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locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

Hareth
 

Hi Joseph,
Don't waste your time. People was advising her for years now , getting
Same respond,
She just comes back with the same, and emphasize more and more.

On 3/26/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hi,
I told the community, but let me remind you again: NO, NO, NO! Yes, I'm
angry, and yes, I mean it: please do not ask the community to email you
about feature backports, as that will not happen. Sorry - case closed.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 4:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and
Windows XP support requests: no more, period

hi,
thanks for your message.
for several reasons, nvda 2017.3 is the best version and even 2017.2 works
very well, and they work very perfect for my need.
but, two or three items which are included in newer versions of nvda, i wish
to backported to nvda 2017.3, not only for myself, but for the benefit of
all users of this versions like me!
if someone wants to help me in this regard, please email me!
God bless you everyone!

On 3/24/20, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:
Hi, Zahra, why you don’t update your operating system and the NVDA to
the latest versions to solve all your compatibility problems instead
of asking support of the old software, you should use the new and
fresh peace of software to avoid all the security risks

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 3:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons
andWindows XP support requests: no more, period

hi joseph.
as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newer
versions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda on
xp.
and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing or
unresponsiveness in any version of windows!
my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixes
which i am sure benefits everyone.

On 3/23/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,



First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone
listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including
public health officials recommending folks to exercise social
distancing for a while.
Even
if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands,
practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the
pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a
global movement, please support each other.



Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests
about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included
making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility
issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of
NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.



At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows
XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows
releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to
NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make
the following personal announcement:



Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the
following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry,
no more, period."
These include:



* Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and
Server 2008
* Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you
knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
* Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA
2017.3
* Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows
XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users



Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to
ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many
features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for
various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error
announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader
Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly
with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer
recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad
changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and
multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors
have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'm
either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them
support NVDA
2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.



My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that
you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an
individual developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf
of other developers - others have their own policies regarding
support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for
NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.



I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I
wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support,
and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and
software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I
felt it is time to make a bold statement and say "no" to Windows XP
support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my
add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn't announce
a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the
reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors
to Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is an individual
developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large,
knowing that others will make statements on their own.



Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







Re: Bluetooth hearing aid lag on Windows 10 with NVDA.

Cordelia Scharpf
 

I am not familiar with this kind of setup, but might unpairing and re-pairing do the trick? Do you have other devices connected (using Bluetooth) to your PC, e.g., a Braille display?

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 1:54 PM
To: NVDA Mailing Group
Subject: [nvda] Bluetooth hearing aid lag on Windows 10 with NVDA.

 

Hello everyone,

 

I am currently am trying out a new hearing aid called the phonak Marvel. It has Bluetooth and I can connect this to my iPhone, Mac, and Windows 10. however, when i am connected to Windows 10 with NVDA, I have noticed that it have really really bad lag when the screenreader speaks. All first character or word is chopped off. Typing is almost impossible due to it is not spoken. It seems like as soon the TTS stop speaking, it goes into standby. However, my IPhone and mac does not have this problem. I have tried the addon for Bluetooth to stay connected, and I have not noticed a difference.

 

have anyone else have this issue too?

 

Thanks guys!

Daniel Hawkins

Check out my website: iabilityi.com

 

 

 

 


Bluetooth hearing aid lag on Windows 10 with NVDA.

Daniel Hawkins
 

Hello everyone,

I am currently am trying out a new hearing aid called the phonak Marvel. It has Bluetooth and I can connect this to my iPhone, Mac, and Windows 10. however, when i am connected to Windows 10 with NVDA, I have noticed that it have really really bad lag when the screenreader speaks. All first character or word is chopped off. Typing is almost impossible due to it is not spoken. It seems like as soon the TTS stop speaking, it goes into standby. However, my IPhone and mac does not have this problem. I have tried the addon for Bluetooth to stay connected, and I have not noticed a difference.

have anyone else have this issue too?

Thanks guys!
Daniel Hawkins
Check out my website: iabilityi.com





locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

Hi,
I told the community, but let me remind you again: NO, NO, NO! Yes, I'm angry, and yes, I mean it: please do not ask the community to email you about feature backports, as that will not happen. Sorry - case closed.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 4:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

hi,
thanks for your message.
for several reasons, nvda 2017.3 is the best version and even 2017.2 works very well, and they work very perfect for my need.
but, two or three items which are included in newer versions of nvda, i wish to backported to nvda 2017.3, not only for myself, but for the benefit of all users of this versions like me!
if someone wants to help me in this regard, please email me!
God bless you everyone!

On 3/24/20, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:
Hi, Zahra, why you don’t update your operating system and the NVDA to
the latest versions to solve all your compatibility problems instead
of asking support of the old software, you should use the new and
fresh peace of software to avoid all the security risks

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 3:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons
andWindows XP support requests: no more, period

hi joseph.
as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newer
versions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda on
xp.
and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing or
unresponsiveness in any version of windows!
my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixes
which i am sure benefits everyone.

On 3/23/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,



First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone
listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including
public health officials recommending folks to exercise social
distancing for a while.
Even
if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands,
practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the
pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a
global movement, please support each other.



Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests
about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included
making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility
issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of
NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.



At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows
XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows
releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to
NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make
the following personal announcement:



Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the
following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry,
no more, period."
These include:



* Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and
Server 2008
* Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you
knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
* Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA
2017.3
* Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows
XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users



Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to
ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many
features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for
various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error
announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader
Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly
with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer
recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad
changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and
multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors
have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'm
either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them
support NVDA
2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.



My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that
you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an
individual developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf
of other developers - others have their own policies regarding
support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for
NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.



I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I
wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support,
and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and
software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I
felt it is time to make a bold statement and say "no" to Windows XP
support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my
add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn't announce
a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the
reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors
to Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is an individual
developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large,
knowing that others will make statements on their own.



Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: NVDA does not read thunderbird 68.6.0 headers of messages

enes sarıbaş
 

However, the list of features in the recommend addon doesn't seem to include a headers fix.

On 3/26/2020 6:25 AM, enes sarıbaş via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi Brian,

My apologies.  I didn't check the archives, as I incorrectly assumed this wouldn't be something many would notice.

On 3/25/2020 9:43 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Just discussed at some length, three days ago, in topic,  Value of headers not readable in Thunderbird.     

Searching the NVDA Group Archive

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: NVDA does not read thunderbird 68.6.0 headers of messages

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi Brian,

My apologies.  I didn't check the archives, as I incorrectly assumed this wouldn't be something many would notice.

On 3/25/2020 9:43 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Just discussed at some length, three days ago, in topic,  Value of headers not readable in Thunderbird.     

Searching the NVDA Group Archive

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


locked Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period

 

hi,
thanks for your message.
for several reasons, nvda 2017.3 is the best version and even 2017.2
works very well, and they work very perfect for my need.
but, two or three items which are included in newer versions of nvda,
i wish to backported to nvda 2017.3, not only for myself, but for the
benefit of all users of this versions like me!
if someone wants to help me in this regard, please email me!
God bless you everyone!

On 3/24/20, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:
Hi, Zahra, why you don’t update your operating system and the NVDA to the
latest versions to solve all your compatibility problems instead of asking
support of the old software, you should use the new and fresh peace of
software to avoid all the security risks

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 3:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons
andWindows XP support requests: no more, period

hi joseph.
as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newer
versions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda on
xp.
and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing or
unresponsiveness in any version of windows!
my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixes
which i am sure benefits everyone.

On 3/23/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,



First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen
to
advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health
officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while.
Even
if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice
social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and
community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement,
please
support each other.



Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about
NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making
add-ons
compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting
newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last
version
compatible with Windows XP.



At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP,
with
many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as
an
individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project,
I
would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:



Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the
following
for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry, no more,
period."
These include:



* Making add-ons compatible with Windows XP, Server 2003, Vista, and
Server 2008
* Fixing compatibility issues and non-working add-ons after you
knowingly install newer add-on releases on NVDA 2017.3 or earlier
* Backporting features and bug fixes from newer NVDA releases to NVDA
2017.3
* Maintaining a long-term support version of NVDA for Windows
XP/Server 2003/Vista/Server 2008 users



Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to ask
NV
Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features
introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various
reasons,
including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for
example),
incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example),
features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for
example),
support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express,
for
example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor
and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors
have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'm
either
maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA
2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.



My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you
can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an
individual
developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf of other
developers - others have their own policies regarding support for Windows
XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last
version
compatible with Windows XP.



I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted
folks
to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand
that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases
(including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a
bold statement and say "no" to Windows XP support. In the past, I did
note
on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support
Windows
XP, but didn't announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks
will
understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close
the
doors to Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is an
individual
developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing
that
others will make statements on their own.



Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: NVDA getting stuck in frames in Firefox

 

hi.
i am not sure, because currently i have firefox 45 on my system.
and, nvda 2017.3 is the best version of nvda for me!
even nvda 2017.2 is very great, and has everythings that i need.
but i guess that your issue maybe related to one of these issues on github.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10707
or,
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/9672

On 3/26/20, Greg Williams <greg.williams.1978@...> wrote:
Hi,

NVDA 2019.3 frequently gets stuck in frames in Firefox (I am using
Firefox 67 currently). I seemed to be able to repeat it consistently on
this page:
https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-cowboy-museum-puts-security-guard-in-charge-of-social-media-during-closure-now-hes-going-viral/31925162?fbclid=IwAR2LVA2FN66nWA70ZclWMEaxhCHyyM3d4R4E3-uCtpljzi5raYJF_gbImz4

(any enjoyment from the actual page is a bonus). Sometimes refreshing
content NVDA+f5 works, and sometimes NVDA+ctrl+space works, and
sometimes I have to restart NVDA. Pressing tab moves through the
elements on the page, but the arrow keys only read the frame content. I
tried the new beta, but it also gets stuck. I am running Windows 10. Do
other people experience this, or is there some quirk in my setup? Thanks.

Greg





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: NVDA getting stuck in frames in Firefox

Jacob Kruger
 

What I did notive when visiting that page, using firefox 74, was that it firstly asked for me for permission to know my location, and then to show notifications - both os those might keep hold of focus until dismissed, and, then it seemed to have opened a form of in-page dialogue asking me to subscribe to a corona newsletter, but, when I activated the close button, then it returned to the article mentioned in the page title.


I do have the mozilla apps add-on installed here, and am running NVDA 2020.1 beta 1, if relevant, but, what mentioned above might interfere with initial interaction?


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-03-25 10:43 PM, Greg Williams wrote:
Hi,

NVDA 2019.3 frequently gets stuck in frames in Firefox (I am using Firefox 67 currently). I seemed to be able to repeat it consistently on this page: https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-cowboy-museum-puts-security-guard-in-charge-of-social-media-during-closure-now-hes-going-viral/31925162?fbclid=IwAR2LVA2FN66nWA70ZclWMEaxhCHyyM3d4R4E3-uCtpljzi5raYJF_gbImz4

(any enjoyment from the actual page is a bonus). Sometimes refreshing content NVDA+f5 works, and sometimes NVDA+ctrl+space works, and sometimes I have to restart NVDA. Pressing tab moves through the elements on the page, but the arrow keys only read the frame content. I tried the new beta, but it also gets stuck. I am running Windows 10. Do other people experience this, or is there some quirk in my setup? Thanks.

Greg




Re: question regard review cursor.

Quentin Christensen
 

You're doing great with your English Zahra :)


On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:45 PM zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi quentin.
i downloaded sample audio of your basic training for nvda, and i
really loved it!
i thought that its difficult for me to understand english audio books,
but i listened half of the mp3 files, and thanks God, could understand
most of sentences very easy!

On 3/26/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> The Basic Training for NVDA has an entire chapter on the review cursor,
> followed by one on object navigation (the two concepts go hand in hand).
> As it happens, the chapter on the review cursor is the one which is
> available for free to give you a taste of what the whole module is like.
> You can download it here:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/ (That's the
> link to the shop to purchase the module, look for the link for the sample
> chapter).  The module is also available in audio:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-downloadable-audio/
> (and
> there is a sample of the audio as well) and also in Braille:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-braille-hard-copy/
> (no
> sample for the Braille as it is hardcopy shipped to you, not downloadable
> like the others).
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:36 PM Meet modi <meetmodi2359@...> wrote:
>
>> hello friends,
>> I wont to know about review cursor.
>> I look forward to user guide.
>> In user guide i am  confuse.
>>
>> i saw in user guide.
>> screen review ,text review ETC but i cant find about review cursor.
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: question regard review cursor.

 

hi quentin.
i downloaded sample audio of your basic training for nvda, and i
really loved it!
i thought that its difficult for me to understand english audio books,
but i listened half of the mp3 files, and thanks God, could understand
most of sentences very easy!

On 3/26/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
The Basic Training for NVDA has an entire chapter on the review cursor,
followed by one on object navigation (the two concepts go hand in hand).
As it happens, the chapter on the review cursor is the one which is
available for free to give you a taste of what the whole module is like.
You can download it here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/ (That's the
link to the shop to purchase the module, look for the link for the sample
chapter). The module is also available in audio:
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-downloadable-audio/
(and
there is a sample of the audio as well) and also in Braille:
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-braille-hard-copy/
(no
sample for the Braille as it is hardcopy shipped to you, not downloadable
like the others).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:36 PM Meet modi <meetmodi2359@...> wrote:

hello friends,
I wont to know about review cursor.
I look forward to user guide.
In user guide i am confuse.

i saw in user guide.
screen review ,text review ETC but i cant find about review cursor.
Thanks in advance


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: question regard review cursor.

Quentin Christensen
 

The Basic Training for NVDA has an entire chapter on the review cursor, followed by one on object navigation (the two concepts go hand in hand).  As it happens, the chapter on the review cursor is the one which is available for free to give you a taste of what the whole module is like.  You can download it here:  https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/ (That's the link to the shop to purchase the module, look for the link for the sample chapter).  The module is also available in audio: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-downloadable-audio/ (and there is a sample of the audio as well) and also in Braille:  https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-braille-hard-copy/ (no sample for the Braille as it is hardcopy shipped to you, not downloadable like the others).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:36 PM Meet modi <meetmodi2359@...> wrote:
hello friends,
I wont to know about review cursor.
I look forward to user guide.
In user guide i am  confuse.

i saw in user guide.
screen review ,text review ETC but i cant find about review cursor.
Thanks in advance 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


question regard review cursor.

Meet modi
 

hello friends,
I wont to know about review cursor.
I look forward to user guide.
In user guide i am  confuse.

i saw in user guide.
screen review ,text review ETC but i cant find about review cursor.
Thanks in advance 


Re: TWBlue sound pack- solved

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, I just solved my questions. Just ignore the mail.

On 3/26/2020 12:32 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, just like to ask how to change the sounds from TWBlue?
I am currently running new version
and liking to use other sound to test. I appreciate if you could give me advice or steps to do it. Thanks a lot.


TWBlue sound pack

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, just like to ask how to change the sounds from TWBlue?
I am currently running new version
and liking to use other sound to test. I appreciate if you could give me advice or steps to do it. Thanks a lot.


Re: Anyway of Getting NVDA 19.3.1 to Read Unlabeled Graphics?

Kenny
 

Thanks. I'll take a look at it.

On 3/25/2020 7:28 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


I think the golden cursor does some thing like that. I know it can do hot points  like in a scanner program I had the graphics had a picture or graphic so you could as it was only accessed with a mouse put it on the graphic do a hot point for it you could do a few for other areas as well then wen you went into the app use the elements list go to the one you want and the mouse would go to that area then I could use it.


Best bet is give it a whirl and see if that does the trick. You can also move the mouse with arrow keys etc.


The link to the page where you can get it from is https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/goldenCursor.en.html


Gene nz


On 26/03/2020 11:18 am, Kenny wrote:
Hope everyone is doing well?


I'm a former user of JAWS. Find myself going back to use it for left mouse clicking on unlabeled graphics found on some application windows.


The NVDA review cursor only seems to read text displayed on the screen. Since the graphic isn't generating a separate nav object, I'm not able to use that NVDA reading function to see it either. Is there any way of getting NVDA to read the numeric window handle integer of an unlabeled graphic? Sort of how JAWS "Say All Graphics" mode does?


Just say something letting me know a graphic is there, so I can route the mouse p        ointer to that spot and left click on it.


Maybe there's an add-on available that gives NVDA that functionality?




Re: Q Read alternative

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi david


could I link to those files in a page I am putting together?


I was not aware of them until you posted them.


If I can then I will also put it into a page where they can get it from etc etc so it makes it easier for people to find.


Gene nz


On 23/03/2020 2:56 am, David Griffith wrote:

OK

My actual Podcasts on Speak On are being distributed by Talking Computers on a monthly basis and will appear on the Speak On website a month later but you can find all the recordings below on SendSpace links which will hopefully not be an issue. If there is an issue then I will try and put them also on Open  drive.

 

The main Speak On app is being continuously maintained by Isaac the Program developer though he has no intentions to do major revisions of the app.

 

The series is not complete as there will be further Podcasts on the RNIB Daisy magazine Service, using the Podcasts app and the Music app to follow.

I actually intend to replace and re-record the eBook Podcasts as half - way through the volume increases which is a little distracting.

 

Speak On Resources

You can download Speak On media Suite from

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 

 

Speak On Media Podcast

 

01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly voice and introduces you to the range of apps available

by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu

 

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

 

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books and other content into

Speak On Media.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt

 

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3

This Podcast covers loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume

of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q

 

 

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On

This covers.

-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.

-changing the Reading Voice.

- Navigation levels available in the eBook.

- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.

-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.

- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback on the fly.

- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.

- Saving Sections of the book as text files.

- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2

 

 

05 Speak On and Internet Radio

This Podcast covers

- Using a free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.

- Using the optional VI Radio app.

- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio app.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8

 

 

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

 

 

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

 

This Podcasts covers downloading a daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service and playing it in Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie

 

 

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.

 

This Podcasts covers.

1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.

Installing the task and logging into the eText service.

Loading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.

Setting up favourite papers.

Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7

 

 

08 Speak On and the RNIB magazine Service

 

As unfortunately the RNIB have broken links to some of the Magazines and not updated information to Speak ON, there is a need in some cases to download

and import Magazines manually . This Podcasts describes this workaround and explains why you would still want to use Speak On to read your magazines in

this use case.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da

 

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith via Groups.Io
Sent: 22 March 2020 13:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

It is  not a media player rather than a book reader but both and a lot lot more.

 

I will send a list of my Podcasts on it in a minute,

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Kingett
Sent: 22 March 2020 01:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

 

The only thing I could find about speak on is the below website? The last update was 2016. Is there a newer version I'm missing? It seems like it's a media player rather than a book reader so if anybody has an updated link, put it in the thread.

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html

 


Re: problems with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Brian


I have been looking at the dates and if they are old dates those ones seem not to work  unless it has a much later date.


for example tip of the day shows on the main part of the add on website and also under the under development but will not work with nvda 2019.3


Gene nz


Gene nz


On 26/03/2020 11:07 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
My understanding is that all add-ons shown on the NVDA Community Add-Ons Main Page are compatible with whatever the current version of NVDA happens to be at a given moment in time.

Quite a few of the ones on the Under Development Add-Ons Page are as well.

The Legacy Add-Ons Page includes ones only compatible with some former version or versions of NVDA.

Clipspeak is showing on the Community Add-Ons Main Page.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: problems with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


It might not of been updated to work with the latest version of nvda. I just remember a problem a while back like that he mentioned doing that and am pretty sure it was that add on. Some people have not come up to the latest version of nvda yet because some of there add ons will not work with it.


Gene nz


On 26/03/2020 11:00 am, Arlene wrote:

What? I thought clip speak doesn’t work for the latest version of NVDA. I uninstalled it thinking it will not work.  I’ll try to get it back.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: March 25, 2020 2:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with nvda

 

Hi

 

 

if i remember right there was a add on called clip speak which would do

some thing strange like that.

 

 

I would go to copy a file but it would not copy it or some times it

would  then i could paste it.

 

 

But have nto used it for a long time so that bug might of been fixed.

 

 

I am sure it was that add on? if you have it disabled  it then try and

copy a file etc and see if it does the job if yes properly a few times

then re enable the add on and see it it mucks up again..

 

Then if that is the case it is that add on.

 

 

I think it might of been based off the fake clipboard add on?

 

 

Gene nz

 

 

If it does

 

On 26/03/2020 9:41 am, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

> Hi nvda gurus

> I trust you are well even in this era of corona.

> I have been facing challenges with nvda over the past few days.

> nvda does behave strangely.

> When I cut a file from one location to another, the file does not get cut.

> Even when I am sure that I did cut it, it remains in the original

> location as if I copied it.

> This is confusing to be told 'replace the file' which one is sure one

> has cut from the original location.

> What is wrong here?

> I am convinced that it is not Windows but nvda, because jaws does not do that.

> Your assistance is appreciated in this regard.

> Wally

>

 

 

 


Re: Anyway of Getting NVDA 19.3.1 to Read Unlabeled Graphics?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I think the golden cursor does some thing like that. I know it can do hot points  like in a scanner program I had the graphics had a picture or graphic so you could as it was only accessed with a mouse put it on the graphic do a hot point for it you could do a few for other areas as well then wen you went into the app use the elements list go to the one you want and the mouse would go to that area then I could use it.


Best bet is give it a whirl and see if that does the trick. You can also move the mouse with arrow keys etc.


The link to the page where you can get it from is https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/goldenCursor.en.html


Gene nz

On 26/03/2020 11:18 am, Kenny wrote:
Hope everyone is doing well?


I'm a former user of JAWS. Find myself going back to use it for left mouse clicking on unlabeled graphics found on some application windows.


The NVDA review cursor only seems to read text displayed on the screen. Since the graphic isn't generating a separate nav object, I'm not able to use that NVDA reading function to see it either. Is there any way of getting NVDA to read the numeric window handle integer of an unlabeled graphic? Sort of how JAWS "Say All Graphics" mode does?


Just say something letting me know a graphic is there, so I can route the mouse p        ointer to that spot and left click on it.


Maybe there's an add-on available that gives NVDA that functionality?