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Re: Visual indicator of NVDA cursor location?

Luke Robinett
 

Excellent! thanks guys. I’ve held off on updating to the latest version to allow some time for initial bugs to get ironed out etc. That would explain why I wasn’t finding that setting. Haha. Thanks again 

On Feb 12, 2020, at 11:37 PM, Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Under NVDA settings, find the vision category, and, besides toggling
screen curtain, there's also now the focus highlight option, which used
to be an add-on, but, now seems to be built in, and, offers exactly that
- highlighting what we're focused on?


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2020-02-13 04:47 AM, Luke Robinett wrote:
> When I am sharing my screen with remote colleagues via Skype or I just have a coworker looking over my shoulder as we work together on something, it’s hard for sighted folks to follow along with me because I’m not using the mouse. Is there a way to enable some sort of visual indicator of the NVDA cursor so sighted people can follow along as we navigate?
>
>

Re: Vocalizer for NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

We don't directly sell Eloquence, we simply link to the Code Factory page:  https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/#

According to the FAQ on that page:
"On how many machines can I register my Code Factory Add-on for NVDA license?
Similar to SAPI version of Eloquence, the NVDA add-on license can also be activated on 3 machines."

I think they are the same, just different resellers.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:30 AM Daniel Hawkins <computersassociated@...> wrote:
This also brings up my question. Which TTS is updated on atguys.com that I can use with the new NVDA update? What is the difference between the Eloquence on atguys.com or the one on nvaccess.org

All I can see is the atguys have a 3 licence for their TTS, but I take it that nvaccess.org TTS is a 1 user licence?
Daniel Hawkins



On Feb 13, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I am interested in only the Vocalizer voices for NVDA.  A T Guys has Eloquence and Vocalizer Expressive Add-on for NVDA for $69 and
Vocalizer Expressive voices for NVDA (Latest Version) for $115.
So does this mean that the Vocalizer voices in the $69 version are out of date and not as good?







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Training and Support Manager


Re: Vocalizer for NVDA

Daniel Hawkins
 

This also brings up my question. Which TTS is updated on atguys.com that I can use with the new NVDA update? What is the difference between the Eloquence on atguys.com or the one on nvaccess.org

All I can see is the atguys have a 3 licence for their TTS, but I take it that nvaccess.org TTS is a 1 user licence?
Daniel Hawkins



On Feb 13, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I am interested in only the Vocalizer voices for NVDA.  A T Guys has Eloquence and Vocalizer Expressive Add-on for NVDA for $69 and
Vocalizer Expressive voices for NVDA (Latest Version) for $115.
So does this mean that the Vocalizer voices in the $69 version are out of date and not as good?





Re: Number and Abbrieviation Processing

Quentin Christensen
 

It can be done with NVDA's speech dictionary.  You'd need to use a "regular expression" (regex) to avoid having enter every possible combination of numbers.  Actually another way (since I haven't ever sat down and properly learned regex, and I haven't fully thought this through) I just tried, is to make a speech dictionary entry to change "." (period or full stop, no quotes) to "dot" (d o t, again no quotes).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:30 AM Gary <ironmangary@...> wrote:
I don't know if this is two issues or one and if it's something that
can be done within NVDA.  I use the Windows core voices synthesizer,
although it occurs with the Microsoft SAPI synth as well.  I do not
want dates or abbreviations to be processed.  For example, the latest
version of NVDA, 2019.03.01 is read as "March 1, 2019" instead of
"2019 dot 03 dot 01".  Additionally, I am hearing hello.pl as "hello
dot place" instead of "hello dot p l."  Obviously, I know I can use
the dictionary to teach NVDA to read "pl" as "p l" but there seems to
be dozens of these abbreviations.  I look at software versions all day
so the first example is driving me crazy.

Is there a way within NVDA to say ignore date processing and
abbreviation processing?  I definitely have been unsuccessful finding
how this would be done with the synthesizer software.  If there is a
synthesizer that has this level of control that won't hit my wallet
too hard and actually has a real sounding voice, I'd be interested in
going that route if it's my only option.

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

Gary





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Training and Support Manager


Re: how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

Rui Fontes
 

If you have Windows 10, press the Windows key and type File explorer...

Explore the options...


I can't give you better explanations since my Windows is in portuguese...


Rui Fontes


Às 00:00 de 14/02/2020, Robert Mendoza escreveu:

Hoping could guide me how to enable the hidden files in the File explorer

I appreciate your respond. Thanks.


Re: NVDA froze

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Cordelia,

A log, information about the programs / versions running, and steps to reproduce could all help.

A couple of other things which can help:

- If you've recently updated NVDA or any other program, make sure you have restarted the computer as this can solve random bugs which happen in between installing or updating software, and restarting (it's one of the reasons most software, including NVDA, recommends restarting after installing).
- Restart NVDA with add-ons disabled: Press NVDA+Q, then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:
Hi:

I updated to NVDA 2019.3.1 a couple of days ago and while responding to an
email in Outlook 2010, it froze and did not respond to any key strokes. I
ended up shutting down the computer and restarting it, switching to another
screen reader to write this message. I do not know if a log would help
pinpoint the problem. What other workaround might there be to restart NVDA
and get the keys moving again?

Cordelia






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Training and Support Manager


how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

Robert Mendoza
 

Hoping could guide me how to enable the hidden files in the File explorer

I appreciate your respond. Thanks.

Re: Vocalizer Expressive Driver

Andrea Sherry
 

Thank you for your most prompt response.
Andrea

On 14/02/2020 10:48 am, Rui Fontes wrote:
That error is still being solved...


Sorry by the trouble...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 22:03 de 13/02/2020, Andrea Sherry escreveu:
Using Windows 10 64 bit home.
NVDA 2019.3.1.
Have installed Vocalizer driver/voices.
Each time NVDA loads I receive a message from Vocalizer that my credentials cannot be verified.
It says to check where my email ans password have been entered correctly. Have done this and it is correct.
The screen also suggests that I am using another person's software or that I am attempting to use Vocalizer on more than one computer. This is not correct.
Went to the Vocalizer site and downloaded the driver 3.14 I think it was. However when I attempt to install I am told thqat this addon is blocked. The only driver addon that works form me is a version (3.10) which I installed with an earlier beta.
Is there another driver version I should have and if so where is it?
Andrea


Re: List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Rui Fontes
 

Correct! It is a command from the Mozilla add-on...


Here is working alright...


Rui Fontes


Às 23:45 de 13/02/2020, kelby carlson escreveu:

NVDA+F8 is indeed a command and it opens a list of the currently active tabs in a browser window. I have a home and work computer, and it works on my home computer and not my work computer. It does not work with Internet explorer, but Firefox is the only other browser on my work computer., 

On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


The reason for doing that is to try to find out if the problem is with Firefox or NVDA.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Before resetting things and losing settings, if that's what happened, the first thing to do is to try the command in another browser.  What happens if you do?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I suppose he want to say NVDA+F7...


Rui


Às 20:05 de 13/02/2020, Gene escreveu:
I am not aware of such a command and when I do it, nothing happens.  It also has no response in input help.
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I mistyped, I was using NVDA+F8.

On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


There is no NVDA f6 command.  You are using a browser command, f6 to move from pane to pane or to different structures in the program.  Just use F6. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Hello,

I have noticed that recently when I am in Firefox and press NVDA+F6, NVDA says "not available here". I've reset Firefox and NVDA's configuration to no avail. I am running the latest Windows 10, and have not yet updated to NVDA 2019.3.

Anyone have suggestions?

Re: Vocalizer Expressive Driver

Rui Fontes
 

That error is still being solved...


Sorry by the trouble...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 22:03 de 13/02/2020, Andrea Sherry escreveu:

Using Windows 10 64 bit home.
NVDA 2019.3.1.
Have installed Vocalizer driver/voices.
Each time NVDA loads I receive a message from Vocalizer that my credentials cannot be verified.
It says to check where my email ans password have been entered correctly. Have done this and it is correct.
The screen also suggests that I am using another person's software or that I am attempting to use Vocalizer on more than one computer. This is not correct.
Went to the Vocalizer site and downloaded the driver 3.14 I think it was. However when I attempt to install I am told thqat this addon is blocked. The only driver addon that works form me is a version (3.10) which I installed with an earlier beta.
Is there another driver version I should have and if so where is it?
Andrea

Re: List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

kelby carlson
 

NVDA+F8 is indeed a command and it opens a list of the currently active tabs in a browser window. I have a home and work computer, and it works on my home computer and not my work computer. It does not work with Internet explorer, but Firefox is the only other browser on my work computer., 

On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


The reason for doing that is to try to find out if the problem is with Firefox or NVDA.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Before resetting things and losing settings, if that's what happened, the first thing to do is to try the command in another browser.  What happens if you do?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I suppose he want to say NVDA+F7...


Rui


Às 20:05 de 13/02/2020, Gene escreveu:
I am not aware of such a command and when I do it, nothing happens.  It also has no response in input help.
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I mistyped, I was using NVDA+F8.

On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


There is no NVDA f6 command.  You are using a browser command, f6 to move from pane to pane or to different structures in the program.  Just use F6. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Hello,

I have noticed that recently when I am in Firefox and press NVDA+F6, NVDA says "not available here". I've reset Firefox and NVDA's configuration to no avail. I am running the latest Windows 10, and have not yet updated to NVDA 2019.3.

Anyone have suggestions?

Re: NVDA and Firefox

Quentin Christensen
 

RIght enough Gene - "COM Registration Fixing Tool".  And yes, that's what I would have suggested trying as well.


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:07 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
This sounds to me like the longstanding problem that some programs, when you uninstall them, unregister some.dll files.  NVDA has a utility to correct the problem.  Open the menu with NVDA key n.  Find and open the tools submenu.  Find and run the com registry fixing tool.  That may not be the exact name but its close enough that you will know it.  The tool reregisters the .dll files, if they have become unregistered.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Firefox

This also happened to me and I dealt with it by  installing  Waterfox at that time as a slimmed down version of FireFox with at the time better accessibility.

I have now pretty much moved to using Brave full time now so I am not quite sure of the full status of Waterfox. I relaunched it just now and it appears to be still OK.

David Griffith




-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: 13 February 2020 13:09
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Firefox

Hi Everyone

I use Windows 7, NVDA 2019.3.1 and Firefox 68.5.0ESR. It works fine on
one machine.

I have just installed NVDA on another Windows 7 machine and, when I load
Firefox, it says the title of the page and then keeps saying "Unknown".
This machine had a previous version of Firefox which was updated today
to 68.5.0ESR.
I created a portable version of NVDA using the first machine and
installed it on the second one.

Can anyone advise me how to make it work on the second machine?

Thanks

pele West










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Training and Support Manager


Re: Problem with NVDA while reading documents

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Vaibhav,

Can you please give more information about what happened here.  I can't quite follow / replicate what you have done.  Firstly which program are you working in?  Initially I thought maybe Word, but SHIFT+TAB doesn't change documents in Word.  CONTROL+F6 will switch between open Word documents, or ALT+TAB will switch between open windows (from any program).

You can use SHIFT+TAB in File Explorer to move from the file list to the folder list, which you might do if you want to move to another folder of documents?

All of those things worked just fine in Windows 10 / Office 2016 / NVDA 2019.3 for me just now.

Also you said NVDA kept talking, what was it saying?

If you could email that information with a full copy of the log to info@... I can have a look for you.

Regards
Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 11:02 PM Vaibhav Bhandari <vaibhavbhandari2017@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I am using the latest version of NVDA. Today, I was reading and doing
work in some documents but when suddenly I switched my documents by
pressing shift+tab, my nvda crashed. It was not reading the document
and no matter what I pressed it did not stop speaking. After
restarting it, the problem occurred again. This time I restarted NVDA
in debug mode and got the following message during that problem:
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (13:02:41.398) -
MainThread (4820):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1311748, objectID 109 and
childID 0: [WinError -2147467259] Unspecified error
This problem is continuously happening though fortunately not so
frequently. Can someone help me with this?

--
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari





--
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Training and Support Manager


Vocalizer Expressive Driver

Andrea Sherry
 

Using Windows 10 64 bit home.
NVDA 2019.3.1.
Have installed Vocalizer driver/voices.
Each time NVDA loads I receive a message from Vocalizer that my credentials cannot be verified.
It says to check where my email ans password have been entered correctly. Have done this and it is correct.
The screen also suggests that I am using another person's software or that I am attempting to use Vocalizer on more than one computer. This is not correct.
Went to the Vocalizer site and downloaded the driver 3.14 I think it was. However when I attempt to install I am told thqat this addon is blocked. The only driver addon that works form me is a version (3.10) which I installed with an earlier beta.
Is there another driver version I should have and if so where is it?
Andrea

Number and Abbrieviation Processing

Gary
 

I don't know if this is two issues or one and if it's something that
can be done within NVDA. I use the Windows core voices synthesizer,
although it occurs with the Microsoft SAPI synth as well. I do not
want dates or abbreviations to be processed. For example, the latest
version of NVDA, 2019.03.01 is read as "March 1, 2019" instead of
"2019 dot 03 dot 01". Additionally, I am hearing hello.pl as "hello
dot place" instead of "hello dot p l." Obviously, I know I can use
the dictionary to teach NVDA to read "pl" as "p l" but there seems to
be dozens of these abbreviations. I look at software versions all day
so the first example is driving me crazy.

Is there a way within NVDA to say ignore date processing and
abbreviation processing? I definitely have been unsuccessful finding
how this would be done with the synthesizer software. If there is a
synthesizer that has this level of control that won't hit my wallet
too hard and actually has a real sounding voice, I'd be interested in
going that route if it's my only option.

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

Gary

Re: List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Gene
 

The reason for doing that is to try to find out if the problem is with Firefox or NVDA.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Before resetting things and losing settings, if that's what happened, the first thing to do is to try the command in another browser.  What happens if you do?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I suppose he want to say NVDA+F7...


Rui


Às 20:05 de 13/02/2020, Gene escreveu:
I am not aware of such a command and when I do it, nothing happens.  It also has no response in input help.
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I mistyped, I was using NVDA+F8.

On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


There is no NVDA f6 command.  You are using a browser command, f6 to move from pane to pane or to different structures in the program.  Just use F6. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Hello,

I have noticed that recently when I am in Firefox and press NVDA+F6, NVDA says "not available here". I've reset Firefox and NVDA's configuration to no avail. I am running the latest Windows 10, and have not yet updated to NVDA 2019.3.

Anyone have suggestions?

Re: List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Gene
 

Before resetting things and losing settings, if that's what happened, the first thing to do is to try the command in another browser.  What happens if you do?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I suppose he want to say NVDA+F7...


Rui


Às 20:05 de 13/02/2020, Gene escreveu:
I am not aware of such a command and when I do it, nothing happens.  It also has no response in input help.
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I mistyped, I was using NVDA+F8.

On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


There is no NVDA f6 command.  You are using a browser command, f6 to move from pane to pane or to different structures in the program.  Just use F6. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Hello,

I have noticed that recently when I am in Firefox and press NVDA+F6, NVDA says "not available here". I've reset Firefox and NVDA's configuration to no avail. I am running the latest Windows 10, and have not yet updated to NVDA 2019.3.

Anyone have suggestions?

Re: List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Rui Fontes
 

I suppose he want to say NVDA+F7...


Rui


Às 20:05 de 13/02/2020, Gene escreveu:

I am not aware of such a command and when I do it, nothing happens.  It also has no response in input help.
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I mistyped, I was using NVDA+F8.

On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


There is no NVDA f6 command.  You are using a browser command, f6 to move from pane to pane or to different structures in the program.  Just use F6. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Hello,

I have noticed that recently when I am in Firefox and press NVDA+F6, NVDA says "not available here". I've reset Firefox and NVDA's configuration to no avail. I am running the latest Windows 10, and have not yet updated to NVDA 2019.3.

Anyone have suggestions?

Re: speech syns

Richard Wells
 

I own both and believe the Acapela voices to be more responsive and
modifiable.

On 2/12/2020 6:31 PM, Don H wrote:
Anyone have any opinions regarding Acapela.  voices versus vocalizer?
In your opinion which one is more reliable and more modifiable.


Re: List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Gene
 

I am not aware of such a command and when I do it, nothing happens.  It also has no response in input help.
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

I mistyped, I was using NVDA+F8.

On Feb 13, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


There is no NVDA f6 command.  You are using a browser command, f6 to move from pane to pane or to different structures in the program.  Just use F6. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] List of Tabs "NOT Available Here"

Hello,

I have noticed that recently when I am in Firefox and press NVDA+F6, NVDA says "not available here". I've reset Firefox and NVDA's configuration to no avail. I am running the latest Windows 10, and have not yet updated to NVDA 2019.3.

Anyone have suggestions?