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Re: latest nvda and google chrome

Sarah k Alawami
 

Have you tried up and down arrowing to get the link to wirk then press enter. I have this issue on most web page bassed layouts.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 14 Feb 2020, at 9:37, Don H wrote:

I am having issues with Nvda 2019.3.1 not working will with some web pages when using the latest version of Google chrome. On the medicare.cov web site you can not get links to activate. Works fine when using Jaws 2020.

Re: how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

Sarah k Alawami
 

Huh? I never did it hrough control panel. I went hrough tools, folder options and control tab once. Then tabbed to the tree view and checked show hidden files etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 14 Feb 2020, at 6:21, Brian Vogel wrote:

And for the record, what one does to show/hide hidden files has remained the same for a very, very long time now.  It didn't change under Windows 10 one iota.

Control Panel, File Explorer Options, View Tab, and activate either the Show hidden files, folders, and drives radio button or its Don't show sibling.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

Re: eloquence suggestions

Gene
 

The Eloquence add -on is not legal and it is not allowed to discuss it on the list.  It is for the protection of the list.  If the wrong person sees discussions of illegal software, the list may be shut down.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

What is the difference between the two versions?
Daniel Hawkins



On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I currently use the NVDA paid version. Works well for me.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew








Weather_Plus7.4 update available

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi to every one,


Changes in this version:
• Fixed a bug in a city search function.

Weather_Plus can update itself, or can be downloaded from:
https://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus7.4.nvda-addon
or from:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/Weather_Plus.en.html

Thanks toNoelia, Abdel, Rémy, Zvonimir and every translators for their great support.


Regards
Adriano


VLC? was: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

Robert Logue
 

I never used VLC.  I did not know it was possible to play Youtube videos in other players.  Did VLC stream or download the files?  Could you save the whole file locally?  I wondered if it could be used to download and save Youtube videos for offline viewing.


I know there are Youtube dowloaders but they have drawbacks.  Would be wonderful to speed up playback of some Youtube tracks.



Bob


On 2020-02-13 1:39 a.m., Ian Blackburn wrote:
Thank you for all of that but I want to learn how to speed up the playback of YouTube videos using NVDA
Are used to put them into VLC media player But if the YouTube is part of a playlist VLC media player no longer seems to play it
I liked that player because I could speed up and slow down the playback pause and do all sorts of media type things with the video Stream
I’ll talk to sighted people and they say that there is a way of doing that on the normal YouTube videos screen that comes up But I haven’t yet worked out how to do it with NVDA by the way I’m using Mozilla Firefox And Windows 10 with all updates applied
Kind regards Ian


On 13 Feb 2020, at 4:15 pm, Easwaran Chinraj <easwarchinraj@...> wrote:


Dear sir,
First of all my apologies for my mistakeful English. I am using Youtube daily. So, please read the following fully.

If you feel the following is confusing, I have mentioned the very very basic style of navigation at the bottom of this reply which I was used when I was started to use YouTube with NVDA.

Open a browser and press Ctrl + L and type or copy and paste the below url.

youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

and press enter key. It will open the subscriptions page to see the videos from the channels you have subscribed.

After the page loads, press D until you hear Main Landmark Today Heading Level 2

This puts you in the main part of the webpage.

Then pressing 3 key will help you to read the title of the first video and again pressing 3 key will read the next and so on. Pressing Shift + 3 will work in vice versa (reverse).

After moving the navigation to the video you like, press space bar key or Enter key to play the video. A new page is loaded and the selected video will start to play in the next page.

The Title of the video which is currently playing will be in Heading 1 level. So, pressing 1 or Shift + 1 will tells you the current playing video's title.

To jump to the current playing video's player controls, press D or Shift +d until NVDA says Main Landmark. Then pressing the tab key will change the controls to the slider, pause, mute, next, settings, etc. Shift + tab for moving vice versa. (Or B key to navigate by buttons such as play, pause, next, mute, etc.)

You said "When watching a video in Youtube, she used to move the mouse to the videos listed on the right side of the Youtube page and click on the mouse, to go to the next or another video. NVDA would read the content of the videos...".

For that see the following:
Pressing 3 will tell the title of the suggested videos (which is on the right side) one by one. Shift + 3 for vice versa.

Pressing Enter or Space bar will play that video.

If you feel the above was confusing, simply press H key or Shift + H key to navigate by headings (video titles). D or Shift D for Landmarks, B or Shift B for buttons such as play, pause, action, like, dislike etc.

Hope I haven't confused you much and I hope it will surely help you.

If you have any other questions, feel free to reply me (your brother). Thank you sir.

With affection
Easwar Chinraj

Re: For how long do I have to continue getting the vocalizer error messages?

Rui Fontes
 

As I have already said, we are working on that...

Hope to solve it soon...


Best regards,

 

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 16:17 de 14/02/2020, Ibrahim Abedrabbo escreveu:

Hi folks,

I am currently running NVDA 2019.3.1 with the vocalizer add on posted by Rui. After some difficulties in deleting the vocalizer activation and reactivating again, Both seem to be running fine. I basically could not delete the old activation via the vocalizer menu, and had to delete the vocalizer activation manually.

However, I continuously get this irritating vocalizer error message every time I start my computer:

Your license can not be verified. Please check the following:

1. Your credentials (email and password) are correct (you can change them under the

vocalizer expressive menu)

2. You are not using someone else's activation or you are not using the same activation in

different computers at the same time. This is not legal, and is against license terms.

3. You are having internet problems.

For further clarification, please contact tiflotecnia, Lda, or your local dealer.

 

OK

 

Regards,

 

Ibrahim

 

Re: Current status of Tiflotecnia voices?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Many thanks, we will give that a go.

Mo.

On 14/02/2020 19:02, Rui Fontes wrote:
They can register and use the voices.

The validation of the activation only stops the functionalities after 30 days without verification...


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 19:00 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hi.

Many thanks for the link. Is there any point in installing it yet for my client if they cannot register? Or shall I wait?

Mo.


On 14/02/2020 18:59, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


For Vocalizer Expressive, the new version of the driver is at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi46eab9l3shzrj/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon?dl=1


It is not yet published on the page because still have a bug on verifying the authorization and we hope to fix it very soon...


For Vocalizer 2.0 the driver is already published at:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:48 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hello Everyone.

I was wondering what the current status of voices from Tiflotecnia is? I am assisting a client who has previously purchased voices and the add-on on their website isn't compatible with 2019.3.1. I thought they had released an update but obviously not. Does anyone have any ideas how we can get things working again?

Cheers,

Mo.






Re: Current status of Tiflotecnia voices?

Rui Fontes
 

They can register and use the voices.

The validation of the activation only stops the functionalities after 30 days without verification...


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 19:00 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hi.

Many thanks for the link. Is there any point in installing it yet for my client if they cannot register? Or shall I wait?

Mo.


On 14/02/2020 18:59, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


For Vocalizer Expressive, the new version of the driver is at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi46eab9l3shzrj/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon?dl=1


It is not yet published on the page because still have a bug on verifying the authorization and we hope to fix it very soon...


For Vocalizer 2.0 the driver is already published at:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:48 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hello Everyone.

I was wondering what the current status of voices from Tiflotecnia is? I am assisting a client who has previously purchased voices and the add-on on their website isn't compatible with 2019.3.1. I thought they had released an update but obviously not. Does anyone have any ideas how we can get things working again?

Cheers,

Mo.





Re: Current status of Tiflotecnia voices?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

Many thanks for the link. Is there any point in installing it yet for my client if they cannot register? Or shall I wait?

Mo.

On 14/02/2020 18:59, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


For Vocalizer Expressive, the new version of the driver is at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi46eab9l3shzrj/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon?dl=1


It is not yet published on the page because still have a bug on verifying the authorization and we hope to fix it very soon...


For Vocalizer 2.0 the driver is already published at:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:48 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hello Everyone.

I was wondering what the current status of voices from Tiflotecnia is? I am assisting a client who has previously purchased voices and the add-on on their website isn't compatible with 2019.3.1. I thought they had released an update but obviously not. Does anyone have any ideas how we can get things working again?

Cheers,

Mo.




Re: Current status of Tiflotecnia voices?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


For Vocalizer Expressive, the new version of the driver is at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi46eab9l3shzrj/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon?dl=1


It is not yet published on the page because still have a bug on verifying the authorization and we hope to fix it very soon...


For Vocalizer 2.0 the driver is already published at:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:48 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hello Everyone.

I was wondering what the current status of voices from Tiflotecnia is? I am assisting a client who has previously purchased voices and the add-on on their website isn't compatible with 2019.3.1. I thought they had released an update but obviously not. Does anyone have any ideas how we can get things working again?

Cheers,

Mo.



Current status of Tiflotecnia voices?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hello Everyone.

I was wondering what the current status of voices from Tiflotecnia is? I am assisting a client who has previously purchased voices and the add-on on their website isn't compatible with 2019.3.1. I thought they had released an update but obviously not. Does anyone have any ideas how we can get things working again?

Cheers,

Mo.

Re: speech syns

Kelly Sapergia
 

Hi,

I personally prefer the Acapela voices. I use Sharon primarily. The one
thing I wish is that the special codes to make a voice laugh, cry, etc.,
would work by default. There are some instructions on the Acapela Voices for
NVDA website's blog, but so far they don't work for me. Also, at least with
version 2019.3.1 of NVDA, I'm noticing some extra long pauses in spots, such
as before announcing if a checkbox is checked. This didn't occur with
earlier versions of the driver.

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Site (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com
Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia

Re: Number and Abbrieviation Processing

Martin McCormick
 

I am not an expert on regular expressions, but I sure
love to use them because they solve many decision problems
regarding text and how it is processed. For every problem
solved using a RE, hoever, there is a potential side effect created that
is just waiting to kick you in the knee. Output text is best
described as a stream of consciousness. We humans have the most
sophisticated computing system on Earth sitting right atop our
necks and our speech output is usually controlled by the context
of what we are doing and talking about at the moment. It's also
influenced by our age, education and where we came from.

A speech program for a computer doesn't even come close
to having any concept of that type of context and it gets to be a knotty
problem even for humans placed in an unfamiliar situation in
which street slang and vernacular are different on different
blocks of the same street.

We instantly know whether we should say the long E sound
when seeing R E A D or whether we should say a word that sounds
just like the color red if we just read a book.

A speech synthesizer that can get that little issue right
every time doesn't exist and that extraordinary computer that
sits on most of our spines can even be confused by unusual syntax
so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for someone to come up with
a software solution anytime soon, at least, not today.

I will say to those working on these projects, Keep up
the good work.

Probably the best idea in the mean time could be some
form of easily accessible switch that can be changed on the fly
to enable and disable the triggers that are causing misbehavior.
In the world of software, one situation's annoying behavior is
another's pure genius.

Martin McCormick

"Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...> writes:

It can be done with NVDA's speech dictionary. You'd need to use a
"regular
expression" (regex) to avoid having enter every possible combination of
numbers. Actually another way (since I haven't ever sat down and properly
learned regex, and I haven't fully thought this through) I just tried, is
to make a speech dictionary entry to change "." (period or full stop, no
quotes) to "dot" (d o t, again no quotes).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:30 AM Gary <ironmangary@...> wrote:

I don't know if this is two issues or one and if it's something that
can be done within NVDA. I use the Windows core voices synthesizer,
although it occurs with the Microsoft SAPI synth as well. I do not
want dates or abbreviations to be processed. For example, the latest
version of NVDA, 2019.03.01 is read as "March 1, 2019" instead of
"2019 dot 03 dot 01". Additionally, I am hearing hello.pl as "hello
dot place" instead of "hello dot p l." Obviously, I know I can use
the dictionary to teach NVDA to read "pl" as "p l" but there seems to
be dozens of these abbreviations. I look at software versions all day
so the first example is driving me crazy.

Is there a way within NVDA to say ignore date processing and
abbreviation processing? I definitely have been unsuccessful finding
how this would be done with the synthesizer software. If there is a
synthesizer that has this level of control that won't hit my wallet
too hard and actually has a real sounding voice, I'd be interested in
going that route if it's my only option.

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

Gary



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>



latest nvda and one core voice

Don H
 

Just installed the latest version of NVDA on my win 10 system. Withe the default one core voice david I get a strange when arrowing around on the desktop. NVDA reads the name of the icon followed by a strange noise. Change the one core voice to Mark and strange noise goes away.

latest nvda and google chrome

Don H
 

I am having issues with Nvda 2019.3.1 not working will with some web pages when using the latest version of Google chrome. On the medicare.cov web site you can not get links to activate. Works fine when using Jaws 2020.

Re: For how long do I have to continue getting the vocalizer error messages?

Richard Wells
 

I believe if after starting your computer, if you redo the "Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator" in NVDA Preferences/General, that problem will go away.

On 2/14/2020 10:17 AM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo wrote:

Hi folks,

I am currently running NVDA 2019.3.1 with the vocalizer add on posted by Rui. After some difficulties in deleting the vocalizer activation and reactivating again, Both seem to be running fine. I basically could not delete the old activation via the vocalizer menu, and had to delete the vocalizer activation manually.

However, I continuously get this irritating vocalizer error message every time I start my computer:

Your license can not be verified. Please check the following:

1. Your credentials (email and password) are correct (you can change them under the

vocalizer expressive menu)

2. You are not using someone else's activation or you are not using the same activation in

different computers at the same time. This is not legal, and is against license terms.

3. You are having internet problems.

For further clarification, please contact tiflotecnia, Lda, or your local dealer.

 

OK

 

Regards,

 

Ibrahim

 

Re: OE Classic 3.1 gets more accessibility fixes.

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Hi Robert,

Are you using OE classic yourself and if yes, with what screenreader?
I have installed the OE calssic 3.0 version and have set up an account.
With jaws I can mark a highlight color and then you can navigate through
the list, but not really great and hotkeys of OE are also not working.

Are you using it and with what screenreader?

Regards, marten

On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 07:40:18 -0800 "Robert Kingett" <@blindjourno> wrote:

The below is from their accessibility email list. No, I have no clue how to join it. I was added. For those who hate Thunderbird, this may be a good alternative but understand that the free version does not support IMAP or profiles yet.

Before I paste the email, [here's the website.](http://www.oeclassic.com/) Check it out. Send them bugs and questions.

In the latest release of OE Classic 3.1, released today (10th February 2020), we've added the support for standard Message dialogs which are now fully screen-reader accessible. The dialogs use standard buttons and standard way of displaying messages which is easily readable to any screen-reader. The dialog we're describing are the ones such as "are you sure" type of dialogs. For example, when you right click the empty deleted items folder option one such dialog will show up.

To have this support there are some requirements though:

- you must run at least Windows Vista or newer (Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 10 work well, and Windows 10 works best regarding this)

- Theme support must be enabled on Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8. (so in other words, Windows must be using at least Windows Basic or Windows Aero theme). On Windows 10 this is not a problem, because the themes from Windows 8 and earlier are removed - Windows 10 has always theme support enabled so message dialogs in OE Classic will be always the standard Windows ones which are accessible. The requirement to have theme support enabled on Windows Vista / 7 / 8 will be removed in one of the updates when we switch to newer compiler than the one we currently use. But this is not much of a problem. Windows 7 usually is already set to one of the above mentioned themes by default, and for Windows 10 this is not a problem at all, since it has this always enabled.

- Windows XP cannot be supported unfortunately. It doesn't support the required programming interface needed to add this. If you use that version, OE Classic will revert to the older dialogs which are not accessible. We have some ideas how to support even this, but it will require some compromises which we are only ready to take when the popularity of Windows XP is below 1% (currently about 2%).

In addition to all the above, we're also working on adding accessibility support for the list views (message list, contact list, folder list) which is currently the biggest known thing to be missing. We have made some progress regarding that in discovering why it doesn't work but there is still work to be done. We will notify you about this separately. There are also a few other windows which haven't been localized and as such adjusted for accessibility, and that will be done in time too, but these windows are rare in the current version (it is the updates window and send/receive window for example). With all of that we're approaching the goal of reaching 100% accessibility.

If you have suggestions, other than the ones which are already listed, we're always looking forward to those. If you have already made a suggestion, rest assured it is already in our queue to be implemented so there is no need to suggest it again.


For how long do I have to continue getting the vocalizer error messages?

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Hi folks,

I am currently running NVDA 2019.3.1 with the vocalizer add on posted by Rui. After some difficulties in deleting the vocalizer activation and reactivating again, Both seem to be running fine. I basically could not delete the old activation via the vocalizer menu, and had to delete the vocalizer activation manually.

However, I continuously get this irritating vocalizer error message every time I start my computer:

Your license can not be verified. Please check the following:

1. Your credentials (email and password) are correct (you can change them under the

vocalizer expressive menu)

2. You are not using someone else's activation or you are not using the same activation in

different computers at the same time. This is not legal, and is against license terms.

3. You are having internet problems.

For further clarification, please contact tiflotecnia, Lda, or your local dealer.

 

OK

 

Regards,

 

Ibrahim

 

Re: eloquence suggestions

Felix G.
 

Hi!
I'm currently using a demo version of the Code Factory version. Seems
to be a solid implementation. It's lightning fast.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 14. Feb. 2020 um 15:33 Uhr schrieb Sam Bushman
<libertyroundtable@...>:


The NVDA version can only be used for NVDA.

The other version can be used on windows and for any other speaking app/screen reader.

Not sure which is better because I have only used and paid for the NVDA version.

Thanks,

Sam





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 7:14 AM
To: NVDA Mailing Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] eloquence suggestions



What is the difference between the two versions?

Daniel Hawkins

computersassociated@...







On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:



I currently use the NVDA paid version. Works well for me.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda. does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew








Re: how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

Keith Eldridge
 

Hi Brian,

 

It has same effect as going into folder options and view tab. If you set it using shortcut keys and then go into the options the other way you will find it set in there and if you set or unset in folder option you would find the ribbon option checked or unckecked accordingly.

 

 

Regards

 

Keith Eldridge

Co-ordinator for IT for Visually Impaired

EAST SUSSEX COLLEGE EASTBOURNE

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 14 February 2020 14:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

 

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 09:47 AM, Keith Eldridge wrote:

Open file explorer by holding down the Windows key and pressing the E key. Then hold down the ALT key and press the V key and finally press the H key twice. This acts as a toggle and will turn it on if it is off and off if it is on.

Just curious, does doing it this way make the change apply globally to all files and folders or just to the one that you're viewing at the time?  I see all the controls you've mentioned, but have not used this technique, always going the File Options dialog in Control Panel instead.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

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