Date   

Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:27 AM, mslion wrote:
I am curious if I can use it with nvda 2019.3.
First major item in the table on the very page you site:  https://github.com/albzan/eclipse-nvda/commit/bd4242fca95653dda421cfd4cd59dc6bd382137a

Since the comment associated is, updated addon for python3 updated scons . . .
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Quentin,

 

I am trying beta 1 and so far all is well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 2:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

 

Hi everyone,

 

NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 is now available for testing. Although a smaller release than 2019.3, it still contains some very important fixes, features and support for more Braille displays than ever. Find out all about what's new and download the beta from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/

 

Kind regards

 

QUentin.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

mslion
 

There is an add-on for the programming environment eclipse:
https://github.com/albzan/eclipse-nvda
And I am curious if I can use it with nvda 2019.3.

With kind regards,

Mitchel Snel

On 3/23/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
A great many add-ons, like the NVDA core code itself, are managed via
GitHub.  And that's whether they're officially vetted add-ons or not.

There are three add-ons for Eclipse, two of which have been updated this
year.  See: https://github.com/search?q=Eclipse+NVDA&type=

Simply going to GitHub and entering NVDA plus one other word specific to the
add-on in question generally zeros in on what's being looked for.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




Re: NVDA addon development beginner

Kerryn Gunness
 

i understand

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner


skype does not support windows xp and using newer windows is not
possible for me now.

On 3/23/20, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
what is rong with your windows
the latest desktop skype supports windows 10

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner


thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io>
wrote:
hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and
take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please
note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct
communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain
unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows
10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Q Read alternative

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hllo guys,
Is something like book warm and speak on is available for android?

--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

 

A great many add-ons, like the NVDA core code itself, are managed via GitHub.  And that's whether they're officially vetted add-ons or not.

There are three add-ons for Eclipse, two of which have been updated this year.  See:  https://github.com/search?q=Eclipse+NVDA&type=

Simply going to GitHub and entering NVDA plus one other word specific to the add-on in question generally zeros in on what's being looked for.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


installing beta

Don H
 

I am new with using the code factory vocalizer addon for NVDA. Do I need to deactivate the addon before installing the 2020.1 beta then reactivate the addon?


Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

Akshaya Choudhary
 

What is eclipse add-on?

--
Regards,
Sociohack


SayProductNameAndVersion V2020.03 for compatibility specification

Patrick ZAJDA
 

Hello all,


I just updated SayProductNameAndVersion add-on to reflect compatibility with the upcoming NVDA version.


Download link: https://github.com/Nardol/SayProductNameAndVersion/releases/download/v2020.03/sayProductNameAndVersion-2020.03.nvda-addon


Best regards,

--
Patrick ZAJDA


Re: NVDA addon development beginner

 

skype does not support windows xp and using newer windows is not
possible for me now.

On 3/23/20, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
what is rong with your windows
the latest desktop skype supports windows 10

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner


thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io>
wrote:
hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and
take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please
note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct
communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain
unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows
10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Dropbox addon 4.5-dev is released

Patrick ZAJDA
 

Hello,


This version only change the last NVDA version tested and is fully translatted in French. Sory for other languages.


The link to download it is: https://github.com/Nardol/dropbox/releases/download/v4.5-dev/dropbox-4.5-dev.nvda-addon


Best regards,


--
Patrick ZAJDA


Re: Possible bug found

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Sandra

When you go into the Ease of Access settings, as well as unchecking the toggle buttons for Sticky, Toggle and Filter keys, ensure you also uncheck the check boxes that allow the shortcut keys for these features to work. When you have done this, tab until you get to the “Home” button and press enter.  You should land in the top level Settings dialog, press Alt+f4 to close this.  Now you have disabled the shortcut keys for these features, you will not be able to accidentally switch them back on during normal keyboard use.  if you ever need to use any of them, you will have to go into the Ease of Access keyboard settings to 1 enable the feature and/or 2 enable the shortcut key that controls the feature.

 

Cheers

Chris       

 

From: Sandra Johnson
Sent: 23 March 2020 00:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

Hello:

 

I have this issue too.  No matter how many times I go into the ease of use settings and turn off those very annoying beeps, they just keep coming back again.  I always click on apply when I finish turning them off but they come back anyway.  If anyone figures out how to fix this issue, my sensitive ears and headaches will appreciate it. 

 

Sandra Johnson

SLJohnson25@...

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 5:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

Oh, I thought the beeps were generated by NVDA itself.

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/22/2020 4:24 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Roger

It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on.  This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed.  It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.

    

Cheers

Chris 

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert

key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda

modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something

as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I

press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key

correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda

modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both

keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key

but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If

there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then

this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I

have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.

 

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


Ignore my last post. I looked again under 'u'. and found it.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 12:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Hi everyone,


NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 is now available for testing. Although a smaller release than 2019.3, it still contains some very important fixes, features and support for more Braille displays than ever. Find out all about what's new and download the beta from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/


Kind regards

QUentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


I have a braille edge 40. When I looked at the HIMS options I noticed that UEB wasn't listed in the US braille section.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 12:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Hi everyone,


NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 is now available for testing. Although a smaller release than 2019.3, it still contains some very important fixes, features and support for more Braille displays than ever. Find out all about what's new and download the beta from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/


Kind regards

QUentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA addon development beginner

Kerryn Gunness
 

what is rong with your windows
the latest desktop skype supports windows 10

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner


thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows 10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

mslion
 

Dear all,
for my work I use eclipse and the accompanying add-on. Now I would
like to update my NVDA but I need to know if this add-on for eclipse
is compatible?
Thanks in advance for your answers.

With kind regards,
Mitchel Snel


Re: Possible bug found

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Roger

There is a shortcut key to switch this feature on and off.  Just hold down the Num Lock key until you hear a double beep.  If you are switching toggle keys on, the second of the two beeps is higher in pitch and Windows will display a dialog box asking you to confirm if you want Toggle keys on or not.  You can just press enter on the yes or no button or read the entire dialog by pressing NVDA+b.  When you switch it off, the second note of the double beep descends in pitch and there is no dialog.

 

Cheers

Chris    

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 21:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

Oh, I thought the beeps were generated by NVDA itself.

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/22/2020 4:24 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Roger

It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on.  This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed.  It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.

    

Cheers

Chris 

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert

key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda

modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something

as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I

press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key

correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda

modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both

keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key

but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If

there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then

this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I

have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.

 

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: irrelevant information

Peter Beasley
 

I totally agree.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: 22 March 2020 11:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] irrelevant information

 

Hello Wally,

 

With all due respect, many people still use Window-Eyes.  Some people

with limited needs do not need any further advancements. Furthermore,

this attitude of yours would also eliminate the discussion of such

programs widely used by the blind because  of their accessibility such

as Windows Live Mail and Udora mail.  These programs are also not being

developed any more but they are quite serviceable for the needs of many

people.

 

 

 

On 3/22/2020 6:04 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

> Hi gurus

> This is Wally from SA.

> I am often confused by people still referring others to what is no longer there.

> When one asks for assistance, one expects you, gurus to assist in

> terms of what we now have.

> I would like to request the administrators of these lists to mute

> those people who continuously mislead us.

> We do not have Window Eyes any longer so, according to me assisting

> someone using the mentality of ignoring change, does not help the

> blind community.

> Census, why is this topic allowed here? Is it about technology?

> Let these lists be used in context.

> I am not angry, but concerned.

> We ask what is relevant in these mailing lists and we are

> unfortunately not responded to due to unnecessary conversations that

> take place on the lists.

> Let us respect the lists for purposes of learning and self-enhancement.

> The lists are meant for us to learn and effectively use technology and

> not for anything else.

> Thanking you in advance for your understanding.

> Wally Marisane: SA

>

 

--

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

They ask: "How Happy are You?"

I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA addon development beginner

 

thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows 10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

hi joseph.
as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newer
versions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda on
xp.
and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing or
unresponsiveness in any version of windows!
my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixes
which i am sure benefits everyone.

On 3/23/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,



First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen
to
advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health
officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while.
Even
if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice
social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and
community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please
support each other.



Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about
NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons
compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting
newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version
compatible with Windows XP.



At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP,
with
many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an
individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I
would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:



Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following
for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry, no more, period."
These include:



* Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and
Server 2008
* Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you
knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
* Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA
2017.3
* Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows
XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users



Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to ask NV
Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features
introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons,
including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example),
incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example),
features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example),
support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for
example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor
and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors
have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'm either
maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA
2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.



My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you
can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an
individual
developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf of other
developers - others have their own policies regarding support for Windows
XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last
version
compatible with Windows XP.



I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted
folks
to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand
that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases
(including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a
bold statement and say "no" to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note
on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support
Windows
XP, but didn't announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will
understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close
the
doors to Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is an individual
developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing
that
others will make statements on their own.



Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali