Re: Q Read alternative
john s
David, the NFB content is Daisy, which xml files.
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Can my screen reader be used in this program?
At 12:10 PM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
Hi, I recommend starting at python.org’s python documentation (look up 3.7, not 3.8 yet). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Thanks brian and Josep, Josep sir what is best website source to learn python 3. Thanks
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 10:31 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
Ramesh Patil
Thanks brian and Josep, Josep sir what is best website source to learn python 3. Thanks
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 10:31 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
Hi, Brian gave you the subscription info for at least one development list. My advice is: Before you learn NVDA add-on development, learn Python 3 first. You need to have a solid grasp of at least intermediate Python features before you can say you are ready to write NVDA add-ons. Concepts you need to learn include classes, modules, functions, imports, and class attribute access/modification. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Hi guys, I am interested in study development of NVDA addons. I have basic knowledge of Java programming. I know for NVDA development I need knowledge of python programming It is possible to learn python online? Another help, any one beginner/professional in python or nvda addon development is available in this group? So that i can contact him personally for my help. Thanks in advance Regards,
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
Hi, ‘Actually, a better list for add-ons discussion is: https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons Regarding XP support, I’ll make a community announcement as early as a few hours from now (there are folks on Twitter who are also concerned about it). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
zahra,
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Q Read alternative
Gerardo Corripio
TuneIn? Wow you guys got me hooked! I’ll definitely listen to the podcasts shared earlier, and try it out! thanks for the recommendation!
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El 22 mar 2020, a la(s) 10:10 a.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
zahra,
I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my last message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group Email Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc., addresses. Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and take a look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please note this is not a general user support list." I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account, which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct communication with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create additional tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub. By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally moved on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any currently supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain unavailable to you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows 10. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Q Read alternative
David Griffith
Speak On was developed in the UK so the only direct connections it has to download is content from the RNIB eText and Audio Newsagent service and it also connects directly to TuneIn Radio if you have an account with them. However it does have a “Virtual Reader” function which interacts with the automatic eText digital content generated by for Newspapers and Magazines in the UK which makes for a more pleasant reading experience. If Newsline produces material in ePub2 format then it may be worth importing the content into Speak On and try reading it with the RNIB eText Newsagent app anyway to see if this provides a good experience. If you wanted to do this you would need to first of all add the RNIB eText app from the add plugins section of the Tools menu and then place your Newsline content, assuming it is epPub2 into the Current Reading directory under the RNIB etect directory under My Speak On media folder.
Of course you can also read the ePub also using Speak On’s eBook function – one of the worst decisions Isaac took was to name this app Text Publications which disguises it utility as an eBook reader.
David Griffith
So it cannot, as far as I am aware connect Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 14:59 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
David, does speak on handle NFB Newsline content?
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
hi brian.
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how can i subscribe to nvda developers to contact them directly and ask my questions or say my suggestions and needed features?
On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Not that your question is off-topic here, but you might get more focused --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
Not that your question is off-topic here, but you might get more focused responses and interest in your query on this group:
nvda-devel / NVDA Screen Reader DevelopmentThis includes questions and discussion about the code, user experience, design and documentation, both between regular developers and new or potential developers.-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: irrelevant information
While Window-Eyes, like JAWS, or VoiceOver, or TalkBack, or other screen readers occasionally get passing mention here during discussions, generally as a "compare and contrast" for a wanted but missing feature, they are not allowed as primary topics.
It would be foolish to even try to enforce some strict decree that any other screen reader, whether currently supported or obsolete, absolutely cannot be mentioned. This complaint seems to me to be a solution in search of a non-existent problem. The readership of this group, and other blind technology groups, is acutely aware that Window-Eyes is not a currently supported product, but that there are also some who have it that continue to use it and that the odd, occasional question will arise. Asking questions about how to use Window-Eyes in the NVDA Group is off-topic, but mentioning a feature it had that NVDA does not, for example, and asking whether said feature might be in the pipeline is perfectly allowable. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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NVDA addon development beginner
Ramesh Patil
Hi guys, I am interested in study development of NVDA addons. I have basic knowledge of Java programming. I know for NVDA development I need knowledge of python programming It is possible to learn python online? Another help, any one beginner/professional in python or nvda addon development is available in this group? So that i can contact him personally for my help. Thanks in advance Regards,
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Re: Q Read alternative
For Braille readers, even though some of the paragraph breaks are weird, I'd suggest bookworm. And, best part? Any braille coder can code better support into the software because it's open source. The initial homepage is below. Yeah, Chris stopped updating is Q software ages ago. For now, this one is being maintained.
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Re: Q Read alternative
john s
David, does speak on handle NFB Newsline content?
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Also, can the program use my screen reader?
At 09:56 AM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote: OK
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Re: Speak numbers in crores and lacs instead of millions and billions
Rui Fontes
Hello!
The add-on is from Roberto Buffolino... Tiflotecnia only makes it available, specially for portuguese language community...
The direct link is: https://www.tiflotecnia.net/numberProcessing.nvda-addon
Best regards,
Rui Fontes NVDA portuguese team Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 12:53 de 22/03/2020, Gerardo
Corripio escreveu:
Yes you’ve the Number Processing AddOn from Tiflotecnia, whose sight I don’t remember at the top of my ead.
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Re: Q Read alternative
David Csercsics
Yes, I'd like a decent reader for braille, as well, because sometimes large books will either be completely unresponsive in things like adobe reader, or cause it to crash entirely. Epub is good too. I'll have to try that one from the Windows store possibly.
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Re: Q Read alternative
Christo de Klerk
Hi David
I had never heard of Speak On Media
before until you told us about it and on your recommendation I
downloaded and installed it. It looks amazing.
I just have one issue with it and
wonder if you have any information about this that can help: It
does not seem to see any of my non-English SAPI voices. I would
very much have liked it to read books in my language for which I
have a SAPI installed which is recognised by everything else that
works with SAPI. Do you have any idea how I could overcome this
issue or what might be causing the limitation?
Kind regards
Christo
On 2020/03/22 03:40pm, David Griffith
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Re: Q Read alternative
David Griffith
OK My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open drive.
The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.
The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow. I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.
Speak On Resources You can download Speak On media Suite from http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html
Speak On Media Podcast
01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3 This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu
02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3
This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into Speak On Media. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt
03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3 This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q
04 Reading eBooks on Speak On This covers. -Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu. -changing the Reading Voice. - Navigation levels available in the eBook. - Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information. -Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view. - Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly. - Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad. - Saving Sections of the book as text files. - Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2
05 Speak On and Internet Radio This Podcast covers - Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On. - Using the optional VI Radio app. - Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8
Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m
06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.
This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie
07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.
This Podcasts covers. 1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading. Installing the task and logging into the eText service. Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback. Setting up favourite papers. Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files. https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7
08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service
As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in this use case.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
It is not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.
I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,
David Griffith
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From: Robert Kingett
The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread. http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html
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Re: Q Read alternative
David Griffith
It is not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.
I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Robert Kingett
Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread. http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html
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Re: Q Read alternative
JM Casey
David. It sounds like a neat programme, but I’m wondering how advantageous it would be for a braille display user who does not really use speech to read all that much. Any thoughtson that?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 21, 2020 9:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
I know I am biased because I have done a podcast series on this fantastic app but for me the best accessible ePub Book reader on a PC , either paid, or free , remains by a country mile remains the free Speak On Media Suite. I am continually amazed it is never ever mentioned as an accessible option for reading ePub books.
Just to mention a few of its features.
Customisation of book reading voice including on the fly adjustment of reading volume and speed of narration whilst reading a book through hotkeys. I know of no other book reader which does this. Able to easily navigate through a book by chapter structure , headings, 50 lines, paragraph, sentence line word or character. Ability to easily set markers in text of ePub books and copy and paste this text out of Speak On into a Word Processor. Alternatively control a and control c will copy the chapter as text. Ability to get single key press on book location and information. Ability to resume reading from last position read on any book even if file location has changed. Bookmark management - ability to set and delete bookmarks. It even has a virtual book creation function based on a search term which is incredibly useful for study purposes. Suppose you have a long academic book you need to search through to study a topic, you can in Speak On define a search term and Speak On will produce a smaller "virtual eBook” which will consists only of the chapters which contain the key phrase or terms in your defined search pattern. Again I know of no other accessible eBook reader which contains this feature. David Griffith
Just to mention just a few of the features.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Jason White via Groups.Io
Another option is to install Thorium Reader from the Microsoft Store. It supports EPUB books. Bookshare can be set so that it provides downloads in EPUB format.
From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Kingett <kingettr@...>
I wanted to share an open source Q Read alternative called Bookworm. It does not have bookshare support yet, nor does it support links, and headings, or tables, but still. It's a free option. The main website is below, where you can also read the manual. I'm adding this to the accessible apps github page when I have a moment. https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/
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