Date   

Re: Podcast Reader

Gerardo Corripio
 

Especially for those on Windows10, what voice does the program use? Core1? Because the English Sapi5 on Windows10 sounds terrible!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: David Griffith
Enviado: domingo, 22 de marzo de 2020 04:35 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Podcast Reader

 

I am a little embarrassed to say this after extolling its ability as an eBook reader but Speak On is also a very good Podcast reader as far as I am concerned. It has 4 main Podcast functions.

1. Stream or download any Podcast  / downloadable radio show available from TuneIn Radio.

2. The main Podcast App also has  library of categorised Podcasts to search through.

3. there is a specialist  separate Podcast app which can be downloaded via the tools and plugins menu which covers exclusively Podcasts concentrating on VI Issues.

4. You can also of course import normal OPML files to import or export your lists of Podcasts as in any other Podcast reader.

 

 

Of course all the functionality of navigation and playback available to Audio Books is available through the Podcasts app including bookmarking, speeding up narration etc.

 

The main difference compared to other Podcast Readers is that you navigate through all the Podcast episodes via the player window rather than the media library.

So if you load the In Touch Podcast pressing the down arrow with the media granularity set will jump you through the episodes  available in a Podcast feed.

 

I have not as yet done a Podcast demonstrating  Speak On and Podcasts but this will be done over the next few weeks during the lock down.

David Griffith

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry

Sent: 22 March 2020 21:30

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] PodCast Reader

 

Is there a program works well with NVDA 20193.1 and Windows 10?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Podcast Reader

David Griffith
 

I am a little embarrassed to say this after extolling its ability as an eBook reader but Speak On is also a very good Podcast reader as far as I am concerned. It has 4 main Podcast functions.
1. Stream or download any Podcast / downloadable radio show available from TuneIn Radio.
2. The main Podcast App also has library of categorised Podcasts to search through.
3. there is a specialist separate Podcast app which can be downloaded via the tools and plugins menu which covers exclusively Podcasts concentrating on VI Issues.
4. You can also of course import normal OPML files to import or export your lists of Podcasts as in any other Podcast reader.


Of course all the functionality of navigation and playback available to Audio Books is available through the Podcasts app including bookmarking, speeding up narration etc.

The main difference compared to other Podcast Readers is that you navigate through all the Podcast episodes via the player window rather than the media library.
So if you load the In Touch Podcast pressing the down arrow with the media granularity set will jump you through the episodes available in a Podcast feed.

I have not as yet done a Podcast demonstrating Speak On and Podcasts but this will be done over the next few weeks during the lock down.
David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: 22 March 2020 21:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PodCast Reader

Is there a program works well with NVDA 20193.1 and Windows 10?


locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hi,

As a follow-up: I know that some of you will try to ask other developers offlist about Windows XP support after learning that I will say no. I would like to seriously ask that you DO NOT DO THAT ANYMORE!

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 3:02 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,

 

First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while. Even if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.

 

Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

 

At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people  asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:

 

Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, “sorry, no more, period.” These include:

 

  • Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and Server 2008
  • Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
  • Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA 2017.3
  • Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users

 

Most importantly, I will flatly say “no” if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I’m either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA 2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.

 

My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I’m not speaking on behalf of other developers – others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

 

I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say “no” to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn’t announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end – once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.

 

Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph


locked Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,

 

First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while. Even if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.

 

Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

 

At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people  asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:

 

Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, “sorry, no more, period.” These include:

 

  • Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and Server 2008
  • Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
  • Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA 2017.3
  • Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users

 

Most importantly, I will flatly say “no” if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I’m either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA 2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.

 

My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I’m not speaking on behalf of other developers – others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

 

I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say “no” to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn’t announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end – once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.

 

Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Possible bug found

Roger Stewart
 

If you just press the numpad insert key, there has never been a beep. This was an alert that you have pressed either extended insert or caps lock key if they have been set to also be the nvda key.
Roger








On 3/22/2020 3:57 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Roger,

            Just as a data point, I have never heard an auditory cue from a press of the NVDA key when I've been using NVDA.  I am guessing this is a setting somewhere, but not one I've ever used.  The one auditory cue I do notice is the change from browse to focus mode, or vice versa.

             And I just experimented with NVDA while entering this message via the web interface.  Hitting the Insert key (not 6-pack, in this case) does not produce any tone.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 



Major Bug With Acapella TTS 1.6

Jesse Farquharson
 

Hello folks. I'm not sure if anyone from Acapella TTS is in this list. I would assume not, but I thought I'd put this here anyway and see what comes of it, as well as e-mailing the devs of the synth.

So far... my experience with this version has not been very smooth. It's painfully slow to load, and seems to stop reading text at random when using the say all key command.

Now, there is, so far, one instance I have seen where Acapella TTS will absolutely refuse to read, no matter what, say all mode or no.

If I were to randomly insert =/\= in this line, Acapella TTS would absolutely refuse to read past it. It will not crash, it just won't read anything on the line with =/\= in it, in say all mode or otherwise.


Re: Possible bug found

Roger Stewart
 

Oh, I thought the beeps were generated by NVDA itself.
Roger







On 3/22/2020 4:24 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Roger

It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on.  This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed.  It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.

    

Cheers

Chris 

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert

key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda

modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something

as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I

press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key

correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda

modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both

keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key

but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If

there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then

this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I

have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.

 

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 



Re: Q Read alternative

David Griffith
 

As far as I am aware he has already done this but the addon needs posting.

I’ll check back to see what he said in his last email to me, however from memory it is either about to be posted or is imminent.

 

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

Hi

 

Do you know if he is going to update the speech hub add on? so it works with nvda 2019.3

 

When I tried it  the last version was nvda 2019.2.1 I think it was I would have to check.

 

Gene nz

 

On 23/03/2020 8:01 am, David Griffith wrote:

Speak On supports Daisy through its Audio Books app but I don’t know about XML 5 but if somebody sent me a sample I could try it and see.

Speak On is self-voicing  much like Kurzweil so you would not use a Screenreader with it as it is controlled  just as if you were using a screenreader.

 

Isaac told me that he has updated the NVDA and Speech Player addons to be compatible with the latest version of NVDA but I don’t think they have been published yet.

As I understand it  the NVDA addon simply mutes NVDA whilst Speak On is in Focus

 

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

David, the NFB content is Daisy, which xml files.

Can my screen reader be used in this program?

At 12:10 PM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:

 
Speak On was developed in the UK so the only direct connections it has to download is content from the RNIB eText and Audio Newsagent service and it also connects directly to TuneIn Radio if you have an  account with them.
However it does have a “Virtual Reader†function which interacts with the automatic eText digital content  generated by for Newspapers and Magazines in the UK which makes for a more pleasant reading experience.
If Newsline produces material in ePub2 format then it may be worth importing the content into Speak On and try reading it with the RNIB eText Newsagent app anyway to see if this provides a good experience.
If you wanted to do this you would need to first of all add the RNIB eText app from the add plugins section of the Tools menu and then place your Newsline content, assuming it is epPub2  into  the Current Reading directory under the RNIB etect directory under My Speak On media folder.
 
Of course you can also read the ePub also using Speak On’s eBook function – oone of the worst decisions Isaac took was to name this app Text Publications which disguises it utility as an eBook reader.
 
David Griffith
 
So it cannot, as far as I am aware connect
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 14:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
 
David, does  speak on handle NFB Newsline content?

Also, can the program use my screen reader?

At 09:56 AM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:

OK

My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open  drive.

 

The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.

 

The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow.

I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.

 

Speak On Resources

You can download Speak On media Suite from

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

 

Speak On Media Podcast

 

01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available

by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

 

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

 

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into

Speak On Media.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

 

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3

This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume

of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q

 

 

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On

This covers.

-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.

-changing the Reading Voice.

- Navigation levels available in the eBook.

- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.

-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.

- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.

- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.

- Saving Sections of the book as text files.

- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2

 

 

05 Speak On and Internet Radio

This Podcast covers

- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.

- Using the optional VI Radio app.

- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8

 

 

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

 

 

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

 

This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie

 

 

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

 

This Podcasts covers.

1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.

Installing the task and logging into the eText service.

Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.

Setting up favourite papers.

Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7

 

 

08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service

 

As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download

and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in

this use case.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da

 

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io

Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

 

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Kingett

Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

                 John

 

                 John

 


PodCast Reader

Andrea Sherry
 

Is there a program works well with NVDA 20193.1 and Windows 10?


Re: Possible bug found

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Roger

It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on.  This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed.  It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.

    

Cheers

Chris 

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert

key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda

modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something

as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I

press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key

correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda

modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both

keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key

but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If

there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then

this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I

have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.

 

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Possible bug found

Sascha Cowley
 

There is a windows setting to beep on caps lock. I think OP might have enabled this.

On 23/03/2020 07:57, Brian Vogel wrote:
Roger,

            Just as a data point, I have never heard an auditory cue from a press of the NVDA key when I've been using NVDA.  I am guessing this is a setting somewhere, but not one I've ever used.  The one auditory cue I do notice is the change from browse to focus mode, or vice versa.

             And I just experimented with NVDA while entering this message via the web interface.  Hitting the Insert key (not 6-pack, in this case) does not produce any tone.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Possible bug found

 

Roger,

            Just as a data point, I have never heard an auditory cue from a press of the NVDA key when I've been using NVDA.  I am guessing this is a setting somewhere, but not one I've ever used.  The one auditory cue I do notice is the change from browse to focus mode, or vice versa.

             And I just experimented with NVDA while entering this message via the web interface.  Hitting the Insert key (not 6-pack, in this case) does not produce any tone.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Possible bug found

Roger Stewart
 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.


Roger


Re: irrelevant information

 

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 06:04 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:
We ask what is relevant in these mailing lists and we are
unfortunately not responded to due to unnecessary conversations that
take place on the lists.
This deserves a separate response of its own.   On any group, and particularly those that are high traffic groups, there will always be tons of topics that do not hold even the slightest interest to a given reader even if they are entirely on-topic for the list.  This is precisely the reason I wrote the tutorial (take your pick of download format):

Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx)

Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io  (PDF)

Anyone who wishes to remain engaged in a group, but also wants to limit their traffic, should follow the steps I describe for setting up topic preview.  That way, unless you follow a topic based upon the first message, you will not receive any additional messages from that topic.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Q Read alternative

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Do you know if he is going to update the speech hub add on? so it works with nvda 2019.3


When I tried it  the last version was nvda 2019.2.1 I think it was I would have to check.


Gene nz


On 23/03/2020 8:01 am, David Griffith wrote:

Speak On supports Daisy through its Audio Books app but I don’t know about XML 5 but if somebody sent me a sample I could try it and see.

Speak On is self-voicing  much like Kurzweil so you would not use a Screenreader with it as it is controlled  just as if you were using a screenreader.

 

Isaac told me that he has updated the NVDA and Speech Player addons to be compatible with the latest version of NVDA but I don’t think they have been published yet.

As I understand it  the NVDA addon simply mutes NVDA whilst Speak On is in Focus

 

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

David, the NFB content is Daisy, which xml files.

Can my screen reader be used in this program?

At 12:10 PM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:

 
Speak On was developed in the UK so the only direct connections it has to download is content from the RNIB eText and Audio Newsagent service and it also connects directly to TuneIn Radio if you have an  account with them.
However it does have a “Virtual Readerâ€
function which interacts with the automatic eText digital content  generated by for Newspapers and Magazines in the UK which makes for a more pleasant reading experience.
If Newsline produces material in ePub2 format then it may be worth importing the content into Speak On and try reading it with the RNIB eText Newsagent app anyway to see if this provides a good experience.
If you wanted to do this you would need to first of all add the RNIB eText app from the add plugins section of the Tools menu and then place your Newsline content, assuming it is epPub2  into  the Current Reading directory under the RNIB etect directory under My Speak On media folder.
 
Of course you can also read the ePub also using Speak On’s eBook function – oone of the worst decisions Isaac took was to name this app Text Publications which disguises it utility as an eBook reader.
 
David Griffith
 
So it cannot, as far as I am aware connect
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 14:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
 
David, does  speak on handle NFB Newsline content?

Also, can the program use my screen reader?

At 09:56 AM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:

OK

My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open  drive.

 

The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.

 

The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow.

I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.

 

Speak On Resources

You can download Speak On media Suite from

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

 

Speak On Media Podcast

 

01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available

by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

 

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

 

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into

Speak On Media.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

 

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3

This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume

of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q

 

 

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On

This covers.

-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.

-changing the Reading Voice.

- Navigation levels available in the eBook.

- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.

-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.

- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.

- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.

- Saving Sections of the book as text files.

- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2

 

 

05 Speak On and Internet Radio

This Podcast covers

- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.

- Using the optional VI Radio app.

- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8

 

 

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

 

 

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

 

This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie

 

 

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

 

This Podcasts covers.

1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.

Installing the task and logging into the eText service.

Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.

Setting up favourite papers.

Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7

 

 

08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service

 

As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download

and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in

this use case.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da

 

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io

Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

 

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Kingett

Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

                 John

 

                 John


Re: One Core Synth

 

Chris,

            This is similar to a method I used, and I can't recall whether it was under JAWS or NVDA, when the word cup was being read as Cuban Pesos if the document was a recipe where the format, "X cup," or "Y cups," is commonly used.  Making the replacement string have a capital C eliminated it being spoken as Cuban Pesos.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: NVDA addon development beginner

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


There was a list of books and websites that come across the list a while back so saved them just in case.


They are a list from people on this list who found the resources handy for learning python.


they might go from easy to hard? in learning it.


It does not have in the list what program you use which I guess would help or which ones the blind programmers find works well with nvda.

But that could be added.


I can put the list on my website maybe off the useful resources page so is easier to find if others want to learn python etc


The list is below.


Learning Python books and courses

 

 

 

 

 

Learn python the hard way https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

 

A python hands on tutorial http://anh.cs.luc.edu/python/hands-on/3.1/handsonHtml/index.html

 

Python for Everybody: Exploring Data Using Python 3 https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/textbooks/336

 

 

And some online courses,

 

These are free, but if you want a certificate of completion, you can pay for it if you pass the course.

 

 

Introduction to Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-for-data-science

 

Python for data science https://www.edx.org/course/python-for-data-science-1

 

Introduction to Python: Absolute Beginner https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-absolute-beginner-2

 

Introduction to Python: Fundamentals https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-fundamentals-2

 

Principles of Machine Learning: Python Edition https://www.edx.org/course/principles-of-machine-learning-python-edition

 

Computing in Python I: Fundamentals and Procedural Programming https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-i-fundamentals-and-procedural-programming-2

 

Computing in Python II: Control Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-ii-control-structures-2

 

Computing in Python III: Data Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iii-data-structures-2

 

Computing in Python IV: Objects & Algorithms https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iv-objects-algorithms-2

 

Visualizing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-visualization-with-python

 

Advanced Algorithmics and Graph Theory with Python https://www.edx.org/course/advanced-algorithmics-and-graph-theory-with-python

 

Analyzing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-analysis-with-python

 

Deep Learning with Python and PyTorch https://www.edx.org/course/deep-learning-with-python-and-pytorch

 

Python Basics for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/python-basics-for-data-science

 

Machine Learning with Python: A Practical Introduction https://www.edx.org/course/machine-learning-with-python-for-edx

 

Using Python for Research https://www.edx.org/course/using-python-for-research

 

Introduction to Python: Creating Scalable, Robust, Interactive Code https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-creating-scalable-robust-interactive-code

 

Programming with Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/programming-with-python-for-data-science

 

Introduction to Programming Using Python https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-programming-using-python

 

CS For All: Introduction to Computer Science and Python Programming https://www.edx.org/course/cs-all-introduction-computer-science-harveymuddx-cs005x-0

 

 

These are all pay courses, but if you are careful, you can buy bundles that have multiple courses in them.

 

 

Stone river elearning has 32 python courses at: https://stoneriverelearning.com/courses/category/Python

 

 

skillwise has several python courses, some of which are listed below.

 

Python Programming Bootcamp 2.0 https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-programming-bootcamp-2-2

 

Python 3 Bootcamp Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-bootcamp-2017-python-3

 

Machine Learning with Python Course and E-Book Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-machine-learning-online-course-and-book-bundle

 

Deep Learning: Convolutional Neural Networks in Python https://www.skillwise.com/sales/deep-learning-convolutional-neural-networks-in-python

 

The Python Power Coder BONUS Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-power-coder-bonus-bundle

 

Become a Professional Python Programmer https://www.skillwise.com/sales/become-a-professional-python-programmer

 

Python Tutorial: Python 100% Hands-On - Learn by Coding https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-tutorial-python-100-hands-on-learn-by-coding

 

Pay What You Want: The Python Master Class Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/pwyw-the-python-master-class-bundle

 

 

And, finally, educba.com also has python courses such as:

 

Become a Python Developer

 

Artificial Intelligence with python

python 3.5 Training

The Ultimate python Programming - Novice to Ninja

Practical Projects of python Programming

python:01 - python Fundamentals

Data Science with python

python for Beginners

Machine Learning using python

 

Now, I know the educba classes are expensive if bought separately, but if you hang out on stacksocial.com or even skillwise.com ( at times) you can purchase whole groups of training all at once.  I got a deal for all of stone river Elearning for $59, then for $99 I got the whole collection of educba classes.  (the next day, I saw it for $49) *grumble*), so if you're patient, and if you really want to learn, there's no reason why you can't learn anything you like.  This is just talking about python classes and books, but this works for just about any topic.

 

stackskills.com also has several python courses, and I got access to 1100 plus courses (all it/technology related for $19 again, from stacksocial.com

 

 

 

https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

 

 

Here's A Byte of Python.

 

 

https://python.swaroopch.com/

 

 

Here's Think Python.

 

 

http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html

 

 

Here's one on programming games.

 

 

http://inventwithpython.com/

 

 

Finally, here's a link somebody posted a while back to stuff Joseph

wrote up.

 

 

 

On 23/03/2020 8:34 am, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
There is a good free book available on git hub. It is called dive into python 3. It is completely free. Just do a search for the title of the book and it should be easy to find.

Greg Wocher


On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
I recommend starting at python.org’s python documentation (look up 3.7, not 3.8 yet).
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:13 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner
 

Thanks brian and Josep,

Josep sir what is best website source to learn python 3.

Thanks

 
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 10:31 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Brian gave you the subscription info for at least one development list. My advice is:
Before you learn NVDA add-on development, learn Python 3 first. You need to have a solid grasp of at least intermediate Python features before you can say you are ready to write NVDA add-ons. Concepts you need to learn include classes, modules, functions, imports, and class attribute access/modification.
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 8:30 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner
 

Hi guys,

I am interested in study development of NVDA  addons.

I have basic knowledge of Java programming. I know for NVDA development I need knowledge of python programming

It is possible to learn python online? 
I have read nvda addon development guide little bit. Anyone can send link for all essential softwares for download directly. 

Another help, any one beginner/professional in python or nvda addon development is available in this group? So that i can contact him personally for my help. 

Thanks in advance

Regards,
Ramesh



Re: NVDA addon development beginner

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
There is a good free book available on git hub. It is called dive into python 3. It is completely free. Just do a search for the title of the book and it should be easy to find.

Greg Wocher


On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
I recommend starting at python.org’s python documentation (look up 3.7, not 3.8 yet).
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:13 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner
 

Thanks brian and Josep,

Josep sir what is best website source to learn python 3.

Thanks

 
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 10:31 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Brian gave you the subscription info for at least one development list. My advice is:
Before you learn NVDA add-on development, learn Python 3 first. You need to have a solid grasp of at least intermediate Python features before you can say you are ready to write NVDA add-ons. Concepts you need to learn include classes, modules, functions, imports, and class attribute access/modification.
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 8:30 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner
 

Hi guys,

I am interested in study development of NVDA  addons.

I have basic knowledge of Java programming. I know for NVDA development I need knowledge of python programming

It is possible to learn python online? 
I have read nvda addon development guide little bit. Anyone can send link for all essential softwares for download directly. 

Another help, any one beginner/professional in python or nvda addon development is available in this group? So that i can contact him personally for my help. 

Thanks in advance

Regards,
Ramesh



Re: One Core Synth

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I’ve fiddled around with this for a while and the following regular expression seems to work nicely:

 

Pattern: \bunch

Replacement: unCh

 

Note the “C” in the replacement is capitalised.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 21 March 2020 18:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] One Core Synth

 

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 02:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote, to describe the Voice Dictionary:

Think of it as default dictionary but active only if the chosen voice from the chosen synthesizer is in use.

Thanks for the clarification.

That's precisely the reason I chose to use the Default Dictionary over the Voice Dictionary, as I suspect that this issue crosses multiple OneCore voices and presume that "un-" and "re-" prefixes on verbs will not be read with the hyphen pronounced when doing read-all for any synth.  I could be utterly wrong, and would love to have confirmation or refutation.

It's often a matter of what synths and voices you're using and whether a change to the Default Dictionary screws something up for one (or more) of the synths/voices you use regularly while fixing something only for one.  Trial and error . . .
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

 


Re: Q Read alternative

David Griffith
 

Speak On supports Daisy through its Audio Books app but I don’t know about XML 5 but if somebody sent me a sample I could try it and see.

Speak On is self-voicing  much like Kurzweil so you would not use a Screenreader with it as it is controlled  just as if you were using a screenreader.

 

Isaac told me that he has updated the NVDA and Speech Player addons to be compatible with the latest version of NVDA but I don’t think they have been published yet.

As I understand it  the NVDA addon simply mutes NVDA whilst Speak On is in Focus

 

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 18:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

David, the NFB content is Daisy, which xml files.

Can my screen reader be used in this program?

At 12:10 PM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:

 
Speak On was developed in the UK so the only direct connections it has to download is content from the RNIB eText and Audio Newsagent service and it also connects directly to TuneIn Radio if you have an  account with them.
However it does have a “Virtual Readerâ€
function which interacts with the automatic eText digital content  generated by for Newspapers and Magazines in the UK which makes for a more pleasant reading experience.
If Newsline produces material in ePub2 format then it may be worth importing the content into Speak On and try reading it with the RNIB eText Newsagent app anyway to see if this provides a good experience.
If you wanted to do this you would need to first of all add the RNIB eText app from the add plugins section of the Tools menu and then place your Newsline content, assuming it is epPub2  into  the Current Reading directory under the RNIB etect directory under My Speak On media folder.
 
Of course you can also read the ePub also using Speak On’s eBook function – oone of the worst decisions Isaac took was to name this app Text Publications which disguises it utility as an eBook reader.
 
David Griffith
 
So it cannot, as far as I am aware connect
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 14:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
 
David, does  speak on handle NFB Newsline content?

Also, can the program use my screen reader?

At 09:56 AM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:

OK

My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open  drive.

 

The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.

 

The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow.

I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.

 

Speak On Resources

You can download Speak On media Suite from

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

 

Speak On Media Podcast

 

01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available

by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

 

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

 

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into

Speak On Media.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

 

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3

This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume

of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q

 

 

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On

This covers.

-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.

-changing the Reading Voice.

- Navigation levels available in the eBook.

- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.

-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.

- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.

- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.

- Saving Sections of the book as text files.

- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2

 

 

05 Speak On and Internet Radio

This Podcast covers

- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.

- Using the optional VI Radio app.

- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8

 

 

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

 

 

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

 

This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie

 

 

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

 

This Podcasts covers.

1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.

Installing the task and logging into the eText service.

Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.

Setting up favourite papers.

Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7

 

 

08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service

 

As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download

and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in

this use case.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da

 

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io

Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

 

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Kingett

Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

                 John

 

                 John