Hello,

Has ultra edit become accessible? It never use to work well with screen readers.

Greg Wocher

On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

Hello

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:

Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul

On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

Hello

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:

Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul

Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul

Hi,
What do you mean a hex editor? Are you looking for something that converts RGB, CMY/CMYK, and YIQ color definitions into hex values, or are you looking for a full featured color wheel? Without some programming/math experience, I don't know of any accessible hex editors/color wheels. However, I am working on a hex editor/color wheel, of which a portion will be used in my add-on called Developer toolkit. If you have any specifics you want to talk about, get me off list.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:03 AM Paulius <paulius.leveris@gmail.com <mailto:paulius.leveris@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Apr 13, 2020 5:05 AM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io"
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm not able to update to the latest version of nvda!

Hi

To check what version of NVDA is running, press NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu then press t followed by v to view the NVDA log.  The second line of the log file tells you what NVDA version is currently loaded.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 13 April 2020 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm not able to update to the latest version of nvda!

 

Hi,

If you tell NVDA to remind you later, it will remind you of an update later.

Technical: the following goes into how NVDA update actually takes place (a bit geeky):

The NVDA updater component will check for, download, and apply NVDA updates. This is divided into the following parts:

• Update checker: this component will access NVDA update server and will fetch update information based on certain details about your machine such as Windows version, processor architecture, NVDA version you’ve got and what not.
• The NVDA update check interface that presents the actual update check dialog.
• Update downloader: this component consists of a file transfer agent and the user interface to report download progress.
• NVDA installer: updates NVDA given specific flags.
• Update check timer: a timer that will activate the components above every 24 hours if NVDA is told to check for updates automatically.
• Update check database: a Python-specific data file (a pickle file) that records the last update check timestamp, the update version presented, pending update installer file (if this is such a case) and other settings.

 

When you or NVDA check for updates:

1. NVDA will access its own update server hosted on nvaccess.org.
2. NVDA will pass on information about your NVDA installation such as whether it is an installed copy, Windows version, processor architecture, NVDA version, and if you enabled them, information about current speech synthesizer and braille display in use and other various information used for collecting statistics.
3. NV Access server will then present either a dictionary-like data detailing any updates it finds, the download URL for the update so the update download agent can fetch it, the hash of the update file and other information. Alternatively, NV Access will say nothing (returns empty data), which means there is no update.
4. NVDA will then present the appropriate message (update is ready or no update).
5. If you do choose to download the update, after presenting the donation screen, the update download agent will download the update file, periodically letting NVDA know the transfer progress.
6. If you do decide to be reminded, NVDA will not remind you for a while.
7. After downloading (i.e. transferring) the update file, NVDA will ask if you would like to install now or do it later.
8. If you do choose to install then, the just downloaded NVDA installer will run with special flags, telling it to update NVDA.
9. If you choose to install the update later, it’ll save the downloaded installer to a special folder named “updates” inside user configuration folder and will add an option to exit NVDA dialog, which will let you install NVDA whenever you are ready.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm not able to update to the latest version of nvda!

 

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:11 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

I advise not advertising beta software

Not to mention that the beta won't be picked up by the check for updates feature (NVDA+N,H,C) in a production release.

I can't imagine why NVDA 2019.3 would not pick up on 2019.3.1 unless it was already offered in the last 24 hours and declined.  I seem to recall that if you decline it sets some sort of flag that won't offer the update again until the following day.  If the same flag is also checked by Check for Updates and happens to be set, that might do it.

Joseph, I imagine you might be able to confirm or refute my speculation and if so, please do so.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

 

and, addons documentations addon is not awailable for nvda latest

Hi,

If you tell NVDA to remind you later, it will remind you of an update later.

Technical: the following goes into how NVDA update actually takes place (a bit geeky):

The NVDA updater component will check for, download, and apply NVDA updates. This is divided into the following parts:

• Update checker: this component will access NVDA update server and will fetch update information based on certain details about your machine such as Windows version, processor architecture, NVDA version you’ve got and what not.
• The NVDA update check interface that presents the actual update check dialog.
• Update downloader: this component consists of a file transfer agent and the user interface to report download progress.
• NVDA installer: updates NVDA given specific flags.
• Update check timer: a timer that will activate the components above every 24 hours if NVDA is told to check for updates automatically.
• Update check database: a Python-specific data file (a pickle file) that records the last update check timestamp, the update version presented, pending update installer file (if this is such a case) and other settings.

When you or NVDA check for updates:

1. NVDA will access its own update server hosted on nvaccess.org.
2. NVDA will pass on information about your NVDA installation such as whether it is an installed copy, Windows version, processor architecture, NVDA version, and if you enabled them, information about current speech synthesizer and braille display in use and other various information used for collecting statistics.
3. NV Access server will then present either a dictionary-like data detailing any updates it finds, the download URL for the update so the update download agent can fetch it, the hash of the update file and other information. Alternatively, NV Access will say nothing (returns empty data), which means there is no update.
4. NVDA will then present the appropriate message (update is ready or no update).
5. If you do choose to download the update, after presenting the donation screen, the update download agent will download the update file, periodically letting NVDA know the transfer progress.
6. If you do decide to be reminded, NVDA will not remind you for a while.
7. After downloading (i.e. transferring) the update file, NVDA will ask if you would like to install now or do it later.
8. If you do choose to install then, the just downloaded NVDA installer will run with special flags, telling it to update NVDA.
9. If you choose to install the update later, it’ll save the downloaded installer to a special folder named “updates” inside user configuration folder and will add an option to exit NVDA dialog, which will let you install NVDA whenever you are ready.

Cheers,

Joseph

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 07:11 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

I advise not advertising beta software

Not to mention that the beta won't be picked up by the check for updates feature (NVDA+N,H,C) in a production release.

I can't imagine why NVDA 2019.3 would not pick up on 2019.3.1 unless it was already offered in the last 24 hours and declined.  I seem to recall that if you decline it sets some sort of flag that won't offer the update again until the following day.  If the same flag is also checked by Check for Updates and happens to be set, that might do it.

Joseph, I imagine you might be able to confirm or refute my speculation and if so, please do so.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

Hi,
When installing Server 2016 and later, you'll be offered to install:
* Windows Server year: Server Core (command-line driven, limited GUI,
provides all server features)
* Windows Server year Desktop Experience: Server Core along with full
Windows user interface and feel (best suited for remote access or app server) Once you make a choice, there is no going back without a clean install.
Windows Server is useful if you need to create and manage a domain or need to become familiar with Windows Server technologies such as Windows Server Update Services (WSUS), Active Directory (Domain Services, Certificate Services, domain controller management, rights management and many others), System Center suite (Configuration Manager, Virtual Machine Manager, etc.), server-side Hyper-V, Windows Server containers, and in case of one variant, server-side cloud infrastructure (Nano Server, only available to businesses through Software Assurance which isn't cheap (thousands of dollars)). A base Windows Server 2019 Standard license costs at least 800 dollars, and Windows Server 2019 Datacenter costs at least 3000 dollars; more users and devices managed by a server means more costs (called Client Access Licenses or CAL's). As I said, if you want to learn to manage Active Directory or need to use Windows Server technologies in a job setting, I advise staying away from Windows Server.
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. I use Windows Server Insider Preview builds when I need to test next Windows 10 LTSC builds, which is rare.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows server os

Hmmm that is what I had been advised to joseph.

Its just that that coppy has been sitting on the shelf for ages at 41 dollars and I have been tempted to buy it several times but from my local tech its not worth it.

I will look at server 2019 or 2016 then.

Hmmm so its better to get server with a desktop experience.

I can see server for a number of cores, where would I get server with desktop or is that just one of the options.



On 13/04/2020 6:32 pm, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
You'll need sighted assistance to install it (install Desktop Experience, not Server Core), and after that, you'll need to enable Windows Audio service (set to start automatically). It would be much better to get Server 2016 or later, but...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows server os

Hi all.

I am not sure if this should fit here or on win10 list but here goes.

I am in a position where I can obtain from one of my computer shops the last clearance coppy of windows server 2012 for about 40 dollars.

Usually windows server is 200-500 bucks and up depending on cores and what its for, etc.

Is it worth me getting something like this.

I will most likely be using this thing at home, maybe not in a broad business things,.

I want to experiment with things like a wsus server, and maybe some sort of media server.

I also want to have a play about.

Question, is it worth it or am I shooting myself in the foot by getting somthing this old.

I know that to install it I may need assistance, however is it accessible for blind users once up and running.

I assume it will have narator and I will have nvda on it.

Hi,
When installing Server 2016 and later, you'll be offered to install:
* Windows Server year: Server Core (command-line driven, limited GUI, provides all server features)
* Windows Server year Desktop Experience: Server Core along with full Windows user interface and feel (best suited for remote access or app server)
Once you make a choice, there is no going back without a clean install.
Windows Server is useful if you need to create and manage a domain or need to become familiar with Windows Server technologies such as Windows Server Update Services (WSUS), Active Directory (Domain Services, Certificate Services, domain controller management, rights management and many others), System Center suite (Configuration Manager, Virtual Machine Manager, etc.), server-side Hyper-V, Windows Server containers, and in case of one variant, server-side cloud infrastructure (Nano Server, only available to businesses through Software Assurance which isn't cheap (thousands of dollars)). A base Windows Server 2019 Standard license costs at least 800 dollars, and Windows Server 2019 Datacenter costs at least 3000 dollars; more users and devices managed by a server means more costs (called Client Access Licenses or CAL's). As I said, if you want to learn to manage Active Directory or need to use Windows Server technologies in a job setting, I advise staying away from Windows Server.
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. I use Windows Server Insider Preview builds when I need to test next Windows 10 LTSC builds, which is rare.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows server os

Hmmm that is what I had been advised to joseph.

Its just that that coppy has been sitting on the shelf for ages at 41 dollars and I have been tempted to buy it several times but from my local tech its not worth it.

I will look at server 2019 or 2016 then.

Hmmm so its better to get server with a desktop experience.

I can see server for a number of cores, where would I get server with desktop or is that just one of the options.



On 13/04/2020 6:32 pm, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
You'll need sighted assistance to install it (install Desktop Experience, not Server Core), and after that, you'll need to enable Windows Audio service (set to start automatically). It would be much better to get Server 2016 or later, but...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows server os

Hi all.

I am not sure if this should fit here or on win10 list but here goes.

I am in a position where I can obtain from one of my computer shops the last clearance coppy of windows server 2012 for about 40 dollars.

Usually windows server is 200-500 bucks and up depending on cores and what its for, etc.

Is it worth me getting something like this.

I will most likely be using this thing at home, maybe not in a broad business things,.

I want to experiment with things like a wsus server, and maybe some sort of media server.

I also want to have a play about.

Question, is it worth it or am I shooting myself in the foot by getting somthing this old.

I know that to install it I may need assistance, however is it accessible for blind users once up and running.

I assume it will have narator and I will have nvda on it.

Hi,
You'll need sighted assistance to install it (install Desktop Experience, not Server Core), and after that, you'll need to enable Windows Audio service (set to start automatically). It would be much better to get Server 2016 or later, but...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows server os

Hi all.

I am not sure if this should fit here or on win10 list but here goes.

I am in a position where I can obtain from one of my computer shops the last clearance coppy of windows server 2012 for about 40 dollars.

Usually windows server is 200-500 bucks and up depending on cores and what its for, etc.

Is it worth me getting something like this.

I will most likely be using this thing at home, maybe not in a broad business things,.

I want to experiment with things like a wsus server, and maybe some sort of media server.

I also want to have a play about.

Question, is it worth it or am I shooting myself in the foot by getting somthing this old.

I know that to install it I may need assistance, however is it accessible for blind users once up and running.

I assume it will have narator and I will have nvda on it.

Hi,
You'll need sighted assistance to install it (install Desktop Experience, not Server Core), and after that, you'll need to enable Windows Audio service (set to start automatically). It would be much better to get Server 2016 or later, but...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows server os

Hi all.

I am not sure if this should fit here or on win10 list but here goes.

I am in a position where I can obtain from one of my computer shops the last clearance coppy of windows server 2012 for about 40 dollars.

Usually windows server is 200-500 bucks and up depending on cores and what its for, etc.

Is it worth me getting something like this.

I will most likely be using this thing at home, maybe not in a broad business things,.

I want to experiment with things like a wsus server, and maybe some sort of media server.

I also want to have a play about.

Question, is it worth it or am I shooting myself in the foot by getting somthing this old.

I know that to install it I may need assistance, however is it accessible for blind users once up and running.

I assume it will have narator and I will have nvda on it.

Unless you are planning on setting up a network at home I am not sure how it will be a benefit to you.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] windows server os

Hi all.

I am not sure if this should fit here or on win10 list but here goes.

I am in a position where I can obtain from one of my computer shops the last clearance coppy of windows server 2012 for about 40 dollars.

Usually windows server is 200-500 bucks and up depending on cores and what its for, etc.

Is it worth me getting something like this.

I will most likely be using this thing at home, maybe not in a broad business things,.

I want to experiment with things like a wsus server, and maybe some sort of media server.

I also want to have a play about.

Question, is it worth it or am I shooting myself in the foot by getting somthing this old.

I know that to install it I may need assistance, however is it accessible for blind users once up and running.

I assume it will have narator and I will have nvda on it.

Hi all.

I am not sure if this should fit here or on win10 list but here goes.

I am in a position where I can obtain from one of my computer shops the last clearance coppy of windows server 2012 for about 40 dollars.

Usually windows server is 200-500 bucks and up depending on cores and what its for, etc.

Is it worth me getting something like this.

I will most likely be using this thing at home, maybe not in a broad business things,.

I want to experiment with things like a wsus server, and maybe some sort of media server.

I also want to have a play about.

Question, is it worth it or am I shooting myself in the foot by getting somthing this old.

I know that to install it I may need assistance, however is it accessible for blind users once up and running.

I assume it will have narator and I will have nvda on it.