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Re: List of elements not working in Excel for me

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Petr,


In that, I found that having cells selected when attempting to open the elements list caused a similar problem.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:21 PM Petr Řehák <peersoft@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I am having trouble getting any elements except sheets listed in Excel 365 with NVDA 2019.3.1 when pressing NVDA+F7. The following error message can be found in the NVDA log when trying to list formulas:

ERROR - RPC process 9604 (EXCEL.EXE) (10:26:46.221) - Dummy-12 (14904):

Thread 6160, build\x86\remote\excel.cpp, nvdaInProcUtils_excel_getCellInfos::<lambda_a3c86ee69f81a35a54e78746d987966c>::operator (), 478:

application.range failed. Code -2146827284, rangeAddress '[Hmotnost chlupáčků.xlsx]List1'!$E$4:$F$18,$G$4:$G$19,$E$20:$F$20,$E$21:$G$21,$E$22:$F$22,$G$23,$E$24:$G$25

 

I am also missing the feature to rename the selected sheet in this elements list (sheets are the only thing it can list for me).

My version of Excel is:

Microsoft® Excel® pro Office 365 MSO (16.0.12624.20348) 32bitová verze

 

Best regards,

 

Petr Řehák

 

Odesláno z aplikace Pošta pro Windows 10

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


List of elements not working in Excel for me

Petr Řehák
 

Hi all,

 

I am having trouble getting any elements except sheets listed in Excel 365 with NVDA 2019.3.1 when pressing NVDA+F7. The following error message can be found in the NVDA log when trying to list formulas:

ERROR - RPC process 9604 (EXCEL.EXE) (10:26:46.221) - Dummy-12 (14904):

Thread 6160, build\x86\remote\excel.cpp, nvdaInProcUtils_excel_getCellInfos::<lambda_a3c86ee69f81a35a54e78746d987966c>::operator (), 478:

application.range failed. Code -2146827284, rangeAddress '[Hmotnost chlupáčků.xlsx]List1'!$E$4:$F$18,$G$4:$G$19,$E$20:$F$20,$E$21:$G$21,$E$22:$F$22,$G$23,$E$24:$G$25

 

I am also missing the feature to rename the selected sheet in this elements list (sheets are the only thing it can list for me).

My version of Excel is:

Microsoft® Excel® pro Office 365 MSO (16.0.12624.20348) 32bitová verze

 

Best regards,

 

Petr Řehák

 

Odesláno z aplikace Pošta pro Windows 10

 


Re: New NVDA sounds

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,
Feel free to download them from the link I provided.
The Wav files for NVDA can be found on your system under c:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\Waves

Best regards,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judith Pelaez via groups.io
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. April 2020 10:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds

Hi,

This is so cool!
I would like to have them to you as well if you don’t mind.

Question, how do you install these exactly? Sorry but I have an use this in a very very very long time and When I did, it wasn’t a lot of time.
Thanks!
On Apr 15, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/km6i9ip82q3nkn1/NVDA%20new%20waves.zip?dl=1

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Savas
Sent: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 19:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New NVDA sounds

Hello everyone,

some years ago the sounds of NVDA should have been renewed, but were discarded.

Do any of you still have these sounds and could you send them to me?

Thank you very much in advance and best regards Ali








Re: New NVDA sounds

Judith Pelaez <judithp1997@...>
 

Hi,

This is so cool!
I would like to have them to you as well if you don’t mind.

Question, how do you install these exactly? Sorry but I have an use this in a very very very long time and When I did, it wasn’t a lot of time.
Thanks!

On Apr 15, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/km6i9ip82q3nkn1/NVDA%20new%20waves.zip?dl=1

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Savas
Sent: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 19:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New NVDA sounds

Hello everyone,

some years ago the sounds of NVDA should have been renewed, but were discarded.

Do any of you still have these sounds and could you send them to me?

Thank you very much in advance and best regards Ali








Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Brian,

I tried both these programs as described in your word document.  With System File Checker, the process took about 15 minutes and all I got at the end was the prompt in the administrative window. When I ran DISM, it took also about 15 minutes.  As I write this, it has been sitting for another 15 minutes with the following display.
[26=100.0% 26=]

Then it just now went back to a command prompt with no results.

On 4/15/2020 10:33 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Ron,

           Any time someone starts having "weird issues" with Windows 10 or one of its core components, the first thing I recommend is:  Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Ocr with nvda.

Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono <tyasetarabita@...>
 

Thank you Quentinc


On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 14:07 Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
If you are using the add-on (because you are using Windows 7 or 8) then you use object navigation, if you are using the inbuilt OCR (as covered in the user guide) then once you have recognised the text, you can use your regular navigation and reading keys.

Basically, navigate to the object in question - a graphic on a webpage, or open a PDF which is inaccessible, etc. Next press NVDA+R (the NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK depending on your settings) then use your regular reading and navigation keys to read the result (eg arrows or NVDA+down arrow / NVDA+A to read all). When done, press ESCAPE.

I wrote a piece for our In-process blog awhile ago which has exact steps and an image to practice on if that helps: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-5th-october-2017/  (it also covers both the add-on and the in-built Windows 10 OCR).

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:47 PM Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono <tyasetarabita@...> wrote:
Then how to move by object navigation? N is this add on not up to date?

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 12:57 zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
from nvda user guide:

9. Content Recognition
When authors don't provide sufficient information for a screen reader
user to determine the content of something, various tools can be used
to attempt to recognize the content from an image. NVDA supports the
optical character recognition (OCR) functionality built into Windows
10 to recognize text from images. Additional content recognizers can
be provided in NVDA add-ons.
When you use a content recognition command, NVDA recognizes content
from the current navigator object. By default, the navigator object
follows the system focus or browse mode cursor, so you can usually
just move the focus or browse mode cursor where desired. For example,
if you move the browse mode cursor to a graphic, recognition will
recognize content from the graphic by default. However, you may wish
to use object navigation directly to, for example, recognize the
content of an entire application window.
Once recognition is complete, the result will be presented in a
document similar to browse mode, allowing you to read the information
with cursor keys, etc. Pressing enter or space will activate (normally
click) the text at the cursor if possible. Pressing escape dismisses
the recognition result.
9.1. Windows 10 OCR
Windows 10 includes OCR for many languages. NVDA can use this to
recognize text from images or inaccessible applications.
You can set the language to use for text recognition in the Windows 10
OCR settings dialog. Additional languages can be installed by opening
the Start menu, choosing Settings, selecting Time & Language -> Region
& Language and then choosing Add a language.
To recognize the text in the current navigator object using Windows 10
OCR, press NVDA+r.

On 4/14/20, Emmanuel Junaid <emmanueljunaidh@...> wrote:
> Please, how can I perform OCR with NVDA?
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Tips for a new nvda user

 

using persian plus english US, was one of the features that was
included in espeak ng 1.49.1, but i really dont understand why espeak
developers removed it!
and i know many people like me, cant tolerate uk english accent of
espeak ng, and i dont understand how do they update there nvda
version!
i really cant be without iven3 with american accent.
with it, i can easily read hundreds of pages of english books using SayAll.
but with uk, i get headache and i cant even read one paragraph using
SayAll with uk english!

On 4/16/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Has anybody like you asked the developers of NVDA to fix your persion
speech for you so you can upgrade to windows ten if you have to? I’m sure
there are other people who use persion as well. I thought they would have
updated it. Then you would not have to stay on 17.3



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: April 14, 2020 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tips for a new nvda user



hi.

many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i

disagree with most of them!

1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that

its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is

like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!

i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to

use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!

i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the

divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!

2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.

i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as

jaws cursor without need to use numpad!

3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i

disagree about this part too!

iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and

enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and

synthesizers.

i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!

its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice

and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and

2017.3 versions of nvda.

2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!

4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,

because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use

ribbons as they use classic menues!

5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.

but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!

hope that help you and nvda developers.

God bless you!



On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io

<judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi guys,
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted
to
get some other points of you as well.
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA
comfortably on a daily basis?
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing
evening/day/night.




--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Tips for a new nvda user

 

even 17.2 is very great, windows xp and seven are really great and i
am completely sure that i never use windows ten!
sometimes i use 2017.3 sometimes 2017.2.
2017.3 is very great for the people who can use builtin ocr of windows
ten, but i used it more than one month and did not find any especial
feature or bug fixed for myself.
maybe i am novice and dont need many programs that people use in general.

On 4/16/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Has anybody like you asked the developers of NVDA  to fix your persion
speech for you so you can upgrade to windows ten if you have to? I’m sure
there are other people who use persion as well. I thought they  would have
updated it. Then you would not have to stay on 17.3



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: April 14, 2020 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tips for a new nvda user



hi.

many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i

disagree with most of them!

1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that

its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is

like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!

i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to

use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!

i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the

divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!

2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.

i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as

jaws cursor without need to use numpad!

3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i

disagree about this part too!

iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and

enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and

synthesizers.

i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!

its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice

and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and

2017.3 versions of nvda.

2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!

4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,

because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use

ribbons as they use classic menues!

5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.

but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!

hope that help you and nvda developers.

God bless you!



On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io

<judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi guys,
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted
to
get some other points of you as well.
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA
comfortably on a daily basis?
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing
evening/day/night.




--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: item from the speach dictionary disappears

Suhas Dharwad
 

The default dictionary


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 04:36 Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Which speech dictionary did you add it to?  There are three:

Default: rules in this dictionary affect all speech in NVDA.
Voice: rules in this dictionary affect speech for the synthesizer voice currently being used.
Temporary: rules in this dictionary affect all speech in NVDA, but only for the current session. These rules are temporary and will be lost if NVDA is restarted.


If you add something to the temporary dictionary it will behave as you describe.  If you add something to the other dictionaries they should stay there.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:16 AM help tech accessibility <slrdarjit2002@...> wrote:
hi people,

so, i added this page break symbol which is used to separate pages in notepad,

but, everytime i restart NVDA,
the item in the speach dictionary disappears.

does anyone have a solution for this problem?
thanks.



--
"It is our choices,, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities"
         Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Inam Uddin
 

I have seen several email about this issue, but to me it is working fine!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

 

I saw the message before you answered mine.  I didn’t understand the problem before.  I don’t know what is causing the problem.  This won’t solve the problem but it will give you access to a lot of settings in Edge, assuming it does what it does in Chrome.

In the address bar, type about colon settings and press enter.  My e-mail program doesn’t let me type the syntax properly so I wrote out the colon.  Don’t space anywhere in this address.  The settings page will open.  As for how to actually solve the problem and get access to the menu, I don’t know.  Maybe you could uninstall and reinstall it.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:24 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

 

Hi Gene,

I don't know how much  clearer I can make it. Apparently, I may be the only one having this issue.  As stated in a previous message.  I launch Edge.  I press alt by itself.  I Press alt + F.  I press alt + S.  Nothing happens.  I used to get some new page of settings load with either just the alt Key or the alt + F key.  Now nothing happens.

On 4/15/2020 6:56 PM, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure what the problem is that is being described, but this is evidently a change where what used to work in Edge no longer does. 

 

In Chrome, just pressing alt doesn’t open the menu.  If you hold alt and type f, the menu opens.  But I don’t think this is the problem being discussed, though I’m not sure what is being described that used to work.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:23 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

 

Alt key alone doesn't work in a lot of modern probgrammes including, I think, chrome...modern programmes do not really have a "menu bar" as such so the alt key by itself does nothing, rather than take you there as it does in old windows programmes  that have the traditional bar at the top of the window.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: April 15, 2020 7:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Have you tried, for instance, Alt+plus a letter? The same thing happens with me in latest Edge, where the alt key alone doesn’t work. Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:45 p.m., Ron Canazzi mailto:aa2vm@... escribió:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.
>
> In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work.  I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'
>
> Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?
>
>
> --
> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>
>
>
>







-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Gene
 

I saw the message before you answered mine.  I didn’t understand the problem before.  I don’t know what is causing the problem.  This won’t solve the problem but it will give you access to a lot of settings in Edge, assuming it does what it does in Chrome.
In the address bar, type about colon settings and press enter.  My e-mail program doesn’t let me type the syntax properly so I wrote out the colon.  Don’t space anywhere in this address.  The settings page will open.  As for how to actually solve the problem and get access to the menu, I don’t know.  Maybe you could uninstall and reinstall it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access
 
Hi Gene,

I don't know how much  clearer I can make it. Apparently, I may be the only one having this issue.  As stated in a previous message.  I launch Edge.  I press alt by itself.  I Press alt + F.  I press alt + S.  Nothing happens.  I used to get some new page of settings load with either just the alt Key or the alt + F key.  Now nothing happens.


On 4/15/2020 6:56 PM, Gene wrote:
I’m not sure what the problem is that is being described, but this is evidently a change where what used to work in Edge no longer does. 
 
In Chrome, just pressing alt doesn’t open the menu.  If you hold alt and type f, the menu opens.  But I don’t think this is the problem being discussed, though I’m not sure what is being described that used to work.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access
 
Alt key alone doesn't work in a lot of modern probgrammes including, I think, chrome...modern programmes do not really have a "menu bar" as such so the alt key by itself does nothing, rather than take you there as it does in old windows programmes  that have the traditional bar at the top of the window.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: April 15, 2020 7:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Have you tried, for instance, Alt+plus a letter? The same thing happens with me in latest Edge, where the alt key alone doesn’t work. Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:45 p.m., Ron Canazzi mailto:aa2vm@... escribió:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.
>
> In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work.  I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'
>
> Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?
>
>
> --
> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>
>
>
>







-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

 

Ron,

           Any time someone starts having "weird issues" with Windows 10 or one of its core components, the first thing I recommend is:  Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

I don't know how much  clearer I can make it. Apparently, I may be the only one having this issue.  As stated in a previous message.  I launch Edge.  I press alt by itself.  I Press alt + F.  I press alt + S.  Nothing happens.  I used to get some new page of settings load with either just the alt Key or the alt + F key.  Now nothing happens.


On 4/15/2020 6:56 PM, Gene wrote:
I’m not sure what the problem is that is being described, but this is evidently a change where what used to work in Edge no longer does. 
 
In Chrome, just pressing alt doesn’t open the menu.  If you hold alt and type f, the menu opens.  But I don’t think this is the problem being discussed, though I’m not sure what is being described that used to work.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access
 
Alt key alone doesn't work in a lot of modern probgrammes including, I think, chrome...modern programmes do not really have a "menu bar" as such so the alt key by itself does nothing, rather than take you there as it does in old windows programmes  that have the traditional bar at the top of the window.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: April 15, 2020 7:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Have you tried, for instance, Alt+plus a letter? The same thing happens with me in latest Edge, where the alt key alone doesn’t work. Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:45 p.m., Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> escribió:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.
>
> In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work.  I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'
>
> Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?
>
>
> --
> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>
>
>
>







-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Brian,

I launch Edge.  I press alt by itself. I press Alt + F.  Nothing happens. This is new.  The latest version of Edge causes this on my system.
Any suggestions?


On 4/15/2020 5:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
All of the Chromium-based browsers have never used a conventional menu that one makes display with just ALT.  There is a menu key, which can be activated either by ALT+F or ALT,DownArrow.  

After doing so, what used to be the entire menu structure opens in dropdown with dividers between what had been the separate menus.  I personally like this better.  Virtually every single item on those menus has a shortcut letter or, even better, a full keyboard shortcut such that you never need to invoke the menu.  Here's a list of the most commonly used ones that are common across browsers.  In the case of new Edge, substitute the term Favorites for Bookmarks (and why Microsoft didn't ditch the Favorites terminology I'll never understand):

New Tab CTRL+T
New Window CTRL+N
New Private/Incognito Window CTRL+SHIFT+N
 
History CTRL+H
Open most recently closed tab CTRL+SHIFT+T
 
Bookmark this tab CTRL+D
Bookmark all open tabs CTRL+SHIFT+D
Open Bookmark Manager CTRL+SHIFT+O
Show Bookmarks Bar CTRL+SHIFT+B
 
Open Downloads Manager CTRL+J
 
Print CTRL+P
 
Find (browser find) CTRL+F
 
Settings ALT+F,S  or ALT,DownArrow,S
 
About browser (get version info) ALT+F,A
 
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Stephen
 

I just tried the latest HXD, which I downloaded yesterday, and I am facing a really weird problem.
Not all of the data are visible to screen readers like NVDA and JFW, only bits of it.  For some reason, both JAWS and NVDA think that there are spaces where the hex characters should be.
This didn't happen in the older version of HXD, version 1.7.7.0, it could read every bit of data you arrowed over.
Let's say you've just loaded up a file to edit, and you've got a line of code that reads: AB DD 1B 2D 27 9A.
Both NVDA and jaws have trouble reading the data. 
When using your review cursor, or arrows, you'll see something like:
    DD    2D    9A.
I wonder if there is any way to fix this?

 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...>
Sent: 4/15/2020 9:34:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any accessible hex editors for screen reader users?

Hi

I am using UltraEdit version 10.10B. I believe there are newer updates, but I have not updated it yet. I have used it without any issues with Window-Eyes until Window-Eyes died. Since then I am using it with NVDA. I don't know how well it works with the Shark, but with Window-Eyes and NVDA there have not been any accessibility issues at all.

Kind regards

christo


On 2020/04/15 11:13am, Sean Murphy wrote:
what version of ultra edit are you using?
What screen reader are you also using plus version?

Are used to use ultra edit a few years ago And stop you that because I found the interface not as friendly for JAWS for Windows.  If this has changed I will be definitely looking at it again.

Sean

My experience is the part 

On 13 Apr 2020, at 11:48 pm, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:


Hello

UltraEdit has a very good hex editing feature and many other powerful editing functions. This is a real programmer's or techie's editor. But it is not free. I think it costs around $60. I have it and do things with it that I have not been able to do in other editors I have worked with. Notepad++ comes closest, but it doesn't offer hex editing.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2020/04/13 03:02pm, Paulius wrote:
Hello,
I'm wonderring if there are programs called hex editors designed to be
accessible to screen reader users.
Any recommendations?
Best regards,
Paul






Re: radical change to dropbox

Charles Adkins
 

Wow, I'd love that fix also. I also in radio am working from home and this has been puzling. I can work with it but its one more issue I don't need. I also notice my send to menus on my remote machine has disapeared. I'd like that fix also, thanks. 

Chuck


On Apr 15, 2020, at 6:45 PM, ken lawrence via groups.io <kenlawrence124@...> wrote:



Hi list ken here.  Just now wanting to put a file into our station dropbox got a shocker.  A whole bunch of buttons not the list of folders.  I see the one folder I’m in but a whole bunch of add people the names of the people in it and buttons.  Not folder itself our station manager says it’s a change dropbox has made in the view.  She’s going to email me the quick fix but how does this change impact the NVDA ad on? 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3

 

Hi,

Version 1.1 was uploaded to the source code repo.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3

 

Joseph,

 

Who is working on Dictation Bridge now, and who then has the version 1.1 to distribute?

 

Also, I noticed the "Click here to download the DictationBridge documentation in HTML format as a zip file suitable for importing into Voice Dream Reader" link doesn't work.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:22 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
All I can say is that 1.1 was prepared but not distributed widely due to events beyond our control. Also, I hereby announce that I'm stepping down from maintaining DictationBridge add-on.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3

Hi all,

Just wanted to point out that the version downloadable from the DB website is still incompatibel with 2019.3. Found the link to the addon's version 1.1 from the DB discussion e-group:
https://github.com/dictationbridge/dictationBridge/releases/download/1.1beta/DictationBridge-1.1beta1.nvda-addon.
I will be trying this out myself, but I would note that this is a Beta build. I would let Joseph, the maintainer of this addon I believe, to make further comments, if any.

Thanks.

On 2/12/20, Justin Harford <jharford@...> wrote:
> Thank you Joseph.
>
> Regards
> Justin
> Justin Harford
> program Coordinator (NCDE)
> Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
> 132 E Broadway Suite 343
> Eugene OR 97401
> 541-343-1284 (voice)
> jharford@... (email)
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:07 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I expect 1.1 link will show up soon.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
>> *Justin Harford
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:26 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Joseph
>>
>> It looks like I have version 1.01, the version which you get when you
>> click the download link. Where can I find version 1.1? Should I plan
>> on the dictation bridge add-on phasing out in the next year?
>>
>> Regards
>> Justin
>>
>> Justin Harford
>>
>> program Coordinator (NCDE)
>>
>> Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
>>
>> 132 E Broadway Suite 343
>>
>> Eugene OR 97401
>>
>> 541-343-1284 (voice)
>>
>> jharford@... (email)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 5:17 PM Joseph Lee
>> <joseph.lee22590@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am one of the developers of DictationBridge (although soon I’ll be
>> letting this add-on go). Version 1.1 of DictationBridge is compatible
>> with NVDA 2019.3.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
>> *Brian Vogel
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 5:04 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3
>>
>>
>>
>> Someone asked about this just this morning on the Chat Subgroup.  See:
>>
>>
>>
>> Current status of Dictation Bridge?
>> <https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat/topic/current_status_of_dictation/7114
>> 2502?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,71142502>
>>
>> Your best bet is to contact the developers via the Github page.
>> --
>>
>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
>>
>> *Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*
>>
>>        ~ Madonna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/
E-mail
Address: bhavya.shah125@...
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/






 

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Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3

Quentin Christensen
 

Joseph,

Who is working on Dictation Bridge now, and who then has the version 1.1 to distribute?

Also, I noticed the "Click here to download the DictationBridge documentation in HTML format as a zip file suitable for importing into Voice Dream Reader" link doesn't work.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:22 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
All I can say is that 1.1 was prepared but not distributed widely due to events beyond our control. Also, I hereby announce that I'm stepping down from maintaining DictationBridge add-on.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3

Hi all,

Just wanted to point out that the version downloadable from the DB website is still incompatibel with 2019.3. Found the link to the addon's version 1.1 from the DB discussion e-group:
https://github.com/dictationbridge/dictationBridge/releases/download/1.1beta/DictationBridge-1.1beta1.nvda-addon.
I will be trying this out myself, but I would note that this is a Beta build. I would let Joseph, the maintainer of this addon I believe, to make further comments, if any.

Thanks.

On 2/12/20, Justin Harford <jharford@...> wrote:
> Thank you Joseph.
>
> Regards
> Justin
> Justin Harford
> program Coordinator (NCDE)
> Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
> 132 E Broadway Suite 343
> Eugene OR 97401
> 541-343-1284 (voice)
> jharford@... (email)
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:07 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I expect 1.1 link will show up soon.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
>> *Justin Harford
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 12:26 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Joseph
>>
>> It looks like I have version 1.01, the version which you get when you
>> click the download link. Where can I find version 1.1? Should I plan
>> on the dictation bridge add-on phasing out in the next year?
>>
>> Regards
>> Justin
>>
>> Justin Harford
>>
>> program Coordinator (NCDE)
>>
>> Mobility International USA (MIUSA)
>>
>> 132 E Broadway Suite 343
>>
>> Eugene OR 97401
>>
>> 541-343-1284 (voice)
>>
>> jharford@... (email)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 5:17 PM Joseph Lee
>> <joseph.lee22590@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am one of the developers of DictationBridge (although soon I’ll be
>> letting this add-on go). Version 1.1 of DictationBridge is compatible
>> with NVDA 2019.3.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
>> *Brian Vogel
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2020 5:04 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Dictation bridge and support for 2019.3
>>
>>
>>
>> Someone asked about this just this morning on the Chat Subgroup.  See:
>>
>>
>>
>> Current status of Dictation Bridge?
>> <https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat/topic/current_status_of_dictation/7114
>> 2502?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,71142502>
>>
>> Your best bet is to contact the developers via the Github page.
>> --
>>
>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
>>
>> *Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*
>>
>>        ~ Madonna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/
E-mail
Address: bhavya.shah125@...
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/








--
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Training and Support Manager


Re: item from the speach dictionary disappears

Quentin Christensen
 

Which speech dictionary did you add it to?  There are three:

Default: rules in this dictionary affect all speech in NVDA.
Voice: rules in this dictionary affect speech for the synthesizer voice currently being used.
Temporary: rules in this dictionary affect all speech in NVDA, but only for the current session. These rules are temporary and will be lost if NVDA is restarted.


If you add something to the temporary dictionary it will behave as you describe.  If you add something to the other dictionaries they should stay there.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:16 AM help tech accessibility <slrdarjit2002@...> wrote:
hi people,

so, i added this page break symbol which is used to separate pages in notepad,

but, everytime i restart NVDA,
the item in the speach dictionary disappears.

does anyone have a solution for this problem?
thanks.



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         Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore



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Training and Support Manager


Re: Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Gene
 

I’m not sure what the problem is that is being described, but this is evidently a change where what used to work in Edge no longer does. 
 
In Chrome, just pressing alt doesn’t open the menu.  If you hold alt and type f, the menu opens.  But I don’t think this is the problem being discussed, though I’m not sure what is being described that used to work.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access
 
Alt key alone doesn't work in a lot of modern probgrammes including, I think, chrome...modern programmes do not really have a "menu bar" as such so the alt key by itself does nothing, rather than take you there as it does in old windows programmes  that have the traditional bar at the top of the window.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: April 15, 2020 7:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alt Keys In Edge Not Working For Menu Access

Have you tried, for instance, Alt+plus a letter? The same thing happens with me in latest Edge, where the alt key alone doesn’t work. Hope this helps some.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

> El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:45 p.m., Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> escribió:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I have alluded to this topic in the topic about Edge and PDF files. I thought I would create a new topic so as to get focus more on it. I confess I should have done this a few hours earlier; sorry for the confusion.
>
> In any case, when I went to test Sascha's issue with PDF in Edge VS Acrobat Reader, I found that in the latest version of Edge, that the hotkeys involving with activating menus such as home, settings and such, the hotkeys simply don't work.  I have to use the tab key to move to the tool bar and then activate the buttons with space bar. Oddly enough, when I highlight these buttons, I hear NVDA say: 'settings and more alt + S' and home alt + h.'
>
> Has anyone else noticed this in latest version of Edge?
>
>
> --
> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>
>
>
>