Date   

Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

Akshaya Choudhary
 

What is eclipse add-on?

--
Regards,
Sociohack


SayProductNameAndVersion V2020.03 for compatibility specification

Patrick ZAJDA
 

Hello all,


I just updated SayProductNameAndVersion add-on to reflect compatibility with the upcoming NVDA version.


Download link: https://github.com/Nardol/SayProductNameAndVersion/releases/download/v2020.03/sayProductNameAndVersion-2020.03.nvda-addon


Best regards,

--
Patrick ZAJDA


Re: NVDA addon development beginner

 

skype does not support windows xp and using newer windows is not
possible for me now.

On 3/23/20, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
what is rong with your windows
the latest desktop skype supports windows 10

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner


thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io>
wrote:
hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and
take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please
note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct
communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain
unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows
10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Dropbox addon 4.5-dev is released

Patrick ZAJDA
 

Hello,


This version only change the last NVDA version tested and is fully translatted in French. Sory for other languages.


The link to download it is: https://github.com/Nardol/dropbox/releases/download/v4.5-dev/dropbox-4.5-dev.nvda-addon


Best regards,


--
Patrick ZAJDA


Re: Possible bug found

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Sandra

When you go into the Ease of Access settings, as well as unchecking the toggle buttons for Sticky, Toggle and Filter keys, ensure you also uncheck the check boxes that allow the shortcut keys for these features to work. When you have done this, tab until you get to the “Home” button and press enter.  You should land in the top level Settings dialog, press Alt+f4 to close this.  Now you have disabled the shortcut keys for these features, you will not be able to accidentally switch them back on during normal keyboard use.  if you ever need to use any of them, you will have to go into the Ease of Access keyboard settings to 1 enable the feature and/or 2 enable the shortcut key that controls the feature.

 

Cheers

Chris       

 

From: Sandra Johnson
Sent: 23 March 2020 00:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

Hello:

 

I have this issue too.  No matter how many times I go into the ease of use settings and turn off those very annoying beeps, they just keep coming back again.  I always click on apply when I finish turning them off but they come back anyway.  If anyone figures out how to fix this issue, my sensitive ears and headaches will appreciate it. 

 

Sandra Johnson

SLJohnson25@...

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 5:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

Oh, I thought the beeps were generated by NVDA itself.

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/22/2020 4:24 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Roger

It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on.  This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed.  It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.

    

Cheers

Chris 

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert

key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda

modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something

as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I

press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key

correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda

modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both

keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key

but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If

there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then

this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I

have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.

 

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


Ignore my last post. I looked again under 'u'. and found it.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 12:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Hi everyone,


NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 is now available for testing. Although a smaller release than 2019.3, it still contains some very important fixes, features and support for more Braille displays than ever. Find out all about what's new and download the beta from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/


Kind regards

QUentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


I have a braille edge 40. When I looked at the HIMS options I noticed that UEB wasn't listed in the US braille section.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 12:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Hi everyone,


NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 is now available for testing. Although a smaller release than 2019.3, it still contains some very important fixes, features and support for more Braille displays than ever. Find out all about what's new and download the beta from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/


Kind regards

QUentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA addon development beginner

Kerryn Gunness
 

what is rong with your windows
the latest desktop skype supports windows 10

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner


thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows 10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

mslion
 

Dear all,
for my work I use eclipse and the accompanying add-on. Now I would
like to update my NVDA but I need to know if this add-on for eclipse
is compatible?
Thanks in advance for your answers.

With kind regards,
Mitchel Snel


Re: Possible bug found

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Roger

There is a shortcut key to switch this feature on and off.  Just hold down the Num Lock key until you hear a double beep.  If you are switching toggle keys on, the second of the two beeps is higher in pitch and Windows will display a dialog box asking you to confirm if you want Toggle keys on or not.  You can just press enter on the yes or no button or read the entire dialog by pressing NVDA+b.  When you switch it off, the second note of the double beep descends in pitch and there is no dialog.

 

Cheers

Chris    

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 21:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

Oh, I thought the beeps were generated by NVDA itself.

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/22/2020 4:24 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Roger

It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on.  This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed.  It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.

    

Cheers

Chris 

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert

key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda

modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something

as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I

press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key

correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda

modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both

keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key

but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If

there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then

this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I

have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.

 

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: irrelevant information

Peter Beasley
 

I totally agree.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: 22 March 2020 11:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] irrelevant information

 

Hello Wally,

 

With all due respect, many people still use Window-Eyes.  Some people

with limited needs do not need any further advancements. Furthermore,

this attitude of yours would also eliminate the discussion of such

programs widely used by the blind because  of their accessibility such

as Windows Live Mail and Udora mail.  These programs are also not being

developed any more but they are quite serviceable for the needs of many

people.

 

 

 

On 3/22/2020 6:04 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

> Hi gurus

> This is Wally from SA.

> I am often confused by people still referring others to what is no longer there.

> When one asks for assistance, one expects you, gurus to assist in

> terms of what we now have.

> I would like to request the administrators of these lists to mute

> those people who continuously mislead us.

> We do not have Window Eyes any longer so, according to me assisting

> someone using the mentality of ignoring change, does not help the

> blind community.

> Census, why is this topic allowed here? Is it about technology?

> Let these lists be used in context.

> I am not angry, but concerned.

> We ask what is relevant in these mailing lists and we are

> unfortunately not responded to due to unnecessary conversations that

> take place on the lists.

> Let us respect the lists for purposes of learning and self-enhancement.

> The lists are meant for us to learn and effectively use technology and

> not for anything else.

> Thanking you in advance for your understanding.

> Wally Marisane: SA

>

 

--

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

They ask: "How Happy are You?"

I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA addon development beginner

 

thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows 10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

hi joseph.
as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newer
versions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda on
xp.
and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing or
unresponsiveness in any version of windows!
my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixes
which i am sure benefits everyone.

On 3/23/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,



First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen
to
advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health
officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while.
Even
if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice
social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and
community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please
support each other.



Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about
NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons
compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting
newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version
compatible with Windows XP.



At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP,
with
many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an
individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I
would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:



Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following
for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry, no more, period."
These include:



* Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and
Server 2008
* Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you
knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
* Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA
2017.3
* Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows
XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users



Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to ask NV
Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features
introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons,
including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example),
incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example),
features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example),
support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for
example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor
and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors
have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'm either
maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA
2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.



My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you
can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an
individual
developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf of other
developers - others have their own policies regarding support for Windows
XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last
version
compatible with Windows XP.



I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted
folks
to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand
that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases
(including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a
bold statement and say "no" to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note
on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support
Windows
XP, but didn't announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will
understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close
the
doors to Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is an individual
developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing
that
others will make statements on their own.



Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Podcast Reader

Isaac Porat
 

Hi


Just to add to David's list of features that you can also search an international store and just about find most podcasts on earth!

Then you can add those you want to your favourites.


Regards

Isaac

On 22/03/2020 22:35, David Griffith wrote:
I am a little embarrassed to say this after extolling its ability as an eBook reader but Speak On is also a very good Podcast reader as far as I am concerned. It has 4 main Podcast functions.
1. Stream or download any Podcast / downloadable radio show available from TuneIn Radio.
2. The main Podcast App also has library of categorised Podcasts to search through.
3. there is a specialist separate Podcast app which can be downloaded via the tools and plugins menu which covers exclusively Podcasts concentrating on VI Issues.
4. You can also of course import normal OPML files to import or export your lists of Podcasts as in any other Podcast reader.


Of course all the functionality of navigation and playback available to Audio Books is available through the Podcasts app including bookmarking, speeding up narration etc.

The main difference compared to other Podcast Readers is that you navigate through all the Podcast episodes via the player window rather than the media library.
So if you load the In Touch Podcast pressing the down arrow with the media granularity set will jump you through the episodes available in a Podcast feed.

I have not as yet done a Podcast demonstrating Speak On and Podcasts but this will be done over the next few weeks during the lock down.
David Griffith






-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: 22 March 2020 21:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PodCast Reader

Is there a program works well with NVDA 20193.1 and Windows 10?







Re: NVDA addon development beginner

 

hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and take a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain unavailable to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows 10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Q Read alternative

Isaac Porat
 

Hi


This is Isaac Porat the developer of SpeakOn.


Last time I updated SpeakOn was three years ago mainly because it did what I wanted to do for myself as a blind user.

Everything still works and there are no known bugs.


There is however one issue with Tunein, the favourites facility does not work any more. So in practice if you listened to a station, after you shutdown SpeakOn and start it again your last station is still there waiting for you but you can't have your favourites, list this is because Tunein does not support it for the API that SpeakOn is using and there is nothing I can do about it unless someday I store it locally.

To get around this you can use the find facility in SpeakOn Tunein task (app) and find your station in seconds.


Regards

Isaac

On 22/03/2020 16:26, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
TuneIn? Wow you guys got me hooked! I’ll definitely listen to the podcasts shared earlier, and try it out! thanks for the recommendation!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 22 mar 2020, a la(s) 10:10 a.m., David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> escribió:



Speak On was developed in the UK so the only direct connections it has to download is content from the RNIB eText and Audio Newsagent service and it also connects directly to TuneIn Radio if you have an account with them.
However it does have a “Virtual Reader” function which interacts with the automatic eText digital content generated by for Newspapers and Magazines in the UK which makes for a more pleasant reading experience.
If Newsline produces material in ePub2 format then it may be worth importing the content into Speak On and try reading it with the RNIB eText Newsagent app anyway to see if this provides a good experience.
If you wanted to do this you would need to first of all add the RNIB eText app from the add plugins section of the Tools menu and then place your Newsline content, assuming it is epPub2 into the Current Reading directory under the RNIB etect directory under My Speak On media folder.

Of course you can also read the ePub also using Speak On’s eBook function – one of the worst decisions Isaac took was to name this app Text Publications which disguises it utility as an eBook reader.

David Griffith

So it cannot, as far as I am aware connect
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: john s
Sent: 22 March 2020 14:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

David, does speak on handle NFB Newsline content?

Also, can the program use my screen reader?

At 09:56 AM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:

OK
My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open drive.

The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.

The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow.
I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.

Speak On Resources
You can download Speak On media Suite from
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


Speak On Media Podcast

01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3
This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available
by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into
Speak On Media.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3
This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume
of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q


04 Reading eBooks on Speak On
This covers.
-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.
-changing the Reading Voice.
- Navigation levels available in the eBook.
- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.
-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.
- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.
- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.
- Saving Sections of the book as text files.
- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2


05 Speak On and Internet Radio
This Podcast covers
- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.
- Using the optional VI Radio app.
- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8


Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m


06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie


07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

This Podcasts covers.
1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.
Installing the task and logging into the eText service.
Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.
Setting up favourite papers.
Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7


08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service

As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download
and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in
this use case.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

It is not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative


The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

John



Re: Podcast Reader

john s
 

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say, podcast player rather than reader?


At 08:21 PM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:
The default on install is eSpeak, like old style NVDA Â Â which I find personally a little unfriendly but it can be changed to any English Sapi 5 voice.
In the demos I show changing from eSpeak to Hazel which is the default  Sapi 5 in Windows 10in the UK ,   which I think instantly transform the impression of the app,  then Ivona Brian, a voice I purchased, and an ancient version of ScanSoft Daniel.
It also works with the voices provided with Speech Hub.
It does not support any of the One Core Voices.
David Griffith
 
 
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 22 March 2020 22:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Podcast Reader
 
Especially for those on Windows10, what voice does the program use? Core1? Because the English Sapi5 on Windows10 sounds terrible!
 
                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10
 
De: David Griffith
Enviado: domingo, 22 de marzo de 2020 04:35 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Podcast Reader
 
I am a little embarrassed to say this after extolling its ability as an eBook reader but Speak On is also a very good Podcast reader as far as I am concerned. It has 4 main Podcast functions.
1. Stream or download any Podcast  / downloadable radio show available from TuneIn Radio.
2. The main Podcast App also has  library of categorised Podcasts to search through.
3. there is a specialist  separate Podcast app which can be downloaded via the tools and plugins menu which covers exclusively Podcasts concentrating on VI Issues.
4. You can also of course import normal OPML files to import or export your lists of Podcasts as in any other Podcast reader.
 
 
Of course all the functionality of navigation and playback available to Audio Books is available through the Podcasts app including bookmarking, speeding up narration etc.
 
The main difference compared to other Podcast Readers is that you navigate through all the Podcast episodes via the player window rather than the media library.
So if you load the In Touch Podcast pressing the down arrow with the media granularity set will jump you through the episodes  available in a Podcast feed.
 
I have not as yet done a Podcast demonstrating  Speak On and Podcasts but this will be done over the next few weeks during the lock down.
David Griffith
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: 22 March 2020 21:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PodCast Reader
 
Is there a program works well with NVDA 20193.1 and Windows 10?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

                 John


Re: Q Read alternative

Isaac Porat
 

Hi Gene


This is Isaac the developer of both SpeakOn and SpeechHub


Yes, I developed both add-ons for SpeakOn and SpeechHub for the latest NVDA version 2019.3.1

I operate both here on my computer and a couple of testers found no problem with these.

I want to do a bit more testing, as you have tested for me before both SpeechHub and SpeakOn you are welcome to write to me off list and I shall let you know how to obtain these add-ons for testing.


Regards

Isaac

On 22/03/2020 20:26, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


Do you know if he is going to update the speech hub add on? so it works with nvda 2019.3


When I tried it  the last version was nvda 2019.2.1 I think it was I would have to check.


Gene nz


On 23/03/2020 8:01 am, David Griffith wrote:

Speak On supports Daisy through its Audio Books app but I don’t know about XML 5 but if somebody sent me a sample I could try it and see.

Speak On is self-voicing much like Kurzweil so you would not use a Screenreader with it as it is controlled just as if you were using a screenreader.

Isaac told me that he has updated the NVDA and Speech Player addons to be compatible with the latest version of NVDA but I don’t think they have been published yet.

As I understand it the NVDA addon simply mutes NVDA whilst Speak On is in Focus

David Griffith

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *john s
*Sent:* 22 March 2020 18:23
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

David, the NFB content is Daisy, which xml files.

Can my screen reader be used in this program?

At 12:10 PM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:


    Speak On was developed in the UK so the only direct connections it
    has to download is content from the RNIB eText and Audio Newsagent
    service and it also connects directly to TuneIn Radio if you have
    an  account with them.
    However it does have a “Virtual Readerâ€�function which
    interacts with the automatic eText digital content generated by
    for Newspapers and Magazines in the UK which makes for a more
    pleasant reading experience.
    If Newsline produces material in ePub2 format then it may be worth
    importing the content into Speak On and try reading it with the
    RNIB eText Newsagent app anyway to see if this provides a good
    experience.
    If you wanted to do this you would need to first of all add the
    RNIB eText app from the add plugins section of the Tools menu and
    then place your Newsline content, assuming it is epPub2 Â into Â
    the Current Reading directory under the RNIB etect directory under
    My Speak On media folder.

    Of course you can also read the ePub also using Speak On’s eBook
    function – oone of the worst decisions Isaac took was to name this
    app Text Publications which disguises it utility as an eBook reader.

    David Griffith

    So it cannot, as far as I am aware connect
    Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
    for Windows 10

    *From: *john s <mailto:jschwery@...>
    *Sent: *22 March 2020 14:59
    *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

    David, does  speak on handle NFB Newsline content?

    Also, can the program use my screen reader?

    At 09:56 AM 3/22/2020, David Griffith, wrote:

    OK

    My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking
    Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On
    website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on
    SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is
    an issue then I will try and put them also on Open  drive.

    The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac
    the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major
    revisions of the app.

    The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on
    the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the
    Music app to follow.

    I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as
    half - way through the volume increases which is a little
    distracting.

    Speak On Resources

    You can download Speak On media Suite from

    http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

    Speak On Media Podcast

    01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3

    This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the
    default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to
    the range of apps available

    by default, and then the further apps available through additional
    optional plugins.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

    02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

    This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File
    Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books
    and other content into

    Speak On Media.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

    03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3

    This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books.
    It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying
    the speed and volume

    of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive
    help feature.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q

    04 Reading eBooks on Speak On

    This covers.

    -Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To
    Menu.

    -changing the Reading Voice.

    - Navigation levels available in the eBook.

    - Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.

    -Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.

    - Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.

    - Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.

    - Saving Sections of the book as text files.

    - Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2

    05 Speak On and Internet Radio

    This Podcast covers

    - Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.

    - Using the optional VI Radio app.

    - Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd
    Customised Internet Radio app.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8

    Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

    06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

    This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB
    Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie

    07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

    This Podcasts covers.

    1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText
    Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to
    streamline reading.

    Installing the task and logging into the eText service.

    Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and
    volume of playback.

    Setting up favourite papers.

    Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7

    08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service

    As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the
    Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need
    in some cases to download

    and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this
    workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On
    to read your magazines in

    this use case.

    https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da

    From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
    <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of
    David Griffith via Groups.Io

    Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41

    To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

    Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

    It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a
    lot lot more.

    I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

    David Griffith

    Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
    for Windows 10

    From: Robert Kingett <mailto:@blindjourno>

    Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44

    To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

    Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

    The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website?
    The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It
    seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if
    anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

    http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

                     John

                     John



Re: PodCast Reader

Jacob Kruger
 

This might not be specifically relevant to usage with NVDA, but, it's specifically accessible:

https://www.webbie.org.uk/accessiblepodcatcher/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-03-22 11:30 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Is there a program works well with NVDA 20193.1 and Windows 10?


Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2020.1: compatible

 

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce that all my add-ons are NVDA 2020.1 ready, No special modifications are required for all add-ons except StationPlaylist which has been modified to support changes introduced in upcoming NVDA release.

 

Speaking of Joseph Lee’s add-ons: version 20.04 of my add-ons (except Object location Tones) will be released in a few days. Most add-ons include localization updates, with several of them bringing various changes, both small and large. For example, Add-on Updater 20.04 will (finally) resolve an issue reported by users where “check for add-on updates” item didn’t show up in NVDA Tools menu, and StationPlaylist 20.04 will introduce a dedicated dialog to manage broadcast profiles. I’ll announce more details the day these add-on releases are made.

Cheers,

Joseph