve wracking

Please explain how the form is badly designed. It can't be simpler.

You need to select what type of donation you want. Either you have a set of radio buttons on the Download page, or a set of buttons on the donate page.


On 2/10/2020 2:46 PM, James Bentley wrote:

I’m not certain as to who is saying the phrase, “kiss of death” but I agree.

 

It took me well over a year to finally finally set up a small monthly donation to NVDA.  I wonder how many dollars are not getting where they need to go because of a combination of persons with less PC skills and apparently, a web designer or, at least the form designer also having less skills.

 

We need NVDA to grow world wide so more persons will have free access to NVDA.

 

I use Jaws and Narrator too but, NVDA needs to prosper.  I hope some one will fix this unnecessary complicated process.

 

Regards,

 

James B

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 3:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Donation Too nerve wracking

 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 04:34 PM, Jackie wrote:

The problem is that too many, I think assume a lack of skill, when at least part of the problem may indeed be due to implementation.

And, in this case, it seems to be a combination of both, which is often the absolute kiss of death.
 
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

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Re: my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.14 and its attached voices no longer work with NVDA 2019.3

Moty Azrad
 

Rui,

 

Thank for your respond.

My question is:

How much time I have to wait because I write my trouble here and to you privately, for many days.

Please, tell us how much time we have to wait for fixing our problems?

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: February 10, 2020 23:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.14 and its attached voices no longer work with NVDA 2019.3

 

Hello!

 

That problem was introduced in one of last changes in the NVDA configurations programing...

 

We are still trying to fix that...

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

Às 16:10 de 10/02/2020, Moty Azrad escreveu:

Dear all,

 

I have the same problem with the newest vocalizer expressive driver version 3.1.0.

I can not switch between languages, hebrew engine and English voice.

I wrote privately to tiflotecnia, and uptonow, I don’t have good solution to my and my friends vocalizer expressibe users.

I purchased only three weeks ago three activations and paid 90 Euro for it.

What can I do more to solve my and my other blind friends users?

 

Thank much for any support.

 

Moti

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abedrabbo
Sent: February 10, 2020 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.14 and its attached voices no longer work with NVDA 2019.3

 

Hello folks,

As the subject says: my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.0.14 no longer works on the newly released NVDA 2019.3. I get this message indicating its incompatibility.

Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver; Status: Incompatible; Version: 3.0.14; Author: Tiflotecnia, LDA

How do I correct this problem?  Where do I download the compatible drivers? Do I have to purchase the drivers again or do I qualify for an upgrade?

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Ibrahim
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