The question needs more discussion.  Is this a problem with new versions of NVDA, perhaps after the change to the new version of Python or has it been going on for some time?  and is thisw a very limited problem or more widespread?  Also, does it only affect Windows 10 users or other users?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 10:26 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Forcing NVDA Find versus Browser Find

 

Chris,

           As someone else said recently, there is a certain comfort in knowing that a given issue is not limited strictly to yourself!  Thanks for reporting.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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or if this is a feature in newer nvda alphas. when i now start thunderbird nvda repeat e.g: folder nvda, read 110 unread 2. is this a irritating new feature?

I'm now frustrated enough to ask this question.

It had always been my belief that hitting NVDA+CTRL+F would force the NVDA Find dialog to come up and be used to search a webpage.  I often want to be able to do this when searching for controls that don't necessarily show up with a straight browser find.

In trying to work on Maria's issue, I tried several times to get the NVDA find to come up to find the Language Selector button, but it wouldn't.  I'd hit NVDA+CTRL+F and still get the Brave browser find.  This has happened plenty in Chrome and Edge Dev, too, so I know it's not "just a Brave thing."

What am I missing?  There are times I absolutely want to force an NVDA Find, and it seems that sometimes I cannot do that.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

or if this is a feature in newer nvda alphas. when i now start thunderbird nvda repeat e.g: folder nvda, read 110 unread 2. is this a irritating new feature?

No. The way NVDA works is it uses a keyboard hook.
This intercepts all keys, and lets NVDA decide what, if anything, it wants to do with them.
However, sometimes NVDA crashes, or locks up. It's still accepting keyboard input, but not doing anything with it, kind of like how it works with input help mode on.
An example from a few months ago. I was looking at cell phone plans. Every time I got to a certain line in the page in Firefox, NVDA would lock up and do this.
Hitting windows+m to go to the desktop, then a character I know isn't the beginning of an icon name usually beeps, but it didn't. I knew my Windows sounds were working because I either restarted them or tested them earlier (there's a Windows bug that disables them on some reboots).
What can you do here?
1. Alt control delete works, and the NVDA there reads. You might think you can use task manager, but as soon as your session comes back, your keyboard still doesn't work.
2. Sign out. Hopefully this stops NVDA and leaves you with some of your windows open, for example if you had an unsaved notepad.
3. Switch to another user, kill the old NVDA process and switch back. You have to have that user set up before this happens, and I kept forgetting to make the account.
On 4/20/2020 1:38 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

Glad to see the integration works. I admit, if NVDA crashes, though, couldn't you just hit CTRL, ALT, N?

Many thanks for the NVDA wave files.
Especially for this NVDA Newbie.
My question is this, I down loaded the zip folder of wave files, how do I get them inside NVDA to take advantage of them?
Many thanks.
Ron KR3DOG

-----Original Message----- From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 15:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds

https://www.dropbox.com/s/km6i9ip82q3nkn1/NVDA%20new%20waves.zip?dl=1

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Savas
Sent: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 19:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New NVDA sounds

Hello everyone,

some years ago the sounds of NVDA should have been renewed, but were discarded.

Do any of you still have these sounds and could you send them to me?

Thank you very much in advance and best regards Ali








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Glad to see the integration works. I admit, if NVDA crashes, though, couldn't you just hit CTRL, ALT, N?

I'm now frustrated enough to ask this question.

It had always been my belief that hitting NVDA+CTRL+F would force the NVDA Find dialog to come up and be used to search a webpage.  I often want to be able to do this when searching for controls that don't necessarily show up with a straight browser find.

In trying to work on Maria's issue, I tried several times to get the NVDA find to come up to find the Language Selector button, but it wouldn't.  I'd hit NVDA+CTRL+F and still get the Brave browser find.  This has happened plenty in Chrome and Edge Dev, too, so I know it's not "just a Brave thing."

What am I missing?  There are times I absolutely want to force an NVDA Find, and it seems that sometimes I cannot do that.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019