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Having NVDA not say blank lines when reading an email

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, if you receive an email is there anyway to have NVDA not read  blank lines?  Can you have program specific settings?


Re: What'sapp on PC?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Just confirmed to send a voice message just under the chat part to the person. You just need to go into browse mode hit the space bar on the button and the first time allow your camera or mic. Then after that find the button again hit the space bar on the button record the message you can also arrow up to see the duration of the recording then arrow back down to the button and hit the space bar on the button to stop it and send it. Just been added into the tutorial. It would make it so much easier if they were labled.


Now to see what sections are under the attachments section and add them in if all goes well.


Not sure if i can do a new group but think you need to drag and drop people into the chat unless it lets you add them in by text.


Gene nz


On 3/05/2020 12:37 pm, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

Correction, the WhatsApp desktop client can send audio messages. There is a button at the bottom of the chat, that can send voice notes. It's not labelled. You can press the button to record, then press the button again to stop recording and send the message. I normally go to a next chat to cancel.


Re: What'sapp on PC?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I will have another sus later on today. I will also get my wife to say what there is under the attachments part in the program. I know there was a couple of things but un labeled. I am also going to see if the golden mouse thingy might be able to get me to the correct places. I tried it before I could nate a position but was not read out but could get to it.


I will also have another look under the chat part for the audio note you spoke about I thought I did see it come up some where but not sure of the section? in whats app.


Then once I know will add it into the tutorial much easier if the buttons were labeled correctly in the program.


Gene nz


On 3/05/2020 12:37 pm, Andre Fisher wrote:
Hi.

Correction, the WhatsApp desktop client can send audio messages. There is a button at the bottom of the chat, that can send voice notes. It's not labelled. You can press the button to record, then press the button again to stop recording and send the message. I normally go to a next chat to cancel.


Re: What'sapp on PC?

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

Correction, the WhatsApp desktop client can send audio messages. There is a button at the bottom of the chat, that can send voice notes. It's not labelled. You can press the button to record, then press the button again to stop recording and send the message. I normally go to a next chat to cancel.


Cloudflare HCAPTCHA using NVDA problem

William Wong
 

Hello,

I recently found that, Cloudflare has shifted to a new CAPTCHA provider and making the process inaccessible via NVDA or probably other screen reader as well.

It is like the new CAPTCHA provider do not offer an lternative way other then visual CAPTCHA.

Do any one also experience the same issue?


Re: nvda and buttons

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks brian
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons

Kerryn,

          You may, and I emphasize may, be able to use the Golden Cursor add-on to accomplish what you're hoping for within specific application (which, I'd imagine, would include a web browser on a specific webpage).  See the NVDA+SHIFT+I command to add a tag or label based on the mouse position.  You'd still need to use Golden Cursor later to access the label, but you'd have it and know it's there.

           It's a workaround, but depending on how important it is, it's a possibility.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: nvda and buttons

 

Kerryn,

          You may, and I emphasize may, be able to use the Golden Cursor add-on to accomplish what you're hoping for within specific application (which, I'd imagine, would include a web browser on a specific webpage).  See the NVDA+SHIFT+I command to add a tag or label based on the mouse position.  You'd still need to use Golden Cursor later to access the label, but you'd have it and know it's there.

           It's a workaround, but depending on how important it is, it's a possibility.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: What'sapp on PC?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


The following from a tutorial I was writing has the short cut keys for it in it.


I did not finish it as if you want to send attachments they are not labled  etc but could be added to say the options.


*Using WhatsApp with nvda

*WhatsApp  for web
There is a app version which you can install on to your computer. The app version is the same as the web version in looks. Both the web version and app version can not do audio or video at present.
so you can only send and recieve messages on the computer.
You will need to go to the following web address at https://web.whatsapp.com/
Before you can use the web version you must have it setup on your mobile phone and already have a account setup. After you have signed into the app on your phone you will need to go to more options...settings....whats app web and double tap. This will also need to be done on the computer you are using.then you will have to scan in a Qr code. If the code needs to be refreshed while on the graphic use the NVDA key + enter key to do this. from the monitor for it to sign you in.
The computer must be on the same web address as above.

when you go to scan in the QR code The QR code is on the top right corner of the screen.

This can be a little tricky to do but after it scans the code what shows on your phone will show on your computer monitor.
You will neeed to do this from your phone to scan in the 'QR code.
The phone might vibrate when it has scanned in the code then mirror your phone.


Keyboard shortcuts for WhatsApp for Windows desktop
If you’ve installed the WhatsApp app on your Windows 10/8/7 desktop, you might find the following keyboard shortcuts very useful.
Start new chat
Ctrl+N
Create a new group
Ctrl+Shift+N
Open Profile Status
Ctrl+P
Undo
Ctrl+Z
Redo
Ctrl+Shift+Z
Cut
Ctrl+X
Copy
Ctrl+C
Paste
Ctrl+V
Select all
Ctrl+A
Search
Ctrl+F
Zoom in
Ctrl+Shift+=
Actual size
Ctrl+0
Zoom out
Ctrl+-
Next chat
Ctrl+Shift+]
Previous chat
Ctrl+Shift+[
Archive chat
Ctrl+E
Mute
Ctrl+Shift+M
Delete chat
Ctrl+Backspace
Mark as unread
Ctrl+Shift+U
Close
Alt+F4


*After you have signed into the whats app on the web
*Quick navigation keys that can be used with NVDA

You can use the following B for buttons, E for editable fields, F or form fields, H for headings, K for link,
For some reason on the buttons you can not use the space bar or enter key you need to use the NVDA key + Enter key on the numeric keypad to activate them.
On some sections the enter key will work You can use The up, down, left and right arrow keys along with CTRL + home for the top of the page and CTRL + END for bottom of the page.
From the page after you have logged in as you go down the page you will hear the following button status, new chat button, menu button, button but if arrowed up once you will hear clickable turn on desk top notifications, or arrow down you will hear Search or start new chat
  Just under it is a editable area where you can type.
Under the editable area you will also hear the following No chats
Keep your phone connected
WhatsApp connects to your phone to sync messages. To reduce data usage, connect your phone to Wi-Fi.
WhatsApp is available for Windows. Get it here.

*Status button

When you go into this section you will hear the following My StatusNo updates
Click on a contact to view their status updates



*New chat button


under the new chat section you will hear the following read out by NVDA
New chat
Search contacts you can search for a contact on your list here.
New group you can add people to a group you setup up to 256 people.


Amanda Hutton
Sleeping
Ray Pope
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Nathan Wheeler
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Larry And Ali Gray
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Graham Posen
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.

Status
New chat
Menu

*Menu button

Under this section you will hear nvda say clickable button   New group. You can have up to 256 people in your group up from 100

clickable button  Profile  ADD PROFILE PHOTO
Your Name
Gene
Edit
This is not your username or pin. This name will be visible to your WhatsApp contacts.
About
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Edit


Clickable button   Archived Archived chats
No archived chats
If you have not arkhived any chats then you will get the above message.


Starredclickable button Starred messages
No starred messages

Settings Get notified of new messages
Turn on desktop notifications
Gene
Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Notifications
Chat Wallpaper
Blocked
Help

Status


clickable button log out. If you log out from the web version of this app you will need to scan the QR code again to sign into the web version.

*Adding contacts

On your phone go into where your contacts are then add the persons name and mobile number. They will need to do the same on there end. There details will be uploaded to the app so either data or wifi will need to be on to to do this..

*New chat

If you want to text  chat one of your contacts locate the new chat button then press the nvda key +enter key on the numeric keypad. You will then be given the following Gen Search contacts

New group
FREQUENTLY CONTACTED
A list of your contacts will come up you will need to choose one. Ray Hope

Nathan Whyte
Locate the person you want to chat with and Press the enter key on the person you want and then you will be given some options such as
You will hear attach, Open emojis panel
Type a message
Type in your message etc then send it.

 You can also review the messages you have sent to them.

Hey there! I am using WhatsApp.
Notifications
Chat Wallpaper
Blocked
Help

Status



If you log out you will need to scan in the QR code again unless you leave your self signed in.



Gene nz

On 3/05/2020 9:49 am, jazzyjennifer wrote:
does anyone know where i can get the short cut keys from, on the web sight i did not know there were any for whatsapp on the computer, thanks any help would be great!


Re: nvda and buttons

Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks jene and dennis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons


As far as I know it can't be done unless an add-on allows this and I've seen no discussion of such. You can't rename graphics either.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons



This needs to be added if it can’t be done.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and buttons







guys



can nvda rename buttons, like unlabled buttons etc



if so how is it done?













Re: nvda and buttons

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

That also needs added.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons

As far as I know it can't be done unless an add-on allows this and I've seen no discussion of such. You can't rename graphics either.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons



This needs to be added if it can’t be done.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness
via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and buttons







guys



can nvda rename buttons, like unlabled buttons etc



if so how is it done?


Re: nvda and buttons

Gene
 

As far as I know it can't be done unless an add-on allows this and I've seen no discussion of such. You can't rename graphics either.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 5:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and buttons



This needs to be added if it can’t be done.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and buttons







guys



can nvda rename buttons, like unlabled buttons etc



if so how is it done?


Re: nvda and buttons

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

This needs to be added if it can’t be done.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and buttons

 

guys

can nvda rename buttons, like unlabled buttons etc

if so how is it done?

 


nvda and buttons

Kerryn Gunness
 


guys
can nvda rename buttons, like unlabled buttons etc
if so how is it done?
 


Re: Sharing Miranda NG packs

 

I have doodled with miranda a little.

To be honest though I havn't done to much.

One thing you can't install every plugin without things screwing up on you so you need to know what every plugin does.

The sebake addition seems nice however a pack is a particular load of plugins and sounds configured.

For instance, the andrelouis sounds are part of miranda im now.

You can select the contact list for blind.

The only extras are the message export and a few other protocols as well as remove personal settings and history sweeper.

As a blind person you probably only need the protocols you want.

You can aparently use discord with it if you really care to.

Though to be honest I havn

't needed to use miranda for ages and due to things I don't like about both I have stopped using discord and unigram on my system alltogether.

Bar skype for a few things due to how some stuff has gone I have basically given up on everything bar email for now anyway.



On 3/05/2020 9:25 am, mk360 wrote:

Ok. I was experimenting for some hours and apparently all configurations can be replied in the official Miranda NG program. So, the thing is what are the best configurations to use Miranda NG with NVDA? I've for now the plugin for blind folks, Changed some parameters to has a better chat Window, for example remove the toolbar, load the history, change other things. Nut, for example, in a spanish forum someone recommends to change on the window options, verify "Tool style main window" and he says that it will put Miranda NG in the alt tab circle, but in my case that not worked.

However, for now I think I'll stop experimenting, because one change that i Did has unexpected results, and I don't know how to revert it, but if any Miranda's NVDA user has comments about its configuration can be useful.


Regards,

mk.

El 02/05/2020 a las 15:58, Robert Kingett escribió:

I'm running the version with the new Facebook plugin, Miranda NG 0.95.2. By the way, not sure why I can't copy what NVDA says to the clipboard in that about dialog box. My version is the latest version, and, as I said previously, all packages have been updated. I didn't just get the blind version and not update it, you know. LOL! But after dinner, I'll remove all my account stuff and share it somewhere. It's portable. It's not the installed version. Got it! See below.

About Miranda NG dialog Copyright © 2000-11 Miranda IM, 2012-20 Miranda NG team. This software is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License. Miranda NG v0.95.11 build #22551 (2e38b4587f) Copyright © 2000-11 Miranda IM, 2012-20 Miranda NG team. This software is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License. Vertical 0 Used to change the vertical viewing area Copyright NVDA Speech Viewer dialog
Public dialog
Show Speech Viewer on Startup check box not checked Alt+s


Re: NVDA Settings Questions

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 2 May 2020, Dennis L wrote:

Is there any way to turn off column 4 row 3 etc. when on a webpage?
I believe you are asking how you can turn off column and row announcements in tables.
To do that, you want to go to your Document Formatting settings, and uncheck "cell coordinates".
The short way of getting there is: NVDA+Ctrl+D, alt+O. Space to uncheck the box, then press enter.

Your period question has already been answered, and I don't know about auto suggest lists in Outlook, so can't help there.

Luke


Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

 

If Tween is working, but not OpenTween, how is Tween not blocked from Twitter but OpenTween is?


Re: What'sapp on PC?

jazzyjennifer
 

does anyone know where i can get the short cut keys from, on the web sight i did not know there were any for whatsapp on the computer, thanks any help would be great!


Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

jazzyjennifer
 

wow the qube, did not think that client still worked, i had it along time ago. i use tween. casue all my buffers update the right way, with it,


Re: Sharing Miranda NG packs

mk360
 

Ok. I was experimenting for some hours and apparently all configurations can be replied in the official Miranda NG program. So, the thing is what are the best configurations to use Miranda NG with NVDA? I've for now the plugin for blind folks, Changed some parameters to has a better chat Window, for example remove the toolbar, load the history, change other things. Nut, for example, in a spanish forum someone recommends to change on the window options, verify "Tool style main window" and he says that it will put Miranda NG in the alt tab circle, but in my case that not worked.

However, for now I think I'll stop experimenting, because one change that i Did has unexpected results, and I don't know how to revert it, but if any Miranda's NVDA user has comments about its configuration can be useful.


Regards,

mk.

El 02/05/2020 a las 15:58, Robert Kingett escribió:

I'm running the version with the new Facebook plugin, Miranda NG 0.95.2. By the way, not sure why I can't copy what NVDA says to the clipboard in that about dialog box. My version is the latest version, and, as I said previously, all packages have been updated. I didn't just get the blind version and not update it, you know. LOL! But after dinner, I'll remove all my account stuff and share it somewhere. It's portable. It's not the installed version. Got it! See below.

About Miranda NG dialog Copyright © 2000-11 Miranda IM, 2012-20 Miranda NG team. This software is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License. Miranda NG v0.95.11 build #22551 (2e38b4587f) Copyright © 2000-11 Miranda IM, 2012-20 Miranda NG team. This software is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License. Vertical 0 Used to change the vertical viewing area Copyright NVDA Speech Viewer dialog
Public dialog
Show Speech Viewer on Startup check box not checked Alt+s


Re: Sharing Miranda NG packs

 

I have not doodled with this but I may try to experiment with miranda ng myself.

I have no need for it now but I will try to make my own blind version and see what it does.



On 3/05/2020 5:09 am, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'm sharing the page for Miranda NG Packs. This page doesn't have the blind centric pack, but the Sebijk Edition says it's accessible to blind people. I'm still using the blind version of Miranda NG I got years ago, from Andre Louis, or whatever his name is.

If I knew how, I'd love to make a pack and share it with you all, but I can't figure out how to export everything except my various accounts. Anyway, try the below.