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Re: Windows Training for free, for anyone who is looking for something to do during this time.

Martin O'Sullivan
 

The times are given in GMT, London, Dublin time.


On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 02:40, iram shabbir <iram.shabbir83@...> wrote:
dear sir i want to join the classes but i do not know how to adjest the time according to your time zone. regards
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows Training for free, for anyone who is looking for something to do during this time.

Unfortunately, The classes will not be recorded.


The next class is tonight.

Here is some free training for people who are stuck at home   If you want to share it on your facebook page, or email list.

Kathy Ann Murtha offers daily Windows 10 lessons, from 18 March through 18 April 2020 via Zoom at 19:30 GMT. The site lists the lesson topics for each day. Lessons are an hour long with a half-hour for instruction and a half-hour for discussion:


https://zoom.us/j/535235045

More information on the classes is here http://www.blind.training/lunch-break-windows-10-training-course/

March 27 – WordPad Display and Ribbons
March 30 – Windows Text Navigation, Cursor Placement, Delete Text
March 31 – Text Selection, Cut, Copy, Paste, Delete and Undo
April 1 – WordPad Backstage and the Save As dialog
April 2 – Font Attributes and Document Formatting
April 3 – Bullet and Numbered Lists
April 6 – File Explorer Introduction, Configure File Explorer, Views and Navigating File Explorer
April 7 – Select and organize File Explorer Documents
April 8 – File Explorer Instant Search and the Search Ribbon
April 9 – File Explorer Address Bar, Quick Access and Columns
April 10 – Set Default Applications and Open Documents in Alternative Applications
April 13 – The Run Dialog
April 14 – Windows Desktop Shortcuts and Icon Properties
April 15 – Windows SendTo
April 16 – The Recycle Bin
April 17 – Uninstall or Repair Applications
April 18 – Virtual Desktops


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Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

Hugin
 

Thanks, Shaun. I was thinking about the similarities in the computers, who set them up etc. and there are none except the password for log on was disabled so we can just use the computer without having to do that. It shouldn't matter but who knows. I doubt it does. Strange tech follows us around that even baffles people when they see it in person. LOL
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

 

Hi,

So, you want to talk to an NVDA programmer? No need to write to us directly – I am an NVDA programmer/code contributor.

Based on the discussion I’m seeing in front of me, we need to clarify a few things before we continue:

  • NVDA startup options: there are two options found under NVDA Settings/General category. The first one named “Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows” will ask NVDA to come up when you log into Windows. The second option named “Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)" Will ask NVDA to come up in User Account Control, logon window and other secure screens. The option you should be looking at is the second one, not the first one.
  • Is the secure screen copy of NVDA a separate NVDA version: yes and no. When you press Control+Alt+Delete to invoke Windows sign-in dialog or User Account Control shows up, the same NVDA executable will run but will pull in settings from system configuration. In short, the regular NVDA will be suspended as long as a secure screen is up (describing how this is possible will require a detailed discussion of certain NVDA and Windows internals; I’ll answer it if you all want me to describe it).

 

In order to better diagnose this, I and other developers will need detailed steps as to how to reproduce this, if it is reproducible at all. If the problem is reproducible (say, you exit NVDA, someone uses something, and NVDA somehow starts up without you doing anything), then it might be possible to do some more investigations (including NVDA Remote session). Once we know that the problem is reproducible, the next course of action is looking at add-ons you’ve got and disabling add-ons to see if that makes a difference. Failing that, reading a debug log is in order, followed by non-destructive and/or destructive settings reset (non-destructive: press Control+NvDA+R three times, use NVDA for a while, then press Control+NVDA+R once to reload settings; destructive: delete NVDA settings file).

 

On the other hand, if the problem isn’t reproducible or inconsistent as to when it occurs, there’s really nothing I and other NVDA Developers can do except to say that this issue is unique to your system. IN the past, users contacted NVDA developers to say that they are experiencing problems, which were later classified as unique to a situation when we failed to reproduce problems reliably.

 

As much as I wish to provide a troubleshooting session via Skype and NVDA Remote add-on (for free), there are other things I need to prioritize – I’m in college, so school takes priority. But if it does come down to providing second or third level technical support alongside NV Access people (NV Access does offer paid tech support, by the way), I’ll think about what we can do.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hugin
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 10:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

 

Hi Brian,Gene/ and list

 

I do not have jaws and will not use jaws and as Brian said won't fix the issue really in a logical way but I appreciate the thought. I am asking if anyone has am nvda contact for programmers or anyone else I an ask about this. Because we've installed it before, never an issue. Not on windows 10, though. Not sure what made you think I had the same software on all computers, Brian, I am sorry if I indicated as much as it isn't the case. Also my sister's comp, comp number 4 doing this is not in my home. She is however in my city and she jokingly suggests that it's a *incert name of our city* problem and no one will understand. HAHA. Really though I hope we're just doing something wrong though I don't see what as again have used nvda for years without this happening. Each installation of windows 10 we have came from different people, the computers came from different places. My husband installed two one of ours, and my sister's, but those computers are entirely different, different models, one is a desk and one a lap top etc. But other 2 are having the same issue, one was done by Boundless, and one by a local computer guy. Again starting to feel it's just and our paranormal weirdness though why the ghoulies care about nvda is beyond me.

I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

 

Well there are 2 options.
1, start nvda at the windows logon screen.
This is usefull if you have more than 1 account, keep this off on a
public computer if if you don't want nvda starting at login.
Note, its going to yell out secure screens at you reguardless but
there is usually a delay of a few seconds.
Just hit alty when you hear the prompt and its not a problem.
You want the option that says start nvda after windows login or
something like it and it will work.
The keyword is after here and its what I use.

On 31/03/2020, Hugin <blaisegellert@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Brian,Gene/ and list

I do not have jaws and will not use jaws and as Brian said won't fix the
issue really in a logical way but I appreciate the thought. I am asking if
anyone has am nvda contact for programmers or anyone else I an ask about
this. Because we've installed it before, never an issue. Not on windows 10,
though. Not sure what made you think I had the same software on all
computers, Brian, I am sorry if I indicated as much as it isn't the case.
Also my sister's comp, comp number 4 doing this is not in my home. She is
however in my city and she jokingly suggests that it's a *incert name of our
city* problem and no one will understand. HAHA. Really though I hope we're
just doing something wrong though I don't see what as again have used nvda
for years without this happening. Each installation of windows 10 we have
came from different people, the computers came from different places. My
husband installed two one of ours, and my sister's, but those computers are
entirely different, different models, one is a desk and one a lap top etc.
But other 2 are having the same issue, one was done by Boundless, and one by
a local computer guy. Again starting to feel it's just and our paranormal
weirdness though why the ghoulies care about nvda is beyond me.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.




Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

Hugin
 


Hi Brian,Gene/ and list
 
I do not have jaws and will not use jaws and as Brian said won't fix the issue really in a logical way but I appreciate the thought. I am asking if anyone has am nvda contact for programmers or anyone else I an ask about this. Because we've installed it before, never an issue. Not on windows 10, though. Not sure what made you think I had the same software on all computers, Brian, I am sorry if I indicated as much as it isn't the case. Also my sister's comp, comp number 4 doing this is not in my home. She is however in my city and she jokingly suggests that it's a *incert name of our city* problem and no one will understand. HAHA. Really though I hope we're just doing something wrong though I don't see what as again have used nvda for years without this happening. Each installation of windows 10 we have came from different people, the computers came from different places. My husband installed two one of ours, and my sister's, but those computers are entirely different, different models, one is a desk and one a lap top etc. But other 2 are having the same issue, one was done by Boundless, and one by a local computer guy. Again starting to feel it's just and our paranormal weirdness though why the ghoulies care about nvda is beyond me.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

Hugin
 

I appreciate that Gene and we'll try it. I wish we could figure out what's happening, though. 3 of our computers and my sister's as well all windows 10. We tried a reinstall too, did that first ages back actually and no go. I tell people paranormal things happen to our tech stuff all the time but my sisters too? I wanted to think it wasn't spooky stuff but now I have to wonder.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


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I have not been able to find contact information for the developer of this adddon. If you can help please do.
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If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!


Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

Gene
 

In case my previous answer wasn't clear, I'll add that in a previous
post, the person presenting the problem stated that the only way
he/she found to stop the behavior was to turn off run at boot up.
Therefore, I proposed the work around I did.

Gene


Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

Gene
 

It isn't intended to be a solution. its a work around, allowing the
sighted person to use the computers without NVDA starting whenever
another program is started. It would also allow the blind person to
log in and then manually run NVDA. I am skeptical that a solution
will be found and I think this is a good work around.

Gene

On 3/30/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 07:25 PM, Gene wrote:


Or, if Narrator can run on the login screen, that would be something else
you could use.
I can, but that's not likely to solve what appears to be the core problem:
NVDA coming back on as programs are opened. This is extremely atypical
behavior, as you well know.

Something else is afoot here, and it appears to be afoot on several
computers in the same household that have likely had a great deal of the
same software installed across them.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna




NVDA and office

Chris Shook
 

Hi,
Has anyone had an issue with NVDA where it will not read a misspelled word or the sentence containing a misspelled word in spell check?
I'm running Office 2016 and I'm having that issue.
Please help.
Thanks in advance
Chris


Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

 
Edited

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 07:25 PM, Gene wrote:
Or, if Narrator can run on the login screen, that would be something else you could use.
It can, but that's not likely to solve what appears to be the core problem:  NVDA coming back on as programs are opened.  This is extremely atypical behavior, as you well know.

Something else is afoot here, and it appears to be afoot on several computers in the same household that have likely had a great deal of the same software installed across them.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

Gene
 

I suggest installing JAWS and having it run at startup and not having
NVDA do so. A very good example of where having more than one
screen-reader is very useful. Or, if Narrator can run on the login
screen, that would be something else you could use.

Gene

On 3/30/20, Hugin <blaisegellert@gmail.com> wrote:
I disabled use nvda on and it didn't work the only thing that worked was to

disable start nvda with windows but then it won't start up automatically
when the computer does as I need it to. So either no start at all without me

having to do it or it starts all the time when any other program does like
it's start up when I don't want it to and again this never happened before
windows 10 and now it's 3 computers.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.





Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

 

When you know there are thousands, nay, millions who are not having this issue it clearly points to something idiosyncratic to your computers, and likely caused secondary to something you've done.  That's not a criticism nor an accusation, but a fact.

I doubt it's due to Windows 10, per se, but it could be secondary to some slight corruption in your installations.  See my tutorial, Britechguy’s Standard Advice Regarding Windows 10 Issues and Their Repair, and shoot straight to the numbered step, one, and try the SFC/DISM pair on one of your machines and see if that fixes the issue.  Then if it doesn't, try the repair install.

For myself, I would uninstall NVDA first before doing this if you have sighted assistance that makes this possible.  Then reinstall it after either the SFC/DISM pair reports all is well or you've done a repair install. 

And if you haven't tried an NVDA uninstall, system Restart, and NVDA reinstall I would do that prior to doing any of the things I've recommended above, but I am presuming you have done this already.

What you have occurring is uncharacteristic and I have not seen anyone report it prior to yourself.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: When nvda keeps turning itself on any time another program opens or shuts

Hugin
 

I disabled use nvda on and it didn't work the only thing that worked was to disable start nvda with windows but then it won't start up automatically when the computer does as I need it to. So either no start at all without me having to do it or it starts all the time when any other program does like it's start up when I don't want it to and again this never happened before windows 10 and now it's 3 computers.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: wordCount 2.0 released.

Mallard
 

Oh, thanks!


I'll need this to count words when I write essays for my English courses, and to count words in my students' writing tasks when preparing for English exams....


Very welcome add-on at this time!


Ciao,

Ollie

On 29/03/2020 00:32, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


We announce the release of version 2.0 of our add-on wordCount!


*** Compatibility: NVDA 2019.3 to 2020.1

*** Provisional link for download: https://github.com/ruifontes/wordCount/releases/download/2.0/wordCount-2.0.nvda-addon


This addon announces the number of words, characters, paragraphs and lines of the selected text by pressing Control+Shift+F12.
It also create a ordered list of the words used and allow to display the lines containing a word.

In any text editor, or in a virtual document, for example in a web browser, PDF, email body, etc., select the desired text using the usual text selection commands and press Control+Shift+f12.

To get a list of words used, just press Control+Shift+f11.

This commands can be modified in the "Input gestures" dialog in the "Text editing" section.

Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team

Tiflotecnia, Lda.




Re: New add-on, frequentText

Mallard
 

Wow guys!


Many thanks!


I'll have great use for this one!


Ciao,

Ollie

On 30/03/2020 19:37, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


We present a new add-on...


Frequent text
Informations
• Authors: Rui Fontes and Ângelo Abrantes, based on work of Marcos António de Oliveira
• Updated in 27/03/2020
• Download stable version
• <https://github.com/ruifontes/frequentText/releases/download/1.0/frequentText-1.0.nvda-addon> Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and posteriors
Presentation
This add-on provides a way to quickly insert blocks of text you type frequently in documents you write.
Usage
To start using this add-on you will need to fill the blocks of text you want to use. For that, first press Windows+f12. It will be displayed a dialog where you can press Tab to access the "Add" button. Activate it to create a new block. In the first dialog, type the name of the block and press Enter or activate the "Ok" button. It will present a dialog to type the block of text. Enter the lines you want, and when done, press Tab and activate the "Ok" button.
To paste the block of text in an edit field, just select the block and press Enter.
In the add-on dialog box you also can rename, change the contents or delete the block of text.


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team



Re: New add-on, frequentText

Gerardo Corripio
 

You guys rock! Being able to try Jaws for a few months, one realy values all that NVDA and you guys who develop AddOns do to better daily our efficiency! I just couldn’t resist! Keep up the great work! And definitely looking forward to trying out the AddOn, and spreading the word among the Spanish-speaking NVDA community on Whatsap, for which I’m the creator of the NVDA para Todos Whatsapp group. Thanks for sharing!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 30 mar 2020, a la(s) 11:37 a.m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:



Hello!


We present a new add-on...


Frequent text
Informations
• Authors: Rui Fontes and Ângelo Abrantes, based on work of Marcos António de Oliveira
• Updated in 27/03/2020
• Download stable version
Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and posteriors
Presentation
This add-on provides a way to quickly insert blocks of text you type frequently in documents you write.
Usage
To start using this add-on you will need to fill the blocks of text you want to use. For that, first press Windows+f12. It will be displayed a dialog where you can press Tab to access the "Add" button. Activate it to create a new block. In the first dialog, type the name of the block and press Enter or activate the "Ok" button. It will present a dialog to type the block of text. Enter the lines you want, and when done, press Tab and activate the "Ok" button.
To paste the block of text in an edit field, just select the block and press Enter.
In the add-on dialog box you also can rename, change the contents or delete the block of text.


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team



Re: Possible bug found in the Dropbox add on

Gene
 

I haven't used the add-on but itss reading information Dropbox
displays, not changing or misreading it. My Dropbox often displays
two days as the time. At first, I thought that was really the time
until I saw that the upload speed was the usual one and I found that a
file uploaded in the usual time. Dropbox has a bug.

Gene

On 3/30/20, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:
I think there may be something wrong with the latest version of the
Dropbox add on. I just uploaded a file and while I was checking it, it
kept saying the time left was 2 plus days! It actually just took a bit
over 2 minutes to upload. I checked it several times and it kept giving
me this very weird and incorrect time. After it finished it then did say
up to date as it should. Is there something wrong with the way it reads
the remaining time?


Roger






Possible bug found in the Dropbox add on

Roger Stewart
 

I think there may be something wrong with the latest version of the Dropbox add on. I just uploaded a file and while I was checking it, it kept saying the time left was 2 plus days!  It actually just took a bit over 2 minutes to upload. I checked it several times and it kept giving me this very weird and incorrect time. After it finished it then did say up to date as it should. Is there something wrong with the way it reads the remaining time?


Roger


New add-on, frequentText

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


We present a new add-on...


Frequent text
Informations
• Authors: Rui Fontes and Ângelo Abrantes, based on work of Marcos António de Oliveira
• Updated in 27/03/2020
• Download stable version
Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and posteriors
Presentation
This add-on provides a way to quickly insert blocks of text you type frequently in documents you write.
Usage
To start using this add-on you will need to fill the blocks of text you want to use. For that, first press Windows+f12. It will be displayed a dialog where you can press Tab to access the "Add" button. Activate it to create a new block. In the first dialog, type the name of the block and press Enter or activate the "Ok" button. It will present a dialog to type the block of text. Enter the lines you want, and when done, press Tab and activate the "Ok" button.
To paste the block of text in an edit field, just select the block and press Enter.
In the add-on dialog box you also can rename, change the contents or delete the block of text.


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team


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