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nvda and newer thunderbird

 

Hi.

Well effected thunderbird versions with the statusbar issue include beta 71 and 68 esr.

There is a thunderbird 72 beta 2 out, chances are the fix is in this for the beta channel.

Now we just need to wait for it to be backported to stable.

Hopefully now we are in the live user stable ish branch we should see something soon.


Re: Request: need to know NVDA laptop key command to recognize phonetic letters

Sandesh computer trainer HR
 

Hi
Thank you so much!
I was looking for same.


With regards,
Sandesh HR

On 4/22/20, Laurie Mehta via groups.io <lauriemehta=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
I am not sure if this is what you need, but to get the information for a
character such as a, alpha ... z, zulu on a laptop
press the NVDA key (I use caps lock) along with the period key tapping the
period key twice quickly as you keep the caps lock pressed.
Tapping the period only once along with the NVDA key just reads the
character.

I hope this helps (smile)
L. Mehta


On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 09:43:17 PM PDT, Sandesh computer trainer
HR <rh.sandesh@...> wrote:

Hi friends,
Kindly share the info on NVDA laptop key command to recognize the
phonetic letters.
With regards,
Sandesh HR








Re: Request: need to know NVDA laptop key command to recognize phonetic letters

Laurie Mehta
 

Hi,
I am not sure if this is what you need, but to get the information for a character such as a, alpha ... z, zulu on a laptop
press the NVDA key (I use caps lock) along with the period key tapping the period key twice quickly as you keep the caps lock pressed.
Tapping the period only once along with the NVDA key just reads the character.

I hope this helps (smile)
L. Mehta


On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 09:43:17 PM PDT, Sandesh computer trainer HR <rh.sandesh@...> wrote:


Hi friends,
Kindly share the info on NVDA laptop key command to recognize the
phonetic letters.
With regards,
Sandesh HR




Request: need to know NVDA laptop key command to recognize phonetic letters

Sandesh computer trainer HR
 

Hi friends,
Kindly share the info on NVDA laptop key command to recognize the
phonetic letters.
With regards,
Sandesh HR


Re: NVDA voice profiles are not functioning in latest NVDA after changing synthesizer

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I have had a similar problem. When I switch to Sapi5 I get silence. ESpeak and ?windows core are fine.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandesh computer trainer HR" <rh.sandesh@...>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 7:43 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA voice profiles are not functioning in latest NVDA after changing synthesizer


Hi friends,
Seeking your assistance to resolve below NVDA strange problem.
I have updated to latest version NVDA.
Soon after I have change synthesizer A P 4. Later I have exit the NVDA.
While verifying NVDA features. I have reactivated NVDA through short key.
Unable to hear the NVDA voice.
I have reinstalled NVDA yesterday twice.
Still I am unable to listen NVDA voices.

With regards,
Sandesh HR



Re: Using WhatsApp on The Computer

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Bhavya Shah


I wrote a tutorial for the web version but have not put it on my website.


You will need a mobile phone with whats app on

You will need to change some settings so it points to the web version and you will need to scan in a I think it is a qr code then it will sign you in.

Your phone is used to do this but needs to be pointed towards the monitor.


Do not do my trick I do not have the monitor on and thought I had turned it on maybe off then scanned the QR code but would not sign me in the reason was the monitor was off as confirmed by the wife.

Guess that is life.


when you are in there you can use nvda to jump around and chat with your friends and or read there messages.


At the time I did it I do not think it could do audio or video chats so just left it on the computer. I was sure my camera is working but could not see any settings at that time to add a camera//mike or maybe it just can not do it as not part of the software yet.


I had just started using the mobile version so hoped it would work with my video camera/mic on the computer.


It is a rough draft but think it was finished off but can not remember if it covered groups as it could get confusing? depending how it was done.

I have not been back in lately to see if it has been added or tried another camera/mic just in case.


Let us know if you want a copy of it I can post as is but a more polished copy will go on my website when I get a little time free.

Just come in from getting the deck rails sanded, clean etc and have it ready to paint which she is doing now.

Time for a coffee and a rest.



Gene nz

On 22/04/2020 8:30 am, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,

As the subject line implies, I would like to access WhatsApp on my
computer using NVDA.
* WhatsApp Web, according to the F123 Access service that used to make
it screen reader accessible, is no longger such and F123 Access is now
abandonware.
* Is WhatsApp for Desktop, the application, accessible with NVDA? Do
let me know.

I would greatly appreciate any assistance.

Thanks.


NVDA voice profiles are not functioning in latest NVDA after changing synthesizer

Sandesh computer trainer HR
 

Hi friends,
Seeking your assistance to resolve below NVDA strange problem.
I have updated to latest version NVDA.
Soon after I have change synthesizer A P 4. Later I have exit the NVDA.
While verifying NVDA features. I have reactivated NVDA through short key.
Unable to hear the NVDA voice.
I have reinstalled NVDA yesterday twice.
Still I am unable to listen NVDA voices.

With regards,
Sandesh HR


Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

Tony Malykh
 

That would probably imply that sapi5 eloquence is using some other way of playing generated sounds, other than NVDA's API in tones.py. In this case it would probably be impossible to set its volume in a centralized way. I tested my add-on on MIcrosoft sapi5 voices, OneCore, espeak and non-sapi version of eloquence, and it worked for all of them.

On 4/21/2020 2:50 PM, John Isige wrote:
At least on my desktop, your addon mentions volume changes, e.g. "NVDA
volume 60", but my synthesizer volume doesn't change. That's using the
SAPI5 version of Eloquence, in case that matters. it seems to apply to
all of the SAPI5 voices, but it does change with others, e.g.
Microsoft's OneCore. I haven't checked the sounds yet, but I assume if
it changes the voice volume, it will affect those as well. I installed
the stable version.


On 4/21/2020 16:29, Tony Malykh wrote:
Yes, I wrote an add-on for that - it's called Tony's enhancements.
Once you install it you can adjust NVDA volume by pressing
NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown.

--Tony


On 4/21/2020 9:42 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hi all.


Pretty straightforward question, can it be done? I'm listening to
some fairly faint videos so I have to crank my volume up. I lower the
volume of my synth with the ring, but NVDA's sounds, e.g. going in
and out of focus mode, are still pretty loud in comparison to
everything else. I suppose I could just turn that sound off if it
comes down to it, but I figured I'd find out if I'm missing something
obvious first.





Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

John Isige
 

At least on my desktop, your addon mentions volume changes, e.g. "NVDA
volume 60", but my synthesizer volume doesn't change. That's using the
SAPI5 version of Eloquence, in case that matters. it seems to apply to
all of the SAPI5 voices, but it does change with others, e.g.
Microsoft's OneCore. I haven't checked the sounds yet, but I assume if
it changes the voice volume, it will affect those as well. I installed
the stable version.

On 4/21/2020 16:29, Tony Malykh wrote:
Yes, I wrote an add-on for that - it's called Tony's enhancements.
Once you install it you can adjust NVDA volume by pressing
NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown.

--Tony


On 4/21/2020 9:42 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hi all.


Pretty straightforward question, can it be done? I'm listening to
some fairly faint videos so I have to crank my volume up. I lower the
volume of my synth with the ring, but NVDA's sounds, e.g. going in
and out of focus mode, are still pretty loud in comparison to
everything else. I suppose I could just turn that sound off if it
comes down to it, but I figured I'd find out if I'm missing something
obvious first.




Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

Gene
 

I don’t know why, but using the ring only lowers speech and has no effect on NVDA sounds.  I expected the ring and the dialog setting to do the same thing, but the settings aren’t identical in what they do.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?
 
Weird! I'll have to go and try that because I'd think lowering the
volume with the synth ring would do the exact same thing. Maybe they are
lowered, but if so they're still significantly louder than speech. It's
also good to know that with the sound off focus changes will be
announced verbally, since I've never messed with that. Thanks all!


Oh yeah, I'm watching a video music lesson. Here it is on Youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1I4Nc9iV0


I'm doing it from their website because I just started paying for all
the lessons, but the volume's all the way up. He's just kind of quiet.
Other lessons are louder so they're fine. So I can lower speech
currently and turn him up and get a good volume, but you have to go into
focus mode to start the video playing, and those sounds are louder than
everything else. Now I have a couple ways of fixing it, and I'll bet one
of them will work.


On 4/21/2020 13:24, Gene wrote:
> I don’t know if system sounds would have any bearing on the volume of
> these sounds, though I doubt it.  These aren’t system sounds, they are
> NVDA sounds.  I tried Rosemary’s suggestion and I found it both lowers
> the volume of speech and of the kinds of sounds being asked about so
> it appears that will solve the problem.  You may want to remember the
> current number of the NVDA sounds settings so you can set it to the
> same volume again if you wish.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Chris Mullins <mailto:cjmullins29@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2020 12:34 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's
> sounds?
>
>                 Hi
>
> You could try switching off the focus change sounds in NVDA settings,
> NVDA will then announce focus changes verbally.  Alternatively, you
> could turn down System sounds in the Volume Mixer app.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> *From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
> *Sent: *21 April 2020 17:42
> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject: *[nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?
>
> Hi all.
>
> Pretty straightforward question, can it be done? I'm listening to some
>
> fairly faint videos so I have to crank my volume up. I lower the volume
>
> of my synth with the ring, but NVDA's sounds, e.g. going in and out of
>
> focus mode, are still pretty loud in comparison to everything else. I
>
> suppose I could just turn that sound off if it comes down to it, but I
>
> figured I'd find out if I'm missing something obvious first.
>
>



Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

 

It's perfectly OK to give links to Add-Ons, even if you are the author.  In this case I'll save Tony the additional effort.  From the "official" add-ons page:  

Tony's enhancements

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

Tony Malykh
 

Yes, I wrote an add-on for that - it's called Tony's enhancements. Once you install it you can adjust NVDA volume by pressing NVDA+Control+PageUp/PageDown.

--Tony

On 4/21/2020 9:42 AM, John Isige wrote:
Hi all.


Pretty straightforward question, can it be done? I'm listening to some fairly faint videos so I have to crank my volume up. I lower the volume of my synth with the ring, but NVDA's sounds, e.g. going in and out of focus mode, are still pretty loud in comparison to everything else. I suppose I could just turn that sound off if it comes down to it, but I figured I'd find out if I'm missing something obvious first.



Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

Kevin Cussick
 

No problem keep smiling.

On 21/04/2020 21:40, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
                I thought he meant NVDA itself. My mistake.
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Kevin Cussick via groups.io <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 21, 2020 1:38 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?
that is not the sounds that is the voice.
On 21/04/2020 17:49, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> Hi, John,

>

> Go to the voice menu with NVDA insert V. You’ll be in the voices menu.

> Tab until you hear volume. If it’s at 100 percent, use the left arrow to

> lower it.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Rosemarie

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

> *From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>

> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:42 AM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *[nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

>

> Hi all.

>

> Pretty straightforward question, can it be done? I'm listening to some

>

> fairly faint videos so I have to crank my volume up. I lower the volume

>

> of my synth with the ring, but NVDA's sounds, e.g. going in and out of

>

> focus mode, are still pretty loud in comparison to everything else. I

>

> suppose I could just turn that sound off if it comes down to it, but I

>

> figured I'd find out if I'm missing something obvious first.

>

>


Re: Add-On Updater: Is there a way to force it to check for updates?

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, nvda tools check for addon updates. if this is not what Your wanting I have miss understood and if so sorry just ignore.

On 21/04/2020 19:11, Brian Vogel wrote:
Joseph,
           I believe I've asked you this before, and I apologize for needing to ask again.  I have another machine that I just updated from NVDA 2019.2 to NVDA 2019.3.1.  I also intentionally removed and reinstalled Add-On Updater.  All other extant add-ons are incompatible with 2019.3.1, and I know this.
           Add-on Updater did activate yesterday, but before I did the 2019.3.1 update to NVDA.  I am curious to see what it does with all the incompatible add-ons, but when I invoke NVDA today it is not coming up to check them.  I know there is some mechanism that keeps it from checking again for a certain period of time since we've discussed this before.
            I have looked in settings and the settings specific to Add-on Updater, but I'm not seeing a button or other control that would force it to do a check for updates now.  Does such exist, and I'm missing it?  If so, would you please describe where it is and how to invoke it?
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
*/Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth./*
~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in /New York Times/ article, /How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States/ <https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html>/,/September 23, 2019


Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

                I thought he meant NVDA itself. My mistake.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kevin Cussick via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 1:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

 

that is not the sounds that is the voice.

 

On 21/04/2020 17:49, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> Hi, John,

>

> Go to the voice menu with NVDA insert V. You’ll be in the voices menu.

> Tab until you hear volume. If it’s at 100 percent, use the left arrow to

> lower it.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Rosemarie

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

> *From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>

> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:42 AM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *[nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

>

> Hi all.

>

> Pretty straightforward question, can it be done? I'm listening to some

>

> fairly faint videos so I have to crank my volume up. I lower the volume

>

> of my synth with the ring, but NVDA's sounds, e.g. going in and out of

>

> focus mode, are still pretty loud in comparison to everything else. I

>

> suppose I could just turn that sound off if it comes down to it, but I

>

> figured I'd find out if I'm missing something obvious first.

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

Kevin Cussick
 

that is not the sounds that is the voice.

On 21/04/2020 17:49, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,
Go to the voice menu with NVDA insert V. You’ll be in the voices menu. Tab until you hear volume. If it’s at 100 percent, use the left arrow to lower it.
Hope this helps.
Rosemarie
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 21, 2020 9:42 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?
Hi all.
Pretty straightforward question, can it be done? I'm listening to some
fairly faint videos so I have to crank my volume up. I lower the volume
of my synth with the ring, but NVDA's sounds, e.g. going in and out of
focus mode, are still pretty loud in comparison to everything else. I
suppose I could just turn that sound off if it comes down to it, but I
figured I'd find out if I'm missing something obvious first.


Using WhatsApp on The Computer

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,

As the subject line implies, I would like to access WhatsApp on my
computer using NVDA.
* WhatsApp Web, according to the F123 Access service that used to make
it screen reader accessible, is no longger such and F123 Access is now
abandonware.
* Is WhatsApp for Desktop, the application, accessible with NVDA? Do
let me know.

I would greatly appreciate any assistance.

Thanks.

--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/


Re: Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

John Isige
 

Weird! I'll have to go and try that because I'd think lowering the
volume with the synth ring would do the exact same thing. Maybe they are
lowered, but if so they're still significantly louder than speech. It's
also good to know that with the sound off focus changes will be
announced verbally, since I've never messed with that. Thanks all!


Oh yeah, I'm watching a video music lesson. Here it is on Youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1I4Nc9iV0


I'm doing it from their website because I just started paying for all
the lessons, but the volume's all the way up. He's just kind of quiet.
Other lessons are louder so they're fine. So I can lower speech
currently and turn him up and get a good volume, but you have to go into
focus mode to start the video playing, and those sounds are louder than
everything else. Now I have a couple ways of fixing it, and I'll bet one
of them will work.

On 4/21/2020 13:24, Gene wrote:
I don’t know if system sounds would have any bearing on the volume of
these sounds, though I doubt it.  These aren’t system sounds, they are
NVDA sounds.  I tried Rosemary’s suggestion and I found it both lowers
the volume of speech and of the kinds of sounds being asked about so
it appears that will solve the problem.  You may want to remember the
current number of the NVDA sounds settings so you can set it to the
same volume again if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Chris Mullins <mailto:cjmullins29@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2020 12:34 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's
sounds?

                Hi

You could try switching off the focus change sounds in NVDA settings,
NVDA will then announce focus changes verbally.  Alternatively, you
could turn down System sounds in the Volume Mixer app.

Cheers

Chris

*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
*Sent: *21 April 2020 17:42
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Is there a way to change the volume of NVDA's sounds?

Hi all.

Pretty straightforward question, can it be done? I'm listening to some

fairly faint videos so I have to crank my volume up. I lower the volume

of my synth with the ring, but NVDA's sounds, e.g. going in and out of

focus mode, are still pretty loud in comparison to everything else. I

suppose I could just turn that sound off if it comes down to it, but I

figured I'd find out if I'm missing something obvious first.


Re: Add-On Updater: Is there a way to force it to check for updates?

 

Hi,

The latter – ability to check for add-on updates from Add-ons Manager – is something I’ve been working on for years and I haven’t forgotten about it… or that request might be enhanced with something big being discussed (can’t comment on users list at the moment).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-On Updater: Is there a way to force it to check for updates?

 

Jesse,

           Thank you very much, and, yes, it helps a lot.   I feel really, really foolish when I know I've actually checked that menu, but stopped scanning at the Manage Add-Ons item, and activating it.

           Having that option in the Tools menu makes perfect sense, but if there is a way to duplicate it via button in the actual Add-Ons Manager settings I think that would be a good idea as well.

            But I've given myself a big ol' dope slap on this one!!
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Add-On Updater: Is there a way to force it to check for updates?

 

Jesse,

           Thank you very much, and, yes, it helps a lot.   I feel really, really foolish when I know I've actually checked that menu, but stopped scanning at the Manage Add-Ons item, and activating it.

           Having that option in the Tools menu makes perfect sense, but if there is a way to duplicate it via button in the actual Add-Ons Manager settings I think that would be a good idea as well.

            But I've given myself a big ol' dope slap on this one!!
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019