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Re: What is the latest version of NVDA as of 2020-04-13

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Anthony,

You can always check to see if there is an update for NVDA by going to the
NVDA menu, move to Help and arrow up to "Check for Update" and press enter.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 8:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] query

Hi folks

Can anyone tell me which it is the latest version of NVDA please? I'm
running NVDA version 2019.3.1.
Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: What is the latest version of NVDA as of 2020-04-13

 

As Mr. Wolak has already noted, as of today's date, the latest NVDA released version is 2019.3.1

For completeness, here are the two commands you can use to check what version you are currently running and have NVDA check if there's a newer version, and install it.

Check Current Version (About)   NVDA+N,H,A
 
Check for Updates   NVDA+N,H,C
 
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Re: What is the latest version of NVDA as of 2020-04-13

Daniel Wolak <danielwolak97@...>
 

Hi

2019.3.1 is the latest version.

For completeness, you can always check for updates in nvda’s help menu.

 

Daniel

 

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From: anthony borg
Sent: April 13, 2020 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] query

 

Hi folks

Can anyone tell me which it is the latest version of NVDA please? I'm
running NVDA version 2019.3.1.
Thanks in advance

Anthony


 


What is the latest version of NVDA as of 2020-04-13

anthony borg
 

Hi folks

Can anyone tell me which it is the latest version of NVDA please? I'm
running NVDA version 2019.3.1.
Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: Trouble with Microsoft Word

 

Diane,

           If you will use the Reply to Sender link to reply to me privately, and any one of the files doing this is not of a private nature, please attach it and I'll take a look.  Something's very off here, and it may be something very simple, but trying it to see what happens is the best way I can figure things out quickly.

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Trouble with Microsoft Word

Diane
 

I am trying to read text documents with Nvda.  When I open the document, it says, "conversion unknown<"  and it won't opent the document.  Is there a setting or something to fix? I have the latest update.
 
Thanks much.
Diane K.


Re: Tony's enhancement add on.

Tony Malykh
 


So the story goes like this. I wanted my other add-on IndentNav to work in VSCode, but due to some technical difficulties, it turned out to be impossible. So I ended up implementing a VSCode extension by the same name. But there I discovered another problem. I made Alt+Down in that extension  to jump to  the next line with the same indentation  level, but it turns out that NVDA wouldn't automatically read that line, since NVDA is unaware of Alt+DownArrow keystroke and it simply passes it on to the application. So What I wanted to do is to be able to tell NVDA that Alt+DownArrow is a special keystroke in VSCode, and once this keystroke has been pressed, NVDA should wait for the state of VSCode to change and speak the updated state. I called this feature  dynamic keystrokes, since they change the state of application. This could've been implemented as VSCode app module, but I wanted to make it universal, since I saw some other potential uses. For example, in Notepad++ when you press F2 to jump to the next bookmark, same thing, you probably want to announce the new line the cursor just jumped to automatically. This is I believed is already solved by Notepad++ add-on, but this wasn't the case back when I conceived this feature. Another example is debuggin in Eclipse: there are many keystrokes, like F7, F8 that end up moving current line in the file and I just wanted this to be announced automatically. Hope this explains this feature better.
--Tony

On 4/12/2020 3:50 AM, William Wong wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for the addon.


Regarding the function description, I would like a more detailed explainnation on the following part:

Dynamic keystrokes


I dont understand what Dynamic keystrokes is for or how does it work. Could anyone explain that to me?

Thanks.

William




Robert Kingett 於 2/4/2020 6:31 寫道:

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This was just posted on the community add ons site so I thought that I would share it here.

random aside, The mods can add the NV Access and NVDA community add on RSS feeds to this group if they wish, but below is the page.

This add on has a lot of enhancements bundled into 1 add on so it would be best to just read the add on description.

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/tonysEnhancements.en.html

• Authors: Tony Malykh

• Download stable version

• NVDA compatibility: 2019.3

This add-on contains a number of small improvements to NVDA screen reader, each of them too small to deserve a separate add-on.

This add-on is only compatible with NVDA versions 2019.3 and above.

Enhanced table navigation commands

• Control+Alt+Home/End - jump to the first/last column in the table. • Control+Alt+PageUp/PageDown - jump to the first/last row in the table. • NVDA+Control+digit - jump to 1st/2nd/3rd/... 10th column in the table. • NVDA+Alt+digit - jump to 1st/2nd/3rd/... 10th row in the table. • NVDA+Shift+DownArrow - read current column in the table starting from current cell down.

Dynamic keystrokes

You can assign certain keystrokes to be dynamic. After issuing such a keystroke, NVDA will be checking currently focused window for any updates and if the line is updated, NVDA will speak it automatically. For example, certain keystrokes in text editors should be marked dynamic, such as Jump to bookmark, jump to another line and debugging keystrokes,such as step into/step over. The format of dynamic keystrokes table is simple: every line contains a rule in the following format: appName keystroke where appName is the name of the application where this keystroke is marked dynamic (or * to b marked dynamic in all applications), andkeystroke is a keystroke in NVDA format, for example, control+alt+shift+pagedown.

Real-time console output

This option is disabled by default and must be enabled in the settings.

This option makes NVDA to speak new lines immediately as they appear in console output, instead of queueing new speech utterances.

There is also an option to beep on command line updates - this would give you a better idea when new lines are printed in the console.

Beep when NVDA is busy

Check this option for NVDA to provide audio feedback when NVDA is busy. NVDA being busy does not necessarily indicate a problem with NVDA, but rather this is a signal to the user that any NVDA commands will not be processed immediately. NVDA volume • NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown - adjust NVDA volume. This option controls the volume of NVDA speech as well as all the other sounds and beeps produced by NVDA. The advantage of this option compared to adjusting volume of a speech synthesizer, is that it affects the volume of all the beeps proportionally. Blocking double insert keystroke In NVDA pressing Insert key twice in a row toggles insert mode in applications. However, sometimes it happens accidentally and it triggers insert mode. Since this is a special keystroke, it cannot be disabled in the settings. This add-on provides a way to block this keyboard shortcut. When double insert is blocked, insert mode can stil be toggled by pressing NVDA+F2 and then Insert. This option is disabled by default and must be enabled in the settings. Last edited Thu Apr 2 07:50:13 2020


Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Jackie
 

Yeah, I haven't finished coffee yet, so I missed you were discussing
online hex editors. Sorry about that. XVI32 is a longstanding player
in the field, though, & w/its drive editing capabilities, should he
feel the need to go that very frightening route, & being free &
accessible besides, hopefully it'll serve his needs. Accessible tools
like these can be really hard for blind programmers to find.

On 4/13/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Jackie,

My search was for ONLINE hex editors.  There's nothing to download.  Also,
the point was that someone else said they knew of a few but didn't have the
URLs for same, and often just seeing them again in a search list will turn
on the light bulb.  That's why I posted it, as there really aren't that many
online ones available.

I agree that one should try to avoid the tedium of download and try to the
extent possible, but in the case of something as esoteric as this, if you're
looking for one that resides on your machine, that's likely going to be part
of the work if no one can identify an accessible one to begin with.  It is a
PITA, but one that all of us, and for accessibility reasons or otherwise,
have had to slog through upon occasion when no one could give a short list.
And if you find yourself having to do this, posting later about what you
found that is accessible is a really, really good thing to do.

Even if you give the online ones a quick try, and identify a couple that are
accessible, posting which ones are is a really, really good thing to do.
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Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

 

Jackie,

          My search was for ONLINE hex editors.  There's nothing to download.  Also, the point was that someone else said they knew of a few but didn't have the URLs for same, and often just seeing them again in a search list will turn on the light bulb.  That's why I posted it, as there really aren't that many online ones available.

          I agree that one should try to avoid the tedium of download and try to the extent possible, but in the case of something as esoteric as this, if you're looking for one that resides on your machine, that's likely going to be part of the work if no one can identify an accessible one to begin with.  It is a PITA, but one that all of us, and for accessibility reasons or otherwise, have had to slog through upon occasion when no one could give a short list.  And if you find yourself having to do this, posting later about what you found that is accessible is a really, really good thing to do.

           Even if you give the online ones a quick try, and identify a couple that are accessible, posting which ones are is a really, really good thing to do.
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Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Jackie
 

Hi, Paul. XVI32 is accessible if memory serves--& sometimes it
actually doesn't. It's also a disk editor.

Brian v, just so you know, often these hex editors don't show the
screenreader the cursor, which is what prompted Paul's question. He's
trying, I'm pretty certain, to avoid the very tedious, time-consuming,
& bandwidth-sucking process of downloading something only to find the
cursor, for him, just isn't there. It's a real pita. So,
unfortunately, search engines aren't much help in this regard. HTH,
gentlemen.

On 4/13/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:37 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:


I have heard of one or two sites which host accessible programs, but I
don't have their names or URLs unfortunately.
Quite likely to be in the list returned by
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=online+hex+editor (
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=online+hex+edito )

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Re: Reading messages list in Mozilla Thunderbird

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:58 AM, Marie wrote:
I somehow missed this part of the procedure.
You didn't miss it, I had described its existence, but mentioned that I never used it.  Tried it out last night and it works like a charm (at least for all my accounts, which are all using IMAP access).

The reason I preached caution, and you may need to go back and rearrange your Sent folder, in particular, is that what you generally want as column order for inbox and any "incoming message box" you might sort/filter things to is different than you want on your Sent folder.  For instance, in any incoming box most of us are interested in the field that our e-mail client uses to show who a message is from (From in the case of Thunderbird, Sender in others).  But in your sent box, since it's you that sent it, the From field is always going to show you, and you don't care about that.  What generally gets shown in Sent is the To field, who you sent it to, which is the important bit on a sent message.

So be aware, that if you do a global change to all your mailboxes based upon your inbox, you will likely need to go back to the Sent box and tweak it, and it alone, to have the columns you want to be looking at, in the order you want them since some of those will not be the same as inbox.
 
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Re: Reading messages list in Mozilla Thunderbird

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

I somehow missed this part of the procedure. I was using Comcast and had trouble with messages not getting through so have now switched to my Gmail account and getting everything at last. Thanks for your patience.
 
Marie
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 7:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading messages list in Mozilla Thunderbird
 
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:41 PM, Marie wrote:
Is there any way to apply the column change to all folders, or do you have to change it in all folders separately?
Yes.  If you look back in the original instructions, I mentioned that when you hit ALT+O to open the list of all Thunderbird columns in Thunderbird itself, beneath that list are two controls:

Restore Column Order  (to Thunderbird Default Order)
Apply Columns To (which I have never used, but it allows you to apply your settings above to other folders in Thunderbird)

After you have your columns arranged exactly as you'd want them to be in all folders, use ALT+O to open the column list and get focus on the Apply columns to control.  Once activated, you are given two suboptions, Folder and Folder and its children.  You will want to use Folder and its children.  When you open this suboption you are then presented with a list of the e-mail inboxes you have (generally your accounts) along with Local folders.  When you select either one of the accounts, that will then open with the account at the top, and all of the subfolders beneath it, allowing you to select individual subfolders if you so choose.  In this case, just select the account at the top of that list and all IMAP subfolders should then be arranged in Thunderbird with the same column order you have arranged for the inbox.  You must go through the Apply columns to control and its suboptions for each account, if you have multiple accounts.  If you also want your local folders, usually only Trash and Outbox, to have that same order you need to do it for them, too.  I would proceed with caution on the Trash and Outbox folders.
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Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

 
Edited

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:37 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
I have heard of one or two sites which host accessible programs, but I don't have their names or URLs unfortunately.
Quite likely to be in the list returned by https://duckduckgo.com/?q=online+hex+editor
 
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Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Christo de Klerk
 

I have heard of one or two sites which host accessible programs, but I don't have their names or URLs unfortunately.

Regards

Christo

On 2020/04/13 05:33pm, Sean wrote:

This is great news. I've been looking for an accessible hex editor for a long time. Thank you.

Do you know a site that lists programs that are accessible in this way?

 

Sean

I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

 

Hi


I have been using it for many years and it is perfectly accessible. Among its many configuration settings there are specific accessibility settings.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2020/04/13 04:24pm, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,

Has ultra edit become accessible? It never use to work well with screen readers.

 

Greg Wocher

 



On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

 

Hello

 

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:

Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul
 
 
 

 

 

 



Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Sean
 

This is great news. I've been looking for an accessible hex editor for a long time. Thank you.

Do you know a site that lists programs that are accessible in this way?

 

Sean

I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

 

Hi


I have been using it for many years and it is perfectly accessible. Among its many configuration settings there are specific accessibility settings.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2020/04/13 04:24pm, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,

Has ultra edit become accessible? It never use to work well with screen readers.

 

Greg Wocher

 



On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

 

Hello

 

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:

Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul
 
 
 

 

 

 


Re: server software in general

 

Gentlemen, I am kindly asking that this topic be shifted to the Chat Subgroup if it is to be extended, along with the other Windows Server specific topic as well.

Neither is NVDA centered in any meaningful way.  The Windows 10 for Screen Readers group would be more directly suited to Windows Server questions.
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Re: server software in general

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

any server will be easier by using the terminal even in windows that is command line or windows power shell commands. ubuntu mate is the easiest to load, set up and use to get going quickly.


Re: windows server os

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

just use ubuntu mate. its free and you can install it without assistance. if you are just using it for a server it will work fine as far as accessibility goes.


Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi

I have been using it for many years and it is perfectly accessible. Among its many configuration settings there are specific accessibility settings.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2020/04/13 04:24pm, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
Has ultra edit become accessible? It never use to work well with screen readers.

Greg Wocher


On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

Hello

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:
Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul







Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
Has ultra edit become accessible? It never use to work well with screen readers.

Greg Wocher


On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

Hello

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:
Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul