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Re: Anyway of Getting NVDA 19.3.1 to Read Unlabeled Graphics?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

Thanks. I'll take a look at it.

On 3/25/2020 7:28 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


I think the golden cursor does some thing like that. I know it can do hot points  like in a scanner program I had the graphics had a picture or graphic so you could as it was only accessed with a mouse put it on the graphic do a hot point for it you could do a few for other areas as well then wen you went into the app use the elements list go to the one you want and the mouse would go to that area then I could use it.


Best bet is give it a whirl and see if that does the trick. You can also move the mouse with arrow keys etc.


The link to the page where you can get it from is https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/goldenCursor.en.html


Gene nz


On 26/03/2020 11:18 am, Kenny wrote:
Hope everyone is doing well?


I'm a former user of JAWS. Find myself going back to use it for left mouse clicking on unlabeled graphics found on some application windows.


The NVDA review cursor only seems to read text displayed on the screen. Since the graphic isn't generating a separate nav object, I'm not able to use that NVDA reading function to see it either. Is there any way of getting NVDA to read the numeric window handle integer of an unlabeled graphic? Sort of how JAWS "Say All Graphics" mode does?


Just say something letting me know a graphic is there, so I can route the mouse p        ointer to that spot and left click on it.


Maybe there's an add-on available that gives NVDA that functionality?




Re: Q Read alternative

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi david


could I link to those files in a page I am putting together?


I was not aware of them until you posted them.


If I can then I will also put it into a page where they can get it from etc etc so it makes it easier for people to find.


Gene nz


On 23/03/2020 2:56 am, David Griffith wrote:

OK

My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open  drive.

 

The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.

 

The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow.

I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.

 

Speak On Resources

You can download Speak On media Suite from

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

 

Speak On Media Podcast

 

01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available

by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

 

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

 

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into

Speak On Media.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

 

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3

This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume

of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q

 

 

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On

This covers.

-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.

-changing the Reading Voice.

- Navigation levels available in the eBook.

- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.

-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.

- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.

- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.

- Saving Sections of the book as text files.

- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2

 

 

05 Speak On and Internet Radio

This Podcast covers

- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.

- Using the optional VI Radio app.

- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8

 

 

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

 

 

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

 

This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie

 

 

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

 

This Podcasts covers.

1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.

Installing the task and logging into the eText service.

Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.

Setting up favourite papers.

Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7

 

 

08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service

 

As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download

and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in

this use case.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da

 

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

 

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 


Re: problems with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Brian


I have been looking at the dates and if they are old dates those ones seem not to work  unless it has a much later date.


for example tip of the day shows on the main part of the add on website and also under the under development but will not work with nvda 2019.3


Gene nz


Gene nz


On 26/03/2020 11:07 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
My understanding is that all add-ons shown on the NVDA Community Add-Ons Main Page are compatible with whatever the current version of NVDA happens to be at a given moment in time.

Quite a few of the ones on the Under Development Add-Ons Page are as well.

The Legacy Add-Ons Page includes ones only compatible with some former version or versions of NVDA.

Clipspeak is showing on the Community Add-Ons Main Page.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: problems with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


It might not of been updated to work with the latest version of nvda. I just remember a problem a while back like that he mentioned doing that and am pretty sure it was that add on. Some people have not come up to the latest version of nvda yet because some of there add ons will not work with it.


Gene nz


On 26/03/2020 11:00 am, Arlene wrote:

What? I thought clip speak doesn’t work for the latest version of NVDA. I uninstalled it thinking it will not work.  I’ll try to get it back.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: March 25, 2020 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with nvda

 

Hi

 

 

if i remember right there was a add on called clip speak which would do

some thing strange like that.

 

 

I would go to copy a file but it would not copy it or some times it

would  then i could paste it.

 

 

But have nto used it for a long time so that bug might of been fixed.

 

 

I am sure it was that add on? if you have it disabled  it then try and

copy a file etc and see if it does the job if yes properly a few times

then re enable the add on and see it it mucks up again..

 

Then if that is the case it is that add on.

 

 

I think it might of been based off the fake clipboard add on?

 

 

Gene nz

 

 

If it does

 

On 26/03/2020 9:41 am, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

> Hi nvda gurus

> I trust you are well even in this era of corona.

> I have been facing challenges with nvda over the past few days.

> nvda does behave strangely.

> When I cut a file from one location to another, the file does not get cut.

> Even when I am sure that I did cut it, it remains in the original

> location as if I copied it.

> This is confusing to be told 'replace the file' which one is sure one

> has cut from the original location.

> What is wrong here?

> I am convinced that it is not Windows but nvda, because jaws does not do that.

> Your assistance is appreciated in this regard.

> Wally

>

 

 

 


Re: Anyway of Getting NVDA 19.3.1 to Read Unlabeled Graphics?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I think the golden cursor does some thing like that. I know it can do hot points  like in a scanner program I had the graphics had a picture or graphic so you could as it was only accessed with a mouse put it on the graphic do a hot point for it you could do a few for other areas as well then wen you went into the app use the elements list go to the one you want and the mouse would go to that area then I could use it.


Best bet is give it a whirl and see if that does the trick. You can also move the mouse with arrow keys etc.


The link to the page where you can get it from is https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/goldenCursor.en.html


Gene nz

On 26/03/2020 11:18 am, Kenny wrote:
Hope everyone is doing well?


I'm a former user of JAWS. Find myself going back to use it for left mouse clicking on unlabeled graphics found on some application windows.


The NVDA review cursor only seems to read text displayed on the screen. Since the graphic isn't generating a separate nav object, I'm not able to use that NVDA reading function to see it either. Is there any way of getting NVDA to read the numeric window handle integer of an unlabeled graphic? Sort of how JAWS "Say All Graphics" mode does?


Just say something letting me know a graphic is there, so I can route the mouse p        ointer to that spot and left click on it.


Maybe there's an add-on available that gives NVDA that functionality?



Re: Scan mode in NVDA?

 

I should have said, New Issues are . . . in the last message.  You do have to activate the button for a new issue if you don't find one already available, and then you have to designate that issue as either a Bug Report or a Feature Request.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Scan mode in NVDA?

 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 06:50 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:
Do I file a pull request?
No.  Pull requests are for coders.

The GitHub Issues Page for NVDA is:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Issues are broken into two distinct types: bug reports and feature requests, with a separate button for each category.

Always search in the issues page first using a couple of keywords specific to your feature request, as there may very well already be one.  If one exists, you can add a comment to it as well as read what has gone on with it since it was originally created.

In fact, a search I did just now using "scan mode" for open issues returned this in the list:  new functionality give nvda function similar to nvarrador's scan mode

There might be others, as I didn't keep on looking through the list.  You (any you) really do not want to create a new feature request if one already exists, as it just makes more work for those managing these to merge them together.  One request, regardless of how many people want it, should have only one feature request associated with it.  Add a comment if you feel the need.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Scan mode in NVDA?

 

Hi,

Yes, registered with Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scan mode in NVDA?

 

Thanks! I'm not sure how I missed that add on because I get RSS alerts for any new thing NV Access puts out or the community add on puts out. Great add on! I still think the scan mode should be merged into NVDA core at some point. Is this add on registered with add on updater?


Re: Scan mode in NVDA?

 

Thanks! I'm not sure how I missed that add on because I get RSS alerts for any new thing NV Access puts out or the community add on puts out. Great add on! I still think the scan mode should be merged into NVDA core at some point. Is this add on registered with add on updater?


Re: Scan mode in NVDA?

 

Hi,

What if what you want is already possible:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Scan mode in NVDA?

 

First, where do we submit feature requests, not bugs. Do we submit a pull request?

The feature I find using most often, ironically, isn't even an NVDA feature. I use Narrator's scan mode to actually get to inaccessible controls and otherwise for various reasons. I get it that we have object navigation and the review cursor and otherwise, but how hard would it be to replace object review with scan mode?

If not replace, what about just adding it in, period? That being said,

where do I go to make this suggestion? Do I file a pull request? I thought those were only for bugs.


Scan mode in NVDA?

 

First, where do we submit feature requests, not bugs. Do we submit a pull request?

The feature I find using most often, ironically, isn't even an NVDA feature. I use Narrator's scan mode to actually get to inaccessible controls and otherwise for various reasons. I get it that we have object navigation and the review cursor and otherwise, but how hard would it be to replace object review with scan mode?

If not replace, what about just adding it in, period? That being said,

where do I go to make this suggestion? Do I file a pull request? I thought those were only for bugs.


Anyway of Getting NVDA 19.3.1 to Read Unlabeled Graphics?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

Hope everyone is doing well?


I'm a former user of JAWS. Find myself going back to use it for left mouse clicking on unlabeled graphics found on some application windows.


The NVDA review cursor only seems to read text displayed on the screen. Since the graphic isn't generating a separate nav object, I'm not able to use that NVDA reading function to see it either. Is there any way of getting NVDA to read the numeric window handle integer of an unlabeled graphic? Sort of how JAWS "Say All Graphics" mode does?


Just say something letting me know a graphic is there, so I can route the mouse p        ointer to that spot and left click on it.


Maybe there's an add-on available that gives NVDA that functionality?


Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials 20.04 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Resource Monitor and Windows 10 App Essentials 20.04 are now available. Some internal changes were made to Resource Monitor, including upgrading psutil dependency to 5.7.0. Windows 10 App Essentials 20.04 is a localization update ,and the temporary workaround for Word 365 issue (announcing “delete back word” when Control+Backspace is pressed) is now a permanent fix until NVDA itself includes it.

Important note for Windows 10 App Essentials users: support for Windows 10 Version 1903 (May 2019 Update) is slowly coming to a close – the add-on will end support for this feature update in July 2020. The good news is that Version 1909 (November 2019 Update) will be supported for a while, and you just need to edit at most four files to restore support for Version 1903 (please don’t do that unless you know what you are doing); this is because 1903 and 1909 are really the same Windows 10 release apart from visible changes.

 

As always, the new updates are available from community add-ons website and via Add-on Updater.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: problems with nvda

 

My understanding is that all add-ons shown on the NVDA Community Add-Ons Main Page are compatible with whatever the current version of NVDA happens to be at a given moment in time.

Quite a few of the ones on the Under Development Add-Ons Page are as well.

The Legacy Add-Ons Page includes ones only compatible with some former version or versions of NVDA.

Clipspeak is showing on the Community Add-Ons Main Page.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: problems with nvda

Arlene
 

What? I thought clip speak doesn’t work for the latest version of NVDA. I uninstalled it thinking it will not work.  I’ll try to get it back.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: March 25, 2020 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with nvda

 

Hi

 

 

if i remember right there was a add on called clip speak which would do

some thing strange like that.

 

 

I would go to copy a file but it would not copy it or some times it

would  then i could paste it.

 

 

But have nto used it for a long time so that bug might of been fixed.

 

 

I am sure it was that add on? if you have it disabled  it then try and

copy a file etc and see if it does the job if yes properly a few times

then re enable the add on and see it it mucks up again..

 

Then if that is the case it is that add on.

 

 

I think it might of been based off the fake clipboard add on?

 

 

Gene nz

 

 

If it does

 

On 26/03/2020 9:41 am, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

> Hi nvda gurus

> I trust you are well even in this era of corona.

> I have been facing challenges with nvda over the past few days.

> nvda does behave strangely.

> When I cut a file from one location to another, the file does not get cut.

> Even when I am sure that I did cut it, it remains in the original

> location as if I copied it.

> This is confusing to be told 'replace the file' which one is sure one

> has cut from the original location.

> What is wrong here?

> I am convinced that it is not Windows but nvda, because jaws does not do that.

> Your assistance is appreciated in this regard.

> Wally

>

 

 

 


Digit Number reader AddOn and circumstances in when it works?

Gerardo Corripio
 

What setting, or why when having the Digit numbers AddOn installed, for instance when in the Windows10 Update screen giving me the update version, it says the numbers inwhole inmillions, when I have it set for that numbers starting from 5digits, it should read a number at a time? What special circumstances should be numbersbe in, for the AddON to work properly? Thanks for any info.

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 


Re: problems with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


if i remember right there was a add on called clip speak which would do some thing strange like that.


I would go to copy a file but it would not copy it or some times it would  then i could paste it.


But have nto used it for a long time so that bug might of been fixed.


I am sure it was that add on? if you have it disabled  it then try and copy a file etc and see if it does the job if yes properly a few times then re enable the add on and see it it mucks up again..

Then if that is the case it is that add on.


I think it might of been based off the fake clipboard add on?


Gene nz


If it does

On 26/03/2020 9:41 am, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:
Hi nvda gurus

I trust you are well even in this era of corona.

I have been facing challenges with nvda over the past few days.

nvda does behave strangely.

When I cut a file from one location to another, the file does not get cut.

Even when I am sure that I did cut it, it remains in the original
location as if I copied it.

This is confusing to be told 'replace the file' which one is sure one
has cut from the original location.

What is wrong here?

I am convinced that it is not Windows but nvda, because jaws does not do that.

Your assistance is appreciated in this regard.
Wally


NVDA getting stuck in frames in Firefox

Greg Williams
 

Hi,

NVDA 2019.3 frequently gets stuck in frames in Firefox (I am using Firefox 67 currently). I seemed to be able to repeat it consistently on this page: https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-cowboy-museum-puts-security-guard-in-charge-of-social-media-during-closure-now-hes-going-viral/31925162?fbclid=IwAR2LVA2FN66nWA70ZclWMEaxhCHyyM3d4R4E3-uCtpljzi5raYJF_gbImz4

(any enjoyment from the actual page is a bonus). Sometimes refreshing content NVDA+f5 works, and sometimes NVDA+ctrl+space works, and sometimes I have to restart NVDA. Pressing tab moves through the elements on the page, but the arrow keys only read the frame content. I tried the new beta, but it also gets stuck. I am running Windows 10. Do other people experience this, or is there some quirk in my setup? Thanks.

Greg


problems with nvda

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Hi nvda gurus

I trust you are well even in this era of corona.

I have been facing challenges with nvda over the past few days.

nvda does behave strangely.

When I cut a file from one location to another, the file does not get cut.

Even when I am sure that I did cut it, it remains in the original
location as if I copied it.

This is confusing to be told 'replace the file' which one is sure one
has cut from the original location.

What is wrong here?

I am convinced that it is not Windows but nvda, because jaws does not do that.

Your assistance is appreciated in this regard.
Wally


Re: NVDA not announcing left/right panel in 64-bit Total Commander

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

That’s a known issue, if you like you can try out my addon for Total Commander which fixes that and adds some more features:

https://github.com/Novalis7747/totalcmd-enhanced/raw/master/totalcmd-0.6.3.nvda-addon

 

cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Petr Rehák
Sent: Mittwoch, 25. März 2020 19:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not announcing left/right panel in 64-bit Total Commander

 

Hi,

 

With 64-bit Total Commander NVDA is not reporting which panel is left/right on pressing TAB. I don’t know if it is trained on the listbox window class name but if so, I can report that the 64-bit Total Commander is built with a different GUI toolkit and the listbox has the class name „LCLListBox“.

 

Best regards,

 

Petr Řehák

 

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