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Re: How accessible is Zoom with NVDA?

Clement Chou
 

Zom seems decently accessible. But whenever there's an edit box, like
editing the meeting topic or your PMI,NVDA doesn't read the changes or
let you use full editing commands. But changes do work as you type
them so you just have to go off memory, it seems like. Unless there's
something I'm missing?

On 4/2/20, Scott Salzman <scott.salzman@...> wrote:
Thanks for sharing this tip, Michael.

Scott


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Subject: Re: [nvda] How accessible is Zoom with NVDA?

You can actually enable Global Keyboard Shortcut by go to your Zoom Settings
menu. To do that, press Tab Key until you heard settings. When you get to
the settings menu, Press enter on it.
After you pressed Enter, Press Down Arrow until you find Keyboard Shortcut.
Press Space bar to get in to Keyboard Shortcut. then press Tab until you
heard the following from your Screen Reader: "Learn more Enable Global
Shortcut Button" Then press Down Arrow to find the keyboard shortcut that
you want to enable. The keyboard shortcut are grouped in to a table,
therefore you can Press CTRL+Ault plus the arrow keys to navigate across
the list of shortcut.
I hope the following information can be beneficial.
Best regards
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Alt + control + shift doesn’t work. Well actually, I can’t tell, because
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I've not experienced Zoom freezing, though I should note that I only use
screen readers for testing, and not for routine use. That said, I've spent
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one with your session, whenever I use Control+Alt+Shift, that always brings
me back to the Zoom window with the session, and the Zoom controls. You
might consider using Alt+Tab to switch between Zoom and other applications,
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So I tried everything… it seems that Zoom keeps freezing. I also hear when
I’m switching between different windows with Alt Tab, there are two windows
of Zoom open when in a meeting. I think it’s the Zoom application and the
meeting controls… but I can’t tell, since I’m having issues navigating. I
did enable always show meeting controls in the accessibility settings.
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Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Gene
 

Here is the link.  It was originally the second half of a presentation.  The first half dealt with Audacity but it is old now and there is a considerable amount of new information so I’m not distributing the Audacithy section much.  But the MP3 Direct Cut section is all or almost all current.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 

Gene,


Yes, please do send that presentation.  I have been trying to do some things and I think I need more intro before I am going to be very successful.


Thank you very much


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 5:10 PM, Gene wrote:
I don’t know why it doesn’t have access but it can be used as a portable program.  the installer places shortcuts in various places to let you conveniently run the program.  I don’t remember how it is packaged.  I haven’t installed it for years but if it is offered as a zip program, you can unzip it wherever you want and use it.
 
Or you can try installing it in a different folder.  Does the installer allow you to change the installation folder?
 
Did you also get the Lame encoder?  You need to place the Lame.dll encoder file in the program folder.  I’m not sure I gave the exact name of the file but its very close and Lame is correct.
 
I can send you a presentation on the basics of how to use the program and it may contain a little installation infrmation.  I did it years ago and I don’t remember exactly what I put in it.
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 

Gene,


I downloaded MP3 direct cut and tried to install it on my system.  I downloaded the version for Win 10.  It won't install, it says it doesn't have access to the folder where it wants to install it.  I will have to figure out another place to install it where it will still work.  Or, I may try to figure out how to authorize it.


It sounds good so thanks for suggesting it in an earlier posting.


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 4:13 PM, Gene wrote:
CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 
 
It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 
 
If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 
i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" mailto:nadeau.jon@...
To: mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



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Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Gene
 

I’ll send a link to the ;presentation after I upload it to my Dropbox account.  Please address further discussion to the chat group or to mhe at
 
This isn’t about NVDA, its about using the program.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 

Gene,


Yes, please do send that presentation.  I have been trying to do some things and I think I need more intro before I am going to be very successful.


Thank you very much


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 5:10 PM, Gene wrote:
I don’t know why it doesn’t have access but it can be used as a portable program.  the installer places shortcuts in various places to let you conveniently run the program.  I don’t remember how it is packaged.  I haven’t installed it for years but if it is offered as a zip program, you can unzip it wherever you want and use it.
 
Or you can try installing it in a different folder.  Does the installer allow you to change the installation folder?
 
Did you also get the Lame encoder?  You need to place the Lame.dll encoder file in the program folder.  I’m not sure I gave the exact name of the file but its very close and Lame is correct.
 
I can send you a presentation on the basics of how to use the program and it may contain a little installation infrmation.  I did it years ago and I don’t remember exactly what I put in it.
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 

Gene,


I downloaded MP3 direct cut and tried to install it on my system.  I downloaded the version for Win 10.  It won't install, it says it doesn't have access to the folder where it wants to install it.  I will have to figure out another place to install it where it will still work.  Or, I may try to figure out how to authorize it.


It sounds good so thanks for suggesting it in an earlier posting.


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 4:13 PM, Gene wrote:
CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 
 
It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 
 
If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 
i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" mailto:nadeau.jon@...
To: mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



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Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

To be honest virtual recorder suits me ok, but it can sometimes have issues from time to time.

What I really want to get is aph studio recorder.

I found that quite cool to use.

During school and for a few years, I found a pirated virus loaded version which I extensively used when I was yunger.

Its always been my eventual aim to buy it but I never managed to do so and now with the current climate I am unsure if I will be buying it right now it remains out of my reach but I liked its shortcut keys and ease of use.



On 3/04/2020 10:24 am, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yep. I used to use CDEX as a recording tool when I was in class to quickly record, then I would edit and split later, taking out the dead time when I was writing an essay durin class etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Apr 2020, at 13:32, David Griffith wrote:

 

This is not correct.

CDex has an analogue  recording function  so is perfectly feasible as a recording tool.

Check out the second menu option under Tools – analogue recording where you can set input devices including  choice of microphone and you can also specify sampling rates etc.

 

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 April 2020 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 

 

It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 

 

If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Dan Beaver
 

Gene,


Yes, please do send that presentation.  I have been trying to do some things and I think I need more intro before I am going to be very successful.


Thank you very much


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 5:10 PM, Gene wrote:
I don’t know why it doesn’t have access but it can be used as a portable program.  the installer places shortcuts in various places to let you conveniently run the program.  I don’t remember how it is packaged.  I haven’t installed it for years but if it is offered as a zip program, you can unzip it wherever you want and use it.
 
Or you can try installing it in a different folder.  Does the installer allow you to change the installation folder?
 
Did you also get the Lame encoder?  You need to place the Lame.dll encoder file in the program folder.  I’m not sure I gave the exact name of the file but its very close and Lame is correct.
 
I can send you a presentation on the basics of how to use the program and it may contain a little installation infrmation.  I did it years ago and I don’t remember exactly what I put in it.
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 

Gene,


I downloaded MP3 direct cut and tried to install it on my system.  I downloaded the version for Win 10.  It won't install, it says it doesn't have access to the folder where it wants to install it.  I will have to figure out another place to install it where it will still work.  Or, I may try to figure out how to authorize it.


It sounds good so thanks for suggesting it in an earlier posting.


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 4:13 PM, Gene wrote:
CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 
 
It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 
 
If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 
i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" mailto:nadeau.jon@...
To: mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Gene
 

Best is a meaningless term in this context.  Best for what?  Do you want good effects?  Do you want specific abilities or features?  Your question cannot be properly answered. 
 
However, if you want to try a free multitrack recording program that is quite accessible and that is already used by a lot of blind people, there is a blind users list, you may want to try Audacity.  If you want a program that has professional effects and perhaps other features I don’t know about, you may want something else.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. But I should had wored my question a little different. I should have asked what is the best multi-track recorder for nvda.

 

 

On 4/2/2020 5:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yep. I used to use CDEX as a recording tool when I was in class to quickly record, then I would edit and split later, taking out the dead time when I was writing an essay durin class etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Apr 2020, at 13:32, David Griffith wrote:

 

This is not correct.

CDex has an analogue  recording function  so is perfectly feasible as a recording tool.

Check out the second menu option under Tools – analogue recording where you can set input devices including  choice of microphone and you can also specify sampling rates etc.

 

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 April 2020 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 

 

It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 

 

If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



Re: Does nvda work with Microsoft teams?

David Goldfield
 

Hello.

While Microsoft Teams does have a few accessibility issues it does work very nicely with NVDA. I have started a discussion group for the purpose of discussing Teams with an emphasis on accessibility. To join, send an email to

teams-access+subscribe@groups.io

Please note that, due to time constraints, I am not able to provide personal support regarding using Teams. However, please send any relevant questions to the list.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org


Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Ejaz Shah
 

Audacity.

On 03/04/2020 2:44 am, Jonathan Nadeau wrote:

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. But I should had wored my question a little different. I should have asked what is the best multi-track recorder for nvda.



On 4/2/2020 5:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yep. I used to use CDEX as a recording tool when I was in class to quickly record, then I would edit and split later, taking out the dead time when I was writing an essay durin class etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Apr 2020, at 13:32, David Griffith wrote:

 

This is not correct.

CDex has an analogue  recording function  so is perfectly feasible as a recording tool.

Check out the second menu option under Tools – analogue recording where you can set input devices including  choice of microphone and you can also specify sampling rates etc.

 

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 April 2020 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 

 

It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 

 

If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



Re: expanding links that won't expand

 

Jonathan,

           Heaven knows if someone can use the technique you suggest, it's far preferable.  I was just going for something that was dirt simple as far as generating the source code which puts the majority of the burden on the person doing the analysis of it after the fact.

           I love your technique, I just don't know how many will be successful with it, but they should try, for sure.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: expanding links that won't expand

Jonathan COHN
 

Another way to capture a portion of a web page coding is to use the inspect element. This often shows up in the contextual menu, but not always. Although this presents a panel that is more complex than show source, it does put your cursor directly on the part of the code that you right clicked on. . Then moving up a line or two and using the application key again you can usually copy the appropriate HTML.

Jonathan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] expanding links that won't expand

External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 02:04 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

however the Canada air express site which I do not have. Has a link that might not work this way.

I keep trying to explain, and apparently to little avail, that web coding is an extremely fluid environment.  It's still in the process of actively being invented "beyond the basics" that have been around almost since the beginning.

There will be things that will not be accessible for a variety of reasons, some of which can be screen reader related and others that originate in what's being exposed to the screen reader itself.   And I expect it will continue to be this way for years, as the brilliant (and not so brilliant) young things keep coming up with new ideas in regard to how to present things on webpages.   It's going to be a game of catch-up on steroids.

But when an issue is found, if the page in question does not require one to be logged in, it makes it so much easier when the page address, as well as identification of the troublesome element, is offered.   I thank you again for having been so explicit in doing both.  It made actually helping you possible.  

It's also sometimes possible, like this time, to make sense of what's going on if the page source code is provided in those instances where the page is one after a point where you've logged in.  Page source code does not contain any of the information you've entered on a form, for instance, but is the HTML code used to present that page to you, the end user.  If that simmarket.com "Your Account" control had been behind a login, you could still use your web browser's Show Source command to have the HTML source code for the page opened up in a different tab.  If that's then copied and pasted into an MS-Word document, and you can identify the control label where you're getting stuck, if that can be found and the object type deciphered there might be a workaround.  By the way, in Chromium-based browsers the Show source keyboard shortcut for the web page you're viewing is CTRL+U, and you cannot have focus in a text box or other control when you issue that command.  CTRL+U also works in Firefox.  A web search on "show page source" with the name of the browser you're using, if it's not one already mentioned, should turn up the keyboard shortcut for that given browser.

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Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

You can use reaper, audacity is free, but I personally do not like it. Reaper is about $60 but you get multi ck, midi support and it's very accessible with the osara scripts that have ben written for NVDA.

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On 2 Apr 2020, at 14:44, Jonathan Nadeau wrote:

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. But I should had wored my question a little different. I should have asked what is the best multi-track recorder for nvda.



On 4/2/2020 5:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yep. I used to use CDEX as a recording tool when I was in class to quickly record, then I would edit and split later, taking out the dead time when I was writing an essay durin class etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

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Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Apr 2020, at 13:32, David Griffith wrote:

 

This is not correct.

CDex has an analogue  recording function  so is perfectly feasible as a recording tool.

Check out the second menu option under Tools – analogue recording where you can set input devices including  choice of microphone and you can also specify sampling rates etc.

 

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 April 2020 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 

 

It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 

 

If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Jonathan Nadeau
 

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. But I should had wored my question a little different. I should have asked what is the best multi-track recorder for nvda.



On 4/2/2020 5:24 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yep. I used to use CDEX as a recording tool when I was in class to quickly record, then I would edit and split later, taking out the dead time when I was writing an essay durin class etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Apr 2020, at 13:32, David Griffith wrote:

 

This is not correct.

CDex has an analogue  recording function  so is perfectly feasible as a recording tool.

Check out the second menu option under Tools – analogue recording where you can set input devices including  choice of microphone and you can also specify sampling rates etc.

 

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 April 2020 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 

 

It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 

 

If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep. I used to use CDEX as a recording tool when I was in class to quickly record, then I would edit and split later, taking out the dead time when I was writing an essay durin class etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Apr 2020, at 13:32, David Griffith wrote:

 

This is not correct.

CDex has an analogue  recording function  so is perfectly feasible as a recording tool.

Check out the second menu option under Tools – analogue recording where you can set input devices including  choice of microphone and you can also specify sampling rates etc.

 

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 April 2020 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 

 

It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 

 

If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Gene
 

I don’t know why it doesn’t have access but it can be used as a portable program.  the installer places shortcuts in various places to let you conveniently run the program.  I don’t remember how it is packaged.  I haven’t installed it for years but if it is offered as a zip program, you can unzip it wherever you want and use it.
 
Or you can try installing it in a different folder.  Does the installer allow you to change the installation folder?
 
Did you also get the Lame encoder?  You need to place the Lame.dll encoder file in the program folder.  I’m not sure I gave the exact name of the file but its very close and Lame is correct.
 
I can send you a presentation on the basics of how to use the program and it may contain a little installation infrmation.  I did it years ago and I don’t remember exactly what I put in it.
 
Gene
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 

Gene,


I downloaded MP3 direct cut and tried to install it on my system.  I downloaded the version for Win 10.  It won't install, it says it doesn't have access to the folder where it wants to install it.  I will have to figure out another place to install it where it will still work.  Or, I may try to figure out how to authorize it.


It sounds good so thanks for suggesting it in an earlier posting.


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 4:13 PM, Gene wrote:
CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 
 
It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 
 
If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 
i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" mailto:nadeau.jon@...
To: mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Gene
 

Yes, it can record, in a very limited way.  You can’t edit, and I don’t think you can do anything but record.  It isn’t a meaningful recommendation to be used as a recording program.  While it technically can record, I don’t classify it as a recording program because its recording function is so limited and because it is used primarily as a ripping program.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 

 

This is not correct.

CDex has an analogue  recording function  so is perfectly feasible as a recording tool.

Check out the second menu option under Tools – analogue recording where you can set input devices including  choice of microphone and you can also specify sampling rates etc.

 

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 April 2020 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 

 

It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 

 

If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Roger Stewart
 

When you run the .exe file to install it, before doing that, make sure you run it as administrator.  This should fix it.

Roger









On 4/2/2020 3:55 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Gene,


I downloaded MP3 direct cut and tried to install it on my system.  I downloaded the version for Win 10.  It won't install, it says it doesn't have access to the folder where it wants to install it.  I will have to figure out another place to install it where it will still work.  Or, I may try to figure out how to authorize it.


It sounds good so thanks for suggesting it in an earlier posting.


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 4:13 PM, Gene wrote:
CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 
 
It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 
 
If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 
i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)



Re: Does nvda work with Microsoft teams?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

On 2/04/2020 9:43 pm, Eilana Benish wrote:

hello everybody

I have installed today Microsoft team app For Windows ten 64 bit

I am working with NVDA 2019.3.1  with vocalizer Expressive addons for NVDA with English and Hebrew voices

the problem I have with Microsoft teams is that when moving between different programs ,and then returning to Microsoft teams app I no longer hear NVDA speech on the Microsoft teems app. NVDA keeps speaking  on windows in all of the programs I use to work with but not on Microsoft teems app. I can see the focus moves between the different elements of the program but no speech .by the way this is happens also with JAWS 2019. Only if I restart my computer and then restart NVDA and then open the Microsoft Teams app ,NVDA works with speech on the app .

Also I have tried to change TTS to the windows one core voice and two other voices  - and the issue still happening.


Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

Dan Beaver
 

Gene,


I downloaded MP3 direct cut and tried to install it on my system.  I downloaded the version for Win 10.  It won't install, it says it doesn't have access to the folder where it wants to install it.  I will have to figure out another place to install it where it will still work.  Or, I may try to figure out how to authorize it.


It sounds good so thanks for suggesting it in an earlier posting.


Dan Beaver

On 4/2/2020 4:13 PM, Gene wrote:
CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 
 
It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 
 
If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda
 
i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: NVDA has Acquired a new, and somewhat annoying Feature

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Brian, if you are really patient with me I would love to work with you on this. I learn step by step and like to write down the steps as I go so I can look it up the next time that process is needed. I went to the link that you sent to me but could not find the right place to sign up to report the bugs with this beta version of Thunderbird. I am on the Eastern time zone and am free for the next hour and a half or otherwise it will have to wait until tomorrow. My evening is packed here until after 10:30 tonight.


Write me at blindangel61@... and I can give you my phone number there if you are able to help.


I am also wondering if there is a way to have the speech say less so maybe the extra information will stop speaking.

I do not want to go back gto the other version of Thunderbird if I have to reset everything again.


Thanks again.


On 4/2/2020 4:28 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Bugzilla is not a program, but a website, much the same in concept as the issue reporting part of GitHub.

On either of those you need to have an account, and you then need to get to the correct project (e.g., Thunderbird or NVDA, respectively) to file a bug report.  I do not have the actual steps memorized, and if someone has a first bug they want to report I would be happy to set up a time were I could remote in to your computer, as well as have a phone call going, where I can walk you through it and document the steps taken.  They vary depending on what system is used to report the bug.

I have wanted to continue my tutorial series on GitHub and reporting issues for NVDA, but I haven't had an issue to report in recent months, and I'm certainly not going to create a "fake issue" to try to document the steps to create an issue.  Same for Firefox or Thunderbird through Bugzilla.
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

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Re: most accessible audio recording software with nvda

David Griffith
 

 

This is not correct.

CDex has an analogue  recording function  so is perfectly feasible as a recording tool.

Check out the second menu option under Tools – analogue recording where you can set input devices including  choice of microphone and you can also specify sampling rates etc.

 

David Griffith

 

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 April 2020 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

CDex is not a recording program.  It is a CD ripping program. 

 

It really isn’t a good idea for people, and I see it when evber such a question is asked, to recommend Goldwave without first knowing what a person wants to do.  Goldwave is not free.  It isn’t expensive unless you don’t have much money and you are on a tight budget, but it does cost something like forty or fifty U.S. dollars. 

 

If you just want to record and edit mp3 files, MP3 Direct Cut is a much better choice.  If you want to record and work with other formats, other programs would be used, MP3 Direct Cut only works with MP3 files but since many people just want to record and edit MP3 files, the way the person wants to use the program needs to be found out before making a recommendation.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda

 

i would recommend gold wave and c dex, as someone else suggested

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Nadeau" <nadeau.jon@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] most accessible audio recording software with nvda


> Greetings list,
>
>
> Please excuse if this isn't the correct list for this question. Using nvda
> what is the most accessible audio recording software? If anyone could aim
> me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. I hope everyone
> is staying safe.
>
>
>
>