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Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

Brian Moore
 

HI.  already done. I agree completely. this is part of the bargain when running beta stuff.


On 4/2/2020 12:37 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
just use the stable version like I do.
Or, if you decide you want to be on a beta channel, hold up your end of the bargain:  report bugs.

While it's fine to try out beta software and ditch it if it doesn't work (yet), if something as critical as what has been described here occurs, it's up to you (any you) to file a bug report about it.  Many bugs these days for pre-release software aren't found by in-house testing groups, but are found by the huge numbers of people who signed up to be on any one of a number of pre-release channels for a given piece of software.  A good example of where there are multiple pre-release channels for a piece of software is the new Edge, that has three:  Canary (updated nightly), Dev (updated weeekly), and Beta (updated every six weeks).

If folks using screen readers aren't willing to report accessibility issues when they are using beta software, then who do you think should be?  You are far more likely to run into those issues, and instantly recognize them, than any sighted developer (or end user) is.  For heaven's sake, take the initiative to identify accessibility issues to development teams when you find them, using the appropriate channel to do that.  And if you don't now what that is, ask, or even better, try a web search on "bug report {insert program here}," and then ask if you don't find a useful result in the first 10 results.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: New add-on, frequentText

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Here, it did works alriiight...

Try this one from my DropBox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3xw6vot6whdrygo/frequentText-1.0.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards,


Rui Fontes



Às 04:09 de 02/04/2020, Jeff Samco escreveu:

I need help knowing how to download the add-on file to then install into NVDA. I am clickking on the link in the email that seems to be associated  with the  "download  stable version" but I don't get an actual webpage to load.
Thanks,
Jeff

At 10:37 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:

Hello!


We present a new add-on...


Frequent text
Informations
• Authors: Rui Fontes and Ângelo Abrantes, based on work of Marcos António de Oliveira
• Updated in 27/03/2020
• Download stable version
Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and posteriors
Presentation
This add-on provides a way to quickly insert blocks of text you type frequently in documents you write.
Usage
To start using this add-on you will need to fill the blocks of text you want to use. For that, first press Windows+f12. It will be displayed a dialog where you can press Tab to access the "Add" button. Activate it to create a new block. In the first dialog, type the name of the block and press Enter or activate the "Ok" button. It will present a dialog to type the block of text. Enter the lines you want, and when done, press Tab and activate the "Ok" button.
To paste the block of text in an edit field, just select the block and press Enter.
In the add-on dialog box you also can rename, change the contents or delete the block of text.


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team


Re: Windows Training for free, for anyone who is looking for something to do during this time.

Martin O'Sullivan
 

Cathy's meeting was Zoombombed last night,  That is to say Troals attended the meeting and disrupted it   All the new meetings will have a password.

To get the password, you need to contact Cathy 

 

There is more information here. http://www.blind.training/lunch-break-windows-10-training-course/




Re: Does nvda work with Microsoft teams?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Pramit and others who replied



Thank you very much for getting back to me about Microsoft teams and also confirming how accessible it is. the information and links etc have been passed on.


Gene nz


On 2/04/2020 3:35 pm, Pramit wrote:
Hi Gene,

Microsoft Teams is completely accessible with NVDA. 
Have used it on my Windows computer and haven't found any difficulty with it.
Sharing some links from Microsoft Support and will be of help to anyone using Microsoft Teams


The above link has all the information together at one place including setup and functionality, including the Microsoft Teams app download link.

Hope this helps

Pramit




On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:47 AM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
hi guys


I do not use the above program for work etc but have been asked by a
adaptive tech person how well NVDA works with this program.


Has any one used it on this list? Does it work well with nvda is there
any qwerks?


Any feed back would be good to feed back to them.


Gene nz






Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

Hello all,

Managed to contact a Thunderbird engineer via Twitter. To help figuring out what’s going with recent TB beta releases, this engineer graciously posted archive links for TB betas (use it at your own risk, especially if you wish to report issues to Thunderbird developers in tracking down performance issues):

You must choose the installer that is designed for your processor/platform (win32 or win64; for sake of ese of testing, try win32).

For each beta release, please do as exactly as I say below:

  1. Install each beta, beginning with 74 beta 2.
  2. Use Thunderbird as usual.
  3. Note down issues such as sluggishness or extra chatter.
  4. If you don’t experience issues, install the next (newer) beta.
  5. Repeat steps 2 through 4 until you do come across issues.
  6. Should you experience issues, report to the list immediately so Thunderbird developers can be notified. Be sure to note down exactly what issues you are having and in which Thunderbird beta version you are experiencing these issues.

 

There is a tool called Mozregression that allows developers to pinpoint exactly which change introduced a bug (NVDA developers can also do this through a tool called “git bisect”). But since not many of you are experienced in this sort of thing, the steps I listed above is the next best thing we have.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

68.6 is great. It does what I need it to do. No annoying issues.

 

I need to check out web interfaces for mail. I never have done much with that.

 

 


 

On 4/2/2020 1:23 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well to be hhonest if it gets that bad you can always get the older 52x release which is not ever going to aparently get updated.

 

 

On 2/04/2020 6:02 pm, Governor staten wrote:

If you revert back, you have to create a new profile. I did it. I have more email accounts to set up. You have to reset all of your settings. I will be sticking with the "release" version of this program, or go to something else in the future.

 

 


 

On 4/1/2020 11:50 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I do not know how to revert back and if I do will all of my emails stay in tact?

 

Thanks so much for your help.

 

On 4/1/2020 11:29 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Betsy and all,

I see.

If I understand you correctly, NVDA somehow does not read next messages automatically when you delete the current message in Thunderbird, and you say this problem began when you updated add-ons and/or Thunderbird. To really figure out if it is Thunderbird, can you try reverting (going back) to latest public version of Thunderbird? If that resolves the problem, I think a love call to Mozilla would be in order (i.e. reporting the problem in hopes of Mozilla understanding and resolving it). Also, given that some folks did report a similar problem, I hope others can chime in with their findings with the steps I wrote earlier.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

I assume I have the latest version of thunderbird. It seemed to start acting up about the same time I updated Thunderbird and also did some add-on updates with NVDA but I do not recall what they are.

 

It took me over half an hour even to get in the program tonight when I had shut it down--Thunderbird.

 

I wish I could figure out how to describe what is going one. One thing is when you delete an email it starts saying different letters like it is trying to tell you what is going on. I also can no longer go from one email to the next and have it read smoothly like I used to be able to do by just pushing the delete on the numpad and it going right to the next email. I now have to push insert and then down arrow--not numpad keys for it to stop saying all of those different letters. It is really hard to describe. It was running so smoothly.

 

I wonder if it is because I am running a beta version as I was willing to be a tester for them? I did not think of that earlier.

 

 

On 4/1/2020 8:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Is there something new in the Thunderbird betas perhaps?  I just tried with alpha-19867,54f1b727 on Thunderbird 68.6.0 32-bit (the latest regular version?) and it read as normal, so it looks like it's something changed in Thunderbird, and might be worth contacting Mozilla perhaps?  Does it do the same thing if you use NVDA 2019.3.1?  I didn't notice a difference in Thunderbird 68.6, but if you could provide exact steps to repeat and exactly what superfluous information is being read I can double check.


Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:31 AM Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> wrote:

I am having the same problem and it definitely interrupts the reading of
email.



On 3/31/2020 5:17 PM, Governor staten wrote:
> Hello, everyone. I'm using Thunderbird 75 beta 2 64 bit with the
> latest NVDA Alpha. As of a few days ago, the reading of certain
> processes in Thunderbird is being done. However, it is way too
> verbose. Sometimes it reads pieces of text and letters. I wish I knew
> what this was and how to modify it, or turn it off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


 

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876
-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

68.6 is great. It does what I need it to do. No annoying issues.


I need to check out web interfaces for mail. I never have done much with that.





On 4/2/2020 1:23 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well to be hhonest if it gets that bad you can always get the older 52x release which is not ever going to aparently get updated.



On 2/04/2020 6:02 pm, Governor staten wrote:

If you revert back, you have to create a new profile. I did it. I have more email accounts to set up. You have to reset all of your settings. I will be sticking with the "release" version of this program, or go to something else in the future.





On 4/1/2020 11:50 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I do not know how to revert back and if I do will all of my emails stay in tact?


Thanks so much for your help.


On 4/1/2020 11:29 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Betsy and all,

I see.

If I understand you correctly, NVDA somehow does not read next messages automatically when you delete the current message in Thunderbird, and you say this problem began when you updated add-ons and/or Thunderbird. To really figure out if it is Thunderbird, can you try reverting (going back) to latest public version of Thunderbird? If that resolves the problem, I think a love call to Mozilla would be in order (i.e. reporting the problem in hopes of Mozilla understanding and resolving it). Also, given that some folks did report a similar problem, I hope others can chime in with their findings with the steps I wrote earlier.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

I assume I have the latest version of thunderbird. It seemed to start acting up about the same time I updated Thunderbird and also did some add-on updates with NVDA but I do not recall what they are.

 

It took me over half an hour even to get in the program tonight when I had shut it down--Thunderbird.

 

I wish I could figure out how to describe what is going one. One thing is when you delete an email it starts saying different letters like it is trying to tell you what is going on. I also can no longer go from one email to the next and have it read smoothly like I used to be able to do by just pushing the delete on the numpad and it going right to the next email. I now have to push insert and then down arrow--not numpad keys for it to stop saying all of those different letters. It is really hard to describe. It was running so smoothly.

 

I wonder if it is because I am running a beta version as I was willing to be a tester for them? I did not think of that earlier.

 

 

On 4/1/2020 8:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Is there something new in the Thunderbird betas perhaps?  I just tried with alpha-19867,54f1b727 on Thunderbird 68.6.0 32-bit (the latest regular version?) and it read as normal, so it looks like it's something changed in Thunderbird, and might be worth contacting Mozilla perhaps?  Does it do the same thing if you use NVDA 2019.3.1?  I didn't notice a difference in Thunderbird 68.6, but if you could provide exact steps to repeat and exactly what superfluous information is being read I can double check.


Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:31 AM Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> wrote:

I am having the same problem and it definitely interrupts the reading of
email.



On 3/31/2020 5:17 PM, Governor staten wrote:
> Hello, everyone. I'm using Thunderbird 75 beta 2 64 bit with the
> latest NVDA Alpha. As of a few days ago, the reading of certain
> processes in Thunderbird is being done. However, it is way too
> verbose. Sometimes it reads pieces of text and letters. I wish I knew
> what this was and how to modify it, or turn it off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876
-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

Well to be hhonest if it gets that bad you can always get the older 52x release which is not ever going to aparently get updated.



On 2/04/2020 6:02 pm, Governor staten wrote:

If you revert back, you have to create a new profile. I did it. I have more email accounts to set up. You have to reset all of your settings. I will be sticking with the "release" version of this program, or go to something else in the future.





On 4/1/2020 11:50 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I do not know how to revert back and if I do will all of my emails stay in tact?


Thanks so much for your help.


On 4/1/2020 11:29 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Betsy and all,

I see.

If I understand you correctly, NVDA somehow does not read next messages automatically when you delete the current message in Thunderbird, and you say this problem began when you updated add-ons and/or Thunderbird. To really figure out if it is Thunderbird, can you try reverting (going back) to latest public version of Thunderbird? If that resolves the problem, I think a love call to Mozilla would be in order (i.e. reporting the problem in hopes of Mozilla understanding and resolving it). Also, given that some folks did report a similar problem, I hope others can chime in with their findings with the steps I wrote earlier.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

I assume I have the latest version of thunderbird. It seemed to start acting up about the same time I updated Thunderbird and also did some add-on updates with NVDA but I do not recall what they are.

 

It took me over half an hour even to get in the program tonight when I had shut it down--Thunderbird.

 

I wish I could figure out how to describe what is going one. One thing is when you delete an email it starts saying different letters like it is trying to tell you what is going on. I also can no longer go from one email to the next and have it read smoothly like I used to be able to do by just pushing the delete on the numpad and it going right to the next email. I now have to push insert and then down arrow--not numpad keys for it to stop saying all of those different letters. It is really hard to describe. It was running so smoothly.

 

I wonder if it is because I am running a beta version as I was willing to be a tester for them? I did not think of that earlier.

 

 

On 4/1/2020 8:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Is there something new in the Thunderbird betas perhaps?  I just tried with alpha-19867,54f1b727 on Thunderbird 68.6.0 32-bit (the latest regular version?) and it read as normal, so it looks like it's something changed in Thunderbird, and might be worth contacting Mozilla perhaps?  Does it do the same thing if you use NVDA 2019.3.1?  I didn't notice a difference in Thunderbird 68.6, but if you could provide exact steps to repeat and exactly what superfluous information is being read I can double check.


Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:31 AM Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> wrote:

I am having the same problem and it definitely interrupts the reading of
email.



On 3/31/2020 5:17 PM, Governor staten wrote:
> Hello, everyone. I'm using Thunderbird 75 beta 2 64 bit with the
> latest NVDA Alpha. As of a few days ago, the reading of certain
> processes in Thunderbird is being done. However, it is way too
> verbose. Sometimes it reads pieces of text and letters. I wish I knew
> what this was and how to modify it, or turn it off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876
-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

If you revert back, you have to create a new profile. I did it. I have more email accounts to set up. You have to reset all of your settings. I will be sticking with the "release" version of this program, or go to something else in the future.





On 4/1/2020 11:50 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I do not know how to revert back and if I do will all of my emails stay in tact?


Thanks so much for your help.


On 4/1/2020 11:29 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Betsy and all,

I see.

If I understand you correctly, NVDA somehow does not read next messages automatically when you delete the current message in Thunderbird, and you say this problem began when you updated add-ons and/or Thunderbird. To really figure out if it is Thunderbird, can you try reverting (going back) to latest public version of Thunderbird? If that resolves the problem, I think a love call to Mozilla would be in order (i.e. reporting the problem in hopes of Mozilla understanding and resolving it). Also, given that some folks did report a similar problem, I hope others can chime in with their findings with the steps I wrote earlier.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

I assume I have the latest version of thunderbird. It seemed to start acting up about the same time I updated Thunderbird and also did some add-on updates with NVDA but I do not recall what they are.

 

It took me over half an hour even to get in the program tonight when I had shut it down--Thunderbird.

 

I wish I could figure out how to describe what is going one. One thing is when you delete an email it starts saying different letters like it is trying to tell you what is going on. I also can no longer go from one email to the next and have it read smoothly like I used to be able to do by just pushing the delete on the numpad and it going right to the next email. I now have to push insert and then down arrow--not numpad keys for it to stop saying all of those different letters. It is really hard to describe. It was running so smoothly.

 

I wonder if it is because I am running a beta version as I was willing to be a tester for them? I did not think of that earlier.

 

 

On 4/1/2020 8:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Is there something new in the Thunderbird betas perhaps?  I just tried with alpha-19867,54f1b727 on Thunderbird 68.6.0 32-bit (the latest regular version?) and it read as normal, so it looks like it's something changed in Thunderbird, and might be worth contacting Mozilla perhaps?  Does it do the same thing if you use NVDA 2019.3.1?  I didn't notice a difference in Thunderbird 68.6, but if you could provide exact steps to repeat and exactly what superfluous information is being read I can double check.


Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:31 AM Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> wrote:

I am having the same problem and it definitely interrupts the reading of
email.



On 3/31/2020 5:17 PM, Governor staten wrote:
> Hello, everyone. I'm using Thunderbird 75 beta 2 64 bit with the
> latest NVDA Alpha. As of a few days ago, the reading of certain
> processes in Thunderbird is being done. However, it is way too
> verbose. Sometimes it reads pieces of text and letters. I wish I knew
> what this was and how to modify it, or turn it off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876
-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: expanding links that won't expand

Gene
 

I don’t know what you see if you are logged in, but I see all these links without logging in.  Do you see them if you aren’t logged in? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 9:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] expanding links that won't expand
 

I can't really describe this well, but there are links on some pages where if you click them, a menu pops out. I can get this to work on the mac but not that much in windows under nvda 19.2 and 19.3, actually I've ben having the issue since last year. I think they call these fly out menus. I think this is the job of the web dev to fix but is there a work around i"m missing. Here's an example

  1. Go to simmarket.com
  2. I'm not sure if you have to be log in for this but click the my account link. You should see "my wish list, my cart, my orders etc. I cannot get this to expand even after playing with it. Sometimes I can route with nvda backspace but even then after trying that trick the page does not show these options. I'm beginning to go nuts as this is how I can get my keys and stuff for softwares and downloads to updates.

Take care and I hope that helps a bit.

And by the way contacting these devs is not that easy. I've already tried, they don't really care.

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Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
just use the stable version like I do.
Or, if you decide you want to be on a beta channel, hold up your end of the bargain:  report bugs.

While it's fine to try out beta software and ditch it if it doesn't work (yet), if something as critical as what has been described here occurs, it's up to you (any you) to file a bug report about it.  Many bugs these days for pre-release software aren't found by in-house testing groups, but are found by the huge numbers of people who signed up to be on any one of a number of pre-release channels for a given piece of software.  A good example of where there are multiple pre-release channels for a piece of software is the new Edge, that has three:  Canary (updated nightly), Dev (updated weeekly), and Beta (updated every six weeks).

If folks using screen readers aren't willing to report accessibility issues when they are using beta software, then who do you think should be?  You are far more likely to run into those issues, and instantly recognize them, than any sighted developer (or end user) is.  For heaven's sake, take the initiative to identify accessibility issues to development teams when you find them, using the appropriate channel to do that.  And if you don't now what that is, ask, or even better, try a web search on "bug report {insert program here}," and then ask if you don't find a useful result in the first 10 results.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

Hmmm just use the stable version like I do.

Then you don't have a problem.



On 2/04/2020 4:30 pm, Brian Moore wrote:

This is specific to the 75 version betas of thunderbird.  Turning off the status line helps some but not entirely.  they still haven't fixed the ability to sort columns and the addon will no longer let you do it in these versions.


If there was an easy way to go back to the production release I would do it but my mail database won't port back.

Brian.

On 4/1/2020 11:25 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I forgot to mention that I do not understand what you turned off to try to use it.


On 4/1/2020 8:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Is there something new in the Thunderbird betas perhaps?  I just tried with alpha-19867,54f1b727 on Thunderbird 68.6.0 32-bit (the latest regular version?) and it read as normal, so it looks like it's something changed in Thunderbird, and might be worth contacting Mozilla perhaps?  Does it do the same thing if you use NVDA 2019.3.1?  I didn't notice a difference in Thunderbird 68.6, but if you could provide exact steps to repeat and exactly what superfluous information is being read I can double check.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:31 AM Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> wrote:
I am having the same problem and it definitely interrupts the reading of
email.



On 3/31/2020 5:17 PM, Governor staten wrote:
> Hello, everyone. I'm using Thunderbird 75 beta 2 64 bit with the
> latest NVDA Alpha. As of a few days ago, the reading of certain
> processes in Thunderbird is being done. However, it is way too
> verbose. Sometimes it reads pieces of text and letters. I wish I knew
> what this was and how to modify it, or turn it off.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: New add-on, frequentText

 

it probably downloads the file to your downloads folder if its direct.

Anyway you just run the file from your downloads folder and it just does.



On 2/04/2020 4:09 pm, Jeff Samco wrote:
I need help knowing how to download the add-on file to then install into NVDA. I am clickking on the link in the email that seems to be associated  with the  "download  stable version" but I don't get an actual webpage to load.
Thanks,
Jeff

At 10:37 AM 3/30/2020, you wrote:

Hello!


We present a new add-on...


Frequent text
Informations
• Authors: Rui Fontes and Ângelo Abrantes, based on work of Marcos António de Oliveira
• Updated in 27/03/2020
• Download stable version
Compatibility: NVDA version 2019.3 and posteriors
Presentation
This add-on provides a way to quickly insert blocks of text you type frequently in documents you write.
Usage
To start using this add-on you will need to fill the blocks of text you want to use. For that, first press Windows+f12. It will be displayed a dialog where you can press Tab to access the "Add" button. Activate it to create a new block. In the first dialog, type the name of the block and press Enter or activate the "Ok" button. It will present a dialog to type the block of text. Enter the lines you want, and when done, press Tab and activate the "Ok" button.
To paste the block of text in an edit field, just select the block and press Enter.
In the add-on dialog box you also can rename, change the contents or delete the block of text.


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

Hi,

As for turning off status bar elements, I don’t know, as I don’t use Thunderbird at all (I use a combination of web email client interfaces, Outlook 365, and Windows 10 Mail to varying degrees).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

Thank you so very much. It is still sluggish with add-ons off so it must be the beta version. I tried to be brave to try something in beta and I guess it did not work. My daughter keeps telling me I need to be more brave with computers and try new things but it never seems to work out.

 

Do you know how to tell me how to turn off the status bar so I can try that to see if it would make a difference? I assume you do not need a report now that it is still sluggish without the add-ons, correct? I do not know how to thank you for your patience.

 

 

On 4/1/2020 11:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

I and Quentin know two Mozilla employees who might be able to help (I’ll get a Twitter love letter going).

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

How do I report to Thunderbird what is happening with the beta version? Sorry I know so little so please be patient with me.

 

On 4/1/2020 9:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

One should never, and I mean never, expect that beta versions of any software are going to be completely bug free, and all the more so if one thing (Thunderbird, in this case) is a beta that's significantly in advance of the stable software (NVDA, in this case) it's being used with.

Reports of these issues are very valuable, but you really can't expect that anyone will devote a lot of time to them until the release candidate stage is reached unless it happens to be convenient.  Definitely give the feedback to the folks at Mozilla just like you did here.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876
-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for your efforts.  Thunderbird 68.X is the last version that is fully accessible.  Versions after that do not read the status line--a key feature without which blind users are greatly disadvantage.  Maybe you could mention this glaring issue that has existed since version 68.

On 4/1/2020 11:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

I and Quentin know two Mozilla employees who might be able to help (I’ll get a Twitter love letter going).

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

How do I report to Thunderbird what is happening with the beta version? Sorry I know so little so please be patient with me.

 

On 4/1/2020 9:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

One should never, and I mean never, expect that beta versions of any software are going to be completely bug free, and all the more so if one thing (Thunderbird, in this case) is a beta that's significantly in advance of the stable software (NVDA, in this case) it's being used with.

Reports of these issues are very valuable, but you really can't expect that anyone will devote a lot of time to them until the release candidate stage is reached unless it happens to be convenient.  Definitely give the feedback to the folks at Mozilla just like you did here.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I did not see a link in your previous email so guess I might try this later today. Thanks.


On 4/1/2020 11:57 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
I do not know how to revert back and if I do will all of my emails stay in tact?
As I noted earlier, downloading the regular Thunderbird release channel installer from:  https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/download/
then running it should replace your beta channel install with the regular one.

If you have been using IMAP access, all your e-mail messages are on the server and will still be there and be intact even if you were to uninstall Thunderbird entirely and replace it with another e-mail client.   If an install-over install using the regular channel installer doesn't convert you to the release channel, then you would need to uninstall the beta version manually and then run the release channel installer (and in which case you'd probably have to set up your e-mail accounts again, but I can't guarantee that, as it may give you an option to preserve your existing Thunderbird user profile).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Thank you so very much. It is still sluggish with add-ons off so it must be the beta version. I tried to be brave to try something in beta and I guess it did not work. My daughter keeps telling me I need to be more brave with computers and try new things but it never seems to work out.


Do you know how to tell me how to turn off the status bar so I can try that to see if it would make a difference? I assume you do not need a report now that it is still sluggish without the add-ons, correct? I do not know how to thank you for your patience.



On 4/1/2020 11:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

I and Quentin know two Mozilla employees who might be able to help (I’ll get a Twitter love letter going).

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

How do I report to Thunderbird what is happening with the beta version? Sorry I know so little so please be patient with me.

 

On 4/1/2020 9:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

One should never, and I mean never, expect that beta versions of any software are going to be completely bug free, and all the more so if one thing (Thunderbird, in this case) is a beta that's significantly in advance of the stable software (NVDA, in this case) it's being used with.

Reports of these issues are very valuable, but you really can't expect that anyone will devote a lot of time to them until the release candidate stage is reached unless it happens to be convenient.  Definitely give the feedback to the folks at Mozilla just like you did here.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876
-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Thank you and no I do not have that kind of account.


It is getting late so will have to try this tomorrow.


On 4/1/2020 11:52 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:42 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
How do I report to Thunderbird what is happening with the beta version?
All bug reports for all Mozilla products (and Thunderbird, which is a spin-off) are handled via bugzilla.  Here is the direct link for Thunderbird related reports:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Thunderbird

Of course, if you don't have a bugzilla account, you will need to create one before you can actually begin reporting bugs.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:50 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
I do not know how to revert back and if I do will all of my emails stay in tact?
As I noted earlier, downloading the regular Thunderbird release channel installer from:  https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/download/
then running it should replace your beta channel install with the regular one.

If you have been using IMAP access, all your e-mail messages are on the server and will still be there and be intact even if you were to uninstall Thunderbird entirely and replace it with another e-mail client.   If an install-over install using the regular channel installer doesn't convert you to the release channel, then you would need to uninstall the beta version manually and then run the release channel installer (and in which case you'd probably have to set up your e-mail accounts again, but I can't guarantee that, as it may give you an option to preserve your existing Thunderbird user profile).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

Hi,

I and Quentin know two Mozilla employees who might be able to help (I’ll get a Twitter love letter going).

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

How do I report to Thunderbird what is happening with the beta version? Sorry I know so little so please be patient with me.

 

On 4/1/2020 9:05 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

One should never, and I mean never, expect that beta versions of any software are going to be completely bug free, and all the more so if one thing (Thunderbird, in this case) is a beta that's significantly in advance of the stable software (NVDA, in this case) it's being used with.

Reports of these issues are very valuable, but you really can't expect that anyone will devote a lot of time to them until the release candidate stage is reached unless it happens to be convenient.  Definitely give the feedback to the folks at Mozilla just like you did here.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

 

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:42 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
How do I report to Thunderbird what is happening with the beta version?
All bug reports for all Mozilla products (and Thunderbird, which is a spin-off) are handled via bugzilla.  Here is the direct link for Thunderbird related reports:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Thunderbird

Of course, if you don't have a bugzilla account, you will need to create one before you can actually begin reporting bugs.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna