Re: Podcast Reader
David Griffith
I am a little embarrassed to say this after extolling its ability as an eBook reader but Speak On is also a very good Podcast reader as far as I am concerned. It has 4 main Podcast functions.
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1. Stream or download any Podcast / downloadable radio show available from TuneIn Radio. 2. The main Podcast App also has library of categorised Podcasts to search through. 3. there is a specialist separate Podcast app which can be downloaded via the tools and plugins menu which covers exclusively Podcasts concentrating on VI Issues. 4. You can also of course import normal OPML files to import or export your lists of Podcasts as in any other Podcast reader. Of course all the functionality of navigation and playback available to Audio Books is available through the Podcasts app including bookmarking, speeding up narration etc. The main difference compared to other Podcast Readers is that you navigate through all the Podcast episodes via the player window rather than the media library. So if you load the In Touch Podcast pressing the down arrow with the media granularity set will jump you through the episodes available in a Podcast feed. I have not as yet done a Podcast demonstrating Speak On and Podcasts but this will be done over the next few weeks during the lock down. David Griffith
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry Sent: 22 March 2020 21:30 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] PodCast Reader Is there a program works well with NVDA 20193.1 and Windows 10?
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Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
Hi, As a follow-up: I know that some of you will try to ask other developers offlist about Windows XP support after learning that I will say no. I would like to seriously ask that you DO NOT DO THAT ANYMORE! Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 3:02 PM To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,
First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while. Even if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.
Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.
At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:
Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, “sorry, no more, period.” These include:
Most importantly, I will flatly say “no” if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I’m either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA 2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.
My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I’m not speaking on behalf of other developers – others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.
I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say “no” to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn’t announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end – once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.
Thank you for understanding. Cheers, Joseph
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Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,
First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while. Even if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.
Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.
At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:
Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, “sorry, no more, period.” These include:
Most importantly, I will flatly say “no” if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I’m either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA 2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.
My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I’m not speaking on behalf of other developers – others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.
I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say “no” to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn’t announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end – once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.
Thank you for understanding. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Possible bug found
Roger Stewart
If you just press the numpad insert
key, there has never been a beep. This was an alert that you have
pressed either extended insert or caps lock key if they have been
set to also be the nvda key.
Roger
On 3/22/2020 3:57 PM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
Roger,
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Major Bug With Acapella TTS 1.6
Jesse Farquharson
Hello folks. I'm not sure if anyone from Acapella TTS is in this list. I would assume not, but I thought I'd put this here anyway and see what comes of it, as well as e-mailing the devs of the synth. So far... my experience with this version has not been very smooth. It's painfully slow to load, and seems to stop reading text at random when using the say all key command. Now, there is, so far, one instance I have seen where Acapella TTS will absolutely refuse to read, no matter what, say all mode or no. If I were to randomly insert =/\= in this line, Acapella TTS would absolutely refuse to read past it. It will not crash, it just won't read anything on the line with =/\= in it, in say all mode or otherwise.
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Re: Possible bug found
Roger Stewart
Oh, I thought the beeps were generated
by NVDA itself.
Roger
On 3/22/2020 4:24 PM, Chris Mullins
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Re: Q Read alternative
David Griffith
As far as I am aware he has already done this but the addon needs posting. I’ll check back to see what he said in his last email to me, however from memory it is either about to be posted or is imminent.
David Griffith Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:26 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
Hi
Do you know if he is going to update the speech hub add on? so it works with nvda 2019.3
When I tried it the last version was nvda 2019.2.1 I think it was I would have to check.
Gene nz
On 23/03/2020 8:01 am, David Griffith wrote:
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PodCast Reader
Andrea Sherry
Is there a program works well with NVDA 20193.1 and Windows 10?
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Re: Possible bug found
Chris Mullins
Hi Roger It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on. This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed. It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.
Cheers Chris
From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48 To: NVDA List Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found
I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA. I have the extended insert key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda modifier key. At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I press caps lock. However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key correctly. Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda modifier but no beep for the extended insert key? I had thought both keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly. If there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.
Roger
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Re: Possible bug found
Sascha Cowley
There is a windows setting to beep on caps lock. I think OP might
have enabled this.
On 23/03/2020 07:57, Brian Vogel wrote:
Roger,
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Re: Possible bug found
Roger,
Just as a data point, I have never heard an auditory cue from a press of the NVDA key when I've been using NVDA. I am guessing this is a setting somewhere, but not one I've ever used. The one auditory cue I do notice is the change from browse to focus mode, or vice versa. And I just experimented with NVDA while entering this message via the web interface. Hitting the Insert key (not 6-pack, in this case) does not produce any tone. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Possible bug found
Roger Stewart
I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA. I have the extended insert key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda modifier key. At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I press caps lock. However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key correctly. Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda modifier but no beep for the extended insert key? I had thought both keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly. If there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.
Roger
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Re: irrelevant information
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 06:04 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:
We ask what is relevant in these mailing lists and we areThis deserves a separate response of its own. On any group, and particularly those that are high traffic groups, there will always be tons of topics that do not hold even the slightest interest to a given reader even if they are entirely on-topic for the list. This is precisely the reason I wrote the tutorial (take your pick of download format): Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx) Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (PDF) -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Q Read alternative
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
Do you know if he is going to update the speech hub add on? so it works with nvda 2019.3
When I tried it the last version was nvda 2019.2.1 I think it was I would have to check.
Gene nz
On 23/03/2020 8:01 am, David Griffith
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Re: One Core Synth
Chris,
This is similar to a method I used, and I can't recall whether it was under JAWS or NVDA, when the word cup was being read as Cuban Pesos if the document was a recipe where the format, "X cup," or "Y cups," is commonly used. Making the replacement string have a capital C eliminated it being spoken as Cuban Pesos. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
There was a list of books and websites that come across the list a while back so saved them just in case.
They are a list from people on this list who found the resources handy for learning python.
they might go from easy to hard? in learning it.
It does not have in the list what program you use which I guess would help or which ones the blind programmers find works well with nvda. But that could be added.
I can put the list on my website maybe off the useful resources page so is easier to find if others want to learn python etc
The list is below.
Learning Python books and courses
Learn python the hard way https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/
A python hands on tutorial http://anh.cs.luc.edu/python/hands-on/3.1/handsonHtml/index.html
Python for Everybody: Exploring Data Using Python 3 https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/textbooks/336
And some online courses,
These are free, but if you want a certificate of completion, you can pay for it if you pass the course.
Introduction to Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-for-data-science
Python for data science https://www.edx.org/course/python-for-data-science-1
Introduction to Python: Absolute Beginner https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-absolute-beginner-2
Introduction to Python: Fundamentals https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-fundamentals-2
Principles of Machine Learning: Python Edition https://www.edx.org/course/principles-of-machine-learning-python-edition
Computing in Python I: Fundamentals and Procedural Programming https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-i-fundamentals-and-procedural-programming-2
Computing in Python II: Control Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-ii-control-structures-2
Computing in Python III: Data Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iii-data-structures-2
Computing in Python IV: Objects & Algorithms https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iv-objects-algorithms-2
Visualizing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-visualization-with-python
Advanced Algorithmics and Graph Theory with Python https://www.edx.org/course/advanced-algorithmics-and-graph-theory-with-python
Analyzing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-analysis-with-python
Deep Learning with Python and PyTorch https://www.edx.org/course/deep-learning-with-python-and-pytorch
Python Basics for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/python-basics-for-data-science
Machine Learning with Python: A Practical Introduction https://www.edx.org/course/machine-learning-with-python-for-edx
Using Python for Research https://www.edx.org/course/using-python-for-research
Introduction to Python: Creating Scalable, Robust, Interactive Code https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-creating-scalable-robust-interactive-code
Programming with Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/programming-with-python-for-data-science
Introduction to Programming Using Python https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-programming-using-python
CS For All: Introduction to Computer Science and Python Programming https://www.edx.org/course/cs-all-introduction-computer-science-harveymuddx-cs005x-0
These are all pay courses, but if you are careful, you can buy bundles that have multiple courses in them.
Stone river elearning has 32 python courses at: https://stoneriverelearning.com/courses/category/Python
skillwise has several python courses, some of which are listed below.
Python Programming Bootcamp 2.0 https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-programming-bootcamp-2-2
Python 3 Bootcamp Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-bootcamp-2017-python-3
Machine Learning with Python Course and E-Book Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-machine-learning-online-course-and-book-bundle
Deep Learning: Convolutional Neural Networks in Python https://www.skillwise.com/sales/deep-learning-convolutional-neural-networks-in-python
The Python Power Coder BONUS Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-power-coder-bonus-bundle
Become a Professional Python Programmer https://www.skillwise.com/sales/become-a-professional-python-programmer
Python Tutorial: Python 100% Hands-On - Learn by Coding https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-tutorial-python-100-hands-on-learn-by-coding
Pay What You Want: The Python Master Class Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/pwyw-the-python-master-class-bundle
And, finally, educba.com also has python courses such as:
Become a Python Developer
Artificial Intelligence with python python 3.5 Training The Ultimate python Programming - Novice to Ninja Practical Projects of python Programming python:01 - python Fundamentals Data Science with python python for Beginners Machine Learning using python
Now, I know the educba classes are expensive if bought separately, but if you hang out on stacksocial.com or even skillwise.com ( at times) you can purchase whole groups of training all at once. I got a deal for all of stone river Elearning for $59, then for $99 I got the whole collection of educba classes. (the next day, I saw it for $49) *grumble*), so if you're patient, and if you really want to learn, there's no reason why you can't learn anything you like. This is just talking about python classes and books, but this works for just about any topic.
stackskills.com also has several python courses, and I got access to 1100 plus courses (all it/technology related for $19 again, from stacksocial.com
https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/
Here's A Byte of Python.
Here's Think Python.
http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html
Here's one on programming games.
Finally, here's a link somebody posted a while back to stuff Joseph wrote up.
On 23/03/2020 8:34 am, Greg Wocher
wrote:
Hello,
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Re: NVDA addon development beginner
Greg Wocher
Hello,
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There is a good free book available on git hub. It is called dive into python 3. It is completely free. Just do a search for the title of the book and it should be easy to find. Greg Wocher
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Re: One Core Synth
Chris Mullins
Hi I’ve fiddled around with this for a while and the following regular expression seems to work nicely:
Pattern: \bunch Replacement: unCh
Note the “C” in the replacement is capitalised.
Cheers Chris
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 21 March 2020 18:17 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] One Core Synth
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 02:06 PM, Joseph Lee wrote, to describe the Voice Dictionary:
Thanks for the clarification. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Q Read alternative
David Griffith
Speak On supports Daisy through its Audio Books app but I don’t know about XML 5 but if somebody sent me a sample I could try it and see. Speak On is self-voicing much like Kurzweil so you would not use a Screenreader with it as it is controlled just as if you were using a screenreader.
Isaac told me that he has updated the NVDA and Speech Player addons to be compatible with the latest version of NVDA but I don’t think they have been published yet. As I understand it the NVDA addon simply mutes NVDA whilst Speak On is in Focus
David Griffith
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 18:23 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative
David, the NFB content is Daisy, which xml files.
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important brouser update notice
Hi all.
This stuff just came from my winaero posting. According to winaero at least, it appears that due to the virus, there are a few pauses. Firstly, edge, and chrome are not going to recieve any updates at least till this virus goes away. So while there will be security and stability updates no new versions. Next, the insiders group has a new windows 1909 and 1903 update in fast ring this is usually not mentioned as such on winaero but still. This could signal another optional. Point is, if you want 81.0 on chrome you will need to get it from beta if not, well you may want to use something else. In addition mozilla is reenabling old ssl/tls 1.1 and 1.0 while this virus is on because some sites will not be updated just yet to the new 1.2 standard.
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