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Re: Beware anniversary update for...

Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...>
 

Windows Live Mail 2012 is not removed by the upgrade process.

On 8 Aug 2016, at 15:24, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Brian Gaff asked, "Does anyone know if it does this with Live mail versions as well?"

The Anniversary update carried over Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail 2012, and Outlook 2010 on my machine without any issue at all.

It is no surprise that it archives Outlook Express, which has not had official support in years and which runs only as a hacked version, likely using the original code base that Windows would recognize as not "automatically" compatible with Windows 10.  There are a bunch of application programs which are archived because their developers have not updated their code with what Windows 10 requires to know that it is "officially compatible" with Windows 10.  I've lost utilities like CPU-ID and a couple of other programs that will run just fine under Windows 10, but whose developers did not change the code to allow Windows 10 to recognize that it's OK to carry it along.  A lot of this stuff can be reinstalled and run just fine.  If you're accessing your e-mail using IMAP, regardless of the client, you lose nothing if that client gets archived as part of an upgrade process.
--
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         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



about ribbon disabler 3.0

P. Otter
 

hello all, there is an update availlable of the ribbondisabler version 3.

i have version 2 but i can'nt find the link to download version 3.

is there anyone who can post the link for version 3 of the ribbon disabler?

thanks in advance

paul otter


Re: Beware anniversary update for...

 

Brian Gaff asked, "Does anyone know if it does this with Live mail versions as well?"

The Anniversary update carried over Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail 2012, and Outlook 2010 on my machine without any issue at all.

It is no surprise that it archives Outlook Express, which has not had official support in years and which runs only as a hacked version, likely using the original code base that Windows would recognize as not "automatically" compatible with Windows 10.  There are a bunch of application programs which are archived because their developers have not updated their code with what Windows 10 requires to know that it is "officially compatible" with Windows 10.  I've lost utilities like CPU-ID and a couple of other programs that will run just fine under Windows 10, but whose developers did not change the code to allow Windows 10 to recognize that it's OK to carry it along.  A lot of this stuff can be reinstalled and run just fine.  If you're accessing your e-mail using IMAP, regardless of the client, you lose nothing if that client gets archived as part of an upgrade process.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Reading boxes in Microsoft Word

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Gene:
These graphics that I am speaking about are boxes wich have text in them.
Kevin Huber

On 7/29/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Kevin


I just had a look at a microsoft word tutorial I am putting together
even in browse mode as well as focus mode it will read the picture in
it. If there is no ALT text put into it you will just hear graphic.

I did put ALT text into my graphic/photo, so that is why it is read out.


Is the graphic picture or what ever it is on the web they might not have
put in ALT text to say what the graphic/photo etc is about.


Gene nz


I think with a table if there was alt text you had to use the NVDA key +
the letter D in the master snapshot.


Gene nz



On 30/07/2016 3:30 AM, Kevin Huber wrote:
Hi:

I have a Microsoft Word document with graphics contained in it. These
graphics contain text. How can I read the text within these graphics
using NVDA.
Kevin Huber


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Re: Problem with a Webvisum

Rémy Ruiz
 

Le 08/08/2016 à 15:44, Simone Dal Maso a écrit :
http://jscholes.net/webvisum-0.9.2-fx.xpi
Il 08/08/2016 15:42, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io ha scritto:
Hi.
I deleted the complement from my MeoCloud cause the signed complement
now is in the complements store in Firefox. Just download and install it.
Cheers

Saludos
Salva
kibayasd@...
He creado la lista Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo o subscríbete enviando un correo con asunto y cuerpo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@...


El 08/08/2016 a las 15:40, Kevin Huber escribió:
Hi Salva:
I just tried that link that you refer to, and I got an error message
saying that that page does not exist.
Kevin Huber

On 8/3/16, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io
<kibayasd@...> wrote:
Hi!
In other list another person asked the same question, and someone
replyed with a link to a signed complement. Try:
https://cld.pt/dl/download/459e742f-f562-4b66-9ab6-d321692b3e4f/WebVisum%7B0.9.2.1-signed%7D.xpi?download=true

Cheers
Salva

El 03/08/2016 a las 12:12, Marco Oros escribió:
Hello.
I don't know, where to post this topic. I have a problem with a
Webvisum of today, I can't instal It back.
This same problem with a signature. Strange is this, that I've turned
off this item on about:config tab.
Please, could You help me?
Or, is there another alternatives to the Webvisums?
There are some sites, when isn't there any audio captcha and I don't
want anoying another people with this thing.
Please, could You help me?
Marco Oros













Re: Problem with a Webvisum

Simone Dal Maso
 

Il 08/08/2016 15:42, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io ha scritto:
Hi.
I deleted the complement from my MeoCloud cause the signed complement
now is in the complements store in Firefox. Just download and install it.
Cheers

Saludos
Salva
kibayasd@yahoo.com
He creado la lista Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo o subscríbete enviando un correo con asunto y cuerpo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@googlegroups.com


El 08/08/2016 a las 15:40, Kevin Huber escribió:
Hi Salva:
I just tried that link that you refer to, and I got an error message
saying that that page does not exist.
Kevin Huber

On 8/3/16, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io
<kibayasd=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi!
In other list another person asked the same question, and someone
replyed with a link to a signed complement. Try:
https://cld.pt/dl/download/459e742f-f562-4b66-9ab6-d321692b3e4f/WebVisum%7B0.9.2.1-signed%7D.xpi?download=true

Cheers
Salva

El 03/08/2016 a las 12:12, Marco Oros escribió:
Hello.
I don't know, where to post this topic. I have a problem with a
Webvisum of today, I can't instal It back.
This same problem with a signature. Strange is this, that I've turned
off this item on about:config tab.
Please, could You help me?
Or, is there another alternatives to the Webvisums?
There are some sites, when isn't there any audio captcha and I don't
want anoying another people with this thing.
Please, could You help me?
Marco Oros



Re: Problem with a Webvisum

Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
 

Hi.
I deleted the complement from my MeoCloud cause the signed complement now is in the complements store in Firefox. Just download and install it.
Cheers
Saludos
Salva
kibayasd@...
He creado la lista Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo o subscríbete enviando un correo con asunto y cuerpo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@...


El 08/08/2016 a las 15:40, Kevin Huber escribió:

Hi Salva:
I just tried that link that you refer to, and I got an error message
saying that that page does not exist.
Kevin Huber

On 8/3/16, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io
<kibayasd@...> wrote:
Hi!
In other list another person asked the same question, and someone
replyed with a link to a signed complement. Try:
https://cld.pt/dl/download/459e742f-f562-4b66-9ab6-d321692b3e4f/WebVisum%7B0.9.2.1-signed%7D.xpi?download=true

Cheers
Salva

El 03/08/2016 a las 12:12, Marco Oros escribió:
Hello.
I don't know, where to post this topic. I have a problem with a
Webvisum of today, I can't instal It back.
This same problem with a signature. Strange is this, that I've turned
off this item on about:config tab.
Please, could You help me?
Or, is there another alternatives to the Webvisums?
There are some sites, when isn't there any audio captcha and I don't
want anoying another people with this thing.
Please, could You help me?
Marco Oros








Re: Problem with a Webvisum

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Salva:
I just tried that link that you refer to, and I got an error message
saying that that page does not exist.
Kevin Huber

On 8/3/16, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io
<kibayasd=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi!
In other list another person asked the same question, and someone
replyed with a link to a signed complement. Try:
https://cld.pt/dl/download/459e742f-f562-4b66-9ab6-d321692b3e4f/WebVisum%7B0.9.2.1-signed%7D.xpi?download=true

Cheers
Salva

El 03/08/2016 a las 12:12, Marco Oros escribió:
Hello.
I don't know, where to post this topic. I have a problem with a
Webvisum of today, I can't instal It back.
This same problem with a signature. Strange is this, that I've turned
off this item on about:config tab.
Please, could You help me?
Or, is there another alternatives to the Webvisums?
There are some sites, when isn't there any audio captcha and I don't
want anoying another people with this thing.
Please, could You help me?
Marco Oros



Accessibility of Salesforce with NVDA

Charlie Coyle <charlie.coyle@...>
 

Hello all,

Sorry to repost - my original email didn't seem to get through for some reason.

I hope you don't mind me posting here regarding this.

My name is Charlie and I work for Visionary - a charity which connects local sight loss charities in the UK. Our organisation are looking into using Salesforce and we were wondering if you'd be happy to share your knowledge and expertise with us on this software. Please find the questions we were hoping to get answers to below:
1. What version/s of Salesforce have you tested with which version/s of NVDA?
2. What tasks have you undertaken using it?
3. How easy have you found to use it?
4. What training were you offered (if appropriate)? What's your experience of rolling it out to staff? Learning from it?
5. What workarounds (if any) have you needed to use?
6. Was any functionality lost if using NVDA?
7. Is all functionality available using keyboard only? Or with speech control software like Dragon Naturally Speaking?
8. Overall, would you recommend it as a viable solution for access technology users? If so, why? If not, why not?

Any help you could give us on this would be very greatly appreciated!

With best wishes,

Charlie

Charlie Coyle
Development and Innovation Coordinator
Visionary - linking local sight loss charities

Email: charlie.coyle@visionary.org.uk
Website: www.visionary.org.uk
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Re: trying to recover from freeze:

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

You often get this when its taking too long to do something. It does not always mean there is a real problem only that its slow.
I think we would need to know what hardware and software were running to give even an educated guess, but I've seen this on machines where a lot of things are started as it boots.
Does it do it if, when the machine has settled down, you restart nvda


Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 2:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to recover from freeze:


Hi I was looking at my nvda.log file, and noticed that nvda was trying to recover from a freeze. I did get the error sound when nvda was started.

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:29:46):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>
I figured I would paste the information that way some one can forwared this to the developer list.
Kenny Peyatt jr.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: Beware anniversary update for...

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Hmm, well after lots of problems with defender and other sundry programs falling over for no apparent reason I've gone back to the old build.
I'll need to find a way to stop it deleting old email clients and also install classic shell before attempting it again, but I do have the little program that forces the update so I guess I can try it any time
I don't understand why its crashing stuff though.It was also very sloweven with the latest next snap.
I never got as far as command prompt or power shell.


Defender would get to 50 percent of a scan then stick and whn I cheecked an unkown error had occured, please install any windows updates reboot and try again.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware anniversary update for...


On my machine, it only seemed to have taken off classicShell, but, I reinstalled it from latest version off their site, and working fine now.


Besides that, haven't had any real issues with it as of yet?


And, for example, while suppose this might have to do with running latest master snapshot of NVDa, or windows 10 anniversary itself, the command line console is back to where it used to be a while ago - reading out text to me instead of trying to spell out characters as they were being printed, and, that's quite a good thing for me in terms of when want to do various things, including playing around with python programming language, since have been having to use review cursors to re-read the screen contents, where now can just listen to it the first time round, and then review it if I want to.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-07 7:22 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
It will delete any Email client like the recently hacked version of Outlook express without even asking, including it seems, all the email in it, or at least orphaning it off. also deleted my copy of Classic Shell as well.
Said it was not compatible but I understand a new version is on their web site.
It also seems to hve some issues with some of my existing programs which tend to lock up as far as it is concerned.

It also put Edge in as the running browser and left me to log into their outlook web mail app, which I cannot stand.
However gradually getting it sorted out and I guess one can go back to the earlier build if one wants to, but its not clear how this is achieved at the moment. I only have 10 on a test machine right now but I'd be very annoyed about its behaviour toward old or supposedly non working software if it was a machine, say with all my emails on it.
Does anyone know if it does this with Live mail versions as well?

Brian

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Re: Adding a submenu and menu items to NVDA

Shivakumar Nataraajan
 

blindsea talks

On 09/07/2016, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/8/16, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:
You can see how it is done in our addon.
Except the part of the license is open source...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: David Mehler
Data: sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2016 07:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Adding a submenu and menu items to NVDA

Hello,

Thanks for the responses.

I'm confused. Basically I'm wanting something like vocalizer does,
once I install that addon it puts a vocalizer submenu in the NVDA
menu.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 7/7/16, Paulius <paulius.leveris@gmail.com> wrote:
May he's thinking about GUI SubMenus working in WX...

2016-07-07 21:26 GMT+03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:
Hi,
Place Markers add-on does this. Essentially, you'd add a submenu when
the
global plugin starts (in its constructor or __init__ method). If this
is
done, you are responsible for removing the menu item when NVDA quits
(via
terminate method in your add-on class).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David
Mehler
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Adding a submenu and menu items to NVDA

Hello,

I know this is doable, I'm not sure how.

For purposes of training i'd like to add a custom submenu to the NVDA
menu
structure and in that custom submenu have pointers to several included
files, one text, two html that the user can select.

I'm thinking this would be some kind of addon and a global plugin.

I'm open to advice.

Thanks.
Dave.

















Re: is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

P. Otter
 

thanks man,

This revealed the information I was looking for

i've found it!

thanks for your answer.

cheers

paul otter



Op 7-8-2016 om 13:54 schreef Chris Mullins:

The folder you refer to is the NVDA installation folder. You need to be looking in the equivalent folders of your own user folder. You should look in the appdata/roaming folder.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 7 August 2016 12:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

hello brian,

i want to find the profile files i've made, and i want to copy them or import them in nvda on other 2 computers they allready run nvda install version.

but when i look at program files\nvda\systemconfig\profiles, the map is empty.

and now my question is, where can i find my self made profiles?

i don't find any of them.

i know, i can create a portable version but that is a portable version and not a install version.

in a portable version it is not possible to use the startup options.

and that's the reason to know where i can find the profiles.

cheers

paul otter



Op 7-8-2016 om 10:39 schreef Brian's Mail list account:
What happens if you use the make an installed copy from the portable
copy, doe the profiles then get transferred to the new installed version?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?


ok, but it is'nt possible to safe the profiles to import them on my
other machines?

i don't want to use a portable version on the other computers because
there are less options on a portable version.

i've allready nvda installed on the other machines.

i only want to safe the profiles.

cheers and thanks.

paul otter



Op 6-8-2016 om 16:50 schreef Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io:
hi.
yep, you can save a NVDA Portable Version and install the portable
version in the other computer and use the profiles.

Cheers
Salva

El 6 ago 2016, a las 16:02, P. Otter <pam.otter@gmail.com> escribió:

hello all,

is it possible to safe the made configuration profiles so that i
can use it on other computers?

i've 3 computers working. on all of them nvda is running.

on one i've made some profiles, i want to use them on the other
computers.

but when i look at program files\nvda\configuration\profiles, this
map is empty.

what can i do to find and safe it on a stick to implement it on the
other machines?

thanks in advance!

cheers

paul otter












Re: Software Uninstallers

Carlos
 

Hello:

Accessible software recommendations are always welcome on this list!

Thank You! For sharing any accessible software tips/recommendations!

On 8/7/2016 9:59 PM, Afrim wrote:
Hello,
I personally use Uninstaller from Puran Utilities, which is the most accessible uninstaller I've ever seen.
If you'd like, I could give a link.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All!

Thank You! To everyone who suggested Bulk Crap Uninstaller as a replacement for REVO Uninstaller.

Bulk Crap Uninstaller works great with NVDA! So, all who are not happy with REVO can go ahead and say goodbye to REVO and use Bulk Crap Uninstaller!

Thank You! To all who responded to the REVO is Inaccessible thread and gave suggestions about better uninstaller software!



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Re: Software Uninstallers

afrim maja <afrim.maja@...>
 

Hello,
I personally use Uninstaller from Puran Utilities, which is the most accessible uninstaller I've ever seen.
If you'd like, I could give a link.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All!

Thank You! To everyone who suggested Bulk Crap Uninstaller as a replacement for REVO Uninstaller.

Bulk Crap Uninstaller works great with NVDA! So, all who are not happy with REVO can go ahead and say goodbye to REVO and use Bulk Crap Uninstaller!

Thank You! To all who responded to the REVO is Inaccessible thread and gave suggestions about better uninstaller software!



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trying to recover from freeze:

p.wildcat1234@...
 

Hi I was looking at my nvda.log file, and noticed that nvda was trying to recover from a freeze. I did get the error sound when nvda was started.

 

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:29:46):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module>

I figured I would paste the information that way some one can forwared this to the developer list.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Outlook 2016 issue

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi George,

At this stage, it's a known issue with recent updates to Outlook - someone posted the exact version it changed on here recently so theoretically if you can rollback to before that update and prevent Outlook from updating, it will stop that.  Otherwise Gene's solution is the most effective for now.

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Does that mean that you did this before asking for a solution?  Please state in future if you have already found a solution and what it is when asking such questions.  It may save people time and effort in duplicating a solution you have already found.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue

We did exactly that so the guy can get his work done.  I just wondered if there was a more elligant solution.
 
George
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue
 
It may not help but you could try putting the phrase in the speech dictionary and then placing a space in the pronounced as field.  Do you hear these announcements when you use read current line or only when you move?  If you hear them using read current line, then have the announcements spelled to make sure you get all the characters and spaces where they should be.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue
 

I have the same problem.  I posted about it on this list several days ago.

 

To the best of  my knowledge there is no way to get rid of this annoying notation.

 

Dan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue

 

A friend of mine is running windows 10 64 bit professional.  He has not received the anniversary update.  He is running outlook 2016 via office 365.  He is running nvda 2016.2.1.  He has the latest wintenapps add-on.

 

When he arrows down through his list of messages, the following is prepended to each listing:

Associated Draft No Associated Drafts,

After which he hears what he expects to hear; the from and subject fields and the date received and so forth.

He can review the prepended characters with the numPad keys.  He got someone to look at his screen and they report that the prepended characters do not appear visually.

 

We tried running nvda without add-ons and uninstalling and reinstalling nvda without success.

 

Has anyone else experienced this behavior and, if so, is there a way to stop it?

 

Thanks very much for any thoughts,

George




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Re: Outlook 2016 issue

Gene
 

Does that mean that you did this before asking for a solution?  Please state in future if you have already found a solution and what it is when asking such questions.  It may save people time and effort in duplicating a solution you have already found.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue

We did exactly that so the guy can get his work done.  I just wondered if there was a more elligant solution.
 
George
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue
 
It may not help but you could try putting the phrase in the speech dictionary and then placing a space in the pronounced as field.  Do you hear these announcements when you use read current line or only when you move?  If you hear them using read current line, then have the announcements spelled to make sure you get all the characters and spaces where they should be.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue
 

I have the same problem.  I posted about it on this list several days ago.

 

To the best of  my knowledge there is no way to get rid of this annoying notation.

 

Dan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue

 

A friend of mine is running windows 10 64 bit professional.  He has not received the anniversary update.  He is running outlook 2016 via office 365.  He is running nvda 2016.2.1.  He has the latest wintenapps add-on.

 

When he arrows down through his list of messages, the following is prepended to each listing:

Associated Draft No Associated Drafts,

After which he hears what he expects to hear; the from and subject fields and the date received and so forth.

He can review the prepended characters with the numPad keys.  He got someone to look at his screen and they report that the prepended characters do not appear visually.

 

We tried running nvda without add-ons and uninstalling and reinstalling nvda without success.

 

Has anyone else experienced this behavior and, if so, is there a way to stop it?

 

Thanks very much for any thoughts,

George


Re: Outlook 2016 issue

George <slr1bpz@...>
 

We did exactly that so the guy can get his work done.  I just wondered if there was a more elligant solution.
 
George
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue
 
It may not help but you could try putting the phrase in the speech dictionary and then placing a space in the pronounced as field.  Do you hear these announcements when you use read current line or only when you move?  If you hear them using read current line, then have the announcements spelled to make sure you get all the characters and spaces where they should be.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue
 

I have the same problem.  I posted about it on this list several days ago.

 

To the best of  my knowledge there is no way to get rid of this annoying notation.

 

Dan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue

 

A friend of mine is running windows 10 64 bit professional.  He has not received the anniversary update.  He is running outlook 2016 via office 365.  He is running nvda 2016.2.1.  He has the latest wintenapps add-on.

 

When he arrows down through his list of messages, the following is prepended to each listing:

Associated Draft No Associated Drafts,

After which he hears what he expects to hear; the from and subject fields and the date received and so forth.

He can review the prepended characters with the numPad keys.  He got someone to look at his screen and they report that the prepended characters do not appear visually.

 

We tried running nvda without add-ons and uninstalling and reinstalling nvda without success.

 

Has anyone else experienced this behavior and, if so, is there a way to stop it?

 

Thanks very much for any thoughts,

George


Re: Possible keyboard echo issues, can anyone confirm or deny, please?

Andre Fisher
 

This happens in Internet Explorer fields like Google Search as well.

On 8/2/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
By the keyboard issue, I now know you mean the issue of reading the
uncorrected text. But you already know you corrected it so why go through
all the trouble and time of uninstalling the old program, installing the new
program, importing the account or creating it, and learning the new layout?
If you want to do so, that's your decision but that's a lot of time to spend
to correct what I consider to be a very small problem. And if you want to
be sure you corrected a word as you intend, just move back to hear it with
control left arrow.
The cursor will be at the beginning of the word, as I expect you know and
what is actually on the screen will be spoken. then jump to the end of the
word with control right arrow. You should be back where you started. So if
you jump back a word after you write it and space, using control right arrow
will place you in position to write the next word.

Also, one person has indicated that in the anniversary edition of Windows
10, the mail app works much bbetter. It might make more sense to wait until
you are upgraded, download a current snapshot of NVDA and try the app. I
don't know what there may be to learn about using it but it can't be
difficult.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible keyboard echo issues, can anyone confirm or
deny, please?


1) No, it doesn't happen anywhere else. 2) When I send the email, it looks
fine, and it's fine when reading, too. 3) Yes, I can.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 3 Aug 2016, at 12:13 am, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org>
wrote:


Can you confirm please:


1) Is this happening in any other program (eg notepad, Word etc)
2) Is the text actually being corrected (ie if you copy the text into say
notepad, is the letter you thought you deleted there or not)
3) Can you perform the same correction in other programs (eg notepad)


And yes, if anyone else is running the same setup and confirm whether they
are also having this issue, that would be great.


Regards


Quentin.


On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,
First, I can not be sure of this, as I have not played with it, so if
this is normal, please forgive me. But, if it is normal, it certainly is
annoying. But, in case it is not normal, here's what's happening.
I have installed windows live mail 2009, the one with the menus, on
windows 10. NVDA 2016.2.1, I think. I have tried this with the acapella
demo, and a few others. Now, say you're writing a message, and you make
spelling mistakes. For example, instead of an l, you write a k. No problem,
you backspace. But, at last, when you finish the word, and, press space,
speech will say hekloo or helklo, or wherever you got the k instead of the
l, instead of hello. In other words, despite the fact that I have deleted
k, the k is still pronounced by speech. I've not tried eSpeak yet, but,
honestly, when I played with outlook 2010 a little yesterday, I can't recall
outlook doing the same, and I have to admit, if it has, I'm pretty sure
others would have raised it by now.
So my questions:
1) Is this a bug, or normal?
2) Is there some sort of a work around, other than changing clients?
Thanks!

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