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Re: Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


Be aware that adding an email signature is doable but is also a pain in the neck. It would behoove you to write out your signature starting with stars(*) to separate the message from the signature.
do this in notepad then copy
open mail
tab to settings
arrow down to signature
If you have the necessary boxes checked to add a signature then tab one tab past picture. Note you wil not hear anything.
paste your signature
shift tab to save and enter
Hopefully this will be enough. You won't know until you open a new email and arrow down in the message field to see if it is there.
 
I have been complaining about the lack of accessibility for years with the results you see now.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

Hey, no problem at all.

To be honest, I also kinda needed those shortcuts, so I just searched for them and put them in a word document.

 

Sent from            Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

 

your welcome. its my pleasure to help others.

God bless you all!

 

On 4/18/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

> Judith and Zahra: Thanks for your tips, which were indeed helpful. I will do

> my memorizing then (smile).

> To anybody who might know: Please correct me if I am wrong. It looks as

> though Windows 10 does not offer an overall option that would

> display/announce keyboard shortcuts. I found this quite helpful running

> Windows 7 and a German screen reader, the latter is no longer being

> supported. Having the shortcuts displayed or announced right next to an

> option expedited memorizing. Users could  choose to turn it on or off. Might

> this be a useful toggle to be implemented in NVDA someday?

> Best,

> Cordelia

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra

> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:49 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

> hi.

> i searched in google:

> how to use windows 10 mail?

> hear you are the link. hope that helps.

> https://www.windowscentral.com/how-get-started-mail-app-windows-10

> On 4/18/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

>> Hi:

>> 

>> I am new to using Mail (Windows 10) and cannot seem to find  shortcuts to

>> quickly manage emails. Where do I find them, in settings or anywhere

>> else?

>> 

>> Furthermore, I wonder how to activate the context menu key. It doesn't do

>> anything whereas all other function keys work all right. I was hoping

>> that

>> by using the Context Menu key I could access a menu showing the shortcuts

>> relevant for Mail, for example.

>> 

>> Puzzled,

>> Cordelia

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

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> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

>

 

 

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I would not do it.

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beeps

Eilana Benish
 

hi

I'm trying to understand which of the NVDA addons are playing beeps sounds when something is loading a website or a program running on my computer

Thanks


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Re: New NVDA sounds

Curtis Delzer
 

and also, you'll need to copy the old "waves" which are in the newer NVDA like screen curtain on and off which aren't in these. :)
fun, eh?

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On 4/17/2020 7:57 AM, Gene wrote:
There is a folder called waves.  The new sounds are just other wave files.  They are placed in a folder with the same name in the same location as the old waves file now is.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* brice Mijares <mailto:bmijares33@...>
*Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 8:57 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
I'm running a installed version. They are still in my downloaded folder.
Are you saying they go where all the Windows event wav
  sounds are?
On 4/17/2020 6:45 AM, Gene wrote:
> they were originally supposed to be incorporated into NVDA as a part
> of the program.  There is therefore no explanation of how to replace
> the old files with the new.
> It may depend on whether you are running an installed or a portable
> version of the program, where you would put the files.  I’ll write
> more about the portable version if people are interested in another
> message but you either back up the original waves folder or delete it,
> create another folder called waves and place the files in that or, if
> the download you got has the files already in a folder called waves,
> paste that folder in the same place as the old waves folder was.
> That’s true of both the installed and portable versions but the waves
> folder may be in a different place, I’m not sure.
> To backup the old waves file, change its name to something like waves
> old, that’s all you have to do.  You can leave the folder where it is.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* brice Mijares <mailto:bmijares33@...>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 7:37 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
> I'd also like to know.  There should have been a text file stating what
> to do with them.
>
> On 4/17/2020 5:29 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
> > Hello!
> > How do I install/use these sounds?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Sociohack
> >
>
>
>


Re: how can I set symbol pronounciation for special case?

Tyler Spivey
 

It uses Python's re module. You'll have to read the code which handles the speech dictionaries to figure out how it works.

Why don't you just write an addon to do what you want?


On 4/19/2020 12:31 AM, Samuel Kacer wrote:
Also, does anyone know what particular flavor of regex does NVDA use? I noticed it parentheses are treated differently than I am used to and ^ doesnt seem to match beginning of string.

Like if I have regex ^ foo^foo, it will match foo even if it isnt at beginning of the line.


Re: how can I set symbol pronounciation for special case?

Samuel Kacer
 

Also, does anyone know what particular flavor of regex does NVDA use? I noticed it parentheses are treated differently than I am used to and ^ doesnt seem to match beginning of string.

Like if I have regex ^ foo^foo, it will match foo even if it isnt at beginning of the line.


Re: how can I set symbol pronounciation for special case?

Samuel Kacer
 

Thanks for the replies. I didn't actually notice that speech dictionary supported regular expressions.

So, I've been playing with writing several expressions, but nothing satisfactory yet.

To expand a little on what I want, I am I want it to match on a word that ends in single quote, but not if it is enclosed in single quotes or has a letter following it directly. So cases like 'hello' and don't shouldn't match.

What I've got so far is thanks to your examples and some googling is this:
([\w]+)'

This is good in that it will match on any word, however it doesnt take care of the case when the word is enclosed in single quotes or is inside a word like don't.

I've tried inverted character classes like this:
[^']([\w]+)'[^a-zA-Z]

But, that doesn't seem to do what I would expect.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Sam


using sony soundforge 14 with nvda 2019.3

 

hello every one.
one of my friends told me that she has nvda 2019.3 with sony
soundforge version 14.
nvda does not read many of soundforge settings and checkboxes.
i told her that i ask for you in the nvda mailing list.
she told that she has not issue with jaws in this case.
jaws reads all settings and checkboxes properly.
can you please help?
God bless you.

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Re: strange behavior with Microsoft sapi 5 voices and NVDA

Curtis Delzer
 

you may have to just do a factory reset of your configuration. you won't use your add-ons, but I had that happen with voices I try to use and then go back to sapi 4 which then can't load. When I do that factory reset of configuration settings, it clears up.


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On 4/16/2020 10:42 AM, Tony Ballou wrote:
Houdy folks,
Thanks for coming through for me over the weekend with my friend's computer issue.  The fixes are in place, and everything is as it should be on that score. Now I've got one of my own that's got me baffled. Here's what's going down.
  I had some hardware repairs done on my desktop just before we were all thrown into chaos. Everything was fixed internally and all's gravy on that side of the ledger.  However, there is a strange thing going on with Microsoft's Sapi 5 voices and NVDA that's got me scratching my head.  Please bare with me as I try to explain this because it's a new one on me.
When I initially log on to enter my password, the proper voice that I use which is neospeech Paul comes on as it should. However, now this is where things get dicey. Once past the log on screen the Sapi 5 voices loose all functionality, and I have to switch to the windows one core voices for things to function in somewhat of a proper manner. I've tried all of the tricks that I know to put things right, but nothing works.
I wouldn't normally put up a fuss about it, because I can use the one core voices just fine for most tasks.  however, Some of the games that I play to help keep me sane during this crazy time that we're living in like chess, and cribbage  also use the Microsoft Sapi 5 voices, and they've all been compromised as well. What's happened, and does anyone have a fix for this strange issue? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks much and everyone stay safe.
Tony


Re: how can I set symbol pronounciation for special case?

Sascha Cowley
 

If you wanted to match other alphabetic characters (such as Greek letters), a pattern like this could work: ([^\W\d_])'

On 19/04/2020 08:46, Brian Vogel wrote:
Sascha,

          Yep.  Typo.

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Re: how can I set symbol pronounciation for special case?

 

Sascha,

          Yep.  Typo.

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Re: Some List Infor Please

 

If this is under Windows 10 I would advise you to subscribe to the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group:  win10+subscribe@win10.groups.io 

I know nothing of the group to which you made reference.

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Some List Infor Please

Andrea Sherry
 

There was once a group called WinTips'n'Tricks.
Does this group still exist?
I have a problem witha folder left behind after uninstallation of a program which I cannot remove. Need to check on establishing ownership so that this can be removed.
Andrea


Re: how can I set symbol pronounciation for special case?

Sascha Cowley
 

Hi Brian,

The regular expression should be: ([a-zA-Z])'

That is, the second 'z' should be uppercase. As is, that regex will match anything between uppercase A and lowercase z, which includes things like square brackets.


Regards,
Sascha

On 19/04/2020 03:48, Brian Vogel wrote:
Sam,

          I would do this using the speech dictionary and a regular expression for the item.  If I am safe in assuming that the thing with the prime in front of it will always be a single letter, preceded by a space, and you are not using single quotes to enclose phrases (at least not commonly), then try this:

1. NVDA+P,D,D  to open NVDA Preferences, Speech Dictionaries, Default Dictionary
2. Activate the Add Button
3. In pattern, place the following:  ([a-zA-z])'
4. In replacement, place the following:  \1 prime
5. In comment make whatever note you'd like, I said mathematical prime
6. Don't check the case insensitive checkbox.
7. Activate the Regular Expression radio button.

If you do use single quotes frequently to enclose phrases, e.g., 'this phrase enclosed with single quotes,' I can try to get more sophisticated and use lookback in the regular expression to avoid instance for single quoted phrases.   As the regular expression I gave is currently constructed, it will match only a single character that's a lowercase or uppercase letter followed by the prime single quote.

I tested this in Notepad and its working.

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Re: OCR version 2, compatible with NVDA 2019.3 or later #addonrelease

Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks joseph
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] OCR version 2, compatible with NVDA 2019.3 or later #AddonRelease

Hello everyone,

 

The following is applicable for fans of old OCR Add-on (compatible with Windows 7 and 8.x): a code contributor to NVDA is now maintaining the beloved add-on, which is now compatible with NVDA 2019.3. More information can be found at:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/ocr

 

Note that this add-on is not applicable to Windows 10 users, as Windows 10 contains OCR functionality.

Cheers,

Joseph


OCR version 2, compatible with NVDA 2019.3 or later #addonrelease

 

Hello everyone,

 

The following is applicable for fans of old OCR Add-on (compatible with Windows 7 and 8.x): a code contributor to NVDA is now maintaining the beloved add-on, which is now compatible with NVDA 2019.3. More information can be found at:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/ocr

 

Note that this add-on is not applicable to Windows 10 users, as Windows 10 contains OCR functionality.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Tip for canceling an Amazon subscription using NVDA & Windows 10

Jackie
 

I hate it when I cause a moderator more work, because I am 1, & I hate
having to do it.

Humblest apologies, Brian. :(.

On 4/18/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Jackie,

What follows is not aimed personally, but yours is an example of something
I'm trying to cut down on.

For those who have additions to a topic they previously started, and that
topic was started within the last several days, please post those additions
on the original topic.  Using a new subject line splits the second topic out
from the first, and those following a topic will generally keep reading any
time a new message comes through in regard to it.

So if, for instance, you start a topic requesting help on a specific thing,
entitled, "Help with {specific thing}", that you later find a solution for
yourself, please do not post a separate topic, "Solved: Help with {specific
thing}."   Just add your solved message to the end of the ongoing topic,
"Help with {specific thing}.  It keeps all information related to a specific
instance of a specific issue bundled up in one tidy package, which is really
helpful for those searching the archive in the future.

I have already merged this back into the original topic, Tip for canceling
an Amazon subscription using NVDA & Windows 10
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Re: Tip for canceling an Amazon subscription using NVDA & Windows 10

 

Jackie,

           What follows is not aimed personally, but yours is an example of something I'm trying to cut down on.

            For those who have additions to a topic they previously started, and that topic was started within the last several days, please post those additions on the original topic.  Using a new subject line splits the second topic out from the first, and those following a topic will generally keep reading any time a new message comes through in regard to it.

            So if, for instance, you start a topic requesting help on a specific thing, entitled, "Help with {specific thing}", that you later find a solution for yourself, please do not post a separate topic, "Solved: Help with {specific thing}."   Just add your solved message to the end of the ongoing topic, "Help with {specific thing}.  It keeps all information related to a specific instance of a specific issue bundled up in one tidy package, which is really helpful for those searching the archive in the future.

             I have already merged this back into the original topic, Tip for canceling an Amazon subscription using NVDA & Windows 10
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Re: Uninstalling/Reinstalling NVDA - What happens behind the scenes?

 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 02:25 PM, Laughing Thunder wrote:
NVDA's user data is stored separately from the program itself, so uninstalling and reinstalling manually shouldn't change your settings, add-ons, etc.
Thanks.   This has now been confirmed multiple times from multiple sources.
 
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Tip for canceling an Amazon subscription using NVDA & Windows 10

Jackie
 

This morning I learned another, less cumbersome way to do this. Simply
go to the amazon.com/access site, activate the 'Your Account' link,
then the 'subscribe & save' link, & then the 'subscription' link.
There will be an 'edit' link you can activate in order to edit your
subscription. It's a lot easier. I'm glad to see it's actually
accessible here.

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Re: Uninstalling/Reinstalling NVDA - What happens behind the scenes?

Laughing Thunder
 

NVDA's user data is stored separately from the program itself, so uninstalling and reinstalling manually shouldn't change your settings, add-ons, etc.

On 4/11/2020 4:25 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I have not done an NVDA Uninstall/Reinstall sequence in quite a while, though I have to believe what occurs during an upgrade is its equivalent, as the old NVDA is uninstalled and the new one installed in its place.  In that case, any user profile(s) you created and any add-ons you have are retained and ready to rock and roll in the newly installed new version of NVDA.

Does this work the same way if you manually uninstall NVDA and then reinstall it?  I have often done this sort of thing for Firefox and other programs where I know it is only the program itself, and not the associated user data in the form of profile(s) and extension(s)/add-on(s), that is removed.

Does the NVDA uninstaller behave in the same way, leaving the user data intact, when it's not doing an in-place upgrade from one version to the next?
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