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Re: NVDA addon development beginner

 

Not that your question is off-topic here, but you might get more focused responses and interest in your query on this group:

nvda-devel / NVDA Screen Reader Development
This includes questions and discussion about the code, user experience, design and documentation, both between regular developers and new or potential developers.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: irrelevant information

 

While Window-Eyes, like JAWS, or VoiceOver, or TalkBack, or other screen readers occasionally get passing mention here during discussions, generally as a "compare and contrast" for a wanted but missing feature, they are not allowed as primary topics.

It would be foolish to even try to enforce some strict decree that any other screen reader, whether currently supported or obsolete, absolutely cannot be mentioned.

This complaint seems to me to be a solution in search of a non-existent problem.  The readership of this group, and other blind technology groups, is acutely aware that Window-Eyes is not a currently supported product, but that there are also some who have it that continue to use it and that the odd, occasional question will arise.  Asking questions about how to use Window-Eyes in the NVDA Group is off-topic, but mentioning a feature it had that NVDA does not, for example, and asking whether said feature might be in the pipeline is perfectly allowable.
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NVDA addon development beginner

Ramesh Patil
 

Hi guys,

I am interested in study development of NVDA  addons.

I have basic knowledge of Java programming. I know for NVDA development I need knowledge of python programming

It is possible to learn python online?
I have read nvda addon development guide little bit. Anyone can send link for all essential softwares for download directly.

Another help, any one beginner/professional in python or nvda addon development is available in this group? So that i can contact him personally for my help.

Thanks in advance

Regards,
Ramesh


Re: Q Read alternative

 

For Braille readers, even though some of the paragraph breaks are weird, I'd suggest bookworm. And, best part? Any braille coder can code better support into the software because it's open source. The initial homepage is below. Yeah, Chris stopped updating is Q software ages ago. For now, this one is being maintained.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/


Re: Q Read alternative

john s
 

David, does  speak on handle NFB Newsline content?

Also, can the program use my screen reader?


At 09:56 AM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:
OK
My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open  drive.
 
The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.
 
The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow.
I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.
 
Speak On Resources
You can download Speak On media Suite from
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html
 
 
Speak On Media Podcast
 
01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3
This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available
by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu
 
02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3
 
This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into
Speak On Media.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt
 
03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3
This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume
of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.
 
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q
 
 
04 Reading eBooks on Speak On
This covers.
-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.
-changing the Reading Voice.
- Navigation levels available in the eBook.
- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.
-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.
- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.
- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.
- Saving Sections of the book as text files.
- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.
 
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2
 
 
05 Speak On and Internet Radio
This Podcast covers
- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.
- Using the optional VI Radio app.
- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.
 
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8
 
 
Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m
 
 
06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.
 
This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie
 
 
07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.
 
This Podcasts covers.
1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.
Installing the task and logging into the eText service.
Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.
Setting up favourite papers.
Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7
 
 
08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service
 
As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download
and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in
this use case.
 
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da
 
 
 
 
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
 
It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.
 
I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,
 
David Griffith
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Robert Kingett
Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html
 

                 John


Re: Speak numbers in crores and lacs instead of millions and billions

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


The add-on is from Roberto Buffolino...

Tiflotecnia only makes it available, specially for portuguese language community...


The direct link is:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/numberProcessing.nvda-addon


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 12:53 de 22/03/2020, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

Yes you’ve the Number Processing AddOn from Tiflotecnia, whose sight I don’t remember at the top of my ead.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 21 mar 2020, a la(s) 11:04 p.m., Ramesh Patil <ramesh.patil1989@...> escribió:



Hi guys,.

It is possible to speak the numbers by NVDA in crores and lacs instead of millions and billions

Thanks and regards,
Ramesh


Re: Q Read alternative

David Csercsics
 

Yes, I'd like a decent reader for braille, as well, because sometimes large books will either be completely unresponsive in things like adobe reader, or cause it to crash entirely. Epub is good too. I'll have to try that one from the Windows store possibly.


Re: Q Read alternative

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi David

I had never heard of Speak On Media before until you told us about it and on your recommendation I downloaded and installed it. It looks amazing.

I just have one issue with it and wonder if you have any information about this that can help: It does not seem to see any of my non-English SAPI voices. I would very much have liked it to read books in my language for which I have a SAPI installed which is recognised by everything else that works with SAPI. Do you have any idea how I could overcome this issue or what might be causing the limitation?

Kind regards

Christo


On 2020/03/22 03:40pm, David Griffith wrote:

It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

 

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 



Re: Q Read alternative

David Griffith
 

OK

My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open  drive.

 

The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.

 

The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow.

I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.

 

Speak On Resources

You can download Speak On media Suite from

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

 

Speak On Media Podcast

 

01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available

by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

 

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

 

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into

Speak On Media.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

 

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3

This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume

of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q

 

 

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On

This covers.

-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.

-changing the Reading Voice.

- Navigation levels available in the eBook.

- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.

-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.

- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.

- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.

- Saving Sections of the book as text files.

- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2

 

 

05 Speak On and Internet Radio

This Podcast covers

- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.

- Using the optional VI Radio app.

- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8

 

 

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

 

 

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

 

This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie

 

 

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

 

This Podcasts covers.

1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.

Installing the task and logging into the eText service.

Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.

Setting up favourite papers.

Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7

 

 

08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service

 

As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download

and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in

this use case.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da

 

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

 

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 


Re: Q Read alternative

David Griffith
 

It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

 

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 


Re: Q Read alternative

JM Casey
 

David.

It sounds like a neat programme, but I’m wondering how advantageous it would be for a braille display user who does not really use speech to read all that much. Any thoughtson that?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 21, 2020 9:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

                               

I know I am biased because I have done a podcast series on this fantastic app but for me the best accessible ePub Book    reader on a  PC , either paid, or free , remains by a  country mile remains the free Speak On Media Suite.

I am continually amazed it is never ever mentioned as an accessible option for reading ePub books.

 

Just to mention a few of its features.

 

Customisation of book reading voice including on the fly adjustment of reading volume and speed  of narration whilst reading a book through hotkeys. I know of no other book reader which does this.

Able to easily navigate through a book by chapter structure ,  headings, 50 lines, paragraph, sentence line word or character.

Ability to easily set markers in text of ePub books and copy and paste this text out of Speak On into a Word Processor.

Alternatively control a and control c will copy the chapter as text.

Ability to get single key press on book location and information.

Ability to resume reading from last position read on any book even if file location has changed.

Bookmark management  - ability to set and delete bookmarks.

It even has a virtual book creation function based on a search term which is incredibly  useful for study purposes.

Suppose you have a long academic book you need to search through to study a topic, you can in Speak On define a search term and Speak On will produce a smaller "virtual eBook” which will consists only of the chapters which contain the key phrase or terms in your defined search pattern. Again I know of no other accessible eBook reader which contains this feature.

David Griffith

 

 

Just to mention just a few of the features.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 March 2020 00:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

Another option is to install Thorium Reader from the Microsoft Store. It supports EPUB books. Bookshare can be set so that it provides downloads in EPUB format.

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Kingett <kingettr@...>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 09:26
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

I wanted to share an open source Q Read alternative called Bookworm. It does not have bookshare support yet, nor does it support links, and headings, or tables, but still. It's a free option. The main website is below, where you can also read the manual.

I'm adding this to the accessible apps github page when I have a moment.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/

 


Re: Speak numbers in crores and lacs instead of millions and billions

Gerardo Corripio
 

Yes you’ve the Number Processing AddOn from Tiflotecnia, whose sight I don’t remember at the top of my ead.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 21 mar 2020, a la(s) 11:04 p.m., Ramesh Patil <ramesh.patil1989@...> escribió:



Hi guys,.

It is possible to speak the numbers by NVDA in crores and lacs instead of millions and billions

Thanks and regards,
Ramesh


Re: irrelevant information

Ron Canazzi
 

Hello Wally,

With all due respect, many people still use Window-Eyes.  Some people with limited needs do not need any further advancements. Furthermore, this attitude of yours would also eliminate the discussion of such programs widely used by the blind because  of their accessibility such as Windows Live Mail and Udora mail.  These programs are also not being developed any more but they are quite serviceable for the needs of many people.

On 3/22/2020 6:04 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:
Hi gurus

This is Wally from SA.

I am often confused by people still referring others to what is no longer there.

When one asks for assistance, one expects you, gurus to assist in
terms of what we now have.

I would like to request the administrators of these lists to mute
those people who continuously mislead us.

We do not have Window Eyes any longer so, according to me assisting
someone using the mentality of ignoring change, does not help the
blind community.

Census, why is this topic allowed here? Is it about technology?

Let these lists be used in context.

I am not angry, but concerned.

We ask what is relevant in these mailing lists and we are
unfortunately not responded to due to unnecessary conversations that
take place on the lists.

Let us respect the lists for purposes of learning and self-enhancement.

The lists are meant for us to learn and effectively use technology and
not for anything else.

Thanking you in advance for your understanding.

Wally Marisane: SA


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irrelevant information

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Hi gurus

This is Wally from SA.

I am often confused by people still referring others to what is no longer there.

When one asks for assistance, one expects you, gurus to assist in
terms of what we now have.

I would like to request the administrators of these lists to mute
those people who continuously mislead us.

We do not have Window Eyes any longer so, according to me assisting
someone using the mentality of ignoring change, does not help the
blind community.

Census, why is this topic allowed here? Is it about technology?

Let these lists be used in context.

I am not angry, but concerned.

We ask what is relevant in these mailing lists and we are
unfortunately not responded to due to unnecessary conversations that
take place on the lists.

Let us respect the lists for purposes of learning and self-enhancement.

The lists are meant for us to learn and effectively use technology and
not for anything else.

Thanking you in advance for your understanding.

Wally Marisane: SA


Re: nvda and accessing svg element on web

William Wong
 

Yes, thanks.


Cohn, Jonathan 於 20/3/2020 22:59 寫道:

There have been entire talks at CSUN and other accessibility related conferences on making SVG accessible. I understand that some SVG have events that occur when focus is set on them, and it appears that yours might. My believe is that by default SVG images are focusable, but in any case their focusability can be adjusted with the tab index attribute. So you want to add tabindex="0" to the SVG element or perhaps its parent. Generally, images are not interactive and therefore should not be in the tab order. Also remember that all you do by adding a role of img and aria label is to tell NVDA the name of the element and that it is a graphic. It does not effect its operation, for that you need JavaScript.
  . 


Re: Value of headers not readable in Thunderbird

john doe
 

On 3/22/2020 3:47 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


The following add on  might help at
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html

If i remember right it could also be done under the view menu then sort
by. to what you wanted to hear.


The add on also is meant to make it easier to move columns that are read
out in the header the old way was using the mouse to do it.


Hopefully it does the job for you.
Actually, along with the field 'date' I would also like to have
'User-Agent' field,.

Using the tab key to go through all the headers the value of the field
'User-Agent' is empty.
Where the value of the field is 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 in your case.'

--
John Doe


Speak numbers in crores and lacs instead of millions and billions

Ramesh Patil
 

Hi guys,.

It is possible to speak the numbers by NVDA in crores and lacs instead of millions and billions

Thanks and regards,
Ramesh


Re: Value of headers not readable in Thunderbird

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The following add on  might help at https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html

If i remember right it could also be done under the view menu then sort by. to what you wanted to hear.


The add on also is meant to make it easier to move columns that are read out in the header the old way was using the mouse to do it.


Hopefully it does the job for you.


Gene nz

On 21/03/2020 8:26 pm, john doe wrote:
Hi NVDAs,

With the latest 'next' release of NVDA and the latest release of
Thunderbird, it is not possible anymore to read the value of the header
fields of an e-mail.
For example, when using the tab key to go through the available headers,
NVDA does not speak anything for the value of the date header.

It looks like a regression because it has stopped working a while back
but can not recall when! :)

The same thing is also present with the stable release.

Am I missing something?


Any input is appriciated.

--
John Doe


Re: Q Read alternative

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


It does all it mentions and is very easy to use.


he also done the speech hub program where you could install other packages of synths like all in the one place like a hub. But the add on needs to be updated so it works with the newer nvda 2019.3


The developers name is Isaac Porat He also done a calculator program which I think is hosted off the same website.


Have not seen him on list That would be the latest version as it done all he wanted.


he does have a email list that you could contact h him on.


Gene nz



it to doRobert Kingett wrote:

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


Re: Q Read alternative

Jackie
 

I really do wish there were an alternative to QRead. I bought it at
version 3.11. The 3.21 version is now messed up so badly that it's
basically unusable, ie, the speech will not start from the last
position anymore. So I downgraded & every 2 hours I get nagged about
whether I want to update, which, obviously, h e hockeystick x 2 no, I
don't. I have tried to contact the authors about the problem w/o
success, so definitively QRead is not a program I can recommend
anymore. Would it were otherwise, because it used to be really good &
filled a large gap in terms of reading solutions, & I did indeed
recommend it highly back in the 3.11 era, as I considered $30 a really
reasonable price tag for what the program does. I just tried
contacting the developers again--guess we'll see how that goes. The
msg did go through this time so that may (or may not) be a promising
development. Perhaps the shadow still knows as regards that. The truth
is they probly weren't making enough money to make it worth their
while, & I can understand that, & I understand as well they've been
putting effort into NVDA Remote, but gosh, when an update seriously
breaks something in a program, it would be nice if that situation
could at least be remedied.

On 3/21/20, Robert Kingett <@blindjourno> wrote:
The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last
update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a
media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link,
put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html



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