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Re: screen not refreshing on certain sites

André
 

Have you tried the F5 key to refresh the website, or - more likely - the NVDA + F5 key stroke to refresh the NVDA browsing mode?

Best, Martin

On 15/02/2020 14:09, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m having an issue that I don’t quite know how to solve.

 

On some sites, audible being the chief, whenever I try making changes to a given page it doesn’t seem to refresh properproperly unless I alt tab out of it then alt tab back in.

 

This was happening before the update but I can’t seem to find how you stop it.

 

Can someone please help?

 

Many thanks.

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12683 Berlin
Deutschland

Tel.: (+49) 178 715 6676
Re: eloquence suggestions

Josh Kennedy
 

The only thing I wish we could do is lets say you have a computer crash and you are out of activations for eloquence or vocalizer. I wish we could go to a special website, put in our registered license key, press reset button, and our key count or license count will be reset back to 3 installs. You can do this with jaws, so why not vocalizer and eloquence? Its annoying if you have a computer crash and want to get back up right away and if you are out of keys you have to contact your distributor and they have to reset your license back to 3 activations for you. I wish we could do this ourselves like we can with jaws. 

Josh
Re: For how long do I have to continue getting the vocalizer error messages?

Josh Kennedy
 

If you can afford them, maybe try buying the sapi5 vocalizer voices? They are not tied to NVDA and will work with any application such as NVDA, jaws, audio games, text file readers, and any other applications that use or can use sapi5 tts. I have the best of both worlds though. 6 or so months ago I bought sapi5 eloquence, sapi5 vocalizer, and the eloquence vocalizer voice bundle NVDA addon from www.atguys.com ... And a few years ago I also bought sapi5 eloquence with its own separate key from computer room services in the UK, even though I live in the United States so I have two sapi5 eloquence keys, one eloquence vocalizer addon NVDA-addon bundle key, and one vocalizer sapi5 key. Vocalizer sapi5 is a bit expensive, but its worth it in my opinion because it works with all sapi5 applications, including windows10 narrator. If you can't afford either of those, the windows10 oneCore voices are good and they support a lot of languages just like vocalizer does. 
screen not refreshing on certain sites

Darren Harris
 

Hi all,

 

I’m having an issue that I don’t quite know how to solve.

 

On some sites, audible being the chief, whenever I try making changes to a given page it doesn’t seem to refresh properproperly unless I alt tab out of it then alt tab back in.

 

This was happening before the update but I can’t seem to find how you stop it.

 

Can someone please help?

 

Many thanks.
Speech on demand addon for NVDA, and a bug in Microsoft office

abdul muhamin
 

Hi guys, is there a speech on demand like jaws, available for NVDA? I think it will be very useful in some of the apps.

More over, I’m using ms office 2016 pro, with latest NVDA, and I’ve enabled UI automation, after opening any document in word, NVDA says read-only before reading a line, I think it’s a bug, and needed to be fix, because with UI automation enabled, NVDA response more better.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
Re: Just a warm Hello! (Was:Re: [nvda] Current status of Tiflotecnia voices?)

Mallard
 

Sorry guys,


I'm afraid the message I thought I'd sent privately has actually come to the list.


My bad... Don't kill me for this, please... It wasn't meant to be...


Ciao,

Ollie

ps: Good thing I didn't write anything compromising!!! ROFL and MEGAROFL!

On 15/02/2020 12:04, Mallard wrote:


Hello Mo,


Ive just seenpost from you on the NVDA list, and my emotional, Italian nature pushed me to write to you, simply to say hello...


You're the one who encouraged me to start working with Vinux, yeas ago, and I'll never forget your kindness and competence.


Meanwhile I've moved on to Slint and Arch... Slint because it's simple to use; Arch, because it's my son's favourite, and he enticed me to try it out.

I love both...


My son is now in the UK, just abou to complete his Ph.D. in maths at the niversity of York.

He's been there for three and a half years now, but I've never been able to go and see him yet. Shame on me!


Sorry for intruding into your privte mailbox... I just couldn't resist, because I'm still so very grateful to you for the help and encouragement you gave me years ago.


I won't bother you agian, I rpomise...


Ciao, take caer,

Ollie


On 14/02/2020 20:03, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Many thanks, we will give that a go.

Mo.


On 14/02/2020 19:02, Rui Fontes wrote:
They can register and use the voices.

The validation of the activation only stops the functionalities after 30 days without verification...


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 19:00 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hi.

Many thanks for the link. Is there any point in installing it yet for my client if they cannot register? Or shall I wait?

Mo.


On 14/02/2020 18:59, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


For Vocalizer Expressive, the new version of the driver is at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi46eab9l3shzrj/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon?dl=1


It is not yet published on the page because still have a bug on verifying the authorization and we hope to fix it very soon...


For Vocalizer 2.0 the driver is already published at:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:48 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hello Everyone.

I was wondering what the current status of voices from Tiflotecnia is? I am assisting a client who has previously purchased voices and the add-on on their website isn't compatible with 2019.3.1. I thought they had released an update but obviously not. Does anyone have any ideas how we can get things working again?

Cheers,

Mo.
Just a warm Hello! (Was:Re: [nvda] Current status of Tiflotecnia voices?)

Mallard
 

Hello Mo,


Ive just seenpost from you on the NVDA list, and my emotional, Italian nature pushed me to write to you, simply to say hello...


You're the one who encouraged me to start working with Vinux, yeas ago, and I'll never forget your kindness and competence.


Meanwhile I've moved on to Slint and Arch... Slint because it's simple to use; Arch, because it's my son's favourite, and he enticed me to try it out.

I love both...


My son is now in the UK, just abou to complete his Ph.D. in maths at the niversity of York.

He's been there for three and a half years now, but I've never been able to go and see him yet. Shame on me!


Sorry for intruding into your privte mailbox... I just couldn't resist, because I'm still so very grateful to you for the help and encouragement you gave me years ago.


I won't bother you agian, I rpomise...


Ciao, take caer,

Ollie

On 14/02/2020 20:03, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Many thanks, we will give that a go.

Mo.


On 14/02/2020 19:02, Rui Fontes wrote:
They can register and use the voices.

The validation of the activation only stops the functionalities after 30 days without verification...


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 19:00 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hi.

Many thanks for the link. Is there any point in installing it yet for my client if they cannot register? Or shall I wait?

Mo.


On 14/02/2020 18:59, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


For Vocalizer Expressive, the new version of the driver is at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi46eab9l3shzrj/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon?dl=1


It is not yet published on the page because still have a bug on verifying the authorization and we hope to fix it very soon...


For Vocalizer 2.0 the driver is already published at:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm


Best regards,

Costumer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:48 de 14/02/2020, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:
Hello Everyone.

I was wondering what the current status of voices from Tiflotecnia is? I am assisting a client who has previously purchased voices and the add-on on their website isn't compatible with 2019.3.1. I thought they had released an update but obviously not. Does anyone have any ideas how we can get things working again?

Cheers,

Mo.
Re: Bugs in Chrome with NVDA 2019.3

Arlene
 

That’s cause I broke it! Lol! I hope that gets fixed!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: February 14, 2020 5:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Bugs in Chrome with NVDA 2019.3

 

Hello,

I updated to NVDA 2019.3, and sites on Chrome are broken. These problems did not happen with NVDA 2019.2.1:

I am unable to look at publications on the following site after hitting enter on " + Conference Papers":

https://www.ski.org/lab/coughlan-lab

 

When someone calls me on Google Hangouts, I am unable to hear the "Hang up" or "Answer call" button when I tab around.

 

Often, on almost every website, when I click a link, the screen does not refresh for some of the links.

For example:

https://lenovo.com/

Click on "Laptops". Visually the screen refreshes, but the screen doesn't refresh for NVDA until I switch windows and come back.

 

On Google Docs and Google Sheets, when a sheet or doc opens with braille support disabled, NVDA says "blank" before every item.

 

In Gmail, sometimes when I open a message, the message is blank but for a blank clickable element on mail.google.com. I need to repeatedly refresh the screen for the content to show to NVDA. The content is there visually.

 

I am unable to open PDFs in Gmail in the default viewer.

 

Often the buttons for attachments show as disabled, but when I click on "Download", even if it says it's disabled, the document downloads.

 

These are just a handful of problems I have encountered.

 

I'm using Chrome Version 80.0.3987.106 (Official Build) (64-bit).

Thank you,

 

 
Re: eloquence suggestions

Gene
 

I should have said, the free Eloquence add-on.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

The Eloquence add -on is not legal and it is not allowed to discuss it on the list.  It is for the protection of the list.  If the wrong person sees discussions of illegal software, the list may be shut down.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

What is the difference between the two versions?
Daniel Hawkins



On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I currently use the NVDA paid version. Works well for me.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew
Bugs in Chrome with NVDA 2019.3

Brandon Keith Biggs
 

Hello,

I updated to NVDA 2019.3, and sites on Chrome are broken. These problems did not happen with NVDA 2019.2.1:

I am unable to look at publications on the following site after hitting enter on " + Conference Papers":

https://www.ski.org/lab/coughlan-lab

 

When someone calls me on Google Hangouts, I am unable to hear the "Hang up" or "Answer call" button when I tab around.

 

Often, on almost every website, when I click a link, the screen does not refresh for some of the links.

For example:

https://lenovo.com/

Click on "Laptops". Visually the screen refreshes, but the screen doesn't refresh for NVDA until I switch windows and come back.

 

On Google Docs and Google Sheets, when a sheet or doc opens with braille support disabled, NVDA says "blank" before every item.

 

In Gmail, sometimes when I open a message, the message is blank but for a blank clickable element on mail.google.com. I need to repeatedly refresh the screen for the content to show to NVDA. The content is there visually.

 

I am unable to open PDFs in Gmail in the default viewer.

 

Often the buttons for attachments show as disabled, but when I click on "Download", even if it says it's disabled, the document downloads.

 

These are just a handful of problems I have encountered.

 

I'm using Chrome Version 80.0.3987.106 (Official Build) (64-bit).

Thank you,
Re: latest nvda and one core voice

Luke Robinett
 

Oh that David, such a joker. Lol

On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

Just installed the latest version of NVDA on my win 10 system. Withe the default one core voice david I get a strange when arrowing around on the desktop. NVDA reads the name of the icon followed by a strange noise. Change the one core voice to Mark and strange noise goes away.
Re: vocalizer for nvda

Mike Sedmak
 

I bought the vocalizer driver from ATguys several years ago. They did
help me connect with the vendor to sort out a license issue. I
consider them a fair and reputable source.

Mike

On 2/14/20, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
Looking to buy the vocalizer addon for nvda.
Is A T guys a good company to deal with? I ask that as they don't seem
to respond to requests for information when using their contact us on
their web site.
vocalizer for nvda

Don H
 

Looking to buy the vocalizer addon for nvda.
Is A T guys a good company to deal with? I ask that as they don't seem to respond to requests for information when using their contact us on their web site.
Re: VLC? was: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

JM Casey
 

I believe you can use VLC to do this, but the process is a bit unintuitive. I have never attempted it but have seen some instructions online on how it can be done. Unfortunately some of the VlC screens do not give much feedback through a screen-reader. For something like this purpose, feedback shouldn’t’ be needed – but you need to be pretty clear on what steps to take.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: February 14, 2020 2:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: VLC? was: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

 

I never used VLC.  I did not know it was possible to play Youtube videos in other players.  Did VLC stream or download the files?  Could you save the whole file locally?  I wondered if it could be used to download and save Youtube videos for offline viewing.

 

I know there are Youtube dowloaders but they have drawbacks.  Would be wonderful to speed up playback of some Youtube tracks.

 

 

Bob

 

On 2020-02-13 1:39 a.m., Ian Blackburn wrote:

Thank you for all of that but I want to learn how to speed up the playback of YouTube videos using NVDA

Are used to put them into VLC media player But if the YouTube is part of a playlist VLC media player no longer seems to play it

I liked that player because I could speed up and slow down the playback pause and do all sorts of media type things with the video Stream

I’ll talk to sighted people and they say that there is a way of doing that on the normal YouTube videos screen that comes up But I haven’t yet worked out how to do it with NVDA by the way I’m using Mozilla Firefox And Windows 10 with all updates applied

Kind regards Ian



On 13 Feb 2020, at 4:15 pm, Easwaran Chinraj <easwarchinraj@...> wrote:



Dear sir,
First of all my apologies for my mistakeful English. I am using Youtube daily. So, please read the following fully.

If you feel the following is confusing, I have mentioned the very very basic style of navigation at the bottom of this reply which I was used when I was started to use YouTube with NVDA.

Open a browser and press Ctrl + L and type or copy and paste the below url.

youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

and press enter key. It will open the subscriptions page to see the videos from the channels you have subscribed.

After the page loads, press D until you hear Main Landmark Today Heading Level 2

This puts you in the main part of the webpage.

Then pressing 3 key will help you to read the title of the first video and again pressing 3 key will read the next and so on. Pressing Shift + 3 will work in vice versa (reverse).

After moving the navigation to the video you like, press space bar key or Enter key to play the video. A new page is loaded and the selected video will start to play in the next page.

The Title of the video which is currently playing will be in Heading 1 level. So, pressing 1 or Shift + 1 will tells you the current playing video's title.

To jump to the current playing video's player controls, press D or Shift +d until NVDA says Main Landmark. Then pressing the tab key will change the controls to the slider, pause, mute, next, settings, etc. Shift + tab for moving vice versa. (Or B key to navigate by buttons such as play, pause, next, mute, etc.)

You said "When watching a video in Youtube, she used to move the mouse to the videos listed on the right side of the Youtube page and click on the mouse, to go to the next or another video. NVDA would read the content of the videos...".

For that see the following:
Pressing 3 will tell the title of the suggested videos (which is on the right side) one by one. Shift + 3 for vice versa.

Pressing Enter or Space bar will play that video.

If you feel the above was confusing, simply press H key or Shift + H key to navigate by headings (video titles). D or Shift D for Landmarks, B or Shift B for buttons such as play, pause, action, like, dislike etc.

Hope I haven't confused you much and I hope it will surely help you.

If you have any other questions, feel free to reply me (your brother). Thank you sir.

With affection
Easwar Chinraj
Re: VLC? was: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Vlc has a record feature that will record the video as it is playing.

There are many things that you can do with VLC

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 2:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: VLC? was: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

 

I never used VLC.  I did not know it was possible to play Youtube videos in other players.  Did VLC stream or download the files?  Could you save the whole file locally?  I wondered if it could be used to download and save Youtube videos for offline viewing.

 

I know there are Youtube dowloaders but they have drawbacks.  Would be wonderful to speed up playback of some Youtube tracks.

 

 

Bob

 

On 2020-02-13 1:39 a.m., Ian Blackburn wrote:

Thank you for all of that but I want to learn how to speed up the playback of YouTube videos using NVDA

Are used to put them into VLC media player But if the YouTube is part of a playlist VLC media player no longer seems to play it

I liked that player because I could speed up and slow down the playback pause and do all sorts of media type things with the video Stream

I’ll talk to sighted people and they say that there is a way of doing that on the normal YouTube videos screen that comes up But I haven’t yet worked out how to do it with NVDA by the way I’m using Mozilla Firefox And Windows 10 with all updates applied

Kind regards Ian



On 13 Feb 2020, at 4:15 pm, Easwaran Chinraj <easwarchinraj@...> wrote:



Dear sir,
First of all my apologies for my mistakeful English. I am using Youtube daily. So, please read the following fully.

If you feel the following is confusing, I have mentioned the very very basic style of navigation at the bottom of this reply which I was used when I was started to use YouTube with NVDA.

Open a browser and press Ctrl + L and type or copy and paste the below url.

youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

and press enter key. It will open the subscriptions page to see the videos from the channels you have subscribed.

After the page loads, press D until you hear Main Landmark Today Heading Level 2

This puts you in the main part of the webpage.

Then pressing 3 key will help you to read the title of the first video and again pressing 3 key will read the next and so on. Pressing Shift + 3 will work in vice versa (reverse).

After moving the navigation to the video you like, press space bar key or Enter key to play the video. A new page is loaded and the selected video will start to play in the next page.

The Title of the video which is currently playing will be in Heading 1 level. So, pressing 1 or Shift + 1 will tells you the current playing video's title.

To jump to the current playing video's player controls, press D or Shift +d until NVDA says Main Landmark. Then pressing the tab key will change the controls to the slider, pause, mute, next, settings, etc. Shift + tab for moving vice versa. (Or B key to navigate by buttons such as play, pause, next, mute, etc.)

You said "When watching a video in Youtube, she used to move the mouse to the videos listed on the right side of the Youtube page and click on the mouse, to go to the next or another video. NVDA would read the content of the videos...".

For that see the following:
Pressing 3 will tell the title of the suggested videos (which is on the right side) one by one. Shift + 3 for vice versa.

Pressing Enter or Space bar will play that video.

If you feel the above was confusing, simply press H key or Shift + H key to navigate by headings (video titles). D or Shift D for Landmarks, B or Shift B for buttons such as play, pause, action, like, dislike etc.

Hope I haven't confused you much and I hope it will surely help you.

If you have any other questions, feel free to reply me (your brother). Thank you sir.

With affection
Easwar Chinraj
Re: eloquence suggestions

Sam Bushman
 

I use the paid version of the NVDA plugin from Code Factory.

The point is I use the NVDA version not the sapi version.

Any version of elliquence that is not paid for is illegal and I am against it.

Thanks,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

 

The Eloquence add -on is not legal and it is not allowed to discuss it on the list.  It is for the protection of the list.  If the wrong person sees discussions of illegal software, the list may be shut down.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 8:13 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

 

What is the difference between the two versions?

Daniel Hawkins

 

 



On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

 

I currently use the NVDA paid version. Works well for me.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew






 
Re: latest nvda and google chrome

Sarah k Alawami
 

Have you tried up and down arrowing to get the link to wirk then press enter. I have this issue on most web page bassed layouts.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 14 Feb 2020, at 9:37, Don H wrote:

I am having issues with Nvda 2019.3.1 not working will with some web pages when using the latest version of Google chrome. On the medicare.cov web site you can not get links to activate. Works fine when using Jaws 2020.
Re: how to enable hidden files in Windows 10

Sarah k Alawami
 

Huh? I never did it hrough control panel. I went hrough tools, folder options and control tab once. Then tabbed to the tree view and checked show hidden files etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 14 Feb 2020, at 6:21, Brian Vogel wrote:

And for the record, what one does to show/hide hidden files has remained the same for a very, very long time now.  It didn't change under Windows 10 one iota.

Control Panel, File Explorer Options, View Tab, and activate either the Show hidden files, folders, and drives radio button or its Don't show sibling.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 
Re: eloquence suggestions

Gene
 

The Eloquence add -on is not legal and it is not allowed to discuss it on the list.  It is for the protection of the list.  If the wrong person sees discussions of illegal software, the list may be shut down.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

What is the difference between the two versions?
Daniel Hawkins



On Feb 14, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...> wrote:

I currently use the NVDA paid version. Works well for me.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] eloquence suggestions

i want to use eloquence with the latest version of nvda.  does anyone have any suggestions as to the best version to get, free and or paid? thanks


stew
Weather_Plus7.4 update available

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi to every one,


Changes in this version:
• Fixed a bug in a city search function.

Weather_Plus can update itself, or can be downloaded from:
https://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus7.4.nvda-addon
or from:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/Weather_Plus.en.html

Thanks toNoelia, Abdel, Rémy, Zvonimir and every translators for their great support.


Regards
Adriano
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