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corona software update
Hi all.
This is just a small update in case you either didn't notice, are to sick to notice or to busy shooting zombies in undead-assault. Skype uwp is being replaced by electron according to winaero.com. There will be a few things missing but the latest preview for insiders is electron and it will eventually all be from the store. On one hand we will lose the desktop version but on the other hand, we get a better universal version. Amd and nvidia have drivers that are updated for this month. Its worth noting that if you are offered this that on edge it may crash with netflicks, the changelog said microsoft edge but I am unsure if thats chromium or the old edge. Dropbox has an update. Some windows versions have an update. And according to windows update twitter support for windows 1709 on enterprise and business systems is being pushed back to october this year. More general news on the chat. I technically could put all of this on chat but thought that I should split the technical and non technical parts of this
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Re: Add-on networkStrenght
#addonrelease
abdul muhamin
I’m using wi fi, and it happens every ware, instead of telling me the network strength, it is behaving differently. for clearly verify the problem, you can check it by connecting with me via NVDA remote
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on networkStrenght #AddonRelease
Hello!
That is strange... Do you are connected wirelessly? In other windows, like File explorer, it works?
Best regards,
Rui Fontes
Às 15:17 de 19/03/2020, abdul muhamin escreveu:
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Windows Training for free, for anyone who is looking for something to do during this time.
Martin O'Sullivan
Here is some free training for people who are stook at home If you want to share it on your facebook page, or email list. Kathy Ann Murtha offers daily Windows 10 lessons, from 18 March through 18 April 2020 via Zoom at 19:30 GMT. The site lists the lesson topics for each day. Lessons are an hour long with a half-hour for instruction and a half-hour for discussion: https://zoom.us/j/535235045 March 20 – The Windows Desktop March 23-26 No Classes March 27 – WordPad Display and Ribbons March 30 – Windows Text Navigation, Cursor Placement, Delete Text March 31 – Text Selection, Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete and Undo April 1 – WordPad Backstage and the Save As dialog April 2 – Font Attributes and Document Formatting April 3 – Bullet and Numbered Lists April 6 – File Explorer Introduction, Configure File Explorer, Views and Navigating File Explorer April 7 – Select and organize File Explorer Documents April 8 – File Explorer Instant Search and the Search Ribbon April 9 – File Explorer Address Bar, Quick Access and Columns April 10 – Set Default Applications and Open Documents in Alternative Applications April 13 – The Run Dialog April 14 – Windows Desktop Shortcuts and Icon Properties April 15 – Windows SendTo April 16 – The Recycle Bin April 17 – Uninstall or Repair Applications April 18 – Virtual Desktops -- Martin O'Sullivan "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." Hélder Câmara "Act your way into a feeling don’t feel your way into Action" (Gandhi) "Be the change you want to see in the world." (Gandhi) "We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." (Elie Wiesel ) Tel: +353878289243 E-mail osumartin@... APT 29 Falcons View Blanchardstown Centre Blanchardstown D15 VK88 Co Dublin Ireland
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Re: Schoolology
Cordelia Scharpf
Hi, Quentin: I had a look at this website using Firefox 74and NVDA 2019.3.1. It feels very accessible but I would need to look at specific teaching/learning materials to know if those would be accessible.
Cordelia
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Thanks Nimer,
I got the question from someone who was going to be using it later this year, so I don't think they've tried it yet and were just looking to see if there were any tips from the outset.
Regards Quentin.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:10 AM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: Schoolology
Anyone working in academia, particularly colleges/universities, virtually all of which are using web-based course management software, should make a point of telling the powers that be that a "sandbox system" that allows for accessibility training for individual students needs to exist.
How difficult can it be to create a couple of faux classes, with faux assignments, documents, and the like to allow for practice with the system with screen readers? Yet many are shocked when the idea is suggested. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Schoolology
Jay Pellis
Hello all Wondering the same. Teaching a foreign exchange student next week but her assignments won't be up until end of month. Hopefully I can at least explore the site with her. Her school laptop does have some kind of security protection but hope I can at least change default voice for her as well as use Edge if firefox or chrome are not installed. Thanks Jay
Jay Pellis Electronic Saxophonist pellisjmusic@... Music Demos
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Re: Schoolology
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 07:10 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
but a lot depends on the content the teacher decides to use.When I was working with graduate students this was the biggest issue, not the specific course management system (web-based) being used. The number of scanned PDFs that predate the era when OCR was "automatically done" is huge, and a great many (including some who are the so-called disability services specialists) have no idea about this. It's not that it's not easy to post-process these to OCR them, but when students encounter ones that have never been done that should be done, promptly, for the documents that are used in the central repository, otherwise it remains something that students have to do themselves over and over and over again when it could have been done by "the powers that be" once, and be there ever after. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Schoolology
Quentin Christensen
Thanks Nimer, I got the question from someone who was going to be using it later this year, so I don't think they've tried it yet and were just looking to see if there were any tips from the outset. Regards Quentin.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:10 AM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:
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Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Looking for some NVDA you tube audio tutorials.
Quentin Christensen
Hi Ron, Probably one of the best resources for a Jaws users coming over to NVDA is the Switching from Jaws to NVDA guide. It's a text page rather than video, but has a lot of useful information: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA NV Access also has training material. The Basic Training for NVDA is available in human-read audio which might interest you: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-downloadable-audio/ (it's also available in electronic text and hardcopy Braille, from the shop if you prefer: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/) While we have a YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9Rrmf97-PxqkjbzO6b-VvA it has more general information rather than specifically training material. Kind regards Quentin.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:03 AM Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@...> wrote: Hello to all, from new subscriber Ron Kolesar. --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: nvda and accessing svg element on web
Quentin Christensen
The first link was to a search of the issues for the term "svg". The second was a link to the specific issue I thought it sounded like.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:58 PM William Wong <sine.kazurin@...> wrote:
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Add-on Updater 20.03.1
#addonrelease
Hi all,
Add-on Updater 20.03.1 is now available. This release resolves an issue reported by an add-on developer where NVDA will appear to do nothing or play error tones when Add-on Updater asks NVDA to check for compatibility of add-on updates. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Schoolology
Nimer Jaber
Hello, I worked with a student on that site probably a couple of years ago. I found it relatively accessible with Firefox and Chrome, but a lot depends on the content the teacher decides to use. What specific issues are being encountered? Thanks.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:35 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
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Re: Noticed the following with NVDA and passwords.
I don't have that issue, perhaps it's because I have the chars off when I do that. I have forgotten the keystroke, but nvda 1 should get you in the right direction for the toggle, or you can access the qs found in the help menu of nvda for keyboard help. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 19 Mar 2020, at 9:40, Ron Kolesar wrote:
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Accessible Anti Virus
Bhavya shah
dear all,
I am looking for a free and accessible anti-virus program. I use Windows 8.1 and do employ Windows Defender currently, but am looking for alternatives to that. Please suggest any that might even be partially accessible or somewhat usable. I would appreciate any assistance. Best Regards, Bhavya
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Re: Another NVDA notification
Gene
You can change what is said for a period to some other word.
I’ll let others explain how to change what is said when a ;period is
seen. I haven’t experinented with it enough to describe it well. But
consider that something like period is three sylables and takes longer to
say. Dot is short, only one sylable. I’d much rather have dot
be spoken. You may want to give it a chance, perhaps a number of days and
see if you get used to it.
You can back up the dictionary file or files. Since you probably use
the installed version and I use the portable version, the file or files will be
in a different location.
As far as how to use the dictionary, do you know how to open it? Use
NVDA key n to open the menu. Up or down arrow to preferences and press
enter. You will be in a list of dictionaries you can use. You are on
default didctionary. Press enter to use it. You will now be in a
list of words. If you haven’t added any, there will be none.
Tab to the add button and press the space bar.
In the field you are in, type the word or whatever you want to change the
pronunciation of.
Tab once and type something you think will result in the pronunciation you
want. Use read current line if you want to hear it spoken.
Tab to the ok button and press the space bar. Tab again to another ok
button and press the space bar. You have added a word to the
dictionary. I won’t discuss other aspects of the dictionaries hhere.
I don’t know why you hear pane. But do you read manually line by line
or do you use read to end? If you are reading line by line, try read to
end and see what happens. Also, if you are reading mail in plain text, try
HTML or visa versa to see if that solves the problem.
I use Windows Live Mail and I have no such problem so I can’t discuss what
the cause may be or a solution I have tested.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Hello
once again to all. I noticed when reading my mail, which I'm using the Windows live mail for my mail, I'm noticing at the end of every line NVDA reads pane. And the periods as dots. Is there a way to turn these pane announcements off and also when we need to hear that there's a period at the end of a sentence, that it reads period instead of dot? Also, how can one take advantage of the pronunciations dictionary and can that file be backed up? Many thanks, Ron who'll probably have more NVDA questions for the list to come. In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
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Another NVDA notification
Ron Kolesar
Hello once again to all.
I noticed when reading my mail, which I'm using the Windows live mail for my mail, I'm noticing at the end of every line NVDA reads pane. And the periods as dots. Is there a way to turn these pane announcements off and also when we need to hear that there's a period at the end of a sentence, that it reads period instead of dot? Also, how can one take advantage of the pronunciations dictionary and can that file be backed up? Many thanks, Ron who'll probably have more NVDA questions for the list to come. In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
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Noticed the following with NVDA and passwords.
Ron Kolesar
Hello to all, from Ron Kolesar.
Noticed the following with NVDA concerning passwords. When typing a password, the first character reads as star like it is suppose to. But anything after the first character of a password reads the letter instead os saying star. How can we fix it so that NVDA will read the entire password being typed in as stars? That's all I have to report at this time. Ron KR3DOG In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
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Re: Looking for some NVDA you tube audio tutorials.
Ron Kolesar
Many thanks for the feedback Brian.
I will be checking thoughs out.
Ron KR3DOG
From: Brian
Vogel
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 11:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Looking for some NVDA you tube audio
tutorials. Ron,
I can't help with YouTube, but you should take a look at the website of fellow member Gene NZ, http://accessibilitycentral.net/ He has a lot of stuff on NVDA, programs that "play well" with NVDA, and tutorials on NVDA (though I don't know if they're audio or not). -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
In the good
old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best
Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
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Re: Add-on networkStrenght
#addonrelease
Rui Fontes
Hello!
That is strange... Do you are connected wirelessly? In other windows, like File explorer, it works?
Best regards,
Rui Fontes
Às 15:17 de 19/03/2020, abdul muhamin
escreveu:
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Re: Add-on networkStrenght
#addonrelease
abdul muhamin
Hi, here is the log.
INFO - __main__ (20:14:55.282) - MainThread (3484): Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1 INFO - core.main (20:14:55.460) - MainThread (3484): Config dir: C:\Users\abdul\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (20:14:55.461) - MainThread (3484): Loading config: C:\Users\abdul\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini INFO - core.main (20:14:55.561) - MainThread (3484): Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation INFO - core.main (20:14:55.561) - MainThread (3484): Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (20:14:55.561) - MainThread (3484): Using comtypes version 1.1.7 INFO - core.main (20:14:55.561) - MainThread (3484): Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (20:14:56.036) - MainThread (3484): Loaded synthDriver ibmeci INFO - core.main (20:14:56.036) - MainThread (3484): Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0 INFO - brailleInput.initialize (20:14:56.038) - MainThread (3484): Braille input initialized INFO - braille.initialize (20:14:56.039) - MainThread (3484): Using liblouis version 3.10.0 INFO - braille.initialize (20:14:56.042) - MainThread (3484): Using pySerial version 3.4 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (20:14:56.051) - MainThread (3484): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - core.main (20:14:56.306) - MainThread (3484): Java Access Bridge support initialized INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (20:14:56.322) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (7688): UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6 INFO - core.main (20:14:56.696) - MainThread (3484): NVDA initialized INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (20:14:56.827) - MainThread (3484): Loading config: C:\Users\abdul\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\hxoutlook.ini ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (20:14:58.459) - MainThread (3484): error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_WinConsoleUIAEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x08041E10> with extra args of {} Traceback (most recent call last): File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 291, in __init__ File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 26, in __call__ _ctypes.COMError: (-2147220991, 'An event was unable to invoke any of the subscribers', (None, None, None, 0, None))
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "review.pyc", line 26, in getObjectPosition File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "NVDAObjects\UIA\winConsoleUIA.pyc", line 49, in __init__ File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 293, in __init__ RuntimeError: No selection available
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "eventHandler.pyc", line 150, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyc", line 163, in doPreGainFocus File "api.pyc", line 147, in setFocusObject File "api.pyc", line 249, in setNavigatorObject File "review.pyc", line 124, in setCurrentMode File "review.pyc", line 30, in getObjectPosition File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "NVDAObjects\UIA\winConsoleUIA.pyc", line 30, in __init__ AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'topLeft' ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (20:14:59.791) - MainThread (3484): error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_WinConsoleUIAEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x08041DB0> with extra args of {} Traceback (most recent call last): File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 291, in __init__ File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 26, in __call__ _ctypes.COMError: (-2147220991, 'An event was unable to invoke any of the subscribers', (None, None, None, 0, None))
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "review.pyc", line 26, in getObjectPosition File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "NVDAObjects\UIA\winConsoleUIA.pyc", line 49, in __init__ File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 293, in __init__ RuntimeError: No selection available
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "eventHandler.pyc", line 150, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyc", line 163, in doPreGainFocus File "api.pyc", line 147, in setFocusObject File "api.pyc", line 249, in setNavigatorObject File "review.pyc", line 124, in setCurrentMode File "review.pyc", line 30, in getObjectPosition File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo File "NVDAObjects\UIA\winConsoleUIA.pyc", line 30, in __init__ AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'topLeft' INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (20:15:22.787) - MainThread (3484): Input help: gesture kb(laptop):leftControl INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (20:15:22.939) - MainThread (3484): Input help: gesture kb(laptop):control+NVDA INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (20:15:23.162) - MainThread (3484): Input help: gesture kb(laptop):control+NVDA+n, bound to script announceNetworkStrenght on globalPlugins.networkStrenght.GlobalPlugin INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (20:15:25.158) - MainThread (3484): Input help: gesture kb(laptop):NVDA INFO - inputCore.InputManager._handleInputHelp (20:15:25.204) - MainThread (3484): Input help: gesture kb(laptop):NVDA+1, bound to script toggleInputHelp on globalCommands.GlobalCommands INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (20:15:36.973) - MainThread (3484): Developer info for navigator object: name: ' Rui Fontes Re: [nvda] Add-on networkStrenght #AddonRelease 8:01 PM Sorry, but that is not a bug of my add-on... Please, do the following: 1 - Re-start NVDA in debug mo' role: ROLE_LISTITEM roleText: None states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED isFocusable: True hasFocus: True Python object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_MailItemRowListItemUIA object at 0x08041CF0> Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.Dynamic_MailItemRowListItemUIA'>, <class 'appModules.hxoutlook.MailItemRow'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <class 'object'>) description: '' location: RectLTWH(left=326, top=348, width=482, height=81) value: None appModule: <'hxoutlook' (appName 'hxoutlook', process ID 6852) at address 5ba8bb0> appModule.productName: 'microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps' appModule.productVersion: '16005.12527.20258.0' TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'> windowHandle: 1180654 windowClassName: 'Windows.UI.Core.CoreWindow' windowControlID: 0 windowStyle: 1409286144 extendedWindowStyle: 2621440 windowThreadID: 9584 windowText: 'Mail' displayText: '' UIAElement: <POINTER(IUIAutomationElement) ptr=0x6951e28 at 8164cb0> UIA automationID: MailItem UIA frameworkID: XAML UIA runtimeID: (42, 1180654, 4, 38) UIA providerDescription: [pid:6852,providerId:0x0 Main(parent link):Unidentified Provider (unmanaged:Windows.UI.Xaml.dll)] UIA className: MailItem UIA patterns available: CustomNavigationPattern, SelectionItemPattern, LegacyIAccessiblePattern, InvokePattern, ScrollItemPattern
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:01 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on networkStrenght #AddonRelease
Sorry, but that is not a bug of my add-on...
Please, do the following: 1 - Re-start NVDA in debug mode; 2 - Press NVDA+1, to activate keyboard help; 3 - Press NVDA+Control+n; 4 - Press NVDA+1, to deactivate keyboard help; 5 - Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer; 6 - Arrow up untill a line starting by: Input help: gesture kb(desktop):control+NVDA+n 7 - Copy the whole line and send it...
Rui Fontes
Às 14:37 de 19/03/2020, abdul muhamin escreveu:
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