Re: expanding links that won't expand
As a semi-useless aside, but it may prove instructive if we have HTML experts reading, the only way I knew that "Your Account" was classed as a button was by opening the page source for the simmarket.com page, searching for "Your Account" in the source, and finding this line:
<li class="header_user_menu_item toggle-click" id="header-user-menu-container_account"><button type="button" class="btn-header" onClick="toggle_account_menu(this);">Your Account</button><div id="account-menu" class="header-menu-container"> There's lots more that follows that for the display of all of the bits unveiled when that control is activated. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: NVDA with updated Windows Essentials
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Hmmm... Let's try this: 1. Press NvDA+Q. 2. When Exit NVDA dialog appears, press R until you arrive at "restart with add-ons disabled". 3. Press Enter. This will restart NVDA with add-ons (including Windows 10 App Essentials) turned off, possibly using Windows OneCore speech synthesizer. 4. Use Thunderbird as usual. 5. See if NVDA becomes sluggish or announces odd things. 6. Restart NVDA (press NVDA+Q, select "restart", and press Enter). This will restore add-ons. 7. Use Thunderbird as usual and see if NVDA becomes slow to respond or says odd things. In effect, what the above steps will do is let you compare how NVDA is doing with and without add-ons. If you don't have any add-ons installed (which you can check by opening NVDA menu (NVDA+N)(, Tools, Manage add-ons and looking at how many items are in the resulting add-ons list; if it is 0, there is no add-on), the above steps won't matter, as clearly it is with Thunderbird, something Mozilla must be notified (way beyond NVDA unless somehow it involves certain parts of NVDA). Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with updated Windows Essentials Joseph, I do not even know how to do this. I just know what I use every day and that is about it. On 4/1/2020 7:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi,-- Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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Re: expanding links that won't expand
Sarah,
First and foremost, thank you for posting a URL for myself and all other assistants. I presume you mean the "Your Account" control which, by the way, is not a link, although the View Cart and Contact Us immediately next to it are both links. In looking at the page source for the Your Account control, it is a button, but what a mutant version of a button. If you are using a mouse like I do, when you hover over this control the entire structure unveils itself for you to either point and click or click into text boxes like those for username and password. Under NVDA 2019.3.1, I find that I can get to it using the quick browsing 'b' command for buttons only when the page has first loaded, and once I land on it hitting enter opens up the whole range of controls it unveils. You can then TAB your way through all of them. Even though there are text boxes, buttons, and links as part of that control, they must be TABBED through. If I try using any of the usual single letter quick browsing commands I am instantly thrown back into the main body of the page itself and out of the "Your Account" control entirely. If I want to go back to that control, or even get to it in the first place, I find it far easier to use the browser search for "Your Account," hitting Escape to close the browser search once it's found, then NVDA has focus on the control and you can hit enter and start tabbing. I am using the latest version of Edge Dev (meaning I literally did the latest update after I'd opened that page, causing Edge Dev to restart). It should work similarly under any Chromium-based browser, and probably Firefox and other non-Chromium-based browsers, too. Give this a whirl and let me know how it works for you. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: NVDA with updated Windows Essentials
Betsy Grenevitch
Joseph, I do not even know how to do this. I just know what I use every day and that is about it.
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On 4/1/2020 7:04 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi, --
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Re: New add-on, frequentText
Jeff Samco
I need help knowing how to download the add-on file to then
install into NVDA. I am clickking on the link in the email that seems to
be associated with the "download stable
version" but I don't get an actual webpage to load.
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Thanks, Jeff
At 10:37 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote: Hello!
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Methods for copying text or links from chat messages in Zoom
Scott Salzman
Hi,
The second method is to use the standard Windows commands for selecting all text, and then for copying and pasting that text into Notepad. From there, you have an accessible text copy of the chat message content, from which you can find and select some text, or a link, and copy it into your web browser. Here are the steps:
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Re: Does nvda work with Microsoft teams?
Pramit
Hi Gene, Microsoft Teams is completely accessible with NVDA. Have used it on my Windows computer and haven't found any difficulty with it. Sharing some links from Microsoft Support and will be of help to anyone using Microsoft Teams The above link has all the information together at one place including setup and functionality, including the Microsoft Teams app download link. Hope this helps Pramit
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:47 AM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: hi guys
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expanding links that won't expand
I can't really describe this well, but there are links on some pages where if you click them, a menu pops out. I can get this to work on the mac but not that much in windows under nvda 19.2 and 19.3, actually I've ben having the issue since last year. I think they call these fly out menus. I think this is the job of the web dev to fix but is there a work around i"m missing. Here's an example
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Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature
David Csercsics
I'd assume the 64-bit Thunderbird would be supported, because you can get the 68.6 builds from the download page. True it's not the default option, but it works here. I don't know about the alpha build though. I expect they wouldn't test that much with stable NVDA.
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Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature
This is true. I might roll back and see
how it goes.
On 4/1/2020 9:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
One should never, and I mean never, expect that beta versions of any software are going to be completely bug free, and all the more so if one thing (Thunderbird, in this case) is a beta that's significantly in advance of the stable software (NVDA, in this case) it's being used with.
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Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature
One should never, and I mean never, expect that beta versions of any software are going to be completely bug free, and all the more so if one thing (Thunderbird, in this case) is a beta that's significantly in advance of the stable software (NVDA, in this case) it's being used with.
Reports of these issues are very valuable, but you really can't expect that anyone will devote a lot of time to them until the release candidate stage is reached unless it happens to be convenient. Definitely give the feedback to the folks at Mozilla just like you did here. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Does nvda work with Microsoft teams?
Kerryn Gunness
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thanks maan
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Re: Windows10Mail i selection view? To say Selected or Unselected before anything else?
Gerardo Corripio
Using the Windows10 native Mail app, put yourselves into Selection View, and space to select or unselect an Email, right? I’d like for NVDA tell you before anything else (subject and other info) when an Email is selected and unselected, while arrowing up or down through the Emails within the Selection View. That way, I could remind myself which Emails have been selected, and in case I think twice about having selected one, I could unselect it. Make sense?
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i am confused. Why would an email be selected if your cursor was not on it/ ****** If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerardo Corripio" <gera1027@...> To: "NVDA English EMail List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 5:27 AM Subject: [nvda] Windows10Mail i selection view? To say Selected or Unselected before anything else?
who would need to Intigrate code, so that while in the Windows10 Mail app, in Selection view, when arrowing up and down through EMails, I’d know if a message is selected or unselected, before speaking anything else like the subject etc? I know that not everyone Would be happy with this option as default, thus maybe a toggle would be useful, it if if it were to be implemented someday? The selected/unselected status at the beginning of the speech stream, for me at least, would make it more efficient to go through mails while in Selection view.
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Re: Windows10Mail i selection view? To say Selected or Unselected before anything else?
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
i am confused. Why would an email be selected if your cursor was not on it/
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****** If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
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From: "Gerardo Corripio" <gera1027@gmail.com> To: "NVDA English EMail List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 5:27 AM Subject: [nvda] Windows10Mail i selection view? To say Selected or Unselected before anything else? who would need to Intigrate code, so that while in the Windows10 Mail app, in Selection view, when arrowing up and down through EMails, I’d know if a message is selected or unselected, before speaking anything else like the subject etc? I know that not everyone Would be happy with this option as default, thus maybe a toggle would be useful, it if if it were to be implemented someday? The selected/unselected status at the beginning of the speech stream, for me at least, would make it more efficient to go through mails while in Selection view. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature
It's one of those things where I don't think they officially support the 64-bit version. Who knows why? Might be worth going back to that older, official, version.
On 4/1/2020 8:34 PM, Quentin
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Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature
Quentin Christensen
Is there something new in the Thunderbird betas perhaps? I just tried with alpha-19867,54f1b727 on Thunderbird 68.6.0 32-bit (the latest regular version?) and it read as normal, so it looks like it's something changed in Thunderbird, and might be worth contacting Mozilla perhaps? Does it do the same thing if you use NVDA 2019.3.1? I didn't notice a difference in Thunderbird 68.6, but if you could provide exact steps to repeat and exactly what superfluous information is being read I can double check. Regards Quentin.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:31 AM Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> wrote: I am having the same problem and it definitely interrupts the reading of --
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Re: Some 2019.3 questions
Clement Chou
Thank you Quentin! I did figure third party voices needed updating
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themselves, I was specificaly dealing with Windows one core voices. Thanks or answering all the questions!
On 4/1/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Clement,
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Re: Some 2019.3 questions
Quentin Christensen
Hi Clement, 1) Speech History is the new version of Clip Copy: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speech_history.en.html 2) The supported version for Switch Synth isn't listed on https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html however, according to the list of add-ons and python 3 compatibility: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/nvdapy3.en.html it is listed as being compatible. 3) Ok you've asked three questions here! 3a) I don't know for sure, but at a guess, some of the OneCore voices were likely based off previous SAPI5 voices, which would explain the two versions - otherwise, I'm not sure, you could ask Microsoft? 3b) auto language switching is a thing but it relies on the document advising of the language / language changes - that might explain why it works in some documents and not others? 3c) Updating voices - we update to newer builds of eSpeak-NG periodically, so one version of NVDA might (but not always) use a newer build than the previous version. For Windows OneCore voices, I expect Microsoft updates those themselves - whether they get pushed out invisibly, or as part of Windows updates, I'm not sure. For other voices (eg Eloquence or Acapela), they do get updated from time to time, you'll need to follow their retailers for updates. Kind regards Quentin.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:10 AM Clement Chou <chou.clement@...> wrote: Hey all. Just updatd to NVDA 2019.3 this morning, and have some --
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Re: Does nvda work with Microsoft teams?
Quentin Christensen
Hi Kerryn, Here is Microsoft's page with their shortcuts for Teams: Kind regards Quentin.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:11 PM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote: can u share the short cut keys? --
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Re: NVDA with updated Windows Essentials
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Before we get into debugging things, can you try running with add-ons disabled (press NVDA+Q, select "restart with add-ons disabled") and see if NVDA slows down? Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 4:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with updated Windows Essentials Joseph, I do not know the command for "debug lockdown". I will gladly do that for you if you can give me the command because the latest update on either Thunderbird or something else has definitely caused the program to be sluggish. Thanks so much for all you do. I am definitely hoping to donate to NV Access some time this year. On 4/1/2020 12:29 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi,-- Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876
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