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Re: Value of headers not readable in Thunderbird

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The following add on  might help at https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html

If i remember right it could also be done under the view menu then sort by. to what you wanted to hear.


The add on also is meant to make it easier to move columns that are read out in the header the old way was using the mouse to do it.


Hopefully it does the job for you.


Gene nz

On 21/03/2020 8:26 pm, john doe wrote:
Hi NVDAs,

With the latest 'next' release of NVDA and the latest release of
Thunderbird, it is not possible anymore to read the value of the header
fields of an e-mail.
For example, when using the tab key to go through the available headers,
NVDA does not speak anything for the value of the date header.

It looks like a regression because it has stopped working a while back
but can not recall when! :)

The same thing is also present with the stable release.

Am I missing something?


Any input is appriciated.

--
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Re: Q Read alternative

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


It does all it mentions and is very easy to use.


he also done the speech hub program where you could install other packages of synths like all in the one place like a hub. But the add on needs to be updated so it works with the newer nvda 2019.3


The developers name is Isaac Porat He also done a calculator program which I think is hosted off the same website.


Have not seen him on list That would be the latest version as it done all he wanted.


he does have a email list that you could contact h him on.


Gene nz



it to doRobert Kingett wrote:

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


Re: Q Read alternative

Jackie
 

I really do wish there were an alternative to QRead. I bought it at
version 3.11. The 3.21 version is now messed up so badly that it's
basically unusable, ie, the speech will not start from the last
position anymore. So I downgraded & every 2 hours I get nagged about
whether I want to update, which, obviously, h e hockeystick x 2 no, I
don't. I have tried to contact the authors about the problem w/o
success, so definitively QRead is not a program I can recommend
anymore. Would it were otherwise, because it used to be really good &
filled a large gap in terms of reading solutions, & I did indeed
recommend it highly back in the 3.11 era, as I considered $30 a really
reasonable price tag for what the program does. I just tried
contacting the developers again--guess we'll see how that goes. The
msg did go through this time so that may (or may not) be a promising
development. Perhaps the shadow still knows as regards that. The truth
is they probly weren't making enough money to make it worth their
while, & I can understand that, & I understand as well they've been
putting effort into NVDA Remote, but gosh, when an update seriously
breaks something in a program, it would be nice if that situation
could at least be remedied.

On 3/21/20, Robert Kingett <@blindjourno> wrote:
The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last
update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a
media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link,
put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html



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Re: Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


Re: Q Read alternative

David Griffith
 

                               

I know I am biased because I have done a podcast series on this fantastic app but for me the best accessible ePub Book    reader on a  PC , either paid, or free , remains by a  country mile remains the free Speak On Media Suite.

I am continually amazed it is never ever mentioned as an accessible option for reading ePub books.

 

Just to mention a few of its features.

 

Customisation of book reading voice including on the fly adjustment of reading volume and speed  of narration whilst reading a book through hotkeys. I know of no other book reader which does this.

Able to easily navigate through a book by chapter structure ,  headings, 50 lines, paragraph, sentence line word or character.

Ability to easily set markers in text of ePub books and copy and paste this text out of Speak On into a Word Processor.

Alternatively control a and control c will copy the chapter as text.

Ability to get single key press on book location and information.

Ability to resume reading from last position read on any book even if file location has changed.

Bookmark management  - ability to set and delete bookmarks.

It even has a virtual book creation function based on a search term which is incredibly  useful for study purposes.

Suppose you have a long academic book you need to search through to study a topic, you can in Speak On define a search term and Speak On will produce a smaller "virtual eBook” which will consists only of the chapters which contain the key phrase or terms in your defined search pattern. Again I know of no other accessible eBook reader which contains this feature.

David Griffith

 

 

Just to mention just a few of the features.

 

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From: Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 March 2020 00:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

Another option is to install Thorium Reader from the Microsoft Store. It supports EPUB books. Bookshare can be set so that it provides downloads in EPUB format.

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Kingett <kingettr@...>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 09:26
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

I wanted to share an open source Q Read alternative called Bookworm. It does not have bookshare support yet, nor does it support links, and headings, or tables, but still. It's a free option. The main website is below, where you can also read the manual.

I'm adding this to the accessible apps github page when I have a moment.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/

 


Re: Acapella

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hi Jesse,

I'm having exactly the same issue. I've already sent an email describing this problem to the address found on the site of the add-on. I suggest you should do the same, this increases the chances that someone might look into it. I've also noticed that as long as the Acapela add-on is installed, the exit sound doesn't play when I unload NVDA. Only the exit sound, not the start-up one. As soon as I uninstall the add-on, the exit sound comes back as it had never been gone. It would be good to let them know if by any chance you notice the same behaviour.

Best regards,

Vlad.


Re: Q Read alternative

Jason White
 

Another option is to install Thorium Reader from the Microsoft Store. It supports EPUB books. Bookshare can be set so that it provides downloads in EPUB format.

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Kingett <kingettr@...>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 09:26
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

I wanted to share an open source Q Read alternative called Bookworm. It does not have bookshare support yet, nor does it support links, and headings, or tables, but still. It's a free option. The main website is below, where you can also read the manual.

I'm adding this to the accessible apps github page when I have a moment.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/


Re: Q Read alternative

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I have this but it does not read text files.

On 21/03/2020 20:36, Mallard wrote:
Oh, thanks millions!
I have Qread, bought at the very beginning of its life, but I-m always interested in ebook realing programmes.
Ciao,
Ollie
On 18/03/2020 14:26, Robert Kingett wrote:

I wanted to share an open source Q Read alternative called Bookworm. It does not have bookshare support yet, nor does it support links, and headings, or tables, but still. It's a free option. The main website is below, where you can also read the manual.

I'm adding this to the accessible apps github page when I have a moment.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/


Re: Q Read alternative

Daniel Damacena
 

It would be so great if it respected the original formatting!

I explain: it includes line breaks to make it more suitable for low vision users, but it makes you unable to navigate by paragraphs or sentences.

I wish it has an option to choose between the original formatting and suitable for low vision users...

But, off course, it is extremely good to read continuously!

Em 21/03/2020 18:06, Mallard escreveu:

Many thanks.

I-ve downloaded BookWorm, both installer and portable.

Ciao,

Ollie




On 21/03/2020 21:48, Robert Kingett wrote:

The initial developer didn't fix the broken manual link so I've included the correct link below. I left a PR though on their git page.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/guide/


Re: Q Read alternative

Mallard
 

Many thanks.

I-ve downloaded BookWorm, both installer and portable.

Ciao,

Ollie

On 21/03/2020 21:48, Robert Kingett wrote:

The initial developer didn't fix the broken manual link so I've included the correct link below. I left a PR though on their git page.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/guide/


Re: Q Read alternative

 

The initial developer didn't fix the broken manual link so I've included the correct link below. I left a PR though on their git page.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/guide/


Re: Q Read alternative

Mallard
 

Oh, thanks millions!


I have Qread, bought at the very beginning of its life, but I-m always interested in ebook realing programmes.


Ciao,

Ollie

On 18/03/2020 14:26, Robert Kingett wrote:

I wanted to share an open source Q Read alternative called Bookworm. It does not have bookshare support yet, nor does it support links, and headings, or tables, but still. It's a free option. The main website is below, where you can also read the manual.

I'm adding this to the accessible apps github page when I have a moment.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/


Re: Acapella

Jesse Farquharson
 

To be clear, I downloaded the engine v1.6.1. All voices are v1.6 as well.


Acapella

Jesse Farquharson
 

Hello folks.

So, after being hesitant to do so, I finally upgraded my NVDA version to 2019.3.1. I have been staying on 2019.2.1 for the last little while.

I just purchased a license for the Acapella TTS voices, (the full license) as I had used up my trial a few years back. I downloaded the engine, downloaded a lot of voices, then put my license key in and was registered.

However, after trying to switch my synth to Acapella... I'm lost. I hear no speech. I have a braille display hooked up to my computer but it also seems to freeze up. When I hit alt control N, NVDA restarts using Windows OneCore Voices. Can anyone offer some advice?

Thanks.


Re: One Core Synth

 

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 02:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote, to describe the Voice Dictionary:
Think of it as default dictionary but active only if the chosen voice from the chosen synthesizer is in use.
Thanks for the clarification.

That's precisely the reason I chose to use the Default Dictionary over the Voice Dictionary, as I suspect that this issue crosses multiple OneCore voices and presume that "un-" and "re-" prefixes on verbs will not be read with the hyphen pronounced when doing read-all for any synth.  I could be utterly wrong, and would love to have confirmation or refutation.

It's often a matter of what synths and voices you're using and whether a change to the Default Dictionary screws something up for one (or more) of the synths/voices you use regularly while fixing something only for one.  Trial and error . . .
 
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Re: One Core Synth

 

Hi,

Think of it as default dictionary but active only if the chosen voice from the chosen synthesizer is in use. I do talk about that in my own audio tutorial and have illustrated this with some examples in there.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] One Core Synth

 

Is the Voice Dictionary in actuality the Synth Dictionary?  The only reason I suggested the Default Dictionary is that I wanted to ensure the change would be honored no matter what voice happened to be in use (and because it's unlikely that the hyphenated form will be pronounced any differently than the unhyphenated in the vast majority of cases).

If Voice does equate to Synth then I need to make a mental note of that.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: One Core Synth

 

Is the Voice Dictionary in actuality the Synth Dictionary?  The only reason I suggested the Default Dictionary is that I wanted to ensure the change would be honored no matter what voice happened to be in use (and because it's unlikely that the hyphenated form will be pronounced any differently than the unhyphenated in the vast majority of cases).

If Voice does equate to Synth then I need to make a mental note of that.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: One Core Synth

 

Hi,
The short-term solution is adding these weird entries to voice-specific dictionary, not default dictionary (default speech dictionary affects all speech synthesizers). The long-term solution is reminding Microsoft to improve synthesis rules.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] One Core Synth

One core has other weird quirks. If you read something in 24-hour time notaion, that is after midnigt, it will read is 24:something instead of 0. So that 00:23 will speak 24:23.


Re: One Core Synth

David Csercsics
 

One core has other weird quirks. If you read something in 24-hour time notaion, that is after midnigt, it will read is 24:something instead of 0. So that 00:23 will speak 24:23.


Re: One Core Synth

 

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

unchartered                      

unchecking

unchecky

This is a fascinating quirk, and I'm getting it too with the Microsoft David voice.  The fix is simple, though, and that's adding an entry for each in the default dictionary, where the pattern is the whole word from the list above, the replacement is the same word but with a hyphen between the "un" and the remainder of it, and the type of match is limited to whole word.  They're all pronounced correctly then.

Heaven only knows why the synth is acting this strangely for those couple of "un" words.

 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna