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Re: NVDA Settings Questions
As Sarah has mentioned, it depends on how and when you want a given thing pronounced. NVDA, like most complex software, is highly configurable, but you (or I, when advising) have to know exactly what the circumstance is when "dot" is being pronounced where you'd prefer period instead.
I will always presume this is when you're going character by character, and hitting punctuation marks, unless specified otherwise. It also matters where. There is the sentence ending period and there is the period used elsewhere, and those are considered separate instances of the character. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Sharing Miranda NG packs
David Csercsics
Might be worth using for IRC, or similar, I'll have to look at this, thanks.
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Sharing Miranda NG packs
I'm sharing the page for Miranda NG Packs. This page doesn't have the blind centric pack, but the Sebijk Edition says it's accessible to blind people. I'm still using the blind version of Miranda NG I got years ago, from Andre Louis, or whatever his name is. If I knew how, I'd love to make a pack and share it with you all, but I can't figure out how to export everything except my various accounts. Anyway, try the below.
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Re: NVDA Settings Questions
Dennis L
I changed it it still says dot.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Questions
You can change what NVDA says for any punctuation or symbol in the Punctuation and Symbols settings, NVDA+N,P,P. I presume you mean the period at the end of a sentence, in which case the very first item you will see in the list is for the period, sentence ending, with its replacement as "dot." If you get yourself to the Replacement box, erase dot, type period (spelled out), and hit the OK button that will be changed. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: NVDA Settings Questions
I believe some of this can be found in settings. For example hit nvda p to get your symbol level, and for the dot instead of period go to the dictionary settings. I believe some of this was discussed at length in the list archives. Take care Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 2 May 2020, at 9:43, Dennis L wrote:
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Re: NVDA Settings Questions
You can change what NVDA says for any punctuation or symbol in the Punctuation and Symbols settings, NVDA+N,P,P. I presume you mean the period at the end of a sentence, in which case the very first item you will see in the list is for the period, sentence ending, with its replacement as "dot." If you get yourself to the Replacement box, erase dot, type period (spelled out), and hit the OK button that will be changed.
I'll leave the other two to others. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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NVDA Settings Questions
Dennis L
Hi, I have used Jaws for years. I’m giving NVDA another look. When I’m writing an email it says dot instead of period. How do I change this? Is there any way to turn off column 4 row 3 etc. when on a webpage? Is there anyway when using outlook as your typing who the message is to to have the auto complete suggest automatically spoken?
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Re: NVDA list accessibility
Rosemarie Chavarria
NVDA doesn't have a PC cursor like Jaws. Browse mode is like the PC cursor.
On 5/2/2020 1:09 AM, bhanu computer
wrote:
i am asking how to press PC cursor in NVDA is there a way
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Re: Punctation and Symbols Settings
I don't know how to make the explanation "sentence ending" more clear, but I'll try. It means a period at the end of a sentence, like this one. It does not mean a decimal point, like this, 151.20, or a date separator, like this, 2020.05.02, or any one of a number of other contexts where a period might be used other than as the terminal punctuation on a sentence.
Any of the punctuation settings that "come with" NVDA are given by NVDA and some, like this one, cannot be removed (and who would want to?). I feel fairly certain that the descriptive phrase, "period, sentence ending," is, under the hood, a regular expression that catches the character before the period, the period itself, and makes sure that there is white space of some sort following it or that it is the very end of a string with nothing after it. That would not be a clearer explanation to the majority of people than, "period, sentence ending." I do not see any way to give the sentence ending attribute to some random other symbol, but why would one want to do so? Off the top of my head, the three sentence ending punctuation marks in most (not all) European languages are period, question mark, and exclamation point. All those are already covered by what "comes with" the NVDA punctuation characters list, though you could choose to modify what's announced. Just the other day someone was asking about forcing sentence ending exclamation point to be pronounced as exclamation point rather than bang when reading at the punctuation level, which you can do by changing the replacement word from "bang" to the two words "exclamation point." There is a separate entry for the exclamation point symbol, in a non-sentence ending context, that uses bang as its replacement. If you do a lot of programming where the exclamation point is used for negation, and you're having that read, it's a lot faster and cleaner to hear something like, "If bang A," rather than, "If exclamation point A," since bang has been used as the shorthand name for exclamation point for a very long time now. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Punctation and Symbols Settings
Karl-Heinz Arkenau <kha@...>
^Hey there,
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ok, than a little bit more specific. ;-) In my installation of NVDA the first linein the list of interpunction and symbols it says: ".senntence ending", "replace by ."," Level: All"and in the last column(Keep" it says "always. My question now ist: "What does these "endeing sentence" mean? Can I add this the any other sign? Or is this given by NVDA? I hope it is a little more specific now. Yours Karl-Heinz". Am 02.05.2020 um 16:48 schrieb Brian Vogel:
Unless you can tell us what it is you'd like to change, specifically, it's impossible to say. You can certainly modify the attributes on anything in that list in the dialog, whether it will achieve what you want to do is another matter. You can add items to the list as well.
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Re: Punctation and Symbols Settings
Unless you can tell us what it is you'd like to change, specifically, it's impossible to say. You can certainly modify the attributes on anything in that list in the dialog, whether it will achieve what you want to do is another matter. You can add items to the list as well.
No one can give specific guidance for an utterly unspecific question. The most specific I can get is, "Yes, you can change those settings." -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth. ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019
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Re: Punctation and Symbols Settings
Karl-Heinz Arkenau <kha@...>
Hey,
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ok, I unerstand that. But there is no way to change that sttings, right? Or didn't I just recognized that? Thank you! Karl-Heinz Arkenau Am 02.05.2020 um 02:08 schrieb Brian Vogel:
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 07:05 PM, Gene wrote:In the punctuation dialog, there is a setting for some marks that dealAs well as other relative positions. A good example of that is what gets labeled as "negative number" which I'd have to presume is a hyphen when placed immediately before a numeric digit.
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configuring nvda for announcing heading and heading levels:
hello every one.
i wish to set nvda to announce heading level only even if i disable reporting headings in document formatting! is it possible? if so, how? when i press h, i know that i move by headings. fortunately nvda announces heading and its level after the content of that heading. but, if i move line by line, nvda unfortunately announces heading before its content! how i can i change this behaviour that if i enable reporting headings in document formatting, nvda announces headings and there level after there content even when i navigate line by line?! unfortunately, some authors forget to close heading tag, and in some websites, nvda announces heading before any line which i am moving to it by down arrow key! its very annoying! knowing heading levels are important for me, when i disable reporting headings, i also miss heading levels. but hearing heading before its content, is very annoying! how can i overcome this problem? thanks for your help, God bless you! -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Windows OneCore voices
Deenadayalan Moodley
Hi Chris,
I just test it here with Hazel and it works as a primary voice. I even shutdown NVDA and launched it once more and it came up with Hazel.
I also tried with the Indian Ravi voice and it worked.
Thanks.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Saturday, 02 May 2020 12:21 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows OneCore voices
Hi Sarah This is extremely odd. Narrator uses the british voices without a problem and if using the NVDA Voices dialog, I set the Voice to Microsoft Mark and check the “Automatic dialect switching (when supported)” box the user entered text in this email is red using the George British English voice and the message headers are read using the Mark US English voice. So it appears that the British English voice can be used by NVDA but cannot be set as the primary speaking voice. If there is a reason why the British English voices cannot be used,
Cheers Chris
From: Sarah k Alawami
No there is not. If microsoft did not make those voices sapi 5 usable, you cannot use them. This is what someone told me somewhere. Take care Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 1 May 2020, at 4:13, Chris Mullins wrote:
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Re: Windows OneCore voices
Chris Mullins
Hi Sarah This is extremely odd. Narrator uses the british voices without a problem and if using the NVDA Voices dialog, I set the Voice to Microsoft Mark and check the “Automatic dialect switching (when supported)” box the user entered text in this email is red using the George British English voice and the message headers are read using the Mark US English voice. So it appears that the British English voice can be used by NVDA but cannot be set as the primary speaking voice. If there is a reason why the British English voices cannot be used,
Cheers Chris
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 01 May 2020 17:05 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows OneCore voices
No there is not. If microsoft did not make those voices sapi 5 usable, you cannot use them. This is what someone told me somewhere. Take care Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 1 May 2020, at 4:13, Chris Mullins wrote:
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Re: NVDA list accessibility
Gene
You can switch screen review modes but I'm not sure if it makes sense to describe all that here. In general, you should be in objecgt navigation. When you want to use screen review mode, if you stay in it, things may not work as expected after you use it so you should move back to object navigation after you use a different mode. If you haven't changed your mode, you are now in object navigation. You might be best served by getting the NVDA tutorial on how to use it that is sold bhy NVDA staff. I'm not sure the cost. If you don't want to do that, let us know. Other list members may suggest other resources that are free. I haven't used them and I can't compare them. Or you may want to look at the manual but a lot of people find working with tutorials much more pleasant or easy to understand. Of course, I don't know what you prefer.
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From: bhanu computer Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 3:09 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA list accessibility i am asking how to press PC cursor in NVDA is there a way
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Re: NVDA onefile
Sean
NVDA is not suitable for using PyInstaller.
On 02/05/2020 05:32, bhanu computer
wrote:
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SeanI’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes
Go and rare C++.
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Re: NVDA list accessibility
bhanu computer
i am asking how to press PC cursor in NVDA is there a way
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Re: NVDA list accessibility
Gene
No. There are no settings effecting this behavior.
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From: bhanu computer Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 9:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA list accessibility [Edited Message Follows] oh and also how to use PC cursur on NVDA is there a way? and also what i mean to use is is there a way to move NVDA cursor automaticly to the end of the line while we are reading a webpage? thankyou
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Re: NVDA onefile
Hi, No, we are using Py2exe to transform NVDA into a binary executable. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of bhanu computer
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 7:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA onefile
[Edited Message Follows] hello NVDA developers. as i know you develop NVDA using python. but if your uusing pyinstaller to compile NVDA executable, why dont you use --onefile in cmd for example your python file name is NVDA then why dont you use like pyinstaller NVDA.py -w --onefile? if it have any problem then you can dont use. this is just a suggestion. thankyou
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