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Running NVDA on a Mac, virtualized (was Re: [nvda] Waltr2)

Jason White
 

While we’re in the digression, I’ve intended to ask this question for a while:

How well does NVDA run in a virtual machine on a Mac? In particular, if you have a braille display, is it possible to switch it smoothly between the Mac OS host and the Windows guest running NVDA?

 

I have a Mac (in fact, I’m writing this message with it), but it probably doesn’t have enough memory to run Windows virtualized. If I upgrade it at some point, though, one of my options would be to use Mac OS for most work and to run a virtualized Windows guest just when necessary. I’m well aware that VMWare, Parallels, and VirtualBox are all available for the Mac, and that Bootcamp allows you to set up a dual-boot arrangement also. There are options.

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Friday, February 21, 2020 at 19:54
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Waltr2

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 07:38 PM, Ian Blackburn wrote:

This really isn’t related to nvda

Indeed.  And you have only yours truly to blame for having triggered this digression, for which I apologize.  I should have taken it to the Chat Subgroup.
 
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Re: Waltr2

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 07:38 PM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
This really isn’t related to nvda
Indeed.  And you have only yours truly to blame for having triggered this digression, for which I apologize.  I should have taken it to the Chat Subgroup.
 
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Re: installing the Alan voice

Roger Stewart
 

Also, you need the English Language pack.

Roger

On 2/21/2020 4:44 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Well yes, but first You need the driver the RH voice nvda addon.

On 21/02/2020 22:35, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I think so. Isn't Alan just a voice?



On 2/21/2020 2:32 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   do You have the addon for the sinth installed?

On 21/02/2020 22:22, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I hit enter on the add-on but it wouldn't install. What do I do now?



On 2/21/2020 2:01 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   OK just hit enter on the addon and as long as nvda is running it should just install.

On 21/02/2020 03:37, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


How do I install the RH voice Alan to the other voices? It's in the add-ons list but I can't install it. I forgot how to add an extra voice.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie










Re: Waltr2

Ian Blackburn
 

You use the finder in Catalina to sync your devices
This really isn’t related to nvda



On 22 Feb 2020, at 8:07 am, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:



Well they redesigned the Music app on Mac OS Catalina. I don’t own a Mac so I can’t say how you sync your I devices etc.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 7:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Waltr2

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:51 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its no long available on the Mac.

So what is Apple replacing it with?  I can't believe they'd drop iTunes without a replacement of some sort (but stranger things have happened).
 
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Re: Waltr2

Mary Otten
 

They just broke up iTunes, so you have a music app and podcasts et al. Apple is not dumping that big revenue stream!


And per Jonathan Mosen, Waaltr II is accessible with JAWS, so this may be an NVDA thing or an operator error. I've not tried this app, so I have 0 personal experience.


Mary

On 2/21/2020 4:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:51 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Its no long available on the Mac.
So what is Apple replacing it with?  I can't believe they'd drop iTunes without a replacement of some sort (but stranger things have happened).
 
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Waltr2

Lino Morales
 

Well they redesigned the Music app on Mac OS Catalina. I don’t own a Mac so I can’t say how you sync your I devices etc.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 7:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Waltr2

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:51 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its no long available on the Mac.

So what is Apple replacing it with?  I can't believe they'd drop iTunes without a replacement of some sort (but stranger things have happened).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

 


Re: Waltr2

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:51 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Its no long available on the Mac.
So what is Apple replacing it with?  I can't believe they'd drop iTunes without a replacement of some sort (but stranger things have happened).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Waltr2

Lino Morales
 

You can still use iTunes for Windows. Its no long available on the Mac.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 6:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Waltr2

 

has any consideration been made concerning adding accessibility to this app  that replaces iTunes?

******
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep picking it back up!

 


Re: Waltr2

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 06:30 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
has any consideration been made concerning adding accessibility to this app  that replaces iTunes?
That would be a question for Softorino, don't you think?

Virtually any screen reader you can name can work on top of Windows programs written using what are now common coding conventions.  When accessibility is bad to completely broken it's generally because they're not doing so.  Ensuring accessibility starts with the maker of any given program.
 
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Waltr2

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

has any consideration been made concerning adding accessibility to this app  that replaces iTunes?
******
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep picking it back up!


Re: installing the Alan voice

Kevin Cussick
 

Well yes, but first You need the driver the RH voice nvda addon.

On 21/02/2020 22:35, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I think so. Isn't Alan just a voice?
On 2/21/2020 2:32 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   do You have the addon for the sinth installed?

On 21/02/2020 22:22, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I hit enter on the add-on but it wouldn't install. What do I do now?



On 2/21/2020 2:01 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   OK just hit enter on the addon and as long as nvda is running it should just install.

On 21/02/2020 03:37, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


How do I install the RH voice Alan to the other voices? It's in the add-ons list but I can't install it. I forgot how to add an extra voice.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie









Re: installing the Alan voice

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I think so. Isn't Alan just a voice?

On 2/21/2020 2:32 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   do You have the addon for the sinth installed?

On 21/02/2020 22:22, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I hit enter on the add-on but it wouldn't install. What do I do now?



On 2/21/2020 2:01 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   OK just hit enter on the addon and as long as nvda is running it should just install.

On 21/02/2020 03:37, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


How do I install the RH voice Alan to the other voices? It's in the add-ons list but I can't install it. I forgot how to add an extra voice.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie








Re: installing the Alan voice

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, do You have the addon for the sinth installed?

On 21/02/2020 22:22, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I hit enter on the add-on but it wouldn't install. What do I do now?
On 2/21/2020 2:01 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   OK just hit enter on the addon and as long as nvda is running it should just install.

On 21/02/2020 03:37, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


How do I install the RH voice Alan to the other voices? It's in the add-ons list but I can't install it. I forgot how to add an extra voice.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie







Re: installing the Alan voice

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I hit enter on the add-on but it wouldn't install. What do I do now?

On 2/21/2020 2:01 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   OK just hit enter on the addon and as long as nvda is running it should just install.

On 21/02/2020 03:37, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


How do I install the RH voice Alan to the other voices? It's in the add-ons list but I can't install it. I forgot how to add an extra voice.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie






Re: installing the Alan voice

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, OK just hit enter on the addon and as long as nvda is running it should just install.

On 21/02/2020 03:37, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
How do I install the RH voice Alan to the other voices? It's in the add-ons list but I can't install it. I forgot how to add an extra voice.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie


Re: Number and Abbrieviation Processing

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Day:  I apologize for seeing your message a little late.  Is it possible to turn off date process and/or number processing?

Dave


On 2/13/2020 5:26 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
It can be done with NVDA's speech dictionary.  You'd need to use a "regular expression" (regex) to avoid having enter every possible combination of numbers.  Actually another way (since I haven't ever sat down and properly learned regex, and I haven't fully thought this through) I just tried, is to make a speech dictionary entry to change "." (period or full stop, no quotes) to "dot" (d o t, again no quotes).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:30 AM Gary <ironmangary@...> wrote:
I don't know if this is two issues or one and if it's something that
can be done within NVDA.  I use the Windows core voices synthesizer,
although it occurs with the Microsoft SAPI synth as well.  I do not
want dates or abbreviations to be processed.  For example, the latest
version of NVDA, 2019.03.01 is read as "March 1, 2019" instead of
"2019 dot 03 dot 01".  Additionally, I am hearing hello.pl as "hello
dot place" instead of "hello dot p l."  Obviously, I know I can use
the dictionary to teach NVDA to read "pl" as "p l" but there seems to
be dozens of these abbreviations.  I look at software versions all day
so the first example is driving me crazy.

Is there a way within NVDA to say ignore date processing and
abbreviation processing?  I definitely have been unsuccessful finding
how this would be done with the synthesizer software.  If there is a
synthesizer that has this level of control that won't hit my wallet
too hard and actually has a real sounding voice, I'd be interested in
going that route if it's my only option.

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

Gary





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Re: nvda key q to quit or restart

Sarah k Alawami
 

Your control key might be stuck virtually. I've ben getting this since an updating January and it has not be fixed with every update LTHEREAFTER, , in fact it is getting worse. This I don't think is an nvda issue hence I would report this to Microsoft. I already sent feedback with windows f.

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On 21 Feb 2020, at 6:33, Brian Vogel wrote:

Have you done a full uninstall, reboot (using Restart if you have Fast Startup enabled under Windows 10), and reinstall from a fresh copy of the installer?   If you haven't, you should.

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Re: nvda key q to quit or restart

brice Mijares
 

Problem solved. Uninstalled and reinstalled and everything is right so far. Thanks to all.

On 2/21/2020 11:17 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


Make sure your copy under general settings is set to log in debug and save your settings.


You can grab the old log  pressing the windows key + letter R then by typing %temp% then press the enter key.

Then locate the nvda old log.

Then it can be added to a ticket or a ticket made etc.

If you do make a ticket make sure you put down all the details to recreate the problem etc version of nvda operating system and so on.


If you want to try and catch it before a reboot press the nvda key + f1 key then save the log.


Gene nz


On 22/02/2020 2:55 am, brice Mijares wrote:
Ever since the latest update to NVDA, messages in Thunderbird won't read, selecting text, files and folders and the copy or cut command won't work. NVDA key q don't work, so I have to hold down the control key alt key and hit n twice rapidly.  How would I get a copy of the log file if this is happening every time I boot my system? Thanks.




Re: nvda key q to quit or restart

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Make sure your copy under general settings is set to log in debug and save your settings.


You can grab the old log  pressing the windows key + letter R then by typing %temp% then press the enter key.

Then locate the nvda old log.

Then it can be added to a ticket or a ticket made etc.

If you do make a ticket make sure you put down all the details to recreate the problem etc version of nvda operating system and so on.


If you want to try and catch it before a reboot press the nvda key + f1 key then save the log.


Gene nz

On 22/02/2020 2:55 am, brice Mijares wrote:
Ever since the latest update to NVDA, messages in Thunderbird won't read, selecting text, files and folders and the copy or cut command won't work. NVDA key q don't work, so I have to hold down the control key alt key and hit n twice rapidly.  How would I get a copy of the log file if this is happening every time I boot my system? Thanks.



Re: Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

Arlene
 

William, are you using the latest updates in windows ten?  I don’t know if this is true. I don’t think its accessible for ten. If it is. You may have to tweek it for you to make it work. I heard it works quite well with windows 7.  I think if you down grade Pot player  it will probably work for you.  

 

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From: zahra
Sent: February 21, 2020 4:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

hello.

and thanks for suggestions of everyone that helped us to make pot

player accessible again.

the last version of pot player is 200204.

today i downloaded and installed it on my windows xp.

both bringing preferences by f5 and using context menu with

application key are accessible.

God bless you all!

 

On 2/20/20, William Wong <sine.kazurin@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

> and came across the following issues with nvda.

> 1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the

> context menu

> 2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences

> 3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on

> that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.

> I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.

> Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and

> copy the current play position to clipboard?

> Thanks,

> William

>

 

 

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