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locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hi,

The exact statements from NV Access and developers back then were that using XP is now a security risk for many, and that people can use NVDA 2017.3 and old add-ons should they need to use XP and friends. As for my statement back then, it referred to my own add-ons. The statement I wrote below covers cases where a user would write to developers asking us to make certain new features available for old releases, which cannot be done, particularly now that we have fully moved onto Python 3.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 10:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hi, I don’t remember the time you and NVDA developers did say xp support was no longer going to work for users who still want to continue using xp.  You did say maybe 2 or 3 years ago you were going to no longer support xp and vista.  I think windows 7 is next. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: March 22, 2020 3:01 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,

 

First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while. Even if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.

 

Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

 

At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people  asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:

 

Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, “sorry, no more, period.” These include:

 

  • Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and Server 2008
  • Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
  • Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA 2017.3
  • Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users

 

Most importantly, I will flatly say “no” if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I’m either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA 2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.

 

My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I’m not speaking on behalf of other developers – others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

 

I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say “no” to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn’t announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end – once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.

 

Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

Arlene
 

Hi, I don’t remember the time you and NVDA developers did say xp support was no longer going to work for users who still want to continue using xp.  You did say maybe 2 or 3 years ago you were going to no longer support xp and vista.  I think windows 7 is next. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: March 22, 2020 3:01 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,

 

First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while. Even if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.

 

Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

 

At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people  asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:

 

Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, “sorry, no more, period.” These include:

 

  • Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and Server 2008
  • Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
  • Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA 2017.3
  • Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users

 

Most importantly, I will flatly say “no” if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I’m either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA 2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.

 

My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I’m not speaking on behalf of other developers – others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

 

I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say “no” to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn’t announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end – once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.

 

Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

locked Re: Free License Offer: Tweet by Freedom Scientific on Twitter

 

I have absolutely no love whatsoever for Vispero, but if this topic isn't an example of, "No good deed goes unpunished," then nothing could be.

Since the necessary information is out, and for which I thank Laurie Mehta, this topic is now locked.
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locked Re: Free License Offer: Tweet by Freedom Scientific on Twitter

 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 01:41 PM, Clement Chou wrote:
offer unrestricted licenses for a period of time.
Uh, that's precisely what they're doing.  I don't see any distinction between what I quoted above and "a short term license with a time restriction."  Unless you mean they should be offering this to businesses as well, which I guess they could, but most businesses where JAWS is a need are very likely to have it licensed already.
 
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locked Re: Free License Offer: Tweet by Freedom Scientific on Twitter

 

Vispero/Freedom Scientific is not changing its business model, that's for certain.

But, making JAWS available at home, for 3 months, for those who use it at the office is still a good thing.  If they would happen to get additional subscribers, what's wrong with that?  No one is forcing anyone to take advantage of the offer nor to subscribe when it expires.  And I won't be surprised if there's a "round two" offer were this ongoing pandemic span longer than June 30th (heaven forfend!!).
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locked Re: Free License Offer: Tweet by Freedom Scientific on Twitter

Clement Chou
 

Agreed. And a short term license with a time restriction? No thank
you... it would've made more sense for them to either slash prices or
offer unrestricted licenses for a period of time. Can't tell me they
can't afford to let a few copies go for free with the amount of years
they've been operating.

On 3/23/20, Jesse Farquharson <jesse100rules@...> wrote:
Okay, I have to be honest here. This actually, really, really bothers
me. Making it free in the short term to attract long term customers in
the face of something like the corona virus. It seems more calculated to
benefit their bottom line than help people by, say, slashing license
prices for full licenses by a significant amount.

I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but it's how I feel. As far as I'm aware,
NVDA can do the same things as JAWS, and then some. I can count on one
hand the number of times I've had to use JAWS since I got this computer
almost four years ago.

On 3/23/2020 1:17 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
*Freedom Scientific (@FreedomSci <https://twitter.com/freedomsci?s=11>)*
3/23/20, 09:28
<https://twitter.com/freedomsci/status/1242080848574156802?s=11>
1 of 2) We know many of you must remain at home and continue to
work/attend school remotely. To ensure life remains accessible we are
offering those in the US/Canada a Free Home License of JAWS, ZoomText,
or Fusion that will expire 6/30/2020. Learn more:
portal.freedomscientific.com/SponsoredSoftw… <https://t.co/cqZDh618pW>


Download <https://twitter.com/download?ref_src=MailTweet-iOS> the
Twitter app


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locked Re: Free License Offer: Tweet by Freedom Scientific on Twitter

David Mehler
 

This is kind of off topic, IMO, but I'll just say that this jaws offer
does not offer remote support, which I would think home-stuck
users/workers need. I agree with Jesse.

On 3/23/20, Jesse Farquharson <jesse100rules@...> wrote:
Okay, I have to be honest here. This actually, really, really bothers
me. Making it free in the short term to attract long term customers in
the face of something like the corona virus. It seems more calculated to
benefit their bottom line than help people by, say, slashing license
prices for full licenses by a significant amount.

I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but it's how I feel. As far as I'm aware,
NVDA can do the same things as JAWS, and then some. I can count on one
hand the number of times I've had to use JAWS since I got this computer
almost four years ago.

On 3/23/2020 1:17 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
*Freedom Scientific (@FreedomSci <https://twitter.com/freedomsci?s=11>)*
3/23/20, 09:28
<https://twitter.com/freedomsci/status/1242080848574156802?s=11>
1 of 2) We know many of you must remain at home and continue to
work/attend school remotely. To ensure life remains accessible we are
offering those in the US/Canada a Free Home License of JAWS, ZoomText,
or Fusion that will expire 6/30/2020. Learn more:
portal.freedomscientific.com/SponsoredSoftw… <https://t.co/cqZDh618pW>


Download <https://twitter.com/download?ref_src=MailTweet-iOS> the
Twitter app


“May the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times and in
every way.”
 (2 Thessalonians 3:16)


locked Re: Free License Offer: Tweet by Freedom Scientific on Twitter

Jesse Farquharson
 

Okay, I have to be honest here. This actually, really, really bothers me. Making it free in the short term to attract long term customers in the face of something like the corona virus. It seems more calculated to benefit their bottom line than help people by, say, slashing license prices for full licenses by a significant amount.

I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but it's how I feel. As far as I'm aware, NVDA can do the same things as JAWS, and then some. I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to use JAWS since I got this computer almost four years ago.

On 3/23/2020 1:17 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Freedom Scientific (@FreedomSci)
1 of 2) We know many of you must remain at home and continue to work/attend school remotely. To ensure life remains accessible we are offering those in the US/Canada a Free Home License of JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion that will expire 6/30/2020. Learn more: portal.freedomscientific.com/SponsoredSoftw…

Download the Twitter app


“May the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times and in every way.”
 (2 Thessalonians 3:16) 

locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 12:20 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
I said, NO!
And very clearly, the first time.

No one, and I do mean no one, is actively supporting XP on new software.  There happens to be some that, by chance, remains compatible, but the vast majority is not and has not been for many years.

Those who have to "make do" with XP must keep their own archive of "last compatible versions" for any software they use (in case they would ever need to reinstall) and make do with it.  And I feel a great deal of sympathy for anyone trapped with XP and having to make do, but that doesn't change how the world of technology works.  XP is not only dead as a daily driver OS, but it's proverbial remains have turned to dust.
 
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

locked Free License Offer: Tweet by Freedom Scientific on Twitter

Laurie Mehta
 

Freedom Scientific (@FreedomSci)
1 of 2) We know many of you must remain at home and continue to work/attend school remotely. To ensure life remains accessible we are offering those in the US/Canada a Free Home License of JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion that will expire 6/30/2020. Learn more: portal.freedomscientific.com/SponsoredSoftw…

Download the Twitter app


“May the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times and in every way.”
 (2 Thessalonians 3:16) 

locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hi,
I said, NO!
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 3:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

hi joseph.
as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newer versions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda on xp.
and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing or unresponsiveness in any version of windows!
my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixes which i am sure benefits everyone.

On 3/23/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,



First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone
listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including
public health officials recommending folks to exercise social
distancing for a while.
Even
if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice
social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic
and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global
movement, please support each other.



Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests
about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included
making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues,
and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA
2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.



At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows
XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows
releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA
screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the
following personal announcement:



Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the
following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry, no more, period."
These include:



* Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and
Server 2008
* Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you
knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
* Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA
2017.3
* Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows
XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users



Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to
ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many
features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for
various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error
announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader
Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly
with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer
recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad
changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and
multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors
have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'm
either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them
support NVDA
2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.



My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that
you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an
individual developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf
of other developers - others have their own policies regarding support
for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA
2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.



I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted
folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I
understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software
releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is
time to make a bold statement and say "no" to Windows XP support. In
the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not
and does not support Windows XP, but didn't announce a statement like
this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But
alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support
from my end - once again, this is an individual developer saying this,
not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make
statements on their own.



Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph





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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Edge already works in my language

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hello all,

I have set finally Edge to language Czech. The Edge Chromium is set in English, but finally it is in Czech. It's OK.

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Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:27 AM, mslion wrote:
I am curious if I can use it with nvda 2019.3.
First major item in the table on the very page you site:  https://github.com/albzan/eclipse-nvda/commit/bd4242fca95653dda421cfd4cd59dc6bd382137a

Since the comment associated is, updated addon for python3 updated scons . . .
 
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Re: NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Quentin,

 

I am trying beta 1 and so far all is well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 2:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

 

Hi everyone,

 

NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 is now available for testing. Although a smaller release than 2019.3, it still contains some very important fixes, features and support for more Braille displays than ever. Find out all about what's new and download the beta from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/

 

Kind regards

 

QUentin.

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Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

mslion
 

There is an add-on for the programming environment eclipse:
https://github.com/albzan/eclipse-nvda
And I am curious if I can use it with nvda 2019.3.

With kind regards,

Mitchel Snel

On 3/23/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
A great many add-ons, like the NVDA core code itself, are managed via
GitHub.  And that's whether they're officially vetted add-ons or not.

There are three add-ons for Eclipse, two of which have been updated this
year.  See: https://github.com/search?q=Eclipse+NVDA&type=

Simply going to GitHub and entering NVDA plus one other word specific to the
add-on in question generally zeros in on what's being looked for.
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*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna



Re: NVDA addon development beginner

Kerryn Gunness
 

i understand

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner


skype does not support windows xp and using newer windows is not
possible for me now.

On 3/23/20, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
what is rong with your windows
the latest desktop skype supports windows 10

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner


thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io>
wrote:
hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and
take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please
note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct
communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain
unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows
10.

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*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: Q Read alternative

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hllo guys,
Is something like book warm and speak on is available for android?

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Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

 

A great many add-ons, like the NVDA core code itself, are managed via GitHub.  And that's whether they're officially vetted add-ons or not.

There are three add-ons for Eclipse, two of which have been updated this year.  See:  https://github.com/search?q=Eclipse+NVDA&type=

Simply going to GitHub and entering NVDA plus one other word specific to the add-on in question generally zeros in on what's being looked for.
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

installing beta

Don H
 

I am new with using the code factory vocalizer addon for NVDA. Do I need to deactivate the addon before installing the 2020.1 beta then reactivate the addon?

Re: eclipse add-on ready for 2019.3 rlease of NVDA?

Akshaya Choudhary
 

What is eclipse add-on?

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