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Re: Tips for a new nvda user

Arlene
 

Has anybody like you asked the developers of NVDA  to fix your persion speech for you so you can upgrade to windows ten if you have to? I’m sure there are other people who use persion as well. I thought they  would have updated it. Then you would not have to stay on 17.3

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: April 14, 2020 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tips for a new nvda user

 

hi.

many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i

disagree with most of them!

1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that

its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is

like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!

i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to

use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!

i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the

divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!

2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.

i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as

jaws cursor without need to use numpad!

3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i

disagree about this part too!

iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and

enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and

synthesizers.

i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!

its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice

and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and

2017.3 versions of nvda.

2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!

4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,

because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use

ribbons as they use classic menues!

5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.

but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!

hope that help you and nvda developers.

God bless you!

 

On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io

<judithp1997@...> wrote:

> Hi guys,

> Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to

> get some other points of you as well.

> What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA

> comfortably on a daily basis?

> I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing

> evening/day/night.

>

 

 

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Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

JM Casey
 

Alt key alone doesn't work in a lot of modern probgrammes including, I think, chrome...modern programmes do not really have a "menu bar" as such so the alt key by itself does nothing, rather than take you there as it does in old windows programmes that have the traditional bar at the top of the window.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: April 15, 2020 7:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Have you tried, for instance, Alt+plus a letter? The same thing happens with me in latest Edge, where the alt key alone doesn’t work. Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:45 p.m., Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> escribió:

Hi Group,

I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.

In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work. I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'

Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?


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Re: Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3

 

Hi,
All I can say is that 1.1 was prepared but not distributed widely due to events beyond our control. Also, I hereby announce that I'm stepping down from maintaining DictationBridge add-on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3

Hi all,

Just wanted to point out that the version downloadable from the DB website is still incompatibel with 2019.3. Found the link to the addon's version 1.1 from the DB discussion e-group:
https://github.com/dictationbridge/dictationBridge/releases/download/1.1beta/DictationBridge-1.1beta1.nvda-addon.
I will be trying this out myself, but I would note that this is a Beta build. I would let Joseph, the maintainer of this addon I believe, to make further comments, if any.

Thanks.

On 2/12/20, Justin Harford <jharford@miusa.org> wrote:
Thank you Joseph.

Regards
Justin
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Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
132 E Broadway Suite 343
Eugene OR 97401
541-343-1284 (voice)
jharford@miusa.org (email)




On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:07 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

I expect 1.1 link will show up soon.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Justin Harford
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3



Hi Joseph

It looks like I have version 1.01, the version which you get when you
click the download link. Where can I find version 1.1? Should I plan
on the dictation bridge add-on phasing out in the next year?

Regards
Justin

Justin Harford

program Coordinator (NCDE)

Mobility International USA (MIUSA)

132 E Broadway Suite 343

Eugene OR 97401

541-343-1284 (voice)

jharford@miusa.org (email)









On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 5:17 PM Joseph Lee
<joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

I am one of the developers of DictationBridge (although soon I’ll be
letting this add-on go). Version 1.1 of DictationBridge is compatible
with NVDA 2019.3.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 5:04 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3



Someone asked about this just this morning on the Chat Subgroup. See:



Current status of Dictation Bridge?
<https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat/topic/current_status_of_dictation/7114
2502?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,71142502>

Your best bet is to contact the developers via the Github page.
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Re: Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3

Bhavya shah
 

Hi all,

Just wanted to point out that the version downloadable from the DB
website is still incompatibel with 2019.3. Found the link to the
addon's version 1.1 from the DB discussion e-group:
https://github.com/dictationbridge/dictationBridge/releases/download/1.1beta/DictationBridge-1.1beta1.nvda-addon.
I will be trying this out myself, but I would note that this is a Beta
build. I would let Joseph, the maintainer of this addon I believe, to
make further comments, if any.

Thanks.

On 2/12/20, Justin Harford <jharford@miusa.org> wrote:
Thank you Joseph.

Regards
Justin
Justin Harford
program Coordinator (NCDE)
Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
132 E Broadway Suite 343
Eugene OR 97401
541-343-1284 (voice)
jharford@miusa.org (email)




On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:07 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

I expect 1.1 link will show up soon.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Justin
Harford
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3



Hi Joseph

It looks like I have version 1.01, the version which you get when you
click the download link. Where can I find version 1.1? Should I plan on
the
dictation bridge add-on phasing out in the next year?

Regards
Justin

Justin Harford

program Coordinator (NCDE)

Mobility International USA (MIUSA)

132 E Broadway Suite 343

Eugene OR 97401

541-343-1284 (voice)

jharford@miusa.org (email)









On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 5:17 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

I am one of the developers of DictationBridge (although soon I’ll be
letting this add-on go). Version 1.1 of DictationBridge is compatible
with
NVDA 2019.3.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 5:04 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3



Someone asked about this just this morning on the Chat Subgroup. See:



Current status of Dictation Bridge?
<https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat/topic/current_status_of_dictation/71142502?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,71142502>

Your best bet is to contact the developers via the Github page.
--

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*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna









--
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/


Re: Ocr with nvda.

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Quentin, thank you so very much. I learn so much from this list. I had no idea that OCR was available with Windows 10 as I only learn as I go. I will definitely be trying this out the next time I receive an image PDF file via an email.


Again, thank you so much.



On 4/14/2020 3:07 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
If you are using the add-on (because you are using Windows 7 or 8) then you use object navigation, if you are using the inbuilt OCR (as covered in the user guide) then once you have recognised the text, you can use your regular navigation and reading keys.

Basically, navigate to the object in question - a graphic on a webpage, or open a PDF which is inaccessible, etc. Next press NVDA+R (the NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK depending on your settings) then use your regular reading and navigation keys to read the result (eg arrows or NVDA+down arrow / NVDA+A to read all). When done, press ESCAPE.

I wrote a piece for our In-process blog awhile ago which has exact steps and an image to practice on if that helps: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-5th-october-2017/  (it also covers both the add-on and the in-built Windows 10 OCR).

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:47 PM Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono <tyasetarabita@...> wrote:
Then how to move by object navigation? N is this add on not up to date?

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 12:57 zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
from nvda user guide:

9. Content Recognition
When authors don't provide sufficient information for a screen reader
user to determine the content of something, various tools can be used
to attempt to recognize the content from an image. NVDA supports the
optical character recognition (OCR) functionality built into Windows
10 to recognize text from images. Additional content recognizers can
be provided in NVDA add-ons.
When you use a content recognition command, NVDA recognizes content
from the current navigator object. By default, the navigator object
follows the system focus or browse mode cursor, so you can usually
just move the focus or browse mode cursor where desired. For example,
if you move the browse mode cursor to a graphic, recognition will
recognize content from the graphic by default. However, you may wish
to use object navigation directly to, for example, recognize the
content of an entire application window.
Once recognition is complete, the result will be presented in a
document similar to browse mode, allowing you to read the information
with cursor keys, etc. Pressing enter or space will activate (normally
click) the text at the cursor if possible. Pressing escape dismisses
the recognition result.
9.1. Windows 10 OCR
Windows 10 includes OCR for many languages. NVDA can use this to
recognize text from images or inaccessible applications.
You can set the language to use for text recognition in the Windows 10
OCR settings dialog. Additional languages can be installed by opening
the Start menu, choosing Settings, selecting Time & Language -> Region
& Language and then choosing Add a language.
To recognize the text in the current navigator object using Windows 10
OCR, press NVDA+r.

On 4/14/20, Emmanuel Junaid <emmanueljunaidh@...> wrote:
> Please, how can I perform OCR with NVDA?
>
>
>
>


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Re: check boxes dont' work in sim tool kit pro

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't know. I can see the controls, I can hit l to get to them at times. But I cannot interact with them. It's very strange. Can someone join the discord who knows more about this than I do? Maybe if you two work together he can come up with a way. He really does want to fix this. You can just hit the discord button from the app itself. You do not need a sim to use the program, just add the simbrief tab and you should be oK. Or choose one of the other ones. You will see what I mean.

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On 15 Apr 2020, at 6:28, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Not sure how they developed this, but frames is what are usually done to incorporate one web page within another in such a way that they can’t interact with them directly. It almost sounds like the SIM developer is doing something similar to screen sharing functions for the browser within the browser. This can’t work for NVDA because the entire shared screen shows up as one control, unless you use NVDA remote to parse the fields on the remote screen.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 2:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] check boxes dont' work in sim tool kit pro

External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments.

Actually I arrowed past the TAF and metar buttons into the sim brief website.
This is where things brake, as they work outside the browser tab with in this browser tab, but in the tab itself, which is not the main app but an applet inside is where things brake. Links cannot be clicked, check boxes cannot be checked, etc. The rest of the app works fine, except for the tabs. I know this is confusing, and i really am having trouble explaining. The developer know it is broken, but he really does not know how to make this work with NVDA, he wants to though.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 14 Apr 2020, at 14:58, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Sarah,

I reviewed large portions of your log even though I only wanted to see the information about the active control you were concerned about. It appears that  after getting into the Sim program, you did quite a bit of navigation by link, header, and form field. Eventually, you arrived on a button called “t” “a” “f” at which point you typed insert f1 whereupon NVDA described all the parameters of that button including that it had a label defined by the developer. This button has a state of pushbutton, which I am not sure if that means hat it has some state or not. In JAWS  pushbuttons usually have a aria-pushed value to indicate if they are in or out. If indeed this TAF button is supposed to have two states, have the developer make sure that aria-pressed is toggled between true and false as appropriate.

HTH!

Jonathan

 


Re: New NVDA sounds

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Savas
Sent: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 19:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New NVDA sounds

Hello everyone,

some years ago the sounds of NVDA should have been renewed, but were discarded.

Do any of you still have these sounds and could you send them to me?

Thank you very much in advance and best regards Ali


The latest version of Google Chrome

Dejan Ristic
 

Hi to all of you!


Just to inform you that Google chrome reads PDF documents again.


Thank you,


Cheers,


Dejan


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Re: Tips for a new nvda user

Judith Pelaez <judithp1997@...>
 

Thanks! That was actually very helpful!

On Apr 15, 2020, at 12:37 AM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi.
many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i
disagree with most of them!
1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that
its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is
like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!
i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to
use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!
i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the
divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!
2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.
i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as
jaws cursor without need to use numpad!
3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i
disagree about this part too!
iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and
enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and
synthesizers.
i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!
its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice
and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and
2017.3 versions of nvda.
2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!
4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,
because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use
ribbons as they use classic menues!
5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.
but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!
hope that help you and nvda developers.
God bless you!

On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io
<judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi guys,

Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to
get some other points of you as well.

What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA
comfortably on a daily basis?

I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing
evening/day/night.




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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



New NVDA sounds

Ali Savas
 

Hello everyone,

some years ago the sounds of NVDA should have been renewed, but were
discarded.

Do any of you still have these sounds and could you send them to me?

Thank you very much in advance and best regards
Ali


Re: Reading PDFs in Edge Seemingly Broken

Sarah k Alawami
 

Agreed. I read my flight schedules in pdf and most of the time it renders fine in edge and brave. So here's hopign this is fixed so I don't have to do any quirky things just to get my paperwork read. Ok, this is fake, but reading my schjedule so I knowwhere Im going is kind of important. Lol!

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to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

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On 14 Apr 2020, at 19:15, Sascha Cowley via groups.io wrote:

Hi Ron,

I also find that Edge's presentation of mathematics is better than that in Acrobat. Far from perfect, but it at least seems to accurately represent most symbols, whereas, in my experience, Acrobat will just substitute alphabetic characters for a lot of mathematical or technical symbols.


Regards,
Sascha

On 15/04/2020 11:55, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Sascha,

I agree with you.  The rendering of PDF files from my bank for example, is much better than the latest version of Acrobat Reader.  for once thing, for some reason, every time I load a file directly into Acrobat Reader, I get a blank page with a title 'reader view.'  This is rather new--only beginning with an update of Acrobat Reader some time in 2019, but to dismiss this, pressing escape or control + F4 does not work.  You have to alt + tab away from the program and then alt + tab back to it and then press escape.  Then you get the 'processing, please wait, percentage and then finally the document loads.  After that, the rendering is seldom as clean and structured as in the new Edge browser.


On 4/14/2020 4:58 PM, Sascha Cowley via groups.io wrote:

Hi Brian,

Personally, the only reason I use Edge is to read PDFs. I find that, almost all of the time, the way it interprets them is much better than Acrobat. If you can suggest a better alternative, I'd love to hear about it!


Regards,
Sascha

On 15/04/2020 02:06, Brian Vogel wrote:
For anyone who is of the same opinion I am, and cannot stand dealing with PDFs within browser windows anyway, it is possible to make any browser open them using the system PDF reader you have installed on your system and set as the default.  I never like dealing with PDFs except in a dedicated PDF Editor or reader.  Instructions follow.

Making Chromium-based Browsers (Chrome, Brave, New Edge, etc.) Open PDFs in Your System Reader

  1. Ensure that the PDF Reader of your choosing  is installed on your computer.  Also make sure that it is what is set to handle files with the PDF extension (which it generally is already).
  2. Activate the Menu button (ALT+F), then choose Settings.
  3. What you do now will vary slightly based on the browser.
    1. For Chrome and Brave, in the Privacy and Security pane, select Site Settings.  For Brave you will have to activate the Additional Settings button before the Privacy and Security pane item becomes visible and accessible.
    2. For Edge, simply choose the Site Permissions pane.
  4. Scroll down and select “PDF documents“.
  5. You are now at the toggle that you need to switch to ON.  How it’s labeled varies slightly among the browsers:
    1. Chrome: Download PDF files instead of opening them automatically in Chrome
    2. Edge: Always open PDF files externally
    3. Brave: Download PDF files instead of automatically opening them in Brave

At this point close out of settings to save the changes you’ve made

Now when a PDF file is triggered, it will download via your browser just like any other file.  If you have things set up to go to your Downloads folder, that’s where it will be placed.  If you have the browser set up to ask you where to save it, you’ll get the save dialog.  Once the download is finished, the typical status comes up on the bottom of the screen indicating it’s complete, and giving you options of what to do if you activate the button for that file.  If you select the downloaded PDF file at the bottom of the window, then choose Open, then the file will open in a separate Reader window.  If you also activate the “Always open files of this type” option from then on any PDF file will not only automatically download, but automatically open in the PDF Reader you have set as the default one on your system.

 

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Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Christo de Klerk
 

Sean

Unless this has changed, look under the Advanced menu, the Configuration option which exposes a huge list of configuration settings. Move down to Advanced/Problem solving, then to Enable old style (Pre-V9) toolbars and menus (quicker load times and more compatible with some screen readers) and turn it on with the Spacebar. See if that might fix the issue. They have always made provision for accessibility, so I would think there should be accessibility settings in the newer version also.

Keep well

Christo


On 2020/04/15 04:45pm, Sean Murphy wrote:

christo

 

The latest release is very different than the version you are using. The menus have radically changed. I had to turn off colour syntax to get things to read out the edit field correctly. Still playing with the settings.

 

Sean

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2020 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

 

Hi

 

I am using UltraEdit version 10.10B. I believe there are newer updates, but I have not updated it yet. I have used it without any issues with Window-Eyes until Window-Eyes died. Since then I am using it with NVDA. I don't know how well it works with the Shark, but with Window-Eyes and NVDA there have not been any accessibility issues at all.

 

Kind regards


christo

 

 

On 2020/04/15 11:13am, Sean Murphy wrote:

what version of ultra edit are you using?

What screen reader are you also using plus version?

 

Are used to use ultra edit a few years ago And stop you that because I found the interface not as friendly for JAWS for Windows.  If this has changed I will be definitely looking at it again.

 

Sean

 

My experience is the part 



On 13 Apr 2020, at 11:48 pm, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:



Hello

 

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:

Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul
 
 
 

 

 



Re: Ultra Edit issues

 

If this conversation is to be extended, it belongs on the Chat Subgroup, as it deals with the configuration of Ultra Edit.  And, yes, I know that's so it can be made accessible, but it's still about how to configure Ultra Edit, which is a completely separate issue from NVDA (or any other screen reader for that matter).

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Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Sean Murphy
 

christo

 

The latest release is very different than the version you are using. The menus have radically changed. I had to turn off colour syntax to get things to read out the edit field correctly. Still playing with the settings.

 

Sean

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2020 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

 

Hi

 

I am using UltraEdit version 10.10B. I believe there are newer updates, but I have not updated it yet. I have used it without any issues with Window-Eyes until Window-Eyes died. Since then I am using it with NVDA. I don't know how well it works with the Shark, but with Window-Eyes and NVDA there have not been any accessibility issues at all.

 

Kind regards


christo

 

 

On 2020/04/15 11:13am, Sean Murphy wrote:

what version of ultra edit are you using?

What screen reader are you also using plus version?

 

Are used to use ultra edit a few years ago And stop you that because I found the interface not as friendly for JAWS for Windows.  If this has changed I will be definitely looking at it again.

 

Sean

 

My experience is the part 



On 13 Apr 2020, at 11:48 pm, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:



Hello

 

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 

 

On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:

Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul
 
 
 

 

 


Re: check boxes dont' work in sim tool kit pro

Jonathan COHN
 

Not sure how they developed this, but frames is what are usually done to incorporate one web page within another in such a way that they can’t interact with them directly. It almost sounds like the SIM developer is doing something similar to screen sharing functions for the browser within the browser. This can’t work for NVDA because the entire shared screen shows up as one control, unless you use NVDA remote to parse the fields on the remote screen.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 2:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] check boxes dont' work in sim tool kit pro

External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments.

Actually I arrowed past the TAF and metar buttons into the sim brief website.
This is where things brake, as they work outside the browser tab with in this browser tab, but in the tab itself, which is not the main app but an applet inside is where things brake. Links cannot be clicked, check boxes cannot be checked, etc. The rest of the app works fine, except for the tabs. I know this is confusing, and i really am having trouble explaining. The developer know it is broken, but he really does not know how to make this work with NVDA, he wants to though.

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On 14 Apr 2020, at 14:58, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Sarah,

I reviewed large portions of your log even though I only wanted to see the information about the active control you were concerned about. It appears that  after getting into the Sim program, you did quite a bit of navigation by link, header, and form field. Eventually, you arrived on a button called “t” “a” “f” at which point you typed insert f1 whereupon NVDA described all the parameters of that button including that it had a label defined by the developer. This button has a state of pushbutton, which I am not sure if that means hat it has some state or not. In JAWS  pushbuttons usually have a aria-pushed value to indicate if they are in or out. If indeed this TAF button is supposed to have two states, have the developer make sure that aria-pressed is toggled between true and false as appropriate.

HTH!

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Re: NVDA DAISY structure error

Jonathan COHN
 

EPUB3 is a merging of Daisy and epub. The primary difference is that daisy was distributed as a directory and epub as a zip compressed directory. EPUB also has a mime file that I have never seen in daisy  books, but I think it is fairly standard.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 10:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA DAISY structure error

External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments.

Hi Curtis,

 

I might take you up on that!  Or can I ask what software you use please?  I've been looking for daisy software to try to fix this.  The Daisy Consortium only push ePub now and have abandoned DAISY.

 

So, I guess the other question is what format does everyone read audio books in?  I never even knew that ePub was an audio format until recently, but should I be looking at converting the material to ePub 3 instead?  (We already supply ePub in the electronic text but that is just a text based book, without audio).

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:12 AM Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

If you want, I can do all of this, for I have the software I use to
create books with, give me a link and I can probably fix it in less than
an hour of work or so, easy peezy. I do this every day so it is no great
shakes for me.



Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 4/14/2020 4:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Sorry for the problems, I'm aware of this issue, and I've been trying to
> chase up Glen who recorded the audio version for us, however I haven't
> been able to get hold of him - with the closure of a lot of places and
> changes to work arrangements he might not be getting those messages.
> If you are listening to the MP3 files (not using the Daisy structure)
> then the easiest solution is to renaming the files (rename everything
> before chapter 10 to add a 0 to the start).
>
> Using the daisy version it will require the daisy creation software.  I
> will look into what is involved in that myself now.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:25 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...
> <mailto:kingettr@...>> wrote:
>
>     [Edited Message Follows]
>     [Reason: I clerified some language and gave a hyperlink to the book
>     in the NV Access store.]
>
>     I've been trying to fix this all day and I can't figure out how to
>     fix the book structure errors in the basic training for NVDA audio
>     DAISY version.
>
>     Listening to the book on my stream, After chapter 1, section 1, it
>     jumps to section 10, rather than going to chapter 2.
>
>     For example. After section 1.3. It jumps to chapter 10, and
>     continues on until 16.6, where it goes back to section 2.1 after
>     that chapter.
>
>     I've tried renaming all the files in the daisy book, but it still
>     plays in that strange order. Is there something else I can try to
>     fix this behavior?
>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
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> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda <https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda>
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>



 

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Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Gerardo Corripio
 

Have you tried, for instance, Alt+plus a letter? The same thing happens with me in latest Edge, where the alt key alone doesn’t work. Hope this helps some.

Gera
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El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:45 p.m., Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> escribió:

Hi Group,

I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.

In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work. I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'

Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?


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Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi

I am using UltraEdit version 10.10B. I believe there are newer updates, but I have not updated it yet. I have used it without any issues with Window-Eyes until Window-Eyes died. Since then I am using it with NVDA. I don't know how well it works with the Shark, but with Window-Eyes and NVDA there have not been any accessibility issues at all.

Kind regards

christo


On 2020/04/15 11:13am, Sean Murphy wrote:
what version of ultra edit are you using?
What screen reader are you also using plus version?

Are used to use ultra edit a few years ago And stop you that because I found the interface not as friendly for JAWS for Windows.  If this has changed I will be definitely looking at it again.

Sean

My experience is the part 

On 13 Apr 2020, at 11:48 pm, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:


Hello

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:
Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul






Ultra Edit issues

Sean Murphy
 

All – Christo

 

I have just installed the demo version of Ultra Edit latest release. The menus work fine with NVDA or Jaws. But I cannot read the code always correctly. Using NVDA, I get 4 of the 8 lines in my test sample. It is HTML code that I am reviewing. What settings does need to be set to get this to work?

 

Sean


Re: NVDA ocr and image describer solution for windows 7 users

Lukasz Golonka <wulfryk1@...>
 

Hello,

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 13:22:53 +0800
"amir din" <mrdin8877@hotmail.my> wrote:

Hi,

for windows 7 users, is there addon for nvda for ocr? I know there was nvda ocr addon by nvaccess, but it is not working in latest version. So any suggestion or alternative? or how to make it works with the latest version?

I've submitted necessary changes to the OCR add-on by NV Access to make
it work with 2019.3.1 and later, however they haven't included them yet.
For now you can download it from: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rFNsIfVk3cFyo-kurTauZEr_DQF5bugs

@Quentin: Would you be able to ask one of the developers from NV Access
to take a look at my pr. This topic comes up from time to time so I
guess there is still an user base for the add-on.

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