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Re: NVDA DAISY structure error

Jonathan COHN
 

EPUB3 is a merging of Daisy and epub. The primary difference is that daisy was distributed as a directory and epub as a zip compressed directory. EPUB also has a mime file that I have never seen in daisy  books, but I think it is fairly standard.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 10:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA DAISY structure error

External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments.

Hi Curtis,

 

I might take you up on that!  Or can I ask what software you use please?  I've been looking for daisy software to try to fix this.  The Daisy Consortium only push ePub now and have abandoned DAISY.

 

So, I guess the other question is what format does everyone read audio books in?  I never even knew that ePub was an audio format until recently, but should I be looking at converting the material to ePub 3 instead?  (We already supply ePub in the electronic text but that is just a text based book, without audio).

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:12 AM Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

If you want, I can do all of this, for I have the software I use to
create books with, give me a link and I can probably fix it in less than
an hour of work or so, easy peezy. I do this every day so it is no great
shakes for me.



Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 4/14/2020 4:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Sorry for the problems, I'm aware of this issue, and I've been trying to
> chase up Glen who recorded the audio version for us, however I haven't
> been able to get hold of him - with the closure of a lot of places and
> changes to work arrangements he might not be getting those messages.
> If you are listening to the MP3 files (not using the Daisy structure)
> then the easiest solution is to renaming the files (rename everything
> before chapter 10 to add a 0 to the start).
>
> Using the daisy version it will require the daisy creation software.  I
> will look into what is involved in that myself now.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:25 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...
> <mailto:kingettr@...>> wrote:
>
>     [Edited Message Follows]
>     [Reason: I clerified some language and gave a hyperlink to the book
>     in the NV Access store.]
>
>     I've been trying to fix this all day and I can't figure out how to
>     fix the book structure errors in the basic training for NVDA audio
>     DAISY version.
>
>     Listening to the book on my stream, After chapter 1, section 1, it
>     jumps to section 10, rather than going to chapter 2.
>
>     For example. After section 1.3. It jumps to chapter 10, and
>     continues on until 16.6, where it goes back to section 2.1 after
>     that chapter.
>
>     I've tried renaming all the files in the daisy book, but it still
>     plays in that strange order. Is there something else I can try to
>     fix this behavior?
>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ <https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/>
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> <https://certification.nvaccess.org/>
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda <https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>



 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Gerardo Corripio
 

Have you tried, for instance, Alt+plus a letter? The same thing happens with me in latest Edge, where the alt key alone doesn’t work. Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:45 p.m., Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> escribió:

Hi Group,

I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.

In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work. I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'

Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?


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Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi

I am using UltraEdit version 10.10B. I believe there are newer updates, but I have not updated it yet. I have used it without any issues with Window-Eyes until Window-Eyes died. Since then I am using it with NVDA. I don't know how well it works with the Shark, but with Window-Eyes and NVDA there have not been any accessibility issues at all.

Kind regards

christo


On 2020/04/15 11:13am, Sean Murphy wrote:
what version of ultra edit are you using?
What screen reader are you also using plus version?

Are used to use ultra edit a few years ago And stop you that because I found the interface not as friendly for JAWS for Windows.  If this has changed I will be definitely looking at it again.

Sean

My experience is the part 

On 13 Apr 2020, at 11:48 pm, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:


Hello

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:
Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul






Ultra Edit issues

Sean Murphy
 

All – Christo

 

I have just installed the demo version of Ultra Edit latest release. The menus work fine with NVDA or Jaws. But I cannot read the code always correctly. Using NVDA, I get 4 of the 8 lines in my test sample. It is HTML code that I am reviewing. What settings does need to be set to get this to work?

 

Sean


Re: NVDA ocr and image describer solution for windows 7 users

Lukasz Golonka <wulfryk1@...>
 

Hello,

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 13:22:53 +0800
"amir din" <mrdin8877@hotmail.my> wrote:

Hi,

for windows 7 users, is there addon for nvda for ocr? I know there was nvda ocr addon by nvaccess, but it is not working in latest version. So any suggestion or alternative? or how to make it works with the latest version?

I've submitted necessary changes to the OCR add-on by NV Access to make
it work with 2019.3.1 and later, however they haven't included them yet.
For now you can download it from: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rFNsIfVk3cFyo-kurTauZEr_DQF5bugs

@Quentin: Would you be able to ask one of the developers from NV Access
to take a look at my pr. This topic comes up from time to time so I
guess there is still an user base for the add-on.


Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Sean Murphy
 

what version of ultra edit are you using?
What screen reader are you also using plus version?

Are used to use ultra edit a few years ago And stop you that because I found the interface not as friendly for JAWS for Windows.  If this has changed I will be definitely looking at it again.

Sean

My experience is the part 

On 13 Apr 2020, at 11:48 pm, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:


Hello

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:
Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul





Re: check boxes dont' work in sim tool kit pro

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I arrowed past the TAF and metar buttons into the sim brief website.
This is where things brake, as they work outside the browser tab with in this browser tab, but in the tab itself, which is not the main app but an applet inside is where things brake. Links cannot be clicked, check boxes cannot be checked, etc. The rest of the app works fine, except for the tabs. I know this is confusing, and i really am having trouble explaining. The developer know it is broken, but he really does not know how to make this work with NVDA, he wants to though.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

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On 14 Apr 2020, at 14:58, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Sarah,

I reviewed large portions of your log even though I only wanted to see the information about the active control you were concerned about. It appears that  after getting into the Sim program, you did quite a bit of navigation by link, header, and form field. Eventually, you arrived on a button called “t” “a” “f” at which point you typed insert f1 whereupon NVDA described all the parameters of that button including that it had a label defined by the developer. This button has a state of pushbutton, which I am not sure if that means hat it has some state or not. In JAWS  pushbuttons usually have a aria-pushed value to indicate if they are in or out. If indeed this TAF button is supposed to have two states, have the developer make sure that aria-pressed is toggled between true and false as appropriate.

HTH!

Jonathan

 


NVDA ocr and image describer solution for windows 7 users

amir din
 

Hi,

for windows 7 users, is there addon for nvda for ocr? I know there was nvda ocr addon by nvaccess, but it is not working in latest version. So any suggestion or alternative? or how to make it works with the latest version?

as for the second one, the image describer, this is not related to windows 7, but the addons for that also wont work with latest version of nvda. Is there alternative? or workaround?

Because, with the ocr addon, i can read hard coded subtitles on videos.


thanks


Re: Tips for a new nvda user

 

hi.
many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i
disagree with most of them!
1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that
its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is
like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!
i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to
use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!
i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the
divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!
2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.
i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as
jaws cursor without need to use numpad!
3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i
disagree about this part too!
iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and
enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and
synthesizers.
i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!
its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice
and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and
2017.3 versions of nvda.
2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!
4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,
because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use
ribbons as they use classic menues!
5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.
but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!
hope that help you and nvda developers.
God bless you!

On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io
<judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi guys,

Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to
get some other points of you as well.

What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA
comfortably on a daily basis?

I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing
evening/day/night.




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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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[nvda-addons] Speech History 2020.1

Adriani Botez
 



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:

Von: James Scholes <james@...>
Datum: 15. April 2020 um 00:58:04 MESZ
An: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda-addons] Speech History 2020.1
Antwort an: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io

Speech History 2020.1 is released, which is compatible with NVDA 2019.3 and 2019.3.1.  It also increases the maximum stored history entries to 500.  It is not compatible with any later version, such as development snapshots.

This will be pushed through Add-On Updater, or you can find it at:
https://github.com/jscholes/nvda-speech-history/releases/download/2020.1/speechHistory-2020.1.nvda-addon

Regards,

James Scholes




Re: NVDA DAISY structure error

Curtis Delzer
 

sure, I use "book wizard creator," from APH, but 2 things: (1) it is antiquated, :) and (2) all of what comes on the CD is not the entire program and those who talk about the software are not that easy to track down any more since it was written and revised in about 2011. :)
If you wish to try it, however, you'd need to communicate with APH.
Honestly, I'll do it with pleasure, just because I enjoy fixing things like that. :)

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@calweb.com

On 4/14/2020 7:48 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Curtis,
I might take you up on that!  Or can I ask what software you use please?  I've been looking for daisy software to try to fix this.  The Daisy Consortium only push ePub now and have abandoned DAISY.
So, I guess the other question is what format does everyone read audio books in?  I never even knew that ePub was an audio format until recently, but should I be looking at converting the material to ePub 3 instead?  (We already supply ePub in the electronic text but that is just a text based book, without audio).
Regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:12 AM Curtis Delzer <curtis@calweb.com <mailto:curtis@calweb.com>> wrote:
If you want, I can do all of this, for I have the software I use to
create books with, give me a link and I can probably fix it in less
than
an hour of work or so, easy peezy. I do this every day so it is no
great
shakes for me.
Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA
curtis@calweb.com <mailto:curtis@calweb.com>
On 4/14/2020 4:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Sorry for the problems, I'm aware of this issue, and I've been
trying to
> chase up Glen who recorded the audio version for us, however I
haven't
> been able to get hold of him - with the closure of a lot of
places and
> changes to work arrangements he might not be getting those messages.
> If you are listening to the MP3 files (not using the Daisy
structure)
> then the easiest solution is to renaming the files (rename
everything
> before chapter 10 to add a 0 to the start).
>
> Using the daisy version it will require the daisy creation
software.  I
> will look into what is involved in that myself now.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:25 AM Robert Kingett
<kingettr@gmail.com <mailto:kingettr@gmail.com>
> <mailto:kingettr@gmail.com <mailto:kingettr@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>     [Edited Message Follows]
>     [Reason: I clerified some language and gave a hyperlink to
the book
>     in the NV Access store.]
>
>     I've been trying to fix this all day and I can't figure out
how to
>     fix the book structure errors in the basic training for NVDA
audio
>     DAISY version.
>
>     Listening to the book on my stream, After chapter 1, section
1, it
>     jumps to section 10, rather than going to chapter 2.
>
>     For example. After section 1.3. It jumps to chapter 10, and
>     continues on until 16.6, where it goes back to section 2.1 after
>     that chapter.
>
>     I've tried renaming all the files in the daisy book, but it still
>     plays in that strange order. Is there something else I can try to
>     fix this behavior?
>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
<http://www.nvaccess.org/ <http://www.nvaccess.org/>>
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
<https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/> <https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
<https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/>>
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
<https://certification.nvaccess.org/>
> <https://certification.nvaccess.org/
<https://certification.nvaccess.org/>>
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
<https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda> <https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
<https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda>>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>>
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess
<https://twitter.com/NVAccess>>
>
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ <https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/>
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ <https://certification.nvaccess.org/>
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda <https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>


Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Sascha Cowley
 

Hi Ron,

I don't have a help button (and using Alt+H doesn't seem to do anything).

But, at least for me, the shortcut for the "Settings and More" button is Alt+F (for foxtrot).


Regards,
Sascha

On 15/04/2020 12:45, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.

In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work.  I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'

Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?


Re: updating NVDA alpha

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Mattias,

You didn't say which version you were using, but I just downloaded alpha-19969,531944a1, installed it, and then checked for updates and it downloaded and updated to the latest alpha-19972,72ee0b9a.

Maybe it was just a temporary glitch?

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:56 AM mattias <mjonsson1986@...> wrote:

Seems litle buggy

I can download updates but everytime i try to update it says

File in use

It has worked fine before

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA DAISY structure error

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Curtis,

I might take you up on that!  Or can I ask what software you use please?  I've been looking for daisy software to try to fix this.  The Daisy Consortium only push ePub now and have abandoned DAISY.

So, I guess the other question is what format does everyone read audio books in?  I never even knew that ePub was an audio format until recently, but should I be looking at converting the material to ePub 3 instead?  (We already supply ePub in the electronic text but that is just a text based book, without audio).

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:12 AM Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:
If you want, I can do all of this, for I have the software I use to
create books with, give me a link and I can probably fix it in less than
an hour of work or so, easy peezy. I do this every day so it is no great
shakes for me.



Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 4/14/2020 4:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Sorry for the problems, I'm aware of this issue, and I've been trying to
> chase up Glen who recorded the audio version for us, however I haven't
> been able to get hold of him - with the closure of a lot of places and
> changes to work arrangements he might not be getting those messages.
> If you are listening to the MP3 files (not using the Daisy structure)
> then the easiest solution is to renaming the files (rename everything
> before chapter 10 to add a 0 to the start).
>
> Using the daisy version it will require the daisy creation software.  I
> will look into what is involved in that myself now.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:25 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...
> <mailto:kingettr@...>> wrote:
>
>     [Edited Message Follows]
>     [Reason: I clerified some language and gave a hyperlink to the book
>     in the NV Access store.]
>
>     I've been trying to fix this all day and I can't figure out how to
>     fix the book structure errors in the basic training for NVDA audio
>     DAISY version.
>
>     Listening to the book on my stream, After chapter 1, section 1, it
>     jumps to section 10, rather than going to chapter 2.
>
>     For example. After section 1.3. It jumps to chapter 10, and
>     continues on until 16.6, where it goes back to section 2.1 after
>     that chapter.
>
>     I've tried renaming all the files in the daisy book, but it still
>     plays in that strange order. Is there something else I can try to
>     fix this behavior?
>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ <https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/>
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> <https://certification.nvaccess.org/>
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda <https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.

In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work.  I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'

Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: How can I get the date from a Braille display?

André-Abush Clause <listes@...>
 

Hi Daniel,

Sorry for the late reply.

With Braille Extender, you have a special command to show hour & date. By default, on Freedom Scientific displays, it's mapped to dots(1+2+5+7)+space.

I'll try to work around the possibility to emulate shortcuts pressed several time quickly.

HTH,

André


Le 09/04/2020 à 16:47, Daniel Gartmann a écrit :

 

Hi all,

 

On a laptop keyboard, I am able to get the date by pressing NVDA F12 twice quickly.

 

On my Freedom Scientific Focus40 Blue, I can’t seem to do two presses quickly of NVDA+F12. The second press of F12 just sends an F12 through and I get the Save As dialog.

 

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

 

Daniel

 


Re: Reading PDFs in Edge Seemingly Broken

Sascha Cowley
 

Hi Gene,

Agreed.

A lot of my work is with non-accessible PDFs that are produced by my university. The way Edge handles them generally works much better. For example, Acrobat will tend to just lump all of the text on one page together, whereas Edge seems to at least try to break it in to paragraphs. And Acrobat's interpretation of mathematical symbols is often very garbled, whereas Edge often seems to correctly represent them to NVDA.


Regards,
Sascha

On 15/04/2020 08:17, Gene wrote:
There is an objective comparison that can be made, however.  For example, unless this has changed in recent versions of Acrobat Reader, it didn’t decolumnize columns in logical reading order properly enough of the time to be a problem.  I don’t work with PDF documents much, but when I have, I have found that decolumnized documents often have information in the wrong place.
 
Using OCR often helps greatly with this problem. Perhaps Edge decolumnizes PDF documents much better.  I hope so.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading PDFs in Edge Seemingly Broken
 
Sascha,

          When it comes to matters of preference, "better" is relative.   If Edge works, and is most pleasant, for you then, by all means, that's what you should use.

           I do not know whether the following works in the stable version of Edge, but in the Dev versions hitting ALT+SHIFT+I will open a feedback mechanism that is dedicated strictly to Edge.  If something has broken that previously worked, I strongly suggest you log feedback.  If that method does not work within Edge, then do so via the Windows 10 Feedback Hub app.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Reading PDFs in Edge Seemingly Broken

Sascha Cowley
 

Hi Ron,

I also find that Edge's presentation of mathematics is better than that in Acrobat. Far from perfect, but it at least seems to accurately represent most symbols, whereas, in my experience, Acrobat will just substitute alphabetic characters for a lot of mathematical or technical symbols.


Regards,
Sascha

On 15/04/2020 11:55, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Sascha,

I agree with you.  The rendering of PDF files from my bank for example, is much better than the latest version of Acrobat Reader.  for once thing, for some reason, every time I load a file directly into Acrobat Reader, I get a blank page with a title 'reader view.'  This is rather new--only beginning with an update of Acrobat Reader some time in 2019, but to dismiss this, pressing escape or control + F4 does not work.  You have to alt + tab away from the program and then alt + tab back to it and then press escape.  Then you get the 'processing, please wait, percentage and then finally the document loads.  After that, the rendering is seldom as clean and structured as in the new Edge browser.


On 4/14/2020 4:58 PM, Sascha Cowley via groups.io wrote:

Hi Brian,

Personally, the only reason I use Edge is to read PDFs. I find that, almost all of the time, the way it interprets them is much better than Acrobat. If you can suggest a better alternative, I'd love to hear about it!


Regards,
Sascha

On 15/04/2020 02:06, Brian Vogel wrote:
For anyone who is of the same opinion I am, and cannot stand dealing with PDFs within browser windows anyway, it is possible to make any browser open them using the system PDF reader you have installed on your system and set as the default.  I never like dealing with PDFs except in a dedicated PDF Editor or reader.  Instructions follow.

Making Chromium-based Browsers (Chrome, Brave, New Edge, etc.) Open PDFs in Your System Reader

  1. Ensure that the PDF Reader of your choosing  is installed on your computer.  Also make sure that it is what is set to handle files with the PDF extension (which it generally is already).
  2. Activate the Menu button (ALT+F), then choose Settings.
  3. What you do now will vary slightly based on the browser.
    1. For Chrome and Brave, in the Privacy and Security pane, select Site Settings.  For Brave you will have to activate the Additional Settings button before the Privacy and Security pane item becomes visible and accessible.
    2. For Edge, simply choose the Site Permissions pane.
  4. Scroll down and select “PDF documents“.
  5. You are now at the toggle that you need to switch to ON.  How it’s labeled varies slightly among the browsers:
    1. Chrome: Download PDF files instead of opening them automatically in Chrome
    2. Edge: Always open PDF files externally
    3. Brave: Download PDF files instead of automatically opening them in Brave

At this point close out of settings to save the changes you’ve made

Now when a PDF file is triggered, it will download via your browser just like any other file.  If you have things set up to go to your Downloads folder, that’s where it will be placed.  If you have the browser set up to ask you where to save it, you’ll get the save dialog.  Once the download is finished, the typical status comes up on the bottom of the screen indicating it’s complete, and giving you options of what to do if you activate the button for that file.  If you select the downloaded PDF file at the bottom of the window, then choose Open, then the file will open in a separate Reader window.  If you also activate the “Always open files of this type” option from then on any PDF file will not only automatically download, but automatically open in the PDF Reader you have set as the default one on your system.

 

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


updating NVDA alpha

mattias
 

Seems litle buggy

I can download updates but everytime i try to update it says

File in use

It has worked fine before

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 


Re: Reading PDFs in Edge Seemingly Broken

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Sascha,

I agree with you.  The rendering of PDF files from my bank for example, is much better than the latest version of Acrobat Reader.  for once thing, for some reason, every time I load a file directly into Acrobat Reader, I get a blank page with a title 'reader view.'  This is rather new--only beginning with an update of Acrobat Reader some time in 2019, but to dismiss this, pressing escape or control + F4 does not work.  You have to alt + tab away from the program and then alt + tab back to it and then press escape.  Then you get the 'processing, please wait, percentage and then finally the document loads.  After that, the rendering is seldom as clean and structured as in the new Edge browser.


On 4/14/2020 4:58 PM, Sascha Cowley via groups.io wrote:

Hi Brian,

Personally, the only reason I use Edge is to read PDFs. I find that, almost all of the time, the way it interprets them is much better than Acrobat. If you can suggest a better alternative, I'd love to hear about it!


Regards,
Sascha

On 15/04/2020 02:06, Brian Vogel wrote:
For anyone who is of the same opinion I am, and cannot stand dealing with PDFs within browser windows anyway, it is possible to make any browser open them using the system PDF reader you have installed on your system and set as the default.  I never like dealing with PDFs except in a dedicated PDF Editor or reader.  Instructions follow.

Making Chromium-based Browsers (Chrome, Brave, New Edge, etc.) Open PDFs in Your System Reader

  1. Ensure that the PDF Reader of your choosing  is installed on your computer.  Also make sure that it is what is set to handle files with the PDF extension (which it generally is already).
  2. Activate the Menu button (ALT+F), then choose Settings.
  3. What you do now will vary slightly based on the browser.
    1. For Chrome and Brave, in the Privacy and Security pane, select Site Settings.  For Brave you will have to activate the Additional Settings button before the Privacy and Security pane item becomes visible and accessible.
    2. For Edge, simply choose the Site Permissions pane.
  4. Scroll down and select “PDF documents“.
  5. You are now at the toggle that you need to switch to ON.  How it’s labeled varies slightly among the browsers:
    1. Chrome: Download PDF files instead of opening them automatically in Chrome
    2. Edge: Always open PDF files externally
    3. Brave: Download PDF files instead of automatically opening them in Brave

At this point close out of settings to save the changes you’ve made

Now when a PDF file is triggered, it will download via your browser just like any other file.  If you have things set up to go to your Downloads folder, that’s where it will be placed.  If you have the browser set up to ask you where to save it, you’ll get the save dialog.  Once the download is finished, the typical status comes up on the bottom of the screen indicating it’s complete, and giving you options of what to do if you activate the button for that file.  If you select the downloaded PDF file at the bottom of the window, then choose Open, then the file will open in a separate Reader window.  If you also activate the “Always open files of this type” option from then on any PDF file will not only automatically download, but automatically open in the PDF Reader you have set as the default one on your system.

 

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

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